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Jim S 10-05-2018 08:33 PM

Fuchsita?
 
As someone who has over a dozen different hardy fuchsias in my garden, pots
and baskets, I was taken abach to find something called a FUCHSITA in a
local garden nursery.
Is this a different plant or a variety?
Take your eye off the ball for a minute.....
--
Jim S

alan_m 10-05-2018 08:36 PM

Fuchsita?
 
On 10/05/2018 20:33, Jim S wrote:
As someone who has over a dozen different hardy fuchsias in my garden, pots
and baskets, I was taken abach to find something called a FUCHSITA in a
local garden nursery.
Is this a different plant or a variety?
Take your eye off the ball for a minute.....


https://www.yougarden.com/item-p-400...chsia-fuchsita

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Dan S. MacAbre[_2_] 11-05-2018 10:27 AM

Fuchsita?
 
Jim S wrote:
As someone who has over a dozen different hardy fuchsias in my garden, pots
and baskets, I was taken abach to find something called a FUCHSITA in a
local garden nursery.
Is this a different plant or a variety?
Take your eye off the ball for a minute.....


'-ita' might be a diminutive, like Rosita (which I guess is 'little
rose') or Conchita (one meaning of which is 'little shell'). By this
(possibly flawed :-)) logic, Fuchsita would mean 'little Fuchsia'.

Derek[_6_] 12-05-2018 04:17 PM

Fuchsita?
 
On Thu, 10 May 2018 20:33:17 +0100, Jim S wrote:

As someone who has over a dozen different hardy fuchsias in my garden, pots
and baskets,



Nice to see someone else growing a good number of Hardies, I have
about 40 different, last few years have gone from soft late summer
cuttings to hardwood cuttings, getting better results, (and darn sight
easier ) was wondering if you did the same?.

Derek

Jim S 12-05-2018 06:22 PM

Fuchsita?
 
On Sat, 12 May 2018 16:17:50 +0100, Derek wrote:

On Thu, 10 May 2018 20:33:17 +0100, Jim S wrote:

As someone who has over a dozen different hardy fuchsias in my garden, pots
and baskets,



Nice to see someone else growing a good number of Hardies, I have
about 40 different, last few years have gone from soft late summer
cuttings to hardwood cuttings, getting better results, (and darn sight
easier ) was wondering if you did the same?.

Derek


Not had the need to take cuttings for years. Usually I just cut down to a
few inches, even in hanging baskets. I'm on Tyneside and cannot remember
the last time I lost one. Indeed the blue/white one can grow to 4ft in a
season. Love Genii for the yellow leaves.
--
Jim S

Bob Hobden[_6_] 13-05-2018 06:16 PM

Fuchsita?
 
On 12 May 2018 16:17, Derek wrote:
On Thu, 10 May 2018 20:33:17 +0100, Jim S wrote:

As someone who has over a dozen different hardy fuchsias in my

garden, pots
and baskets,



Nice to see someone else growing a good number of Hardies, I have
about 40 different, last few years have gone from soft late summer
cuttings to hardwood cuttings, getting better results, (and darn sight
easier ) was wondering if you did the same?.



Some years ago I bought a number at the RHS Wisley Flower Show, not one
survived the first winter which wasn't a bad one. Never tried again
with hardy ones yet a couple of "tender" ones survived last winter OK.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden

David Rance[_3_] 13-05-2018 09:38 PM

Fuchsita?
 
On a matter of pronunciation ...

We pronounce "fuchsia" as "fewsha" even though it was named after a
German botanist, a certain Leonhart Fuchs ("fooks").

So how do people pronounce "fuchsita"?

Personally I love fuchsias and was fascinated by them as a child, but I
haven't had any in my garden for years. Perhaps its time I did something
about it.

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

Jim S 14-05-2018 12:07 AM

Fuchsita?
 
On Sun, 13 May 2018 21:38:03 +0100, David Rance wrote:

On a matter of pronunciation ...

We pronounce "fuchsia" as "fewsha" even though it was named after a
German botanist, a certain Leonhart Fuchs ("fooks").

So how do people pronounce "fuchsita"?

Personally I love fuchsias and was fascinated by them as a child, but I
haven't had any in my garden for years. Perhaps its time I did something
about it.

David


Go on then. It's a gift that goes on giving. There are enough hardys around
that the supermarkets are doing them in packs. True they flower late, but
by then all your half-hardys are going to seed and they run on to the first
frost. I started these in Devon many years ago and dug them up and
re-planted here on the NE coast. I really ought to take some cuttings, but
really cn't be bothered. If it works - don't fix it!
--
Jim S

Derek[_6_] 14-05-2018 08:42 AM

Fuchsita?
 
Indeed the blue/white one can grow to 4ft in a
season. Love Genii for the yellow leaves.


Delta Sarah



Derek[_6_] 14-05-2018 08:45 AM

Fuchsita?
 
On Sun, 13 May 2018 18:16:09 +0100, Bob Hobden
wrote:


Some years ago I bought a number at the RHS Wisley Flower Show, not one
survived the first winter which wasn't a bad one. Never tried again
with hardy ones yet a couple of "tender" ones survived last winter OK.


Need to be planted very deep, half the bottom folige, buried is not
too deep.

I have had a tender one in the gaden now for over ten years, but
heavily mulched every year

Derek[_6_] 14-05-2018 08:47 AM

Fuchsita?
 
On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:05:24 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:

You're lucky. Down in West Cornwall, and AIUI all along the south
coast of the UK, fuchsias are being ravaged by the fuchsia gall mite.
Mine certainly are. I'm just hoping the freeze-up due to the 'beast
from the east' saw a lot of it off.


Could do, last I heard the best thing to do is to cut down to a stub,
, burn infected folige and hope

Nick Maclaren[_5_] 14-05-2018 09:39 AM

Fuchsita?
 
In article ,
Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sun, 13 May 2018 21:38:03 +0100, David Rance
wrote:

On a matter of pronunciation ...

We pronounce "fuchsia" as "fewsha" even though it was named after a
German botanist, a certain Leonhart Fuchs ("fooks").


Yebbut...shouldn't the 'ch' in Fuchs be pronounced as in Achtung, with
that German guttural throaty sound that we don't have in English,
rather than with a hard 'k'? Or do you say Aktung? :-)


Only south of the border. It occurs in loch and similar words.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Jim S 14-05-2018 09:44 AM

Fuchsita?
 
Derek wrote in
:

On Sun, 13 May 2018 18:16:09 +0100, Bob Hobden
wrote:


Some years ago I bought a number at the RHS Wisley Flower Show, not one
survived the first winter which wasn't a bad one. Never tried again
with hardy ones yet a couple of "tender" ones survived last winter OK.


Need to be planted very deep, half the bottom folige, buried is not
too deep.

I have had a tender one in the gaden now for over ten years, but
heavily mulched every year


AND never NEVER let them dry out, especially in tubs, baskets and as
houseplants!

--
Jim S

David Rance[_3_] 14-05-2018 10:13 PM

Fuchsita?
 
On Mon, 14 May 2018 00:07:54 Jim S wrote:

On Sun, 13 May 2018 21:38:03 +0100, David Rance wrote:

On a matter of pronunciation ...

We pronounce "fuchsia" as "fewsha" even though it was named after a
German botanist, a certain Leonhart Fuchs ("fooks").

So how do people pronounce "fuchsita"?

Personally I love fuchsias and was fascinated by them as a child, but I
haven't had any in my garden for years. Perhaps its time I did something
about it.


Go on then. It's a gift that goes on giving. There are enough hardys around
that the supermarkets are doing them in packs. True they flower late, but
by then all your half-hardys are going to seed and they run on to the first
frost. I started these in Devon many years ago and dug them up and
re-planted here on the NE coast. I really ought to take some cuttings, but
really cn't be bothered. If it works - don't fix it!


I last had fuchsias back in the 1970s when I was living near the south
coast. I had a fuchsia with small flowers in my previous house and I
took cuttings to my new house and established a low hedge of them around
a bay window. It looked very pretty. Then in 1980 I moved to Reading and
the cuttings I brought with me died and I haven't had one since!

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

David Rance[_3_] 14-05-2018 10:34 PM

Fuchsita?
 
On Mon, 14 May 2018 07:48:18 Chris Hogg wrote:

On Sun, 13 May 2018 21:38:03 +0100, David Rance
wrote:

On a matter of pronunciation ...

We pronounce "fuchsia" as "fewsha" even though it was named after a
German botanist, a certain Leonhart Fuchs ("fooks").


Yebbut...shouldn't the 'ch' in Fuchs be pronounced as in Achtung, with
that German guttural throaty sound that we don't have in English,
rather than with a hard 'k'? Or do you say Aktung? :-)

The English pronunciation 'fewsha' is a nearer to fuchsia than is
'fooksia'!


No, it depends on the word. Fuchs (fox) is pronounced "fooks" but the
"ch" in "Achtung" is pronounced like the Scottish "loch". To be
pedantic, "fooks" has a shorter "oo" sound than in English.

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

Vir Campestris 14-05-2018 11:13 PM

Fuchsita?
 
On 14/05/2018 22:34, David Rance wrote:

No, it depends on the word. Fuchs (fox) is pronounced "fooks" but the
"ch" in "Achtung" is pronounced like the Scottish "loch". To be
pedantic, "fooks" has a shorter "oo" sound than in English.


If that's correct it must be a regional accent. SWMBO disagrees. That's
with a degree in languages.

OTOH the inhabitants of their capital really do say "ish bin ein
Berliner"... not Ich as I'd have expected...

Andy

David Rance[_3_] 15-05-2018 09:13 AM

Fuchsita?
 
On Mon, 14 May 2018 23:13:54 Vir Campestris wrote:

On 14/05/2018 22:34, David Rance wrote:
No, it depends on the word. Fuchs (fox) is pronounced "fooks" but
the "ch" in "Achtung" is pronounced like the Scottish "loch". To be
pedantic, "fooks" has a shorter "oo" sound than in English.


If that's correct it must be a regional accent.


Not at all. I am talking about "Hochdeutsch" pronunciation.

SWMBO disagrees. That's with a degree in languages.


A degree in languages doesn't necessarily teach one about pronunciation.
I have a degree in music. That doesn't mean that I can play a musical
instrument. I can, of course, but I didn't study that as part of my
degree course.

OTOH the inhabitants of their capital really do say "ish bin ein
Berliner"... not Ich as I'd have expected...


Actually they would say, "Ich bin Berliner."

"Ich bin ein Berliner" was a famous gaff by JFK. ("I am a doughnut!")

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

Vir Campestris 15-05-2018 09:59 PM

Fuchsita?
 
On 15/05/2018 09:13, David Rance wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2018 23:13:54 Vir Campestris wrote:

On 14/05/2018 22:34, David Rance wrote:
Â*No, it depends on the word. Fuchs (fox) is pronounced "fooks" but
the "ch" in "Achtung" is pronounced like the Scottish "loch". To be
pedantic, "fooks" has a shorter "oo" sound than in English.


If that's correct it must be a regional accent.


Not at all. I am talking about "Hochdeutsch" pronunciation.

SWMBO disagrees. That's with a degree in languages.


A degree in languages doesn't necessarily teach one about pronunciation.
I have a degree in music. That doesn't mean that I can play a musical
instrument. I can, of course, but I didn't study that as part of my
degree course.

OTOH the inhabitants of their capital really do say "ish bin ein
Berliner"... not Ich as I'd have expected...


Actually they would say, "Ich bin Berliner."

"Ich bin ein Berliner" was a famous gaff by JFK. ("I am a doughnut!")

.... and _my_ German is no better than JFKs.
I'm out of my depth here though. Even though I read fuchs-eeta and
phew-shia... but googling I found this

https://forvo.com/word/fuchs/#de

Which seems to back you up. Do you have any other examples of similar words?

Andy

David Rance[_3_] 15-05-2018 10:46 PM

Fuchsita?
 
On Tue, 15 May 2018 21:59:04 Vir Campestris wrote:

On 15/05/2018 09:13, David Rance wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2018 23:13:54 Vir Campestris wrote:

On 14/05/2018 22:34, David Rance wrote:
*No, it depends on the word. Fuchs (fox) is pronounced "fooks" but
the "ch" in "Achtung" is pronounced like the Scottish "loch". To be
pedantic, "fooks" has a shorter "oo" sound than in English.

If that's correct it must be a regional accent.

Not at all. I am talking about "Hochdeutsch" pronunciation.

SWMBO disagrees. That's with a degree in languages.

A degree in languages doesn't necessarily teach one about
pronunciation. I have a degree in music. That doesn't mean that I can
play a musical instrument. I can, of course, but I didn't study that
as part of my degree course.

OTOH the inhabitants of their capital really do say "ish bin ein
Berliner"... not Ich as I'd have expected...

Actually they would say, "Ich bin Berliner."
"Ich bin ein Berliner" was a famous gaff by JFK. ("I am a
doughnut!")

... and _my_ German is no better than JFKs.
I'm out of my depth here though. Even though I read fuchs-eeta and
phew-shia... but googling I found this

https://forvo.com/word/fuchs/#de

Which seems to back you up. Do you have any other examples of similar words?


The rule is that, if "ch" is followed by "s" then it is pronounced "ks"
as in "sechs" (six), "wechseln" (to change). Hence a word which all
travellers in German-speaking countries will be familiar with:
"Geldwechsel"

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

Vir Campestris 17-05-2018 11:09 PM

Fuchsita?
 
On 15/05/2018 22:46, David Rance wrote:
The rule is that, if "ch" is followed by "s" then it is pronounced "ks"
as in "sechs" (six), "wechseln" (to change). Hence a word which all
travellers in German-speaking countries will be familiar with:
"Geldwechsel"


Fascinating. She's certain her teacher, who was German, pronounced
wachsen and sechs with the guttural CH.

Andy

Nick Maclaren[_5_] 18-05-2018 09:38 AM

Fuchsita?
 
In article ,
Vir Campestris wrote:
On 15/05/2018 22:46, David Rance wrote:
The rule is that, if "ch" is followed by "s" then it is pronounced "ks"
as in "sechs" (six), "wechseln" (to change). Hence a word which all
travellers in German-speaking countries will be familiar with:
"Geldwechsel"


Fascinating. She's certain her teacher, who was German, pronounced
wachsen and sechs with the guttural CH.


The pronounciation of German (as well as other aspects) varies
considerably with location. Most northern Germans can't understand
those from the alps when the latter are speaking between themselves.
After all, the same thing happens even in England.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Jeff Layman[_2_] 18-05-2018 06:21 PM

Fuchsita?
 
On 18/05/18 09:38, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Vir Campestris wrote:
On 15/05/2018 22:46, David Rance wrote:
The rule is that, if "ch" is followed by "s" then it is pronounced "ks"
as in "sechs" (six), "wechseln" (to change). Hence a word which all
travellers in German-speaking countries will be familiar with:
"Geldwechsel"


Fascinating. She's certain her teacher, who was German, pronounced
wachsen and sechs with the guttural CH.


The pronounciation of German (as well as other aspects) varies
considerably with location. Most northern Germans can't understand
those from the alps when the latter are speaking between themselves.
After all, the same thing happens even in England.


In fact, probably anywhere the "same" language is spoken. Many years ago
I was staying in a small B&B in Vermont to see the Fall colours
(colors?). At the same B&B were a family from Oklahoma, who had a very
deep southern drawl. At breakfast the first day I could barely
understand a word they said; no doubt they had the same problem with me.
When I mentioned to the B&B owner my lack of comprehension to almost
anything they said, he commiserated and said that he also had trouble
understanding them!

--

Jeff

David Rance[_3_] 19-05-2018 09:15 PM

Fuchsita?
 
On Fri, 18 May 2018 08:38:32 Nick Maclaren wrote:

In article ,
Vir Campestris wrote:
On 15/05/2018 22:46, David Rance wrote:
The rule is that, if "ch" is followed by "s" then it is pronounced "ks"
as in "sechs" (six), "wechseln" (to change). Hence a word which all
travellers in German-speaking countries will be familiar with:
"Geldwechsel"


Fascinating. She's certain her teacher, who was German, pronounced
wachsen and sechs with the guttural CH.


The pronounciation of German (as well as other aspects) varies
considerably with location. Most northern Germans can't understand
those from the alps when the latter are speaking between themselves.
After all, the same thing happens even in England.


Well, of course! But in Germany they do have a standard pronunciation,
Hochdeutsch, in the same way that we have Queen's English. Although in
England Queen's English is now very much out of fashion (to the extent
that some regional accents are now preferred) the same is not the case
in Germany.

I have listened to various local German accents, ranging from the Mosel
down to Bavaria and into Austria and Switzerland. In fact I quite like
the Viennese accent but my friends from mid-Germany pour scorn on any
accent that is not Hochdeutsch.

I once made a video of my home town for our twin church in a town near
Frankfurt am Main. We had an Austrian girl in our church at the time and
so I got her to do the commentary. When the folks from Kelkheim heard
her accent they just laughed, which I thought was most unkind.

David

--
David Rance writing from Le Mesnil Villement, Calvados, France


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