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trees in the park
Every time I stroll round a London park I'm frustrated by not knowing
the names of the trees, particularly those that have obviously been around for ever. There is one in flower in St.James Park at the moment which everyone was stopping to admire (and smell). These days one might expect there to be a plan of such things online. Sure, in this case it would mostly be plane, but there are some unusual ones too. Anyone any ideas how one might get this information? TIA |
trees in the park
On 18/07/2015 12:56, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:41:03 +0100, stuart noble wrote: Every time I stroll round a London park I'm frustrated by not knowing the names of the trees, particularly those that have obviously been around for ever. There is one in flower in St.James Park at the moment which everyone was stopping to admire (and smell). These days one might expect there to be a plan of such things online. Sure, in this case it would mostly be plane, but there are some unusual ones too. Anyone any ideas how one might get this information? TIA GIYF. Try one of these. http://tinyurl.com/mzswjyx or http://tinyurl.com/or2bh97 or http://tinyurl.com/pvndzzy or http://tinyurl.com/oqwu9bt Thanks, but kind of irrelevant to the question |
trees in the park
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:24:20 +0100, stuart noble
wrote: On 18/07/2015 12:56, Chris Hogg wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:41:03 +0100, stuart noble wrote: Every time I stroll round a London park I'm frustrated by not knowing the names of the trees, particularly those that have obviously been around for ever. There is one in flower in St.James Park at the moment which everyone was stopping to admire (and smell). These days one might expect there to be a plan of such things online. Sure, in this case it would mostly be plane, but there are some unusual ones too. Anyone any ideas how one might get this information? TIA GIYF. Try one of these. http://tinyurl.com/mzswjyx or http://tinyurl.com/or2bh97 or http://tinyurl.com/pvndzzy or http://tinyurl.com/oqwu9bt Thanks, but kind of irrelevant to the question You want to know what the trees are. Chris gave you two sites to help you! |
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On 18/07/2015 14:40, Pam Moore wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:24:20 +0100, stuart noble wrote: On 18/07/2015 12:56, Chris Hogg wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:41:03 +0100, stuart noble wrote: Every time I stroll round a London park I'm frustrated by not knowing the names of the trees, particularly those that have obviously been around for ever. There is one in flower in St.James Park at the moment which everyone was stopping to admire (and smell). These days one might expect there to be a plan of such things online. Sure, in this case it would mostly be plane, but there are some unusual ones too. Anyone any ideas how one might get this information? TIA GIYF. Try one of these. http://tinyurl.com/mzswjyx or http://tinyurl.com/or2bh97 or http://tinyurl.com/pvndzzy or http://tinyurl.com/oqwu9bt Thanks, but kind of irrelevant to the question You want to know what the trees are. Chris gave you two sites to help you! The Royal Parks Dept presumably know what the trees are. My question was whether such information is available to the public. Why would it not be? Perhaps it's a state secret |
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On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:55:03 +0100, stuart noble
wrote: On 18/07/2015 14:40, Pam Moore wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:24:20 +0100, stuart noble wrote: On 18/07/2015 12:56, Chris Hogg wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:41:03 +0100, stuart noble wrote: Every time I stroll round a London park I'm frustrated by not knowing the names of the trees, particularly those that have obviously been around for ever. There is one in flower in St.James Park at the moment which everyone was stopping to admire (and smell). These days one might expect there to be a plan of such things online. Sure, in this case it would mostly be plane, but there are some unusual ones too. Anyone any ideas how one might get this information? TIA GIYF. Try one of these. http://tinyurl.com/mzswjyx or http://tinyurl.com/or2bh97 or http://tinyurl.com/pvndzzy or http://tinyurl.com/oqwu9bt Thanks, but kind of irrelevant to the question You want to know what the trees are. Chris gave you two sites to help you! The Royal Parks Dept presumably know what the trees are. My question was whether such information is available to the public. Why would it not be? Perhaps it's a state secret To me it looks like you need a sort of Google Earth with tree name. I've just tried zooming in to St.James Park and it is possible to see individual trees. Perhaps somebody should start labeling them. Have a look at St.James Park and tell us which tree you want to know about? Someone in this group may be able to recognise and identify it from above. Steve -- Neural Network Software for Windows http://www.npsnn.com EasyNN-plus More than just a neural network http://www.easynn.com |
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On 18/07/2015 16:08, Janet wrote:
In article , says... On 18/07/2015 12:56, Chris Hogg wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:41:03 +0100, stuart noble wrote: Every time I stroll round a London park I'm frustrated by not knowing the names of the trees, particularly those that have obviously been around for ever. There is one in flower in St.James Park at the moment which everyone was stopping to admire (and smell). These days one might expect there to be a plan of such things online. Sure, in this case it would mostly be plane, but there are some unusual ones too. Anyone any ideas how one might get this information? TIA GIYF. Try one of these. http://tinyurl.com/mzswjyx or http://tinyurl.com/or2bh97 or http://tinyurl.com/pvndzzy or http://tinyurl.com/oqwu9bt Thanks, but kind of irrelevant to the question Irrelevant??? You asked for "a plan of such things online". You were directed to the online results of The Urban Tree Survey, which identifies individual trees and mapped their location. Janet. Actually I was not directed to the Urban Tree Survey but to the link below it, which is another "identify this tree" guide. However the survey sounds interesting, so thanks for mentioning it. My initial point remains though. Somewhere there must exist a plan showing at least the well established trees in the Royal Parks, and this would be of great interest to visitors. The Trees of London site http://www.londontrees.co.uk is very informative, but doesn't include any of the main parks. |
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On 18/07/2015 15:41, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:55:03 +0100, stuart noble wrote: On 18/07/2015 14:40, Pam Moore wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:24:20 +0100, stuart noble wrote: On 18/07/2015 12:56, Chris Hogg wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:41:03 +0100, stuart noble wrote: Every time I stroll round a London park I'm frustrated by not knowing the names of the trees, particularly those that have obviously been around for ever. There is one in flower in St.James Park at the moment which everyone was stopping to admire (and smell). These days one might expect there to be a plan of such things online. Sure, in this case it would mostly be plane, but there are some unusual ones too. Anyone any ideas how one might get this information? TIA GIYF. Try one of these. http://tinyurl.com/mzswjyx or http://tinyurl.com/or2bh97 or http://tinyurl.com/pvndzzy or http://tinyurl.com/oqwu9bt Thanks, but kind of irrelevant to the question You want to know what the trees are. Chris gave you two sites to help you! The Royal Parks Dept presumably know what the trees are. My question was whether such information is available to the public. Why would it not be? Perhaps it's a state secret To me it looks like you need a sort of Google Earth with tree name. I've just tried zooming in to St.James Park and it is possible to see individual trees. Perhaps somebody should start labeling them. Have a look at St.James Park and tell us which tree you want to know about? Someone in this group may be able to recognise and identify it from above. Steve Thanks for taking the trouble to zoom. As it happens the little Google car has been along all the paths in the park, so some decent images may yet be available in Street View. A fascinating virtual tour of the park. |
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"stuart noble" wrote in message ...
Every time I stroll round a London park I'm frustrated by not knowing the names of the trees, particularly those that have obviously been around for ever. There is one in flower in St.James Park at the moment which everyone was stopping to admire (and smell). These days one might expect there to be a plan of such things online. Sure, in this case it would mostly be plane, but there are some unusual ones too. Anyone any ideas how one might get this information? TIA You may find this of some help, scroll down... https://www.royalparks.org.uk/press-...al-parks/trees -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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On 18/07/2015 9:56 PM, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:41:03 +0100, stuart noble wrote: Every time I stroll round a London park I'm frustrated by not knowing the names of the trees, particularly those that have obviously been around for ever. There is one in flower in St.James Park at the moment which everyone was stopping to admire (and smell). These days one might expect there to be a plan of such things online. Sure, in this case it would mostly be plane, but there are some unusual ones too. Anyone any ideas how one might get this information? TIA GIYF. Try one of these. http://tinyurl.com/mzswjyx or http://tinyurl.com/or2bh97 or http://tinyurl.com/pvndzzy or http://tinyurl.com/oqwu9bt Wow! Thank you so much for posting those links. I'm not all that great at identifying European trees and those links will be a great help to me and make me observe the tree before I get near a computer. |
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On 18/07/2015 22:47, Bob Hobden wrote:
"stuart noble" wrote in message ... Every time I stroll round a London park I'm frustrated by not knowing the names of the trees, particularly those that have obviously been around for ever. There is one in flower in St.James Park at the moment which everyone was stopping to admire (and smell). These days one might expect there to be a plan of such things online. Sure, in this case it would mostly be plane, but there are some unusual ones too. Anyone any ideas how one might get this information? TIA You may find this of some help, scroll down... https://www.royalparks.org.uk/press-...al-parks/trees Thanks Bob. Very interesting, and strange that I didn't come across it when searching the site. One wonders what London would look like without its plane trees! |
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On 19/07/2015 03:59, Fran Farmer wrote:
On 18/07/2015 9:56 PM, Chris Hogg wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:41:03 +0100, stuart noble wrote: Every time I stroll round a London park I'm frustrated by not knowing the names of the trees, particularly those that have obviously been around for ever. There is one in flower in St.James Park at the moment which everyone was stopping to admire (and smell). These days one might expect there to be a plan of such things online. Sure, in this case it would mostly be plane, but there are some unusual ones too. Anyone any ideas how one might get this information? TIA GIYF. Try one of these. http://tinyurl.com/mzswjyx or http://tinyurl.com/or2bh97 or http://tinyurl.com/pvndzzy or http://tinyurl.com/oqwu9bt Wow! Thank you so much for posting those links. I'm not all that great at identifying European trees and those links will be a great help to me and make me observe the tree before I get near a computer. I have the Collins Guide to British Trees but somehow it's never with me when I come across an unfamiliar tree. The Natural History Museum survey is interesting but records only one tree in the whole of St.James Park! And now the survey is closed. I hope it won't be long before a smartphone app emerges that tells you what sort of tree you're standing next to. Technically doable but are there enough arboriculturists? |
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 10:08:09 +0100, stuart noble
wrote: On 19/07/2015 03:59, Fran Farmer wrote: On 18/07/2015 9:56 PM, Chris Hogg wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:41:03 +0100, stuart noble wrote: Every time I stroll round a London park I'm frustrated by not knowing the names of the trees, particularly those that have obviously been around for ever. There is one in flower in St.James Park at the moment which everyone was stopping to admire (and smell). These days one might expect there to be a plan of such things online. Sure, in this case it would mostly be plane, but there are some unusual ones too. Anyone any ideas how one might get this information? TIA GIYF. Try one of these. http://tinyurl.com/mzswjyx or http://tinyurl.com/or2bh97 or http://tinyurl.com/pvndzzy or http://tinyurl.com/oqwu9bt Wow! Thank you so much for posting those links. I'm not all that great at identifying European trees and those links will be a great help to me and make me observe the tree before I get near a computer. I have the Collins Guide to British Trees but somehow it's never with me when I come across an unfamiliar tree. The Natural History Museum survey is interesting but records only one tree in the whole of St.James Park! And now the survey is closed. I hope it won't be long before a smartphone app emerges that tells you what sort of tree you're standing next to. Technically doable but are there enough arboriculturists? What is needed is an application with the ability to recognise trees from their visual appearance. It's an image recognition but that's a long way off. Facial and number plate recognition are just a small step. Steve -- Neural Network Software for Windows http://www.npsnn.com EasyNN-plus More than just a neural network http://www.easynn.com |
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:44:25 +0100, stuart noble wrote:
On 18/07/2015 22:47, Bob Hobden wrote: "stuart noble" wrote in message ... Every time I stroll round a London park I'm frustrated by not knowing the names of the trees, particularly those that have obviously been around for ever. There is one in flower in St.James Park at the moment which everyone was stopping to admire (and smell). These days one might expect there to be a plan of such things online. Sure, in this case it would mostly be plane, but there are some unusual ones too. Anyone any ideas how one might get this information? TIA You may find this of some help, scroll down... https://www.royalparks.org.uk/press-...-on-the-royal- parks/trees Thanks Bob. Very interesting, and strange that I didn't come across it when searching the site. One wonders what London would look like without its plane trees! Have you tried the forestry commission? Just an idea, not guaranteed to be a good one. :) The royalparks site has errors that I noticed at a glance. They call Nyssa sylvatica (I just killed one, hence the interest) a "tulip tree" but in fact it is called a Black Tupelo, or Blackgum. Also they claim Acer saccharinum is used for syrup, confusing it with Acer saccharum, a common mistake. In actuality it's a poor syrup tree. /pendant mode. -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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"Emery Davis" wrote
stuart noble wrote: Bob Hobden wrote: "stuart noble" wrote Every time I stroll round a London park I'm frustrated by not knowing the names of the trees, particularly those that have obviously been around for ever. There is one in flower in St.James Park at the moment which everyone was stopping to admire (and smell). These days one might expect there to be a plan of such things online. Sure, in this case it would mostly be plane, but there are some unusual ones too. Anyone any ideas how one might get this information? TIA You may find this of some help, scroll down... https://www.royalparks.org.uk/press-...-on-the-royal- parks/trees Thanks Bob. Very interesting, and strange that I didn't come across it when searching the site. One wonders what London would look like without its plane trees! Have you tried the forestry commission? Just an idea, not guaranteed to be a good one. :) The royalparks site has errors that I noticed at a glance. They call Nyssa sylvatica (I just killed one, hence the interest) a "tulip tree" but in fact it is called a Black Tupelo, or Blackgum. Also they claim Acer saccharinum is used for syrup, confusing it with Acer saccharum, a common mistake. In actuality it's a poor syrup tree. /pendant mode. Well don't hang about too long. :-) Email the Royal Parks and put them straight. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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