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Rachel de Thame and national collections
In article , JennyC
writes "Kay Easton" wrote in message ... Is this TV dumbing down and protecting its viewers from difficult words like 'genus' which they don't understand? It surely can't be Rachel de T herself who doesn't understand the difference? This sort of thing does get me cross! Kay Easton And she obviously does not read URG - she's still wearing the bloody cardigan round the bum......... She's heard that big bums are fashionable and is trying to draw attention to it ;-) -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
Rachel de Thame and national collections
In article 1fw6ng1.i14xsj1od8fpyN%00senetnospamtodayta@macun limited.net
, Jim W writes The danger of common epithets!-) Eg bluebells are not always bluebells;-) Not that the botanical names are reliably stable: half the Lavatera's are now Malvas (and some Malvas may be Lavateras, and one Lavatera may be neither); some Althaeas may be Malvas; and there's a big restructuring of Hibiscus in the offing. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
Rachel de Thame and national collections
"Kay Easton" wrote JennyC writes "Kay Easton" wrote And she obviously does not read URG - she's still wearing the bloody cardigan round the bum......... She's heard that big bums are fashionable and is trying to draw attention to it ;-) Kay Easton Gosh - I shall be fashionable at last :~) Jenny |
Rachel de Thame and national collections
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message ... In article 1fw6ng1.i14xsj1od8fpyN%00senetnospamtodayta@macun limited.net , Jim W writes The danger of common epithets!-) Eg bluebells are not always bluebells;-) Not that the botanical names are reliably stable: half the Lavatera's are now Malvas (and some Malvas may be Lavateras, and one Lavatera may be neither); some Althaeas may be Malvas; and there's a big restructuring of Hibiscus in the offing. I'm glad I grow vegetables! Mary -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
Rachel de Thame and national collections
In article , Stewart Robert Hinsley
writes In article 1fw6ng1.i14xsj1od8fpyN%00senetnospamtodayta@macun limited.net , Jim W writes The danger of common epithets!-) Eg bluebells are not always bluebells;-) Not that the botanical names are reliably stable: half the Lavatera's are now Malvas (and some Malvas may be Lavateras, and one Lavatera may be neither); some Althaeas may be Malvas; and there's a big restructuring of Hibiscus in the offing. That's a result of the fact that the names actually mean something - if your knowledge increases so you realise one member of the tree is actually more closely related elsewhere, you have to change the names to reflect this. You could keep flower names nice and stable if they were just names, and not shorthand for other information. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
Rachel de Thame and national collections
In article , Mary Fisher
writes Not that the botanical names are reliably stable: half the Lavatera's are now Malvas (and some Malvas may be Lavateras, and one Lavatera may be neither); some Althaeas may be Malvas; and there's a big restructuring of Hibiscus in the offing. I'm glad I grow vegetables! You can't escape :-) Tomatoes (Lycopersicon) and tamarillos (Cyphamandra) have been reclassified back in Solanum, and I understand the generic limits in Brassicaceae are unclear. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
Rachel de Thame and national collections
There are more important things in life to get heated up about than
whether Rachel De Thame said 'species' instead of 'type'....or even 'geno-type'. I like her. I think the newly revamped Gardener's World with Monty Don is good. Anyway, he became a hero of mine after I read an article of his about apples and apple trees in one of the colour magazines. He has his heart in it and I believe Rachel De Thame does too. |
Rachel de Thame and national collections
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message ... In article , Mary Fisher writes Not that the botanical names are reliably stable: half the Lavatera's are now Malvas (and some Malvas may be Lavateras, and one Lavatera may be neither); some Althaeas may be Malvas; and there's a big restructuring of Hibiscus in the offing. I'm glad I grow vegetables! You can't escape :-) Tomatoes (Lycopersicon) and tamarillos (Cyphamandra) have been reclassified back in Solanum, and I understand the generic limits in Brassicaceae are unclear. wwwwaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ........... !!!!!!!!! I'll stick to tomatoes (tamarillos???), cabbges, broccoli and sprouts thank you! Mary -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
Rachel de Thame and national collections
"Helen" wrote in message m... There are more important things in life to get heated up about than whether Rachel De Thame said 'species' instead of 'type'....or even 'geno-type'. I like her. I think the newly revamped Gardener's World with Monty Don is good. Anyway, he became a hero of mine after I read an article of his about apples and apple trees in one of the colour magazines. He has his heart in it and I believe Rachel De Thame does too. I'm assuming that this woman is on television - which we don't have. Nevertheless, if she's featuring as an expert she ought to get things right. Entertainment isn't as important as accuracy ... I get cross about GQT when some of the team seem to be more concerned about raising a laugh than transmitting sound information. I agree absolutely with Kay. Mary |
Rachel de Thame and national collections
"Kay wrote in message TV tonight - Rachel de Thame 'a national Collection is a collection of a single *species*' ... then almost in the same breath 'the National collection of Crocus' ... so all crocus are the same species, are they? Is this TV dumbing down and protecting its viewers from difficult words like 'genus' which they don't understand? It surely can't be Rachel de T herself who doesn't understand the difference? This sort of thing does get me cross! -- Accepting that Rachel does know what she is on about, and she's done the course, it may well have been a slip of the tongue. Unfortunately the production crew probably don't have her knowledge to know, and correct it, with a retake. -- Bob www.pooleygreengrowers.org.uk/ about an Allotment site in Runnymede fighting for it's existence. |
Rachel de Thame and national collections
In article , Sue & Bob Hobden
writes "Kay wrote in message TV tonight - Rachel de Thame 'a national Collection is a collection of a single *species*' ... then almost in the same breath 'the National collection of Crocus' ... so all crocus are the same species, are they? Is this TV dumbing down and protecting its viewers from difficult words like 'genus' which they don't understand? It surely can't be Rachel de T herself who doesn't understand the difference? This sort of thing does get me cross! -- Accepting that Rachel does know what she is on about, and she's done the course, it may well have been a slip of the tongue. Unfortunately the production crew probably don't have her knowledge to know, and correct it, with a retake. It was repeated a few times! I suspect it was in the script. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
Rachel de Thame and national collections
I would think that to most people
"I have a collection of species Crocus" "I have a collection of Crocus species" would have the same meaning -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
Rachel de Thame and national collections
In article , David Hill david@abacus
nurseries.freeserve.co.uk writes I would think that to most people "I have a collection of species Crocus" "I have a collection of Crocus species" would have the same meaning Yes - and that is fine. But what was in the programme was the suggestion that Crocus itself was *a* species - in other words 'I have a collection of Crocus species' would be meaningless because there is only one species - Crocus. Anything else were merely varieties. That's what got me cross. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
Rachel de Thame and national collections
"Kay Easton" wrote in message It was repeated a few times! I suspect it was in the script. -- Kay Easton Sloppy editing - but why don't the presenters check their own scripts? Rod |
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