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Hi, 2 quick questions:
Monty Don showed in Gardeners' world that you can use cardboard in the compost heap and that it even help to aerate it. I think it's a greta way of recycling cardboard, but I was wondering if any type would do, i.e. is there any danger of ink toxicity for "glossy" coloured cardboard? A bit O.T. but I always wondered why we are not supposed to put enveloppes in the paper recycling containers. The only reason I can think of is the glue on them, but surely a glossy magazine contains as much as an enveloppe? Many thanks Gogo |
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A bit O.T. but I always wondered why we are not supposed to put enveloppes
in the paper recycling containers. The only reason I can think of is the glue on them, but surely a glossy magazine contains as much as an enveloppe? Many thanks Gogo I'm a bit wary what goes into my compost bin now. There are so many carcinogenic or toxic chemicals used in manufacturing. As the years go by, more and more chemicals are found to be harmful even in trace quantities. You just might find out you are adding poison to the soil - as I did. I used to regularly put waste sawdust into my compost from various jobs involving pressure treated timber, only to find out later that the active ingredient is based upon Arsenic. I don't put ANY man made products into my compost now. -- Drakanthus. (Spam filter: Include the word VB anywhere in the subject line or emails will never reach me.) |
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"Drakanthus" wrote in message ... A bit O.T. but I always wondered why we are not supposed to put enveloppes in the paper recycling containers. The only reason I can think of is the glue on them, but surely a glossy magazine contains as much as an enveloppe? Many thanks Gogo Our council says it's the adhesive - perhaps there are different types. I'm a bit wary what goes into my compost bin now. There are so many carcinogenic or toxic chemicals used in manufacturing. As the years go by, more and more chemicals are found to be harmful even in trace quantities. The trouble is that if you look for almost ANY chemical in almsot ANY item, including food, you'll find it. That leads to banning of things which have always had such traces in them and cause no harm. We can't protect ourselves 100%, wwhy even the air is full of nasties. Mary |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote "Drakanthus" wrote A bit O.T. but I always wondered why we are not supposed to put enveloppes in the paper recycling containers. The only reason I can think of is the glue on them, snip Our council says it's the adhesive - perhaps there are different types. snip It seems odd if envelope adhesives can be used which people lick to stick, but you're not supposed to put them in compost. Sue |
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.... "Mary Fisher" wrote "Drakanthus" wrote A bit O.T. but I always wondered why we are not supposed to put enveloppes in the paper recycling containers. The only reason I can think of is the glue on them, snip Our council says it's the adhesive - perhaps there are different types. snip It seems odd if envelope adhesives can be used which people lick to stick, but you're not supposed to put them in compost. But most envelopes which come through the door are junk mail and have self adhesive gums. Apart from that I'd agree with you 100% - but we're dealing with politicans here ... Mary Sue |
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In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote: Apart from that I'd agree with you 100% - but we're dealing with politicans here ... Make the best use of your politicians - compost them! Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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In article , Nick Maclaren
writes Make the best use of your politicians - compost them! But put them through the shredder first! -- Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs. |
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On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:44:42 +0100, "Drakanthus"
wrote: I'm a bit wary what goes into my compost bin now. There are so many carcinogenic or toxic chemicals used in manufacturing. As the years go by, more and more chemicals are found to be harmful even in trace quantities. You just might find out you are adding poison to the soil - as I did. I used to regularly put waste sawdust into my compost from various jobs involving pressure treated timber, only to find out later that the active ingredient is based upon Arsenic. I don't put ANY man made products into my compost now. Just of a related note. Strictly speaking all cutting of timber should be done before the treatment so if the shavings were from a timber firm then they *in theory* should be clean. The only commercial outlet in the uk for wood shavings is the pet business and a little chipboard. Also, if it was pressure treated it may have been from an organic based treatment rather than CCA (copper chrome arsenic) as CCA`s are generally dipped. I have to agree tho that if your in any doubt about the source of the shavings do NOT put them in. Some good news on the horizon is that CCA is being removed from use comercially as the europeans dont like the arsenic. However, they seem to like using heavy metals instead so untill it all gets nice and organic (Roof truss manufacturers use organic as the heavy metals corrode the plates) then only put shavings that have been in a pet bed on the compost heap. |
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On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 08:04:06 GMT, "gogo"
wrote: Monty Don showed in Gardeners' world that you can use cardboard in the compost heap and that it even help to aerate it. I think it's a greta way of recycling cardboard, but I was wondering if any type would do, i.e. is there any danger of ink toxicity for "glossy" coloured cardboard? A bit O.T. but I always wondered why we are not supposed to put enveloppes in the paper recycling containers. The only reason I can think of is the glue on them, but surely a glossy magazine contains as much as an enveloppe? Our local council are just starting a trial of garden waste for composting AND cardboard. I have bought (!) for 30p each, paper sacks into which I can put any compostable material along with cardboard which they say can include cereal packets, ready meal boxes and brown envelopes. Therafter we can buy 70litre bags of compost for £2.50 Most of my stuff goes to the allotment, but I cut down a shrub today and took it all to the tip!!! Pam in Bristol |
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Pam Moore wrote in
: Our local council are just starting a trial of garden waste for composting AND cardboard. I have bought (!) for 30p each, paper sacks into which I can put any compostable material along with cardboard which they say can include cereal packets, ready meal boxes and brown envelopes. You paid for them?!! Therafter we can buy 70litre bags of compost for £2.50 Most of my stuff goes to the allotment, but I cut down a shrub today and took it all to the tip!!! And yet I can buy 75 litre bags for 2.99 each or 2 for a fiver All from my local garden centre |
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... In article , Mary Fisher wrote: Apart from that I'd agree with you 100% - but we're dealing with politicans here ... Make the best use of your politicians - compost them! I wish ... Wistful Mary Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Drakanthus" wrote in message ... A bit O.T. but I always wondered why we are not supposed to put enveloppes in the paper recycling containers. The only reason I can think of is the glue on them, but surely a glossy magazine contains as much as an enveloppe? Many thanks Gogo Our council says it's the adhesive - perhaps there are different types. My partner was a postman for 15yrs in the uk and tells me that the snails are attracted to the glue used on envelopes, by all accounts its like a drug to them. Postboxes frequently are inhabited by colonies of snails that eat the glue off the envelopes, I imagine that this may be one of the reasons envelopes are not permitted in recycling bins because they'd be attracted to them. Another possible reason that glossy/shiny paper is not wanted in council recycling bins is because it's a much more costly method to remove the china clay from the paper, this clay creates the gloss and is also water repellent and must be removed before pulping. Thats my understanding for what it's worth :) Shan |
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"Drakanthus" wrote in message
... A bit O.T. but I always wondered why we are not supposed to put enveloppes in the paper recycling containers. The only reason I can think of is the glue on them, but surely a glossy magazine contains as much as an enveloppe? Many thanks Gogo I'm a bit wary what goes into my compost bin now. There are so many carcinogenic or toxic chemicals used in manufacturing. As the years go by, more and more chemicals are found to be harmful even in trace quantities. You just might find out you are adding poison to the soil - as I did. I used to regularly put waste sawdust into my compost from various jobs involving pressure treated timber, only to find out later that the active ingredient is based upon Arsenic. I don't put ANY man made products into my compost now. -- Drakanthus. (Spam filter: Include the word VB anywhere in the subject line or emails will never reach me.) But isn't it true to say rubarb leaves are poisonous and Green Potatos contain Oxalyic acid, and various weeds and garden plants contain pretty nasty chemicals within them, Rue etc, these are all usually placed on the compost heap. I confess I do not know how much arsenic garden plants, or veggies might pick up from the soil, or indeed exactly how much arsenic would be in treated timber shavings. I do however tend to think that it's not something I would worry about overly much, simply because the levels are likely to be so low after all the composting, digging, and growing is done that it's probably neglible. You'd probably absorb much more heavy metals and deangerous chemicals from sitting in a traffic jam for 5 minutes than you could get from the garden veggies. Also I grow comfrey, specifically to add to waterbutts and compost heaps, and this is grown because it's roots go down so far that it brings up all sorts of things from the subsoil, at least that's what I'd been told. Also partly the reason why green leafy veggies contain lots of calcium. This is just my opinion of course but then I guess that's partly what this forums for. Anyway, In general I think far too much emphasis is placed of reducing relatively trivial risks when we could be addressing much more serious problems such as road traffic, and heart disease. Sorry rant over, such as it was, and no offence meant to anyone. Duncan |
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"Druss" wrote in message ... "Drakanthus" wrote in message ... A bit O.T. but I always wondered why we are not supposed to put enveloppes in the paper recycling containers. The only reason I can think of is the glue on them, but surely a glossy magazine contains as much as an enveloppe? Many thanks Gogo I'm a bit wary what goes into my compost bin now. There are so many carcinogenic or toxic chemicals used in manufacturing. As the years go by, more and more chemicals are found to be harmful even in trace quantities. You just might find out you are adding poison to the soil - as I did. I used to regularly put waste sawdust into my compost from various jobs involving pressure treated timber, only to find out later that the active ingredient is based upon Arsenic. I don't put ANY man made products into my compost now. -- Drakanthus. (Spam filter: Include the word VB anywhere in the subject line or emails will never reach me.) But isn't it true to say rubarb leaves are poisonous and Green Potatos contain Oxalyic acid, and various weeds and garden plants contain pretty nasty chemicals within them, Rue etc, these are all usually placed on the compost heap. I confess I do not know how much arsenic garden plants, or veggies might pick up from the soil, or indeed exactly how much arsenic would be in treated timber shavings. I do however tend to think that it's not something I would worry about overly much, simply because the levels are likely to be so low after all the composting, digging, and growing is done that it's probably neglible. You'd probably absorb much more heavy metals and deangerous chemicals from sitting in a traffic jam for 5 minutes than you could get from the garden veggies. Also I grow comfrey, specifically to add to waterbutts and compost heaps, and this is grown because it's roots go down so far that it brings up all sorts of things from the subsoil, at least that's what I'd been told. Also partly the reason why green leafy veggies contain lots of calcium. This is just my opinion of course but then I guess that's partly what this forums for. Anyway, In general I think far too much emphasis is placed of reducing relatively trivial risks when we could be addressing much more serious problems such as road traffic, and heart disease. Sorry rant over, such as it was, and no offence meant to anyone. Duncan I couldn't agree more. Mary |
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