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If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week,
and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. -- Regards Bob Hobden Posting to this Newsgroup from the W.of London. UK |
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Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who matter don't mind and those who mind don't matter. Mike .................................................. advert to follow "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. -- Regards Bob Hobden Posting to this Newsgroup from the W.of London. UK |
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On 02/10/2014 09:24, Bob Hobden wrote:
If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. Can't say that I have, but I might if I noticed some invasive plants (such as variegated ground elder or a "decorative" plantain) had been planted close to a neighbour's fence. -- Jeff |
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"Janet" wrote Bob says... If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. Well, I've seen newish "instant" gardens unwisely planted up by some beginner with more money than sense or knowledge but I wouldn't discourage them by saying so. Gardeners learn best, from their mistakes. When I started out I made some howling planting booboos which I was very proud of at the time. Two that stand out in my personal hall of shame were cedrus atlantica glauca planted in a tiny front garden at one ft tall, and mile-a-minute-vine planted on a dividing fence. ( What I learnt was, that the smaller you plant a tree the faster it grows; and plants that overtake the neighbours while breaking the speed limit, will surely get banned). Janet Yes I agree but presumably this garden is not gardened by a new gardener as it's a house open to the public. Looked like a senior gardener and lots of willing helpers . -- Regards Bob Hobden Posting to this Newsgroup from the West of London. UK |
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On 2014-10-02 08:24:55 +0000, Bob Hobden said:
If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. -- Regards Bob Hobden Posting to this Newsgroup from the W.of London. UK Tis might interest you, Bob. The editor of this site believes firmly that gardens open to the public are as open to criticism as a work of art would be. http://thinkingardens.co.uk/articles...peak-its-name/ -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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Like I said earlier ............
Bob Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who matter don't mind and those who mind don't matter. Mike .................................................. advert to follow .................................................. "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2014-10-02 08:24:55 +0000, Bob Hobden said: If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. -- Regards Bob Hobden Posting to this Newsgroup from the W.of London. UK Tis might interest you, Bob. The editor of this site believes firmly that gardens open to the public are as open to criticism as a work of art would be. http://thinkingardens.co.uk/articles...peak-its-name/ -- Sacha |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. That's a difficult one. If the gardeners were around and looked friendly, I might say "is there a reason why you did that..?" and see what they say. Then go from there. It's kind of like accusing someone of being a bad parent, very delicate to approach. |
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On 02/10/2014 17:10, Christina Websell wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. That's a difficult one. If the gardeners were around and looked friendly, I might say "is there a reason why you did that..?" and see what they say. Then go from there. It's kind of like accusing someone of being a bad parent, very delicate to approach. Just remember that plants don't read the books that we do. |
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"Sacha" wrote
Bob Hobden said: If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. Tis might interest you, Bob. The editor of this site believes firmly that gardens open to the public are as open to criticism as a work of art would be. http://thinkingardens.co.uk/articles...peak-its-name/ Interesting, however I was not questioning the asthetics of the garden as that is a personal thing, for example, I don't "get" Sissinghurst yet others rave about it. What I was thinking about was plants in the wrong places, places they will not thrive in, and worse, places they simply should not be. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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"david" wrote .
Christina Websell wrote: "Bob Hobden" wrote If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. That's a difficult one. If the gardeners were around and looked friendly, I might say "is there a reason why you did that..?" and see what they say. Then go from there. It's kind of like accusing someone of being a bad parent, very delicate to approach. Just remember that plants don't read the books that we do. Very true David but I cannot think of a fern that actually likes to be in full sun or will live in those conditions, then there are the trees, large trees that grow to 100ft and more planted a few metres from a house that has had millions spent on it's restoration has to be madness in my book. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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Bob a tree which you know grow to 100ft is an easy one. You find one of the
gardeners, take him to the tree 'because you have a question to ask' and when there, get your pen and pad out and ask him "Is that tree a dwarf variety because if so what is it? The normal ones grow to 100 ft and of course would not be planted to so near a house, well I have room for a small dwarf one but never a normal one" A fern? "What variety is that which will grow in the sun?" Mike .................................................. advert will follow "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "david" wrote . Christina Websell wrote: "Bob Hobden" wrote If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. That's a difficult one. If the gardeners were around and looked friendly, I might say "is there a reason why you did that..?" and see what they say. Then go from there. It's kind of like accusing someone of being a bad parent, very delicate to approach. Just remember that plants don't read the books that we do. Very true David but I cannot think of a fern that actually likes to be in full sun or will live in those conditions, then there are the trees, large trees that grow to 100ft and more planted a few metres from a house that has had millions spent on it's restoration has to be madness in my book. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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On 2014-10-02 22:15:17 +0000, Bob Hobden said:
"Sacha" wrote Bob Hobden said: If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. Tis might interest you, Bob. The editor of this site believes firmly that gardens open to the public are as open to criticism as a work of art would be. http://thinkingardens.co.uk/articles...peak-its-name/ Interesting, however I was not questioning the asthetics of the garden as that is a personal thing, for example, I don't "get" Sissinghurst yet others rave about it. What I was thinking about was plants in the wrong places, places they will not thrive in, and worse, places they simply should not be. We've seen that in more than one famous garden and clearly you have, too! I think the only answer then is to comment on the 'interesting position you have that plant in. I thought they liked deep shade?", if you happen to bump into one of the garden team! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 2014-10-02 22:26:18 +0000, Bob Hobden said:
"david" wrote . Christina Websell wrote: "Bob Hobden" wrote If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. That's a difficult one. If the gardeners were around and looked friendly, I might say "is there a reason why you did that..?" and see what they say. Then go from there. It's kind of like accusing someone of being a bad parent, very delicate to approach. Just remember that plants don't read the books that we do. Very true David but I cannot think of a fern that actually likes to be in full sun or will live in those conditions, then there are the trees, large trees that grow to 100ft and more planted a few metres from a house that has had millions spent on it's restoration has to be madness in my book. Some of these places are on sites that allow for (polite) comment, e.g. those run by local counties or villages, group trip organisers etc. It might be worth saying something on those. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 02/10/2014 09:24, Bob Hobden wrote:
If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. -- Regards Bob Hobden Posting to this Newsgroup from the W.of London. UK On those occasions I've felt the need to speak out, there hasn't been a gardener to speak to, which is frustrating. One of the things I often see when garden visiting, is cruelly biting tree ties. With no-one to address, and no blade of my own, I am obliged to walk away. -- Spider. On high ground in SE London gardening on heavy clay |
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:08:26 +0100, Spider wrote:
On 02/10/2014 09:24, Bob Hobden wrote: If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. -- Regards Bob Hobden Posting to this Newsgroup from the W.of London. UK On those occasions I've felt the need to speak out, there hasn't been a gardener to speak to, which is frustrating. About 20 years ago I was visiting the gardens in Chester with my mother. She commented to a gardener that some plants were very nice. He told her to help herself to one. One of the things I often see when garden visiting, is cruelly biting tree ties. With no-one to address, and no blade of my own, I am obliged to walk away. You get arrested for carrying a blade these days. I can see the defence now, "I was out saving trees, your honour". Steve -- Neural Network Software http://www.npsnn.com EasyNN-plus More than just a neural network http://www.easynn.com SwingNN Prediction software http://www.swingnn.com JustNN Just a neural network http://www.justnn.com |
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On 04/10/2014 13:59, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:08:26 +0100, Spider wrote: On 02/10/2014 09:24, Bob Hobden wrote: If you visit places with gardens as we do occasionally, and did this week, and you see some strange even plain wrong planting do you chat to the gardeners about it? By wrong I mean ferns in full sun and potentially huge trees, Robinia pseudoacacia, planted almost next to the building. -- Regards Bob Hobden Posting to this Newsgroup from the W.of London. UK On those occasions I've felt the need to speak out, there hasn't been a gardener to speak to, which is frustrating. About 20 years ago I was visiting the gardens in Chester with my mother. She commented to a gardener that some plants were very nice. He told her to help herself to one. I've never had that happen! How lovely for your mum:~) One of the things I often see when garden visiting, is cruelly biting tree ties. With no-one to address, and no blade of my own, I am obliged to walk away. You get arrested for carrying a blade these days. I can see the defence now, "I was out saving trees, your honour". Steve With a "Ten other trees to be taken into consideration" plea ;~) -- Spider. On high ground in SE London gardening on heavy clay |
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On 04/10/2014 14:39, Spider wrote:
On 04/10/2014 13:59, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:08:26 +0100, Spider wrote: You get arrested for carrying a blade these days. I can see the defence now, "I was out saving trees, your honour". With a "Ten other trees to be taken into consideration" plea ;~) Arrested by Special Branch? Your Honour, my client has now turned over a new leaf. -- regards andy |
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" ....... and branching out in a new direction m'lud"
Mike .................................................. Watch this space for an advert "News" wrote in message ... On 04/10/2014 14:39, Spider wrote: On 04/10/2014 13:59, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:08:26 +0100, Spider wrote: You get arrested for carrying a blade these days. I can see the defence now, "I was out saving trees, your honour". With a "Ten other trees to be taken into consideration" plea ;~) Arrested by Special Branch? Your Honour, my client has now turned over a new leaf. -- regards andy |
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On 08/10/2014 09:04, News wrote:
On 04/10/2014 14:39, Spider wrote: On 04/10/2014 13:59, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:08:26 +0100, Spider wrote: You get arrested for carrying a blade these days. I can see the defence now, "I was out saving trees, your honour". With a "Ten other trees to be taken into consideration" plea ;~) Arrested by Special Branch? Your Honour, my client has now turned over a new leaf. LOL. Actually, I'm quite unrepentant. I shall rescue trees whenever they need the help of ..... Super Spider! -- Spider. On high ground in SE London gardening on heavy clay |
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"Spider" wrote in message ... On 08/10/2014 09:04, News wrote: On 04/10/2014 14:39, Spider wrote: On 04/10/2014 13:59, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:08:26 +0100, Spider wrote: You get arrested for carrying a blade these days. I can see the defence now, "I was out saving trees, your honour". With a "Ten other trees to be taken into consideration" plea ;~) Arrested by Special Branch? Your Honour, my client has now turned over a new leaf. LOL. Actually, I'm quite unrepentant. I shall rescue trees whenever they need the help of ..... Super Spider! I can see you now ... cape flying ... always getting to the root of the problem ... I http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 08/10/2014 15:37, Ophelia wrote:
"Spider" wrote in message ... On 08/10/2014 09:04, News wrote: On 04/10/2014 14:39, Spider wrote: On 04/10/2014 13:59, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:08:26 +0100, Spider wrote: You get arrested for carrying a blade these days. I can see the defence now, "I was out saving trees, your honour". With a "Ten other trees to be taken into consideration" plea ;~) Arrested by Special Branch? Your Honour, my client has now turned over a new leaf. LOL. Actually, I'm quite unrepentant. I shall rescue trees whenever they need the help of ..... Super Spider! I can see you now ... cape flying ... always getting to the root of the problem ... I http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ Aw, fangs for that, Ophelia! :~). You paint a splendid picture! If I could fly like that, I could zoom to the top of my crab apple tree and take out the branch I missed last weekend. -- Spider. On high ground in SE London gardening on heavy clay |
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"Spider" wrote in message ... On 08/10/2014 15:37, Ophelia wrote: "Spider" wrote in message ... On 08/10/2014 09:04, News wrote: On 04/10/2014 14:39, Spider wrote: On 04/10/2014 13:59, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:08:26 +0100, Spider wrote: You get arrested for carrying a blade these days. I can see the defence now, "I was out saving trees, your honour". With a "Ten other trees to be taken into consideration" plea ;~) Arrested by Special Branch? Your Honour, my client has now turned over a new leaf. LOL. Actually, I'm quite unrepentant. I shall rescue trees whenever they need the help of ..... Super Spider! I can see you now ... cape flying ... always getting to the root of the problem ... Aw, fangs for that, Ophelia! :~). You paint a splendid picture! If I could fly like that, I could zoom to the top of my crab apple tree and take out the branch I missed last weekend. Something like that would be snip for you ... -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 09/10/2014 19:51, Ophelia wrote:
"Spider" wrote in message ... On 08/10/2014 15:37, Ophelia wrote: "Spider" wrote in message ... On 08/10/2014 09:04, News wrote: On 04/10/2014 14:39, Spider wrote: On 04/10/2014 13:59, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:08:26 +0100, Spider wrote: You get arrested for carrying a blade these days. I can see the defence now, "I was out saving trees, your honour". With a "Ten other trees to be taken into consideration" plea ;~) Arrested by Special Branch? Your Honour, my client has now turned over a new leaf. LOL. Actually, I'm quite unrepentant. I shall rescue trees whenever they need the help of ..... Super Spider! I can see you now ... cape flying ... always getting to the root of the problem ... Aw, fangs for that, Ophelia! :~). You paint a splendid picture! If I could fly like that, I could zoom to the top of my crab apple tree and take out the branch I missed last weekend. Something like that would be snip for you ... Groan ;~). Sometimes I think a pair of stilts would be useful, then I could walk (wobble!) around the garden snipping at will ... and clean the windows. -- Spider. On high ground in SE London gardening on heavy clay |
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"Spider" wrote in message ... On 09/10/2014 19:51, Ophelia wrote: "Spider" wrote in message ... On 08/10/2014 15:37, Ophelia wrote: "Spider" wrote in message ... On 08/10/2014 09:04, News wrote: On 04/10/2014 14:39, Spider wrote: On 04/10/2014 13:59, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:08:26 +0100, Spider wrote: You get arrested for carrying a blade these days. I can see the defence now, "I was out saving trees, your honour". With a "Ten other trees to be taken into consideration" plea ;~) Arrested by Special Branch? Your Honour, my client has now turned over a new leaf. LOL. Actually, I'm quite unrepentant. I shall rescue trees whenever they need the help of ..... Super Spider! I can see you now ... cape flying ... always getting to the root of the problem ... Aw, fangs for that, Ophelia! :~). You paint a splendid picture! If I could fly like that, I could zoom to the top of my crab apple tree and take out the branch I missed last weekend. Something like that would be snip for you ... Groan ;~). Sometimes I think a pair of stilts would be useful, then I could walk (wobble!) around the garden snipping at will ... and clean the windows. g If your wings are in the cleaners I suppose you could use a trampoline? ;-) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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I know a Plasterer who fits stilts to do ceilings. He had a big restaurant
ceiling to do, cut his time a lot. Mike .................................................. watch this space for an advert "Spider" wrote in message ... On 09/10/2014 19:51, Ophelia wrote: "Spider" wrote in message ... On 08/10/2014 15:37, Ophelia wrote: "Spider" wrote in message ... On 08/10/2014 09:04, News wrote: On 04/10/2014 14:39, Spider wrote: On 04/10/2014 13:59, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:08:26 +0100, Spider wrote: You get arrested for carrying a blade these days. I can see the defence now, "I was out saving trees, your honour". With a "Ten other trees to be taken into consideration" plea ;~) Arrested by Special Branch? Your Honour, my client has now turned over a new leaf. LOL. Actually, I'm quite unrepentant. I shall rescue trees whenever they need the help of ..... Super Spider! I can see you now ... cape flying ... always getting to the root of the problem ... Aw, fangs for that, Ophelia! :~). You paint a splendid picture! If I could fly like that, I could zoom to the top of my crab apple tree and take out the branch I missed last weekend. Something like that would be snip for you ... Groan ;~). Sometimes I think a pair of stilts would be useful, then I could walk (wobble!) around the garden snipping at will ... and clean the windows. -- Spider. On high ground in SE London gardening on heavy clay |
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"Spider" wrote
Groan ;~). Sometimes I think a pair of stilts would be useful, then I could walk (wobble!) around the garden snipping at will ... and clean the windows. Something like these?... http://www.amazon.co.uk/Faithfull-ST.../dp/B000Y8JLGW -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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As in my posting :-)
Mike .................................................. advert will follow "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Spider" wrote Groan ;~). Sometimes I think a pair of stilts would be useful, then I could walk (wobble!) around the garden snipping at will ... and clean the windows. Something like these?... http://www.amazon.co.uk/Faithfull-ST.../dp/B000Y8JLGW -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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On 09/10/2014 23:11, Ophelia wrote:
"Spider" wrote in message ... On 09/10/2014 19:51, Ophelia wrote: "Spider" wrote in message ... On 08/10/2014 15:37, Ophelia wrote: "Spider" wrote in message ... On 08/10/2014 09:04, News wrote: On 04/10/2014 14:39, Spider wrote: On 04/10/2014 13:59, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:08:26 +0100, Spider wrote: You get arrested for carrying a blade these days. I can see the defence now, "I was out saving trees, your honour". With a "Ten other trees to be taken into consideration" plea ;~) Arrested by Special Branch? Your Honour, my client has now turned over a new leaf. LOL. Actually, I'm quite unrepentant. I shall rescue trees whenever they need the help of ..... Super Spider! I can see you now ... cape flying ... always getting to the root of the problem ... Aw, fangs for that, Ophelia! :~). You paint a splendid picture! If I could fly like that, I could zoom to the top of my crab apple tree and take out the branch I missed last weekend. Something like that would be snip for you ... Groan ;~). Sometimes I think a pair of stilts would be useful, then I could walk (wobble!) around the garden snipping at will ... and clean the windows. g If your wings are in the cleaners I suppose you could use a trampoline? ;-) Haven't got one, or I'd jump at the chance :~). -- Spider. On high ground in SE London gardening on heavy clay |
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On 10/10/2014 08:26, Bob Hobden wrote:
"Spider" wrote Groan ;~). Sometimes I think a pair of stilts would be useful, then I could walk (wobble!) around the garden snipping at will ... and clean the windows. Something like these?... http://www.amazon.co.uk/Faithfull-ST.../dp/B000Y8JLGW They look more like something you would wear after you'd crippled yourself using stilts! -- Spider. On high ground in SE London gardening on heavy clay |
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"Spider" wrote in message ... On 09/10/2014 23:11, Ophelia wrote: "Spider" wrote in message ... On 09/10/2014 19:51, Ophelia wrote: "Spider" wrote in message ... On 08/10/2014 15:37, Ophelia wrote: "Spider" wrote in message ... On 08/10/2014 09:04, News wrote: On 04/10/2014 14:39, Spider wrote: On 04/10/2014 13:59, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:08:26 +0100, Spider wrote: You get arrested for carrying a blade these days. I can see the defence now, "I was out saving trees, your honour". With a "Ten other trees to be taken into consideration" plea ;~) Arrested by Special Branch? Your Honour, my client has now turned over a new leaf. LOL. Actually, I'm quite unrepentant. I shall rescue trees whenever they need the help of ..... Super Spider! I can see you now ... cape flying ... always getting to the root of the problem ... Aw, fangs for that, Ophelia! :~). You paint a splendid picture! If I could fly like that, I could zoom to the top of my crab apple tree and take out the branch I missed last weekend. Something like that would be snip for you ... Groan ;~). Sometimes I think a pair of stilts would be useful, then I could walk (wobble!) around the garden snipping at will ... and clean the windows. g If your wings are in the cleaners I suppose you could use a trampoline? ;-) Haven't got one, or I'd jump at the chance :~). In the face of such adversity you have to bounce back eg -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"'Mike'" wrote in message ... Bob a tree which you know grow to 100ft is an easy one. You find one of the gardeners, take him to the tree 'because you have a question to ask' and when there, get your pen and pad out and ask him "Is that tree a dwarf variety because if so what is it? The normal ones grow to 100 ft and of course would not be planted to so near a house, well I have room for a small dwarf one but never a normal one" A fern? "What variety is that which will grow in the sun?" Mike Oh FGS, I doubt you would |
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