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Whenever the question of insect repellant arises, in this and other
newsgroups, Avon skinsosoft is usually recommended. On looking at Avon's online shop they appear to have several products under this name. Which one or doesn't it matter? |
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Simples. Go into Boots and get their 'Jungle Formula Insect Repellent'. 'For
use at home and abroad' and when we went on our World Cruise that is what we took and can highly recommend it. Mike .................................................. For those ex Royal Navy. http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641 7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 3rd September 2014 ‘From the Crowe’s Nest’ "Tahiri" wrote in message o.uk... Whenever the question of insect repellant arises, in this and other newsgroups, Avon skinsosoft is usually recommended. On looking at Avon's online shop they appear to have several products under this name. Which one or doesn't it matter? |
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On 2014-09-02 16:07:47 +0000, Tahiri said:
Whenever the question of insect repellant arises, in this and other newsgroups, Avon skinsosoft is usually recommended. On looking at Avon's online shop they appear to have several products under this name. Which one or doesn't it matter? Avon Skin So Soft Original Dry Oil Body Spray with Jojoba and Citronellol 150 ml - Pack of 2 I use it myself and it works. The blurb says: " Product Description Avon's Dry Oil Body Spray comes highly recommended an ideal BODY LOTION designed to LOCK IN MOISTURE after a bath/shower or FOR DRY SKIN. You can also use it during the Summer and when you're on HOLIDAY as a GREAT substitute INSECT & MOSQUITO REPELLENT. It can be used by campers, fishermen, hikers, gardeners and others who work outside. You can even use it on cats, dogs and horses to keep the flies away (some of our customers buy boxes of this spray to use on their horses during the Summer). As a Scottish newspaper reported '......... Instead of using mosquito repellent issued by their unit, soldiers and workers at the base are buying Avon body lotion to repel midges on the West Coast. A stores sergeant at 45 Commando, based at Arbroath, said: "There is nothing effeminate about it. The reason the Marines are using it is because it is good kit. It works. It's as simple as that".....It has also been claimed that both the US army and the SAS use it as mosquito repellent in the jungle. ' Contains - Citronellol from Citronella oil which helps to repel blood-feeding mosquitoes, ticks, and fleas. 150ml per bottle. AVON SKIN SO SOFT DRY OIL BODY SPRAY. 150ml. PLEASE NOTE that Avon are changing the design of this bottle so the bottle you receive may look different from that shown in the photograph. They are also changing the name of the item to Skin So Soft ORIGINAL Dry Oil Spray. PLEASE NOTE that when the oil in this bottle becomes cold it solidifies. Simply place the bottle in a warm room and it will become liquid again." -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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Tahiri wrote: Whenever the question of insect repellant arises, in this and other newsgroups, Avon skinsosoft is usually recommended. On looking at Avon's online shop they appear to have several products under this name. Which one or doesn't it matter? Against what? Against the wimpish insects that occur over most of the UK, anything will do. Against Scottish midges, DTE (Jungle Formula etc.) has some effect. Against the nastier insects you get in the tropics, DMP has some effect, but you can't get it any longer. Realistically, the best defence is to cover up, not forgetting midge masks etc. and the fact that mosquitoes etc. can bite through thin clothing. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Whenever the question of insect repellant arises, in this and other
newsgroups, Avon skinsosoft is usually recommended. On looking at Avon's online shop they appear to have several products under this name. Which one or doesn't it matter? Avon Skin So Soft Original Dry Oil Body Spray with Jojoba and Citronellol 150 ml - Pack of 2 I use it myself and it works. The blurb says: " Product Description Avon's Dry Oil Body Spray comes highly recommended an ideal BODY LOTION designed to LOCK IN MOISTURE after a bath/shower or FOR DRY SKIN. You can also use it during the Summer and when you're on HOLIDAY as a GREAT substitute INSECT & MOSQUITO REPELLENT. It can be used by campers, fishermen, hikers, gardeners and others who work outside. You can even use it on cats, dogs and horses to keep the flies away (some of our customers buy boxes of this spray to use on their horses during the Summer). As a Scottish newspaper reported '......... Instead of using mosquito repellent issued by their unit, soldiers and workers at the base are buying Avon body lotion to repel midges on the West Coast. A stores sergeant at 45 Commando, based at Arbroath, said: "There is nothing effeminate about it. The reason the Marines are using it is because it is good kit. It works. It's as simple as that".....It has also been claimed that both the US army and the SAS use it as mosquito repellent in the jungle. ' Contains - Citronellol from Citronella oil which helps to repel blood-feeding mosquitoes, ticks, and fleas. 150ml per bottle. AVON SKIN SO SOFT DRY OIL BODY SPRAY. 150ml. PLEASE NOTE that Avon are changing the design of this bottle so the bottle you receive may look different from that shown in the photograph. They are also changing the name of the item to Skin So Soft ORIGINAL Dry Oil Spray. PLEASE NOTE that when the oil in this bottle becomes cold it solidifies. Simply place the bottle in a warm room and it will become liquid again." Thanks Sacha. That will do nicely. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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Whenever the question of insect repellant arises, in this and other
newsgroups, Avon skinsosoft is usually recommended. On looking at Avon's online shop they appear to have several products under this name. Which one or doesn't it matter? Against what? Against the wimpish insects that occur over most of the UK, anything will do. Against Scottish midges, DTE (Jungle Formula etc.) has some effect. Against the nastier insects you get in the tropics, DMP has some effect, but you can't get it any longer. Realistically, the best defence is to cover up, not forgetting midge masks etc. and the fact that mosquitoes etc. can bite through thin clothing. I am not sure what we are targeting Nick. Something very very small that is only in our rural garden (worse in the outbuildings) for a few weeks in summer. I suspect mice fleas or something like that. |
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Tahiri wrote: I am not sure what we are targeting Nick. Something very very small that is only in our rural garden (worse in the outbuildings) for a few weeks in summer. I suspect mice fleas or something like that. I.e. most of the bites are on your lower legs? With such things, the best defence is long trousers tucked into socks, previously having had their lower halves soaked in some repellent. It doesn't have to be fancy - very dilute Jeyes fluid would be fine (if you can stand the smell). Being worse in outbuildings does imply some sort of animal-carried parasite, but it could easily be mites or lice as fleas - anyway, the same defence works. I assume that you would recognise ticks, so it won't be them :-) However, my previous point stands. ANYTHING will discourage most of the biting insects over most of the UK, Scottish midges are harder to discourage, and people travelling to the tropics need to take advice targetted for the area. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 2014-09-02 16:29:21 +0000, Nick Maclaren said:
In article , Tahiri wrote: Whenever the question of insect repellant arises, in this and other newsgroups, Avon skinsosoft is usually recommended. On looking at Avon's online shop they appear to have several products under this name. Which one or doesn't it matter? Against what? Against the wimpish insects that occur over most of the UK, anything will do. Against Scottish midges, DTE (Jungle Formula etc.) has some effect. Against the nastier insects you get in the tropics, DMP has some effect, but you can't get it any longer. Realistically, the best defence is to cover up, not forgetting midge masks etc. and the fact that mosquitoes etc. can bite through thin clothing. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Nick, it really isn't wimpish to want protection from English mosquitoes. One of my daughters has a horrible reaction to mosquito bites and ended up on abtibiotics only a month ago. This not the first time for her, either. In past years she's ended up with eyes swollen almost shut. Not everyone can shrug things off so lightly. My stepson has had several horsefly bites with no more than discomfort, another member of our team had to go to hospital with just one. As far as Skin So Soft is concerned, it's effective. If Canadian lumberjacks use it - and I'm told, reliably, that they do, why would you mock someone for wanting to protect themselves from discomfort or worse? Not everyone wants to test Tsetse fly protection to destruction in the gardens of England. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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Sacha wrote: Nick, it really isn't wimpish to want protection from English mosquitoes. ... I said that the insects were wimpish, not the people! Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Pam Moore wrote: Whenever the question of insect repellant arises, in this and other newsgroups, Avon skinsosoft is usually recommended. On looking at Avon's online shop they appear to have several products under this name. Which one or doesn't it matter? Against what? Against the wimpish insects that occur over most of the UK, anything will do. Against Scottish midges, DTE (Jungle Formula etc.) has some effect. Against the nastier insects you get in the tropics, DMP has some effect, but you can't get it any longer. Realistically, the best defence is to cover up, not forgetting midge masks etc. and the fact that mosquitoes etc. can bite through thin clothing. I offered a bottle to an army friend who was going on exercise in Canadian swamps. I wasn't sure if he'd use it but on his return he said all his group used it and none got bitten tho mozzies were abundant! Lots of people report that citronella is about as effective (or ineffective) as DTE - I haven't used it myself. But my point above stands - according to everything I have read, it will give SOME protection against Scottish midges, and is NBG as a defence in the tropics. And I can witness both are true for DTE. While I have heard that Canadian mosquitoes are bad, none of the people I have heard it from have had any experience of either Scottish midges or the nastier tropical insects. So I am keeping an open mind. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 2014-09-02 21:51:32 +0000, Nick Maclaren said:
In article , Sacha wrote: Nick, it really isn't wimpish to want protection from English mosquitoes. ... I said that the insects were wimpish, not the people! Regards, Nick Maclaren. Sounded like guilt by association to me! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 9/2/2014 5:37 PM, Sacha wrote:
Nick, it really isn't wimpish to want protection from English mosquitoes. One of my daughters has a horrible reaction to mosquito bites and ended up on abtibiotics only a month ago. This not the first time for her, either. In past years she's ended up with eyes swollen almost shut. Not everyone can shrug things off so lightly. My stepson has had several horsefly bites with no more than discomfort, another member of our team had to go to hospital with just one. As far as Skin So Soft is concerned, it's effective. If Canadian lumberjacks use it - and I'm told, reliably, that they do, why would you mock someone for wanting to protect themselves from discomfort or worse? Not everyone wants to test Tsetse fly protection to destruction in the gardens of England. The manager of the sheep farm across the road from me, claims that Skin-So-Soft works very well, but wears off quickly and must be reapplied frequently. The midges here are truly vicious. |
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"Janet" wrote in message t... In article , lid says... On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:26:39 -0400, S Viemeister wrote: The manager of the sheep farm across the road from me, claims that Skin-So-Soft works very well, but wears off quickly and must be reapplied frequently. The midges here are truly vicious. It's a subject of Snopes http://www.snopes.com/oldwives/skeeters.asp That's about mosquitoes. Scottish midges are an entirely different insect species which IME are deterred by Avon skinsosoft exactly as Sheila said. Agreed, we are not talking about American mosquitos - we are talking about Scottish Midges! Ardmhor |
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Martin wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 12:24:07 +0100, Janet wrote: The manager of the sheep farm across the road from me, claims that Skin-So-Soft works very well, but wears off quickly and must be reapplied frequently. The midges here are truly vicious. It's a subject of Snopes http://www.snopes.com/oldwives/skeeters.asp That's about mosquitoes. Scottish midges are an entirely different insect species which IME are deterred by Avon skinsosoft exactly as Sheila said. DEET repels them all. To some extent. In my experience, it is only partially effective against Scottish midges and tropical insects (including mosquitoes). If you look, you will find lots of warnings not to rely on it as a defence against (say) malaria. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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As a slight aside, but not Off-topic:
Saw our quack today to get advice on which malaria tablets to take (along side all the others). His coment was anything with DEET, BUT it is better to spray your clothes rather than the skin, something to do with stopping them getting up your trouser leg or down the neck of your blouse! -- Roger T 700 ft up in Mid-Wales |
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On 2014-09-03 21:39:52 +0000, Roger Tonkin said:
As a slight aside, but not Off-topic: Saw our quack today to get advice on which malaria tablets to take (along side all the others). His coment was anything with DEET, BUT it is better to spray your clothes rather than the skin, something to do with stopping them getting up your trouser leg or down the neck of your blouse! Did he prescribe Lariam? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 03/09/14 22:39, Roger Tonkin wrote:
As a slight aside, but not Off-topic: Saw our quack today to get advice on which malaria tablets to take (along side all the others). His coment was anything with DEET, BUT it is better to spray your clothes rather than the skin, something to do with stopping them getting up your trouser leg or down the neck of your blouse! More off topic... My doctor was happy to give me whatever was needed, where "needed" was defined by the printout from http://www.masta-travel-health.com/ You specify when and where you are going, and get a usefully detailed and specific list of recommendations for avoidance, prophylaxis, prevention etc. It costs a small amount, but emails you updates if the situation changes (e.g. a local outbreak of Japanese encephalitis). Caution: I last used them ~6 years ago. |
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On 2014-09-03 20:13:57 +0000, Martin said:
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 14:13:38 +0100, "philgurr" wrote: "Janet" wrote in message t... In article , lid says... On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:26:39 -0400, S Viemeister wrote: The manager of the sheep farm across the road from me, claims that Skin-So-Soft works very well, but wears off quickly and must be reapplied frequently. The midges here are truly vicious. It's a subject of Snopes http://www.snopes.com/oldwives/skeeters.asp That's about mosquitoes. Scottish midges are an entirely different insect species which IME are deterred by Avon skinsosoft exactly as Sheila said. Agreed, we are not talking about American mosquitos - we are talking about Scottish Midges! http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=53356 Before I encountered Skin So Soft, I had used OFF which I'd found in Turkey. It's very effective I'm just personally adverse to prolonged use of things like that. I use SSS rarely but effectively. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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Roger Tonkin wrote: As a slight aside, but not Off-topic: Saw our quack today to get advice on which malaria tablets to take (along side all the others). His coment was anything with DEET, BUT it is better to spray your clothes rather than the skin, something to do with stopping them getting up your trouser leg or down the neck of your blouse! Sorry, but he's wrong. Yes, it is a good idea to do your clothes, but it is NOT more important than doing bare skin, and is because mosquitoes can bite through (thinnish) clothing. Mosquitoes will neither willingly enter enclosed spaces nor will 'walk' along a surface. Some other flying insects will. Also, it's not just anything with DTE, but with a high proportion of it (preferably 50+%). You should tuck your trousers into your socks (or use cycle clips) and wear more than a blouse in any location that mosquitoes are a serious problem. But, even with that, and slathered in DTE, you WILL get bitten. However, most tourists don't go where mosquitoes are a serious problem, anyway. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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lid says... On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 12:24:07 +0100, Janet wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:26:39 -0400, S Viemeister wrote: The manager of the sheep farm across the road from me, claims that Skin-So-Soft works very well, but wears off quickly and must be reapplied frequently. The midges here are truly vicious. It's a subject of Snopes http://www.snopes.com/oldwives/skeeters.asp That's about mosquitoes. Scottish midges are an entirely different insect species which IME are deterred by Avon skinsosoft exactly as Sheila said. DEET repels them all. Since you clearly didn;t know the difference, I'm surprised at your sudden confidence. I use Deet in the tropics against mosquitoes, where it works In my experience Deet is useless as a deterrent against Scottish midges. In Scotland, where I have lived for 40 + years, I use skin so soft. Janet |
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Janet wrote: I use Deet in the tropics against mosquitoes, where it works As a deterrent, yes, but not as a defence. And, in the tropics, that difference matters. There are no vaccines against many of the diseases caused by biting insects (nor effective treatments, in many cases). In my experience Deet is useless as a deterrent against Scottish midges. In Scotland, where I have lived for 40 + years, I use skin so soft. Exactly which one? My experience is that DTE isn't useless against midges, but the discomfort caused by it on the bites that do occur balances the discomfort of just getting bitten! I am interested in trying something better .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 04/09/2014 09:20, Martin wrote:
I use DEET on my clothes not on my skin. Dutch tests resulted in recommendations of repellents that contained at least 50% DEET. Yes, it works, but the biggest problem with DEET is that it is a pretty good solvent for some plastics. Many years ago some good Aussie friends were returning to Australia via some tropical countries. I did them a good turn (I thought) by making them a couple of hundred grams of 50% DEET in a cream base. As they were flying, to save weight, I used a plastic jar. When they got back to Oz they wrote that after a few weeks, the jar dissolved and they got a creamy, plasticky, mess all over their clothes! Fortunately we remained good friends... I sometimes wonder if there are strange fingerprint patterns over today's digital cameras and mobile phones if they are handled after someone rubs DEET on their skin. :-). -- Jeff |
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Jeff Layman wrote: I sometimes wonder if there are strange fingerprint patterns over today's digital cameras and mobile phones if they are handled after someone rubs DEET on their skin. :-). Yes, there are. And sunglasses, and .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 04/09/2014 15:41, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 04/09/2014 09:20, Martin wrote: I use DEET on my clothes not on my skin. Dutch tests resulted in recommendations of repellents that contained at least 50% DEET. Yes, it works, but the biggest problem with DEET is that it is a pretty good solvent for some plastics. Many years ago some good Aussie friends were returning to Australia via some tropical countries. I did them a good turn (I thought) by making them a couple of hundred grams of 50% DEET in a cream base. As they were flying, to save weight, I used a plastic jar. When they got back to Oz they wrote that after a few weeks, the jar dissolved and they got a creamy, plasticky, mess all over their clothes! Fortunately we remained good friends... I sometimes wonder if there are strange fingerprint patterns over today's digital cameras and mobile phones if they are handled after someone rubs DEET on their skin. :-). It's a good job that the implants women use to create silicon valley are below the skin |
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On 2014-09-04 18:06:12 +0000, Martin said:
On Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:41:52 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote: On 04/09/2014 09:20, Martin wrote: I use DEET on my clothes not on my skin. Dutch tests resulted in recommendations of repellents that contained at least 50% DEET. Yes, it works, but the biggest problem with DEET is that it is a pretty good solvent for some plastics. I dripped some on a phone and it left a crater in the surface. snip And we're supposed to put this stuff on our bodies?! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 05/09/2014 18:34, Sacha wrote:
On 2014-09-04 18:06:12 +0000, Martin said: On Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:41:52 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote: On 04/09/2014 09:20, Martin wrote: I use DEET on my clothes not on my skin. Dutch tests resulted in recommendations of repellents that contained at least 50% DEET. Yes, it works, but the biggest problem with DEET is that it is a pretty good solvent for some plastics. I dripped some on a phone and it left a crater in the surface. snip And we're supposed to put this stuff on our bodies?! That's why it works. The bugs have more sense than to come into contact with it. It's their way to take over the world. They just Buzz mankind enough so that everyone slaps so much of the stuff on that they dissolve. |
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On 2014-09-05 20:34:04 +0000, David Hill said:
On 05/09/2014 18:34, Sacha wrote: On 2014-09-04 18:06:12 +0000, Martin said: On Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:41:52 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote: On 04/09/2014 09:20, Martin wrote: I use DEET on my clothes not on my skin. Dutch tests resulted in recommendations of repellents that contained at least 50% DEET. Yes, it works, but the biggest problem with DEET is that it is a pretty good solvent for some plastics. I dripped some on a phone and it left a crater in the surface. snip And we're supposed to put this stuff on our bodies?! That's why it works. The bugs have more sense than to come into contact with it. It's their way to take over the world. They just Buzz mankind enough so that everyone slaps so much of the stuff on that they dissolve. There's a whiff of truth in this... ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2014-09-07 08:14:14 +0000, Martin said:
snip DEET is not to be sniffed at, unless you have a nose for it. I think the last time I used anything containning DEET was when I bought some stuff called Off! in Turkey. It certainly worked but I thought it was a bit scary! Apparently, it now repels mosquitoes carrying West Nile virus... -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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