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Looking for rough grass/paddock mower
For many years we've used a venerable Kubota T1600H to both mow our
lawns and to cut large areas of rough paddock (brambles, stinging nettles and, hopefully, grass). The T1600H is now beginning to show signs of its age. We have bought a Stiga 'out front' mower for the lawns so I'm wondering what to get for the rougher paddock areas. We have a compact tractor (Iseki 18Hp) as well so the choice probably lies between:- Add on flail mower for the tractor, OK but not so manoeuverable as the Kubota we have now for edges, corners, etc. A new[er] ride on rotary mower, there are some that advertise themselves as specifically for rough mowing (though I've not seen a diesel powered one which we'd prefer) Sonmething else? E.g. a 'walk behind' mower of some sort, but it needs to be powered (i.e. driven wheels) and to have an easy forward/reverse to get along edges of fences, into corners, etc. -- Chris Green · |
Looking for rough grass/paddock mower
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:59:34 +0000, Chris Green wrote:
We have bought a Stiga 'out front' mower for the lawns so I'm wondering what to get for the rougher paddock areas. Why not use the Stiga for that as well? A new[er] ride on rotary mower, there are some that advertise themselves as specifically for rough mowing (though I've not seen a diesel powered one which we'd prefer) Countax do (did?) diesel versions of their bigger mowers - but they are expensive. Nettles shouldn't bother any decent sized ride-on and frequent mowing will also keep the brambles in check. -- Ermin |
Looking for rough grass/paddock mower
On 11/11/2018 11:59, Chris Green wrote:
For many years we've used a venerable Kubota T1600H to both mow our lawns and to cut large areas of rough paddock (brambles, stinging nettles and, hopefully, grass). The T1600H is now beginning to show signs of its age. We have bought a Stiga 'out front' mower for the lawns so I'm wondering what to get for the rougher paddock areas. We have a compact tractor (Iseki 18Hp) as well so the choice probably lies between:- Add on flail mower for the tractor, OK but not so manoeuverable as the Kubota we have now for edges, corners, etc. A new[er] ride on rotary mower, there are some that advertise themselves as specifically for rough mowing (though I've not seen a diesel powered one which we'd prefer) Sonmething else? E.g. a 'walk behind' mower of some sort, but it needs to be powered (i.e. driven wheels) and to have an easy forward/reverse to get along edges of fences, into corners, etc. Since you already have the tractor, why not a topper? Mine came with a PTO topper but that didn't cope so well with our very rough paddocks, I now have a cheap Chinese one with its own honda clone motor. About £1200 iirc for a four footer. Key start. I've given away the tractor but tow this behind an ATV (which actually copes with slopes better). The only thing I slightly miss is the ability to pick up the topper with the three bar linkage for backing right into corners. |
Looking for rough grass/paddock mower
In uk.d-i-y Ermin wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:59:34 +0000, Chris Green wrote: We have bought a Stiga 'out front' mower for the lawns so I'm wondering what to get for the rougher paddock areas. Why not use the Stiga for that as well? Because it's not designed for rough ground or for hacking through tall nettles and such. Our paddocks can get pretty overgrown at times with great patches of thistles, nettles and tough grass. -- Chris Green · |
Looking for rough grass/paddock mower
In uk.d-i-y newshound wrote:
On 11/11/2018 11:59, Chris Green wrote: For many years we've used a venerable Kubota T1600H to both mow our lawns and to cut large areas of rough paddock (brambles, stinging nettles and, hopefully, grass). The T1600H is now beginning to show signs of its age. We have bought a Stiga 'out front' mower for the lawns so I'm wondering what to get for the rougher paddock areas. We have a compact tractor (Iseki 18Hp) as well so the choice probably lies between:- Add on flail mower for the tractor, OK but not so manoeuverable as the Kubota we have now for edges, corners, etc. A new[er] ride on rotary mower, there are some that advertise themselves as specifically for rough mowing (though I've not seen a diesel powered one which we'd prefer) Sonmething else? E.g. a 'walk behind' mower of some sort, but it needs to be powered (i.e. driven wheels) and to have an easy forward/reverse to get along edges of fences, into corners, etc. Since you already have the tractor, why not a topper? Mine came with a PTO topper but that didn't cope so well with our very rough paddocks, I now have a cheap Chinese one with its own honda clone motor. About £1200 iirc for a four footer. Key start. I've given away the tractor but tow this behind an ATV (which actually copes with slopes better). The only thing I slightly miss is the ability to pick up the topper with the three bar linkage for backing right into corners. Yes, that's a possibility, as per my first option. However the tractor is nowhere near as manoeuverable as the Kubota so it's much harder work (or at least takes much longer) going along edges by fences and getting into corners. I do have a topping mower and tend to use it for the 'bulk' mowing of the paddocks, what I'm after is something to mow patches of nettles/thistles/etc. and to wiggle around all the trees in the orchard. -- Chris Green · |
Looking for rough grass/paddock mower
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 16:10:01 +0000, Chris Green wrote:
In uk.d-i-y Ermin wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:59:34 +0000, Chris Green wrote: We have bought a Stiga 'out front' mower for the lawns so I'm wondering what to get for the rougher paddock areas. Why not use the Stiga for that as well? Because it's not designed for rough ground or for hacking through tall nettles and such. Our paddocks can get pretty overgrown at times with great patches of thistles, nettles and tough grass. OK. its obviously a different model of front mount Stiga to the ones I've seen used then. They go through most stuff. -- Ermin |
Looking for rough grass/paddock mower
On 11 Nov 2018 16:13, Chris Green wrote:
In uk.d-i-y newshound wrote: On 11/11/2018 11:59, Chris Green wrote: For many years we've used a venerable Kubota T1600H to both mow our lawns and to cut large areas of rough paddock (brambles, stinging nettles and, hopefully, grass). The T1600H is now beginning to show signs of its age. We have bought a Stiga 'out front' mower for the lawns so I'm wondering what to get for the rougher paddock areas. We have a compact tractor (Iseki 18Hp) as well so the choice probably lies between:- Add on flail mower for the tractor, OK but not so manoeuverable as the Kubota we have now for edges, corners, etc. A new[er] ride on rotary mower, there are some that advertise themselves as specifically for rough mowing (though I've not seen a diesel powered one which we'd prefer) Sonmething else? E.g. a 'walk behind' mower of some sort, but it needs to be powered (i.e. driven wheels) and to have an easy forward/reverse to get along edges of fences, into corners, etc. Since you already have the tractor, why not a topper? Mine came with a PTO topper but that didn't cope so well with our very rough paddocks, I now have a cheap Chinese one with its own honda clone motor. About £1200 iirc for a four footer. Key start. I've given away the tractor but tow this behind an ATV (which actually copes with slopes better). The only thing I slightly miss is the ability to pick up the topper with the three bar linkage for backing right into corners. Yes, that's a possibility, as per my first option. However the tractor is nowhere near as manoeuverable as the Kubota so it's much harder work (or at least takes much longer) going along edges by fences and getting into corners. I do have a topping mower and tend to use it for the 'bulk' mowing of the paddocks, what I'm after is something to mow patches of nettles/thistles/etc. and to wiggle around all the trees in the orchard. Sounds like you need a rear wheel steering mower like I've seen used at Kew and Wisley. They whip around the trees etc. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
Looking for rough grass/paddock mower
Bob Hobden wrote:
Yes, that's a possibility, as per my first option. However the tractor is nowhere near as manoeuverable as the Kubota so it's much harder work (or at least takes much longer) going along edges by fences and getting into corners. I do have a topping mower and tend to use it for the 'bulk' mowing of the paddocks, what I'm after is something to mow patches of nettles/thistles/etc. and to wiggle around all the trees in the orchard. Sounds like you need a rear wheel steering mower like I've seen used at Kew and Wisley. They whip around the trees etc. That would be lovely if there was one designed for rough ground but they're aimed at pretty lawns in the main. -- Chris Green · |
Looking for rough grass/paddock mower
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:19:33 +0000, Chris Green wrote:
Bob Hobden wrote: Yes, that's a possibility, as per my first option. However the tractor is nowhere near as manoeuverable as the Kubota so it's much harder work (or at least takes much longer) going along edges by fences and getting into corners. I do have a topping mower and tend to use it for the 'bulk' mowing of the paddocks, what I'm after is something to mow patches of nettles/thistles/etc. and to wiggle around all the trees in the orchard. Sounds like you need a rear wheel steering mower like I've seen used at Kew and Wisley. They whip around the trees etc. That would be lovely if there was one designed for rough ground but they're aimed at pretty lawns in the main. Look at https://www.deere.co.uk/en/commercial-mowing/ https://www.lawnmowersdirect.co.uk/c...petrol-mowers/ field-and-rough-grass-mowers/ http://www.powercut.co.uk/equipment/used-j/ None are cheap but you are indicating you want 'commercial quality' mowers -- Ermin |
Looking for rough grass/paddock mower
Ermin wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:19:33 +0000, Chris Green wrote: Bob Hobden wrote: Yes, that's a possibility, as per my first option. However the tractor is nowhere near as manoeuverable as the Kubota so it's much harder work (or at least takes much longer) going along edges by fences and getting into corners. I do have a topping mower and tend to use it for the 'bulk' mowing of the paddocks, what I'm after is something to mow patches of nettles/thistles/etc. and to wiggle around all the trees in the orchard. Sounds like you need a rear wheel steering mower like I've seen used at Kew and Wisley. They whip around the trees etc. That would be lovely if there was one designed for rough ground but they're aimed at pretty lawns in the main. Look at They're 'commercial' but not necessarily for rough/tough ground. https://www.deere.co.uk/en/commercial-mowing/ No clue anywhere about whether they can deal with rough ground and weeds etc. https://www.lawnmowersdirect.co.uk/c...-grass-mowers/ Not a single ride-on or out-front mower here. Yes, I've seen this web page before but it's not really what I'm after. http://www.powercut.co.uk/equipment/used-j/ No idea whether it's suited to rough groound again, it *might* be but I doubt it somehow. None are cheap but you are indicating you want 'commercial quality' mowers I want something half way between a commercial lawn (cricket, football, whatever) mower and a farmer's serious undergrowth clearing machine. 'Commercial' doesn't necessarily mean capable of handling non-lawn weeds etc. -- Chris Green · |
Looking for rough grass/paddock mower
On 11/11/2018 16:13, Chris Green wrote:
In uk.d-i-y newshound wrote: On 11/11/2018 11:59, Chris Green wrote: For many years we've used a venerable Kubota T1600H to both mow our lawns and to cut large areas of rough paddock (brambles, stinging nettles and, hopefully, grass). The T1600H is now beginning to show signs of its age. We have bought a Stiga 'out front' mower for the lawns so I'm wondering what to get for the rougher paddock areas. We have a compact tractor (Iseki 18Hp) as well so the choice probably lies between:- Add on flail mower for the tractor, OK but not so manoeuverable as the Kubota we have now for edges, corners, etc. A new[er] ride on rotary mower, there are some that advertise themselves as specifically for rough mowing (though I've not seen a diesel powered one which we'd prefer) Sonmething else? E.g. a 'walk behind' mower of some sort, but it needs to be powered (i.e. driven wheels) and to have an easy forward/reverse to get along edges of fences, into corners, etc. Since you already have the tractor, why not a topper? Mine came with a PTO topper but that didn't cope so well with our very rough paddocks, I now have a cheap Chinese one with its own honda clone motor. About £1200 iirc for a four footer. Key start. I've given away the tractor but tow this behind an ATV (which actually copes with slopes better). The only thing I slightly miss is the ability to pick up the topper with the three bar linkage for backing right into corners. Yes, that's a possibility, as per my first option. However the tractor is nowhere near as manoeuverable as the Kubota so it's much harder work (or at least takes much longer) going along edges by fences and getting into corners. I do have a topping mower and tend to use it for the 'bulk' mowing of the paddocks, what I'm after is something to mow patches of nettles/thistles/etc. and to wiggle around all the trees in the orchard. Perhaps you need a goat :-) |
Looking for rough grass/paddock mower
On 11/11/2018 20:57, newshound wrote:
Perhaps you need a goat :-) Unlikely. You know the difference between a sheep and a goat? A sheep is a grazer, a goat is a browser. Which means a sheep eats the lawn, and a goat eats the roses.... ANdy |
Looking for rough grass/paddock mower
On 11/11/2018 21:57, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 11/11/2018 20:57, newshound wrote: Perhaps you need a goat :-) Unlikely. You know the difference between a sheep and a goat? A sheep is a grazer, a goat is a browser. Which means a sheep eats the lawn, and a goat eats the roses.... ANdy Another difference is a sheeps tail hangs down and a goats tail sticks up. Regarding the cutting problem, I have a 2 wheel tractor Pasquali and atachments including a ride on trailor (worth it's weight in gold). Rotary plough I also have a 115 cm cutterbar. |
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Looking for rough grass/paddock mower
In uk.d-i-y Janet wrote:
In article , says... In uk.d-i-y Ermin wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:59:34 +0000, Chris Green wrote: We have bought a Stiga 'out front' mower for the lawns so I'm wondering what to get for the rougher paddock areas. Why not use the Stiga for that as well? Because it's not designed for rough ground or for hacking through tall nettles and such. Our paddocks can get pretty overgrown at times with great patches of thistles, nettles and tough grass. Have you thought of setting up an electric fence, then putting pigs in to clear the enclosed area? They will eat everything, dig out all roots and eat those too, thoroughly dig and compost the soil, then you could reseed (if you want lawn). We have horses on the land, mixing in some pigs would not go down too well! :-) Horses are notorious for leaving sections ungrazed, hence the need for mowing at intervals. -- Chris Green · |
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