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In case anyone knows an answer, do any of them provide archives
and a reasonable search mechanism?

Other than Goggle Gropes, of course.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In case anyone knows an answer, do any of them provide archives
and a reasonable search mechanism?

Other than Goggle Gropes, of course.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

I don't think so, but I've seen my posts in any group I post to via NIN
available in Google archives so why would they need to provide an archive
themselves?
Or maybe they do, you could always ask them. If you e-mail them with a
question you don't get an automated response, you get a real person replying
;-)

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On 01/11/14 10:48, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In case anyone knows an answer, do any of them provide archives
and a reasonable search mechanism?

I don't know of any that provide archives as such but I understand that
some commercial services have very long retention times which might do
what you want.


--
Bernard Peek


In search of cognoscenti (again)

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Nick Maclaren wrote:

In case anyone knows an answer, do any of them provide archives
and a reasonable search mechanism?

Other than Goggle Gropes, of course.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Try the German server "Individual.new.NET" :

http://news.individual.net at

A retention period of 584 days.

Peter

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The e-mail address obviously doesn't exist. If it's essential
that you contact me then try peterATpfjamesDOTcoDOTuk

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"Peter James" wrote in message
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Try the German server "Individual.new.NET" :

http://news.individual.net at

A retention period of 584 days.


Just fine - only if you do not want binary gropes (:-)

Pete (another !)

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In article ,
Bernard Peek wrote:

In case anyone knows an answer, do any of them provide archives
and a reasonable search mechanism?

I don't know of any that provide archives as such but I understand that
some commercial services have very long retention times which might do
what you want.

Thanks, but that's NOT what I want. I am far more interested in
being able to look up postings of the 1980s. Even Goggle Gropes
doesn't go back before 1981, though :-(


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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On 02/11/14 10:16, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Bernard Peek wrote:

In case anyone knows an answer, do any of them provide archives
and a reasonable search mechanism?

I don't know of any that provide archives as such but I understand that
some commercial services have very long retention times which might do
what you want.

Thanks, but that's NOT what I want. I am far more interested in
being able to look up postings of the 1980s. Even Goggle Gropes
doesn't go back before 1981, though :-(

Well you could try nntp.oldnews.net if you have enough patience. It's
releasing Darpanet posts day-by-day. It's quite possible that someone
somewhere, probably a university, has kept their archives but I don't
know of any that are accessible to the public. If you can tell them
precisely what you are looking for your local library may have access to
academic sources that can't be reached in any other way,

--
Bernard Peek


In search of cognoscenti (again)

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In article ,
Bernard Peek wrote:

In case anyone knows an answer, do any of them provide archives
and a reasonable search mechanism?

I don't know of any that provide archives as such but I understand that
some commercial services have very long retention times which might do
what you want.

Thanks, but that's NOT what I want. I am far more interested in
being able to look up postings of the 1980s. Even Goggle Gropes
doesn't go back before 1981, though :-(

Well you could try nntp.oldnews.net if you have enough patience. It's
releasing Darpanet posts day-by-day. It's quite possible that someone
somewhere, probably a university, has kept their archives but I don't
know of any that are accessible to the public. If you can tell them
precisely what you are looking for your local library may have access to
academic sources that can't be reached in any other way,

Thanks very much. It's actually nntp.olduse.net.

I am pretty certain that no university has kept archives, because
quite a lot of us tried to interest TPTB in such things, but the
attitude was "Who gives a damn about the weebling of geeks?
Anyway, computing isn't interesting enough to be worth keeping
detailed records of." Seriously :-(


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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On 01/11/2014 10:48, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In case anyone knows an answer, do any of them provide archives
and a reasonable search mechanism?

Have you tried newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/

I haven't tried its search facilities (I know of it because it comes up
in Google web searches), but if they aren't up to scratch you could try
a Google web search on the domain.


Other than Goggle Gropes, of course.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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On 02/11/2014 12:17, Nick Maclaren wrote:
"Who gives a damn about the weebling of geeks?

Thirty three years ago.

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In article ,
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
On 01/11/2014 10:48, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In case anyone knows an answer, do any of them provide archives
and a reasonable search mechanism?

Have you tried newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/

I haven't tried its search facilities (I know of it because it comes up
in Google web searches), but if they aren't up to scratch you could try
a Google web search on the domain.

No, I hadn't - thanks. But it goes back to only 2005.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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In article ,
soup wrote:
On 02/11/2014 12:17, Nick Maclaren wrote:
"Who gives a damn about the weebling of geeks?

Thirty three years ago.

Not just then. While the attitude was perhaps understandable
four decades back (most people thought that computing would
remain a specialised niche, with very limited uses), I and
others were still faced with that attitude a decade and less
back.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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"Nick Maclaren" wrote


In case anyone knows an answer, do any of them provide archives
and a reasonable search mechanism?

Other than Goggle Gropes, of course.


There is this one which I think needs your computing skill to work out, I
can't. :-(
https://archive.org/details/usenet

then there is this... which you have probably already worked your way
through...
http://www.livinginternet.com/u/uu_arch.htm


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Regards. Bob Hobden.
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In article ,
Bob Hobden wrote:

In case anyone knows an answer, do any of them provide archives
and a reasonable search mechanism?

Other than Goggle Gropes, of course.

There is this one which I think needs your computing skill to work out, I
can't. :-(
https://archive.org/details/usenet

As far as I can see, it is a largely uncollated collection of
miscellany, and actually contains very little.

then there is this... which you have probably already worked your way
through...
http://www.livinginternet.com/u/uu_arch.htm

I hadn't, but thanks. It confirms my belief that there are no extant
archives of most of the groups I am interested in, except for the
DejaNews one now owned by Google. And, as I understand it, even
that is very patchy.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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On 06/11/2014 08:54, Nick Maclaren wrote:

soup wrote:
Thirty three years ago.
Not just then.

It was you that said you couldn't find archives that went back beyond 1981.