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David Hill 13-01-2016 12:39 PM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
In Tesco yesterday I noticed that their premium parsnips claimed to be
grown in Mineraly enriched soil.
Any ideas whay this could be other than soil with fretilizer in it?
David @ a very soggy side of Swansea Bay

Stewart Robert Hinsley 13-01-2016 12:57 PM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
On 13/01/2016 12:39, David Hill wrote:
In Tesco yesterday I noticed that their premium parsnips claimed to be
grown in Mineraly enriched soil.
Any ideas whay this could be other than soil with fretilizer in it?
David @ a very soggy side of Swansea Bay


In this case I'm guessing that it's referring to trace elements rather
than the usual NPK(+Ca+S). It could be referring to soil in which a
mineral supplement (e.g. rock dust) has been added, or it could be
referring to a soil which naturally has higher levels of minerals.

One does hear about pastures being dressed with various elements to
address trace element deficiencies in cattle and sheeped.

--
SRH

Nick Maclaren[_5_] 13-01-2016 01:02 PM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
In article ,
David Hill wrote:
In Tesco yesterday I noticed that their premium parsnips claimed to be
grown in Mineraly enriched soil.
Any ideas whay this could be other than soil with fretilizer in it?


Soil contaminated by heavy metals?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren[_5_] 13-01-2016 01:51 PM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
In article ,
Chris Hogg wrote:

But I suspect in reality your mineraly enriched soil is just marketing
bullshit, designed to impress the ignorant.


Unfortunately, short of domestic violence, I can't stop my wife
shopping at Tescos. I have seen several such bullshitting claims,
but I now forget the details of the others. The most common
'mineral' added to soil is lime, of course.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren[_5_] 13-01-2016 02:25 PM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
In article ,
Martin wrote:

But I suspect in reality your mineraly enriched soil is just marketing
bullshit, designed to impress the ignorant.


Unfortunately, short of domestic violence, I can't stop my wife
shopping at Tescos. I have seen several such bullshitting claims,
but I now forget the details of the others.


Healthy high sugar content food?


Oh, no! That's almost justifiable. The claims were far more purely
marketing spiel.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Gary Woods 13-01-2016 02:35 PM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
(Nick Maclaren) wrote:

I have seen several such bullshitting claims,
but I now forget the details of the others.


My favorite is "made with real ingredients."

I remember years ago when I brought a soil sample to the local farm sto
guy did ph test, his eyes lit up and he said happily, "well, we can sell
you a LOT of lime!"


--
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Stephen Wolstenholme[_5_] 13-01-2016 03:05 PM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 13:51:19 -0000 (UTC), (Nick
Maclaren) wrote:

In article ,
Chris Hogg wrote:

But I suspect in reality your mineraly enriched soil is just marketing
bullshit, designed to impress the ignorant.


Unfortunately, short of domestic violence, I can't stop my wife
shopping at Tescos. I have seen several such bullshitting claims,
but I now forget the details of the others. The most common
'mineral' added to soil is lime, of course.



It could be worse. She could shop at Morrisons or Waitrose.

Steve

--
Neural Network Software for Windows
http://www.npsnn.com


Nick Maclaren[_5_] 13-01-2016 04:16 PM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
In article ,
Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

But I suspect in reality your mineraly enriched soil is just marketing
bullshit, designed to impress the ignorant.


Unfortunately, short of domestic violence, I can't stop my wife
shopping at Tescos. I have seen several such bullshitting claims,
but I now forget the details of the others. The most common
'mineral' added to soil is lime, of course.


It could be worse. She could shop at Morrisons or Waitrose.


My objections to Tescos are ethical.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Bob Hobden 13-01-2016 04:52 PM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
"Nick Maclaren" wrote

In article ,
David Hill wrote:
In Tesco yesterday I noticed that their premium parsnips claimed to be
grown in Mineraly enriched soil.
Any ideas whay this could be other than soil with fretilizer in it?


Soil contaminated by heavy metals?


You cynic! :-)

--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK


Martin Brown 13-01-2016 05:06 PM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
On 13/01/2016 13:02, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
David Hill wrote:


In Tesco yesterday I noticed that their premium parsnips claimed to be
grown in Mineraly enriched soil.
Any ideas whay this could be other than soil with fretilizer in it?


Soil contaminated by heavy metals?


I suspect it may mean grown in China where they have a habit of using
cheap Rare Earth minerals as fertiliser with allegedly good results.
Been going on for a couple of decades now (eg):

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12008295

I'd be wary of the thorium content of such minerals YMMV.

I can't find anything much that isn't behind a paywall but if you have
academic access then a search on REE fertiliser China ought to get it.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Nick Maclaren[_5_] 13-01-2016 05:47 PM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
In article ,
Martin Brown wrote:

In Tesco yesterday I noticed that their premium parsnips claimed to be
grown in Mineraly enriched soil.
Any ideas whay this could be other than soil with fretilizer in it?


Soil contaminated by heavy metals?


I suspect it may mean grown in China where they have a habit of using
cheap Rare Earth minerals as fertiliser with allegedly good results.
Been going on for a couple of decades now (eg):

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12008295

I'd be wary of the thorium content of such minerals YMMV.

I can't find anything much that isn't behind a paywall but if you have
academic access then a search on REE fertiliser China ought to get it.


Then try 'rare earth toxic'. We do so need to get rid of the EU
nanny state and back to the glorious days of yore, when merchants
were allowed to sell freely without having to obey ridiculous
restrictions. What's wrong with sugar of lead in wine, or copper
in pickles? And why should manufacturerss have to forced to disclose
their secrets, like the ingredients?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 13-01-2016 10:55 PM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
On 13/01/2016 13:02, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
David Hill wrote:
In Tesco yesterday I noticed that their premium parsnips claimed to be
grown in Mineraly enriched soil.
Any ideas whay this could be other than soil with fretilizer in it?


Soil contaminated by heavy metals?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

That was my thought! we are not supposed to eat any root veg from our
garden due to heavy metal and arsenic in the sub soil so not perhaps the
best way to advertise veg!!

--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
National collections of Clematis viticella & Lapageria rosea

Nick Maclaren[_5_] 14-01-2016 10:39 AM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
In article ,
Charlie Pridham wrote:

In Tesco yesterday I noticed that their premium parsnips claimed to be
grown in Mineraly enriched soil.
Any ideas whay this could be other than soil with fretilizer in it?


Soil contaminated by heavy metals?

That was my thought! we are not supposed to eat any root veg from our
garden due to heavy metal and arsenic in the sub soil so not perhaps the
best way to advertise veg!!


Interesting. You are lucky that you are in the wet West, then,
because breathing soil dust can't be good, either. Incidentally,
I did a recent look to see if anyone had found out how arsenic
is essential to animal metabolism and it seems to be still a
mystery; it is also quite possible that arsenic deficiency may be
an undiagnosed problem in some cases.



Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Tom Gardner[_2_] 14-01-2016 12:59 PM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
On 13/01/16 22:55, Charlie Pridham wrote:
On 13/01/2016 13:02, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
David Hill wrote:
In Tesco yesterday I noticed that their premium parsnips claimed to be
grown in Mineraly enriched soil.
Any ideas whay this could be other than soil with fretilizer in it?


Soil contaminated by heavy metals?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

That was my thought! we are not supposed to eat any root veg from our garden due
to heavy metal and arsenic in the sub soil so not perhaps the best way to
advertise veg!!


I was surprised to find:
The legacy of mining also remains in the form of heavy metal
contamination of the soil. Shipham has the highest levels of
cadmium in the soil anywhere in the UK. Cadmium is a toxic
metal associated with old zinc mine workings. However, a
study found that the cadmium in the soil is tightly bound
up in minerals, and is not readily available for uptake by
plants. It therefore does not enter the food chain and has
no measurable effect on health.
https://www.bgs.ac.uk/mendips/localities/shipham.html

Also
http://randd.defra.gov.uk/Document.a...xF-Cadmium.pdf

Jeff Layman[_2_] 14-01-2016 01:33 PM

Mineraly enriched soil?
 
On 13/01/16 22:55, Charlie Pridham wrote:
On 13/01/2016 13:02, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
David Hill wrote:
In Tesco yesterday I noticed that their premium parsnips claimed to be
grown in Mineraly enriched soil.
Any ideas whay this could be other than soil with fretilizer in it?


Soil contaminated by heavy metals?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

That was my thought! we are not supposed to eat any root veg from our
garden due to heavy metal and arsenic in the sub soil so not perhaps the
best way to advertise veg!!


I wonder if there is any evidence that all the Cornish wildlife eating
wild fruit, leaves, stems, etc is being poisoned, and is suffering as a
result.

--

Jeff


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