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Judith in England 18-08-2014 03:16 PM

Tomorite Bargain
 


1 litre : £1.99

B&M


Muddymike[_2_] 18-08-2014 04:08 PM

Tomorite Bargain
 


1 litre : £1.99

B&M


Check the concentration/dilution rate. B&M are very good at specifying
products that look to be the same as everywhere else but have lower content.
I know I supply them.

Mike


Benjamin[_2_] 18-08-2014 05:10 PM

Tomorite Bargain
 
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:08:19 +0100, "Muddymike"
wrote:



1 litre : £1.99

B&M


Check the concentration/dilution rate. B&M are very good at specifying
products that look to be the same as everywhere else but have lower content.
I know I supply them.

Mike


What a darling little deception - sounds very like the sort of thing in which
trading standards would interested.

Andy Burns[_4_] 18-08-2014 05:25 PM

Tomorite Bargain
 
Benjamin wrote:

Muddymike wrote:

Check the concentration/dilution rate. B&M are very good at specifying
products that look to be the same as everywhere else but have lower content.


What a darling little deception - sounds very like the sort of thing in which
trading standards would interested.


I doubt it, providing it's accurately labelled - caveat emptor.


Judith in England 18-08-2014 06:34 PM

Tomorite Bargain
 
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:08:19 +0100, "Muddymike"
wrote:



1 litre : £1.99

B&M


Check the concentration/dilution rate. B&M are very good at specifying
products that look to be the same as everywhere else but have lower content.
I know I supply them.

Mike




I have checked the Tomorite and as far as I can see it is identical to that
purchased elsewhere.

I can understand companies supplying boxes/bottles for B&M which contains less
than the norm; but to actually alter the make up of the contents would be sharp
practice in the extreme. Can you give examples.

Judith in England 18-08-2014 06:38 PM

Tomorite Bargain
 
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:25:55 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

Benjamin wrote:

Muddymike wrote:

Check the concentration/dilution rate. B&M are very good at specifying
products that look to be the same as everywhere else but have lower content.


What a darling little deception - sounds very like the sort of thing in which
trading standards would interested.


I doubt it, providing it's accurately labelled - caveat emptor.



I would like to see examples: if the bottles appeared to be identical content
(other than perhaps volume) but were made up of different percentages of the
constituent parts - then I would consider it sharp practice which would
warrant much bad publicity. I am looking forward to examples from MuddyMike.

Andy Burns[_4_] 18-08-2014 07:09 PM

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Judith in England wrote:

I would like to see examples:


Goes on all the time, it's not unusual for pack sizes in pound stores to
be about 10% smaller than elsewhere; Adsa seem to sell all bagels in
packs of 4, everyone else sells them in 5's.


'Mike'[_4_] 18-08-2014 07:19 PM

Tomorite Bargain
 
Morrison's will sell a multi-pack for more than two/four individual ones.
Tinned Tuna, Rich Tea biscuits just two

Mike

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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...

Judith in England wrote:

I would like to see examples:


Goes on all the time, it's not unusual for pack sizes in pound stores to
be about 10% smaller than elsewhere; Adsa seem to sell all bagels in
packs of 4, everyone else sells them in 5's.


Judith in England 18-08-2014 07:23 PM

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On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:09:57 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

Judith in England wrote:

I would like to see examples:


Goes on all the time, it's not unusual for pack sizes in pound stores to
be about 10% smaller than elsewhere; Adsa seem to sell all bagels in
packs of 4, everyone else sells them in 5's.



Please read what I said: I know damn well it goes on with pack sizes - I was
not aware that the constituent percentages may vary which is what was claimed.

Judith in England 18-08-2014 07:29 PM

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On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:19:41 +0100, "'Mike'"
wrote:

Morrison's will sell a multi-pack for more than two/four individual ones.
Tinned Tuna, Rich Tea biscuits just two



Flipping heck!!

No-one is disputing that at all !!!

It is the constituent components of apparently the same product varying which
is what was claimed.

This is what was suggested may be happening with the cheaper Tomorite.

I am still looking forward to examples of such - I have never seen such things
myself.



Andy Burns[_4_] 18-08-2014 07:35 PM

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Judith in England wrote:

It is the constituent components of apparently the same product varying which
is what was claimed.


Within a gardening context, roundup would be a good example.


Judith in England 18-08-2014 11:22 PM

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On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:35:05 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

Judith in England wrote:

It is the constituent components of apparently the same product varying which
is what was claimed.


Within a gardening context, roundup would be a good example.



Are you are saying that roundup in apparently the same bottle and packaging is
sold in "bargain shops" as a less effective solution - watered down or
different make-up?
Are you sure they do not have a different name (type of Roundup) on the labels?


stuart noble 19-08-2014 08:32 AM

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On 18/08/2014 23:22, Judith in England wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:35:05 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

Judith in England wrote:

It is the constituent components of apparently the same product varying which
is what was claimed.


Within a gardening context, roundup would be a good example.



Are you are saying that roundup in apparently the same bottle and packaging is
sold in "bargain shops" as a less effective solution - watered down or
different make-up?
Are you sure they do not have a different name (type of Roundup) on the labels?


There seems to be a "pour" grade of Tomorite, which is cheaper than the
standard. I usually buy Wilkos own but, as ever, one has no real idea
what strength any of them are.

Andy Burns[_4_] 19-08-2014 08:47 AM

Tomorite Bargain
 
Judith in England wrote:

Are you are saying that roundup in apparently the same bottle and packaging is
sold in "bargain shops" as a less effective solution - watered down or
different make-up?


Not specifically "bargain shops"

Are you sure they do not have a different name (type of Roundup) on the labels?


I'm sure they *do* have accurate info in the small print, but the
headline label doesn't tell you whether the pack contains 7.2g/ml,
120g/ml or 360g/ml, they have several different phrases for the same
strength (Ready to Use, Concentrate, GC, Ultra 3000, XL, Super
Concentrate) and of course multiple container sizes and types.

Confusion marketing, though not to the extent that e.g. one shop sells
300g/ml slightly cheaper than others sell 360g/ml.


Andy Burns[_4_] 19-08-2014 02:49 PM

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Chris Hogg wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

360g/ml,


Hellish dense stuff, this Roundup!


:-)


FrankB 21-08-2014 08:22 PM

Tomorite Bargain
 

"Judith in England" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:08:19 +0100, "Muddymike"


wrote:



1 litre : £1.99

B&M


Check the concentration/dilution rate. B&M are very good at specifying
products that look to be the same as everywhere else but have lower

content.
I know I supply them.

Mike




I have checked the Tomorite and as far as I can see it is identical to

that
purchased elsewhere.

I can understand companies supplying boxes/bottles for B&M which contains

less
than the norm; but to actually alter the make up of the contents would be

sharp
practice in the extreme. Can you give examples.


I use Eazifeed liquid feed for tomatoes. A 500 ml bottle makes up 155 L at
the correct dilution. That bottle is sold for 99p in 99p discount stores.
Not sure how that directly compares to Tomorite, but I'm willing to bet it's
a lot cheaper.I use it for feeding my container roses and they appreciate
it.



stuart noble 22-08-2014 09:36 AM

Tomorite Bargain
 
On 21/08/2014 20:22, FrankB wrote:
"Judith in England" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:08:19 +0100, "Muddymike"


wrote:



1 litre : £1.99

B&M


Check the concentration/dilution rate. B&M are very good at specifying
products that look to be the same as everywhere else but have lower

content.
I know I supply them.

Mike




I have checked the Tomorite and as far as I can see it is identical to

that
purchased elsewhere.

I can understand companies supplying boxes/bottles for B&M which contains

less
than the norm; but to actually alter the make up of the contents would be

sharp
practice in the extreme. Can you give examples.


I use Eazifeed liquid feed for tomatoes. A 500 ml bottle makes up 155 L at
the correct dilution. That bottle is sold for 99p in 99p discount stores.
Not sure how that directly compares to Tomorite, but I'm willing to bet it's
a lot cheaper.I use it for feeding my container roses and they appreciate
it.



Why do all tomato feeds seem to be liquid? Sulphate of potash comes in a
solid form, so what is it that we can't mix with water ourselves?

Nick Maclaren[_3_] 22-08-2014 09:50 AM

Tomorite Bargain
 
In article ,
stuart noble wrote:

Why do all tomato feeds seem to be liquid? Sulphate of potash comes in a
solid form, so what is it that we can't mix with water ourselves?


Water is cheap, so the profit margin is high. I tried looking for
a low-nitrogen fertiliser in solid form, and came up with a
complete blank. Yes, I could make one up, but getting hold of
the minor nutrients would be a real pain :-(


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

FrankB 22-08-2014 03:20 PM

Tomorite Bargain
 

"stuart noble" wrote in message
...
On 21/08/2014 20:22, FrankB wrote:
I use Eazifeed liquid feed for tomatoes. A 500 ml bottle makes up 155 L

at
the correct dilution. That bottle is sold for 99p in 99p discount

stores.
Not sure how that directly compares to Tomorite, but I'm willing to bet

it's
a lot cheaper.I use it for feeding my container roses and they

appreciate
it.



Why do all tomato feeds seem to be liquid? Sulphate of potash comes in a
solid form, so what is it that we can't mix with water ourselves?


But that's just potash - K There's still the Nitrogen -N and Phosphorus -
P elements to apply. So liquid tomato feed (which is really just a high
potash feed) is a convenient way which can be used cheaply (but not by using
Tomorite IMO).



stuart noble 22-08-2014 03:34 PM

Tomorite Bargain
 
On 22/08/2014 15:20, FrankB wrote:
"stuart noble" wrote in message
...
On 21/08/2014 20:22, FrankB wrote:
I use Eazifeed liquid feed for tomatoes. A 500 ml bottle makes up 155 L

at
the correct dilution. That bottle is sold for 99p in 99p discount

stores.
Not sure how that directly compares to Tomorite, but I'm willing to bet

it's
a lot cheaper.I use it for feeding my container roses and they

appreciate
it.



Why do all tomato feeds seem to be liquid? Sulphate of potash comes in a
solid form, so what is it that we can't mix with water ourselves?


But that's just potash - K There's still the Nitrogen -N and Phosphorus -
P elements to apply. So liquid tomato feed (which is really just a high
potash feed) is a convenient way which can be used cheaply (but not by using
Tomorite IMO).



So in theory you could just add extra potash to standard growmore? I
just find it easier to sprinkle solids and mostly I don't remember the
feed till I've just done the watering :-(


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