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SJP 20-09-2016 05:04 PM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
Hello,

I’ve recently taken on the management of a somewhat overgrown 1.5 acre orchard and I’m struggling to keep the thick hill-grass, docks, nettles and thistles under control. I’ve used a mixture of a medium-powered strimmer and an Austrian scythe, but it’s a good 6-8 day job with either. Is there something that I can buy that can cut this in a day or so? I don’t have a tractor, van, fork-lift, or the like, and the access is poor. As such I need something that is both small enough to fit in a car-boot and light enough to lift, push, etc. I want a tool that can cut 4-6 months growth of this grass, etc. 2-3 times a year. Does anyone have some recommendations?

Am I correct in thinking that a power scythe would be to bulky, heavy and expensive? I was considering a very powerful second-hand Stihl brushcutter or a wheeled trimmer, but, whilst quicker that what I’m currently using, would either be a sufficient enough upgrade to warrant buying one or the other? Ultimately, the machines I’ve ended up considering are the following:
SHERPA Paddock Master Drum Mower
SHERPA Bravo Rough Cutter

I would be delighted to hear any advice. Many thanks.

charliepridham 20-09-2016 11:39 PM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
On 20/09/2016 17:04, SJP wrote:
Hello,

I’ve recently taken on the management of a somewhat overgrown 1.5 acre
orchard and I’m struggling to keep the thick hill-grass, docks, nettles
and thistles under control. I’ve used a mixture of a medium-powered
strimmer and an Austrian scythe, but it’s a good 6-8 day job with
either. Is there something that I can buy that can cut this in a day or
so? I don’t have a tractor, van, fork-lift, or the like, and the access
is poor. As such I need something that is both small enough to fit in a
car-boot and light enough to lift, push, etc. I want a tool that can cut
4-6 months growth of this grass, etc. 2-3 times a year. Does anyone have
some recommendations?

Am I correct in thinking that a power scythe would be to bulky, heavy
and expensive? I was considering a very powerful second-hand Stihl
brushcutter or a wheeled trimmer, but, whilst quicker that what I’m
currently using, would either be a sufficient enough upgrade to warrant
buying one or the other? Ultimately, the machines I’ve ended up
considering are the following:
SHERPA Paddock Master Drum Mower
SHERPA Bravo Rough Cutter

I would be delighted to hear any advice. Many thanks.




I would have thought any half decent petrol strimmer with the correct
cord, shoulder harness and cowhorn handles would do the job in less than
a day (although you may need/deserve a beer after) :~)

--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
National collections of Clematis viticella & Lapageria rosea

Janet G 21-09-2016 08:17 AM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
I invested in DR wheeled trimmer-mower which I find easier and quicker than a normal strimmer. As a small person, wielding a robust strimmer is heavy on the arms and shoulders after a while. This trimmer also has very thick strong cord so it cuts through tough docks etc easily.
Janet G

Janet 21-09-2016 12:33 PM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
In article ,
says...

I invested in DR wheeled trimmer-mower which I find easier and quicker than a normal strimmer. As a small person, wielding a robust strimmer is heavy on the arms and shoulders after a while. This trimmer also has very thick strong cord so it cuts through tough docks etc easily.
Janet G


It would be a good idea to try out a few different options before
buying; which the OP can do by hiring. That way he won't end up with a
machine that's too weak for the job or one that he finds too heavy or
painful.

Janet ( Arran)



Spider[_3_] 21-09-2016 01:36 PM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
On 20/09/2016 17:04, SJP wrote:

Hello,

I’ve recently taken on the management of a somewhat overgrown 1.5 acre
orchard and I’m struggling to keep the thick hill-grass, docks, nettles
and thistles under control. I’ve used a mixture of a medium-powered
strimmer and an Austrian scythe, but it’s a good 6-8 day job with
either. Is there something that I can buy that can cut this in a day or
so? I don’t have a tractor, van, fork-lift, or the like, and the access
is poor. As such I need something that is both small enough to fit in a
car-boot and light enough to lift, push, etc. I want a tool that can cut
4-6 months growth of this grass, etc. 2-3 times a year. Does anyone have
some recommendations?

Am I correct in thinking that a power scythe would be to bulky, heavy
and expensive? I was considering a very powerful second-hand Stihl
brushcutter or a wheeled trimmer, but, whilst quicker that what I’m
currently using, would either be a sufficient enough upgrade to warrant
buying one or the other? Ultimately, the machines I’ve ended up
considering are the following:
SHERPA Paddock Master Drum Mower
SHERPA Bravo Rough Cutter

I would be delighted to hear any advice. Many thanks.




Having read the previous posts, I shall leave experience/expertise on
machinery and tools to others, but I did wonder if you might weaken the
grass at least with the use of yellow rattle?
--
Spider
On high ground in SE London
Gardening on heavy clay

David Hill 21-09-2016 05:36 PM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
On 21/09/2016 12:33, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...

I invested in DR wheeled trimmer-mower which I find easier and quicker than a normal strimmer. As a small person, wielding a robust strimmer is heavy on the arms and shoulders after a while. This trimmer also has very thick strong cord so it cuts through tough docks etc easily.
Janet G


It would be a good idea to try out a few different options before
buying; which the OP can do by hiring. That way he won't end up with a
machine that's too weak for the job or one that he finds too heavy or
painful.

Janet ( Arran)



OR get someone in to clear it to stare then he would be able to use a
lighter machine to keep it down.

Chris Green 21-09-2016 09:15 PM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
charliepridham wrote:
On 20/09/2016 17:04, SJP wrote:
Hello,

I’ve recently taken on the management of a somewhat overgrown 1.5 acre
orchard and I’m struggling to keep the thick hill-grass, docks, nettles
and thistles under control. I’ve used a mixture of a medium-powered
strimmer and an Austrian scythe, but it’s a good 6-8 day job with
either. Is there something that I can buy that can cut this in a day or
so? I don’t have a tractor, van, fork-lift, or the like, and the access
is poor. As such I need something that is both small enough to fit in a
car-boot and light enough to lift, push, etc. I want a tool that can cut
4-6 months growth of this grass, etc. 2-3 times a year. Does anyone have
some recommendations?

Am I correct in thinking that a power scythe would be to bulky, heavy
and expensive? I was considering a very powerful second-hand Stihl
brushcutter or a wheeled trimmer, but, whilst quicker that what I’m
currently using, would either be a sufficient enough upgrade to warrant
buying one or the other? Ultimately, the machines I’ve ended up
considering are the following:
SHERPA Paddock Master Drum Mower
SHERPA Bravo Rough Cutter

I would be delighted to hear any advice. Many thanks.




I would have thought any half decent petrol strimmer with the correct
cord, shoulder harness and cowhorn handles would do the job in less than
a day (although you may need/deserve a beer after) :~)

NO, not really, the 'under the trees' bit makes it take a *long* time
in my experience.

--
Chris Green
·

Jeßus[_17_] 23-09-2016 02:07 AM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:04:09 +0200, SJP
wrote:


Hello,

I’ve recently taken on the management of a somewhat overgrown 1.5 acre
orchard and I’m struggling to keep the thick hill-grass, docks, nettles
and thistles under control. I’ve used a mixture of a medium-powered
strimmer and an Austrian scythe, but it’s a good 6-8 day job with
either. Is there something that I can buy that can cut this in a day or
so? I don’t have a tractor, van, fork-lift, or the like, and the access
is poor. As such I need something that is both small enough to fit in a
car-boot and light enough to lift, push, etc. I want a tool that can cut
4-6 months growth of this grass, etc. 2-3 times a year. Does anyone have
some recommendations?

snip
I would be delighted to hear any advice. Many thanks.


Is the orchard well fenced? 2-4 sheep on 1.5 acres should keep the
grass under control, improve the soil and eventually eliminate most
weeds. They browse a little on the trees but shouldnt cause any real
harm. I do this myself.

Jeßus[_17_] 23-09-2016 02:08 AM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 08:07:22 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:

On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:04:09 +0200, SJP
wrote:


Hello,

I’ve recently taken on the management of a somewhat overgrown 1.5 acre
orchard and I’m struggling to keep the thick hill-grass, docks, nettles
and thistles under control. I’ve used a mixture of a medium-powered
strimmer and an Austrian scythe, but it’s a good 6-8 day job with
either. Is there something that I can buy that can cut this in a day or
so? I don’t have a tractor, van, fork-lift, or the like, and the access
is poor. As such I need something that is both small enough to fit in a
car-boot and light enough to lift, push, etc. I want a tool that can cut
4-6 months growth of this grass, etc. 2-3 times a year. Does anyone have
some recommendations?

Am I correct in thinking that a power scythe would be to bulky, heavy
and expensive? I was considering a very powerful second-hand Stihl
brushcutter or a wheeled trimmer, but, whilst quicker that what I’m
currently using, would either be a sufficient enough upgrade to warrant
buying one or the other? Ultimately, the machines I’ve ended up
considering are the following:
SHERPA Paddock Master Drum Mower
SHERPA Bravo Rough Cutter

I would be delighted to hear any advice. Many thanks.


Sheep?


That would be my solution.

[email protected] 23-09-2016 08:23 AM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:07:46 +1000, Jeßus wrote:


Is the orchard well fenced? 2-4 sheep on 1.5 acres should keep the
grass under control, improve the soil and eventually eliminate most
weeds. They browse a little on the trees but shouldnt cause any real
harm. I do this myself.


Any particular favourite? Apple, Pear, a nice bit of Birch for
breakfast.



G.Harman

David Hill 23-09-2016 10:19 AM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
On 23/09/2016 02:08, Je�us wrote:
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 08:07:22 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:

On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:04:09 +0200, SJP
wrote:


Hello,

I’ve recently taken on the management of a somewhat overgrown 1.5 acre
orchard and I’m struggling to keep the thick hill-grass, docks, nettles
and thistles under control. I’ve used a mixture of a medium-powered
strimmer and an Austrian scythe, but it’s a good 6-8 day job with
either. Is there something that I can buy that can cut this in a day or
so? I don’t have a tractor, van, fork-lift, or the like, and the access
is poor. As such I need something that is both small enough to fit in a
car-boot and light enough to lift, push, etc. I want a tool that can cut
4-6 months growth of this grass, etc. 2-3 times a year. Does anyone have
some recommendations?

Am I correct in thinking that a power scythe would be to bulky, heavy
and expensive? I was considering a very powerful second-hand Stihl
brushcutter or a wheeled trimmer, but, whilst quicker that what I’m
currently using, would either be a sufficient enough upgrade to warrant
buying one or the other? Ultimately, the machines I’ve ended up
considering are the following:
SHERPA Paddock Master Drum Mower
SHERPA Bravo Rough Cutter

I would be delighted to hear any advice. Many thanks.


Sheep?


That would be my solution.

Sheep don't like long grass. Goats would do but they would like low
branches as well.

Nick Maclaren[_5_] 23-09-2016 10:58 AM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
In article ,
David Hill wrote:

I've recently taken on the management of a somewhat overgrown 1.5 acre
orchard and I'm struggling to keep the thick hill-grass, docks, nettles
and thistles under control. ...


Sheep don't like long grass. Goats would do but they would like low
branches as well.


It's the non-grasses that are the real problem for grazing. I don't
know whether goats and donkeys will eat those, in real life rather
than fiction, but none of sheep, horses or even cattle will. Cattle
would do, if the non-grasses were cut down at least a couple of times
a year, but only then.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Jeßus[_17_] 24-09-2016 02:47 AM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 08:23:37 +0100, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:07:46 +1000, Jeßus wrote:


Is the orchard well fenced? 2-4 sheep on 1.5 acres should keep the
grass under control, improve the soil and eventually eliminate most
weeds. They browse a little on the trees but shouldnt cause any real
harm. I do this myself.


Any particular favourite? Apple, Pear, a nice bit of Birch for
breakfast.


I'll browse on pretty much anything!

Jeßus[_17_] 24-09-2016 02:49 AM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 10:19:43 +0100, David Hill
wrote:

On 23/09/2016 02:08, Je?us wrote:
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 08:07:22 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:

On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:04:09 +0200, SJP
wrote:


Hello,

I’ve recently taken on the management of a somewhat overgrown 1.5 acre
orchard and I’m struggling to keep the thick hill-grass, docks, nettles
and thistles under control. I’ve used a mixture of a medium-powered
strimmer and an Austrian scythe, but it’s a good 6-8 day job with
either. Is there something that I can buy that can cut this in a day or
so? I don’t have a tractor, van, fork-lift, or the like, and the access
is poor. As such I need something that is both small enough to fit in a
car-boot and light enough to lift, push, etc. I want a tool that can cut
4-6 months growth of this grass, etc. 2-3 times a year. Does anyone have
some recommendations?

Am I correct in thinking that a power scythe would be to bulky, heavy
and expensive? I was considering a very powerful second-hand Stihl
brushcutter or a wheeled trimmer, but, whilst quicker that what I’m
currently using, would either be a sufficient enough upgrade to warrant
buying one or the other? Ultimately, the machines I’ve ended up
considering are the following:
SHERPA Paddock Master Drum Mower
SHERPA Bravo Rough Cutter

I would be delighted to hear any advice. Many thanks.

Sheep?


That would be my solution.

Sheep don't like long grass.


That is true. You would have to get the grass short initially, but
after that...

Goats would do but they would like low
branches as well.


Yes, I wouldn't use goats in that situation.

Jeßus[_17_] 24-09-2016 02:52 AM

Managing thick grass in overgrown orchard
 
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:58:30 -0000 (UTC), (Nick
Maclaren) wrote:

In article ,
David Hill wrote:

I've recently taken on the management of a somewhat overgrown 1.5 acre
orchard and I'm struggling to keep the thick hill-grass, docks, nettles
and thistles under control. ...

Sheep don't like long grass. Goats would do but they would like low
branches as well.


It's the non-grasses that are the real problem for grazing. I don't
know whether goats and donkeys will eat those, in real life rather
than fiction, but none of sheep, horses or even cattle will. Cattle
would do, if the non-grasses were cut down at least a couple of times
a year, but only then.


I guess what breeds of sheep you have access to is important. I have a
flock of Dorpers and they do like to browse on woody weeds, low
branches, etc. as much as grass itself.


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