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Trevor Appleton 22-05-2003 08:44 PM

Bishop of Llandaff gone pale
 
I have kept some tubers of dahlias through the winter. Since I have only
ever grown the Bishop (how many others have done likewise?) I expected dark
foliage when it came up, but the leaves are light green. Do they turn darker
later?


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David Hill 22-05-2003 09:44 PM

Bishop of Llandaff gone pale
 
Normally Bishop will be dark from the start
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David Hill
Abacus nurseries
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Sue & Bob Hobden 22-05-2003 10:56 PM

Bishop of Llandaff gone pale
 

"David wrote in message
Normally Bishop will be dark from the start
--


Strange. We have a number of Dahlias and have had for years but this year is
the first time we have the Bishop ( thought I had better join the club) and
much to my surprise the leaves aren't especially dark. Indeed no darker than
some others we have that are green leaved.
Perhaps it's because it's still in the greenhouse and it will darken when
planted outside.

--
Bob

www.pooleygreengrowers.org.uk/ about an Allotment site in
Runnymede fighting for it's existence.



Trevor Appleton 23-05-2003 07:57 AM

Bishop of Llandaff gone pale
 
OK, might need sun to get a tan like the rest of us!

Thanks

Trevor



"Sue & Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"David wrote in message
Normally Bishop will be dark from the start
--


Strange. We have a number of Dahlias and have had for years but this year

is
the first time we have the Bishop ( thought I had better join the club)

and
much to my surprise the leaves aren't especially dark. Indeed no darker

than
some others we have that are green leaved.
Perhaps it's because it's still in the greenhouse and it will darken when
planted outside.

--
Bob

www.pooleygreengrowers.org.uk/ about an Allotment site in
Runnymede fighting for it's existence.




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Sacha 23-05-2003 08:32 AM

Bishop of Llandaff gone pale
 
in article , Trevor Appleton at
wrote on 23/5/03 7:48 am:

OK, might need sun to get a tan like the rest of us!

Thanks

Trevor



"Sue & Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"David wrote in message
Normally Bishop will be dark from the start
--


Strange. We have a number of Dahlias and have had for years but this year

is
the first time we have the Bishop ( thought I had better join the club)

and
much to my surprise the leaves aren't especially dark. Indeed no darker

than
some others we have that are green leaved.
Perhaps it's because it's still in the greenhouse and it will darken when
planted outside.

--
Bob

www.pooleygreengrowers.org.uk/ about an Allotment site in
Runnymede fighting for it's existence.

Our experience of The Bishop is that it comes up bronze and stays bronze.
--

Sacha
(remove the 'x' to email me)


Sue & Bob Hobden 23-05-2003 06:08 PM

Bishop of Llandaff gone pale
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
"David wrote in message
Normally Bishop will be dark from the start
--

Strange. We have a number of Dahlias and have had for years but this

year
is
the first time we have the Bishop ( thought I had better join the club)

and
much to my surprise the leaves aren't especially dark. Indeed no darker

than
some others we have that are green leaved.
Perhaps it's because it's still in the greenhouse and it will darken

when
planted outside.


Our experience of The Bishop is that it comes up bronze and stays bronze.
--


Oh! So maybe we haven't got the Bishop after all. Wonderfull!
--
Bob

www.pooleygreengrowers.org.uk/ about an Allotment site in
Runnymede fighting for it's existence.



Sacha 23-05-2003 09:08 PM

Bishop of Llandaff gone pale
 
in article , Sue & Bob Hobden at
wrote on 23/5/03 6:06 pm:


"Sacha" wrote in message

snip
Our experience of The Bishop is that it comes up bronze and stays bronze.
--


Oh! So maybe we haven't got the Bishop after all. Wonderfull!


Don't despair yet. ;-) Things can vary, I imagine. Ray says it's worth
waiting and seeing what happens!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
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David Hill 23-05-2003 09:59 PM

Bishop of Llandaff gone pale
 
".........much to my surprise the leaves aren't especially dark. Indeed no
darker than some others we have that are green leaved.
Perhaps it's because it's still in the greenhouse and it will darken when
planted outside............"

You could try giving it/them a light feed of Miracle grow, might help to
bring some depth of colour to the plant/s.
Being inside should make no difference, unless possibly you have it at a
high temp, but over the last few weeks that's not very likely, with some a
lower temp. brings out better leaf colour.

Can I ask where you got the plants/tubers from?
If Dutch tubers then there is a chance of a few wrong ones getting into the
batch, They produce them by the 10's of thousands, and keep them trimmed so
that they don't flower, as this would weaken the tubers. With production on
this scale there are always some that are better than others.
When it was first bread by Tresseder in Cardiff, it was propagated only by
cuttings, so the best stock was always selected as stock, now with a lot
being produced by Tissue culture the selection isn't so critical.



Sue & Bob Hobden 23-05-2003 11:45 PM

Bishop of Llandaff gone pale
 

"David wrote in message ...
".........much to my surprise the leaves aren't especially dark. Indeed no
darker than some others we have that are green leaved.
Perhaps it's because it's still in the greenhouse and it will darken when
planted outside............"

You could try giving it/them a light feed of Miracle grow, might help to
bring some depth of colour to the plant/s.
Being inside should make no difference, unless possibly you have it at a
high temp, but over the last few weeks that's not very likely, with some a
lower temp. brings out better leaf colour.

Can I ask where you got the plants/tubers from?
If Dutch tubers then there is a chance of a few wrong ones getting into

the
batch, They produce them by the 10's of thousands, and keep them trimmed

so
that they don't flower, as this would weaken the tubers. With production

on
this scale there are always some that are better than others.
When it was first bread by Tresseder in Cardiff, it was propagated only by
cuttings, so the best stock was always selected as stock, now with a lot
being produced by Tissue culture the selection isn't so critical.


Yes, I realise I should have come to you for it :-) but it was a spur of
the moment purchase as I walked through a local GC. In a plastic packet and
no doubt Dutch grown.
It has been at high temperature in the last few weeks though, germinating
lots of seeds at the moment, allotment and all that.

I'll just have to plant it out now it's hardened off and see what happens.

--
Bob

www.pooleygreengrowers.org.uk/ about an Allotment site in
Runnymede fighting for it's existence.



David Hill 24-05-2003 01:12 AM

Bishop of Llandaff gone pale
 
I'll just have to plant it out now it's hardened off and see what happens.

Don't forget the slug pellets when you plant.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk




Trevor Appleton 24-05-2003 10:01 PM

Bishop of Llandaff gone pale
 
Mine were tubers I saved from last year and I've never had any other dahlia
than BOL!

Trevor





"David Hill" wrote in message
...
".........much to my surprise the leaves aren't especially dark. Indeed no
darker than some others we have that are green leaved.
Perhaps it's because it's still in the greenhouse and it will darken when
planted outside............"

You could try giving it/them a light feed of Miracle grow, might help to
bring some depth of colour to the plant/s.
Being inside should make no difference, unless possibly you have it at a
high temp, but over the last few weeks that's not very likely, with some a
lower temp. brings out better leaf colour.

Can I ask where you got the plants/tubers from?
If Dutch tubers then there is a chance of a few wrong ones getting into

the
batch, They produce them by the 10's of thousands, and keep them trimmed

so
that they don't flower, as this would weaken the tubers. With production

on
this scale there are always some that are better than others.
When it was first bread by Tresseder in Cardiff, it was propagated only by
cuttings, so the best stock was always selected as stock, now with a lot
being produced by Tissue culture the selection isn't so critical.




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