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bnd777 19-07-2003 09:52 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
Seem to have a Fairy ring on my lawn
Large horseshoe shape of lawn that no matter what I do the grass dies
it does get clutches small brown roundheaded toadstools on it from time to
time but is not heavily infested
Have dug out all the turf and soil to 12 inches and replaced with fresh soil
and turf this spring and it looked fine but now its all dead again
same thing for last few years
Have watered with Armillotox
Have checked for chafer grubs

IDEAS ANYONE



Kate Morgan 19-07-2003 10:08 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 

Seem to have a Fairy ring on my lawn


lucky you, stand in the middle and wish :-)

kate

martin 19-07-2003 10:13 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:59:08 +0100, Kate Morgan
wrote:


Seem to have a Fairy ring on my lawn


Is there an old concrete path just below the surface of your lawn or
just a pot of gold at the end of your rainbow?



lucky you, stand in the middle and wish :-)


LOL!

If you have a Nokia phone You could try changing the fairy ring to the
EE theme.........

6 8 7 1 # *
2 3 9 4 #
2 9 0 2 8 8 1 #
7 * * 6 P&H6 9
3 8 P&H3 P&H6
3 * 6 9 * * 7 6 8
7 1 # * 2
3 9 4 # 2 9 0
2 8 8 1 # 7 * *
6 P&H6 9 3 8
P&H1 # * P&H2 3
1 # 9 7 * * 6

Tempo = 125

P&H means to press and hold the key down until a . appears
--
martin

Mary Fisher 19-07-2003 10:27 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 



"bnd777" wrote in message
...
Seem to have a Fairy ring on my lawn
Large horseshoe shape of lawn that no matter what I do the grass dies
it does get clutches small brown roundheaded toadstools on it from time to
time but is not heavily infested


In my opinion this is not a fairy ring. Fairy rings are a brighter green
than the surrounding grass.

Mary



martin 19-07-2003 10:27 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:12:24 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:




"bnd777" wrote in message
...
Seem to have a Fairy ring on my lawn
Large horseshoe shape of lawn that no matter what I do the grass dies
it does get clutches small brown roundheaded toadstools on it from time to
time but is not heavily infested


In my opinion this is not a fairy ring. Fairy rings are a brighter green
than the surrounding grass.


I think there is concrete under the lawn.
--
martin

Stephen Howard 19-07-2003 11:29 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:12:24 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

"bnd777" wrote in message
...
Seem to have a Fairy ring on my lawn
Large horseshoe shape of lawn that no matter what I do the grass dies
it does get clutches small brown roundheaded toadstools on it from time to
time but is not heavily infested


In my opinion this is not a fairy ring. Fairy rings are a brighter green
than the surrounding grass.

That's usually the case, and as far as I can see on my 'lawn' the
rings have no serious effect. However, we're talking the sort of grass
that can trip you up and steal your wallet... not the namby-pamby
stuff that dies back when ( heavens! ) someone steps on it.

I would suggest that the die back is indicative of another problem,
and the fungus has simply moved in to take advantage of the conditions
- which is what fungus does. Being at the scene of the crime it tends
to get labeled a suspect.

You have to admire the tenacity of the fungus - you've nuked it with
Armillotox and still it comes back to taunt you!

The real test would be to see if the ring moves - a genuine fungal
ring will grow each year as the spores spread out radially.

Personally, I blame the aliens.. has anyone noticed the weather
lately.. eh eh?? 'Nuff said!

Regards,



--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

martin 19-07-2003 11:34 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:27:02 +0100, Stephen Howard
wrote:


Personally, I blame the aliens.. has anyone noticed the weather
lately.. eh eh?? 'Nuff said!


The invasion by giant spiders?

Recorded by the Dutch Met Office web cam


http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/Archief/we...0104020940.jpg
http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/Archief/we...0718045318.jpg
http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/Archief/we...0719121056.jpg

and the dreaded seagull crap?
http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/Archief/we...0509171524.jpg

http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/
--
martin

Mary Fisher 19-07-2003 12:32 PM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 

"martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:27:02 +0100, Stephen Howard
wrote:


Personally, I blame the aliens.. has anyone noticed the weather
lately.. eh eh?? 'Nuff said!


The invasion by giant spiders?


A Spider Ring?

Hmm.

Mary

Recorded by the Dutch Met Office web cam


http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/Archief/we...0104020940.jpg
http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/Archief/we...0718045318.jpg
http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/Archief/we...0719121056.jpg

and the dreaded seagull crap?
http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/Archief/we...0509171524.jpg

http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/
--
martin




David Hill 19-07-2003 02:02 PM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
Seem to have a Fairy ring on my lawn


lucky you, stand in the middle and wish :-)

But don't go to sleep in it........

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk




bnd777 19-07-2003 04:23 PM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
I would be tempted to blame aliens, spiders,concrete in fact anything if I
could find out what
having dug down 12 inches and found nothing and since it was a plant nursery
before our house was built 28 yrs ago and there certainly was no concrete
when the earth moving and landscape people did the patio i am beginning to
think that its something leaching up into the top soil although its mighty
odd that its only happened in last 4 or 5 years
Anyone know any experts on this kind of thing I could get to do some tests


"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
t...

"martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:27:02 +0100, Stephen Howard
wrote:


Personally, I blame the aliens.. has anyone noticed the weather
lately.. eh eh?? 'Nuff said!


The invasion by giant spiders?


A Spider Ring?

Hmm.

Mary

Recorded by the Dutch Met Office web cam


http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/Archief/we...0104020940.jpg
http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/Archief/we...0718045318.jpg
http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/Archief/we...0719121056.jpg

and the dreaded seagull crap?
http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/Archief/we...0509171524.jpg

http://www.knmi.nl/webcam/
--
martin






martin 19-07-2003 04:32 PM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:59:34 +0100, "David Hill"
wrote:

Seem to have a Fairy ring on my lawn


lucky you, stand in the middle and wish :-)

But don't go to sleep in it........


............. because the little folk will get you if the spiders from
space don't.
--
martin

martin 19-07-2003 04:33 PM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:12:34 +0000 (UTC), "bnd777"
wrote:

I would be tempted to blame aliens, spiders,concrete in fact anything if I
could find out what
having dug down 12 inches and found nothing and since it was a plant nursery
before our house was built 28 yrs ago and there certainly was no concrete
when the earth moving and landscape people did the patio i am beginning to
think that its something leaching up into the top soil although its mighty
odd that its only happened in last 4 or 5 years
Anyone know any experts on this kind of thing I could get to do some tests


Have you tried putting your post code into www.undermystreet.co.uk if
it still works?
--
martin

Rusty Hinge 19-07-2003 06:42 PM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
The message
from "bnd777" contains these words:

Seem to have a Fairy ring on my lawn
Large horseshoe shape of lawn that no matter what I do the grass dies
it does get clutches small brown roundheaded toadstools on it from time to
time but is not heavily infested
Have dug out all the turf and soil to 12 inches and replaced with fresh soil
and turf this spring and it looked fine but now its all dead again
same thing for last few years
Have watered with Armillotox
Have checked for chafer grubs


Sounds like Merasmius oreades. Don't eat them raw, but they are
excellent cooked in stews, or fried. They dry brilliantly, and on
rehydration are indistinguishable from fresh - apart from the absence of
the bitter almond smell.

Just make sure they *ARE* Merasmius oreades, and keep the area well
watered and thank The Lord for the natural harvest.

If you *MUST* get rid of them, remove about six inches of soil from
outside the ring, as well as the green ring. You *MAY* be lucky, but I
doubt it. Forget about the dead stuff behind - this will soon grow over.
The mycelium grows outwards, and as the old mycelium dies, it nourishes
the grass, causing the darker colour.

--
Rusty http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm
horrid·squeak snailything zetnet·co·uk excange d.p. with p to reply.

bnd777 19-07-2003 09:13 PM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
certainly the outer edges of the ring are green not dark though but the
inside of the ring is dead
What beats me is after i had removed 12 inches deep of turf and soil in the
spring and replaced with new it was growing beautifully ,,,,,,,,then just
suddenly died
in any other position I could probably just dig it up and make a flower bed
but here i simply cant it has to be lawn

"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
...
The message
from "bnd777" contains these words:

Seem to have a Fairy ring on my lawn
Large horseshoe shape of lawn that no matter what I do the grass dies
it does get clutches small brown roundheaded toadstools on it from time

to
time but is not heavily infested
Have dug out all the turf and soil to 12 inches and replaced with fresh

soil
and turf this spring and it looked fine but now its all dead again
same thing for last few years
Have watered with Armillotox
Have checked for chafer grubs


Sounds like Merasmius oreades. Don't eat them raw, but they are
excellent cooked in stews, or fried. They dry brilliantly, and on
rehydration are indistinguishable from fresh - apart from the absence of
the bitter almond smell.

Just make sure they *ARE* Merasmius oreades, and keep the area well
watered and thank The Lord for the natural harvest.

If you *MUST* get rid of them, remove about six inches of soil from
outside the ring, as well as the green ring. You *MAY* be lucky, but I
doubt it. Forget about the dead stuff behind - this will soon grow over.
The mycelium grows outwards, and as the old mycelium dies, it nourishes
the grass, causing the darker colour.

--
Rusty http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm
horrid·squeak snailything zetnet·co·uk excange d.p. with p to

reply.



martin 19-07-2003 09:13 PM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:32:13 +0000 (UTC), "bnd777"
wrote:

certainly the outer edges of the ring are green not dark though but the
inside of the ring is dead
What beats me is after i had removed 12 inches deep of turf and soil in the
spring and replaced with new it was growing beautifully ,,,,,,,,then just
suddenly died
in any other position I could probably just dig it up and make a flower bed
but here i simply cant it has to be lawn


Wimbledon grounds person or what?
--
martin

[email protected] 19-07-2003 09:13 PM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 17:27:12 +0200, martin wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:12:34 +0000 (UTC), "bnd777"
wrote:

I would be tempted to blame aliens, spiders,concrete in fact anything if I
could find out what
having dug down 12 inches and found nothing and since it was a plant nursery
before our house was built 28 yrs ago and there certainly was no concrete
when the earth moving and landscape people did the patio i am beginning to
think that its something leaching up into the top soil although its mighty
odd that its only happened in last 4 or 5 years
Anyone know any experts on this kind of thing I could get to do some tests


Have you tried putting your post code into www.undermystreet.co.uk if
it still works?


http://www.homecheck.co.uk will do something similar.
--
Stuart Baldwin
news\at/boxatrix\dot/co\dot/uk

martin 19-07-2003 09:13 PM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:07:35 +0100, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 17:27:12 +0200, martin wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:12:34 +0000 (UTC), "bnd777"
wrote:

I would be tempted to blame aliens, spiders,concrete in fact anything if I
could find out what
having dug down 12 inches and found nothing and since it was a plant nursery
before our house was built 28 yrs ago and there certainly was no concrete
when the earth moving and landscape people did the patio i am beginning to
think that its something leaching up into the top soil although its mighty
odd that its only happened in last 4 or 5 years
Anyone know any experts on this kind of thing I could get to do some tests


Have you tried putting your post code into
www.undermystreet.co.uk if
it still works?


http://www.homecheck.co.uk will do something similar.


which is just as well as www.undermystreet.co.uk doesn't anymore.
--
martin

Essjay001 20-07-2003 01:42 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
martin wrote:
I think there is concrete under the lawn.


But that shouldn't affect the grass because as he said he has taken out 12
inches of topsoil and replaced it with new

--

Steve R

---
One piece, one button suit, timeless fashion. All made by the same
manufacturer, no designer label, everybody has one.



Essjay001 20-07-2003 01:52 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
bnd777 wrote:
I would be tempted to blame aliens, spiders,concrete in fact anything
if I could find out what
having dug down 12 inches and found nothing and since it was a plant
nursery before our house was built 28 yrs ago and there certainly was
no concrete when the earth moving and landscape people did the patio
i am beginning to think that its something leaching up into the top
soil although its mighty odd that its only happened in last 4 or 5
years Anyone know any experts on this kind of thing I could get to do
some tests

An Uncle of mine had his house bought by an oil company, at the full market
price, on the condition he did not disclose the reason they bought it. Do
you live near Birmingham?
Steve R

---
One piece, one button suit, timeless fashion. All made by the same
manufacturer, no designer label, everybody has one.



shannie 20-07-2003 02:23 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 



"bnd777" wrote in message
...
Seem to have a Fairy ring on my lawn
Large horseshoe shape of lawn that no matter what I do the grass dies
it does get clutches small brown roundheaded toadstools on it from time to
time but is not heavily infested
Have dug out all the turf and soil to 12 inches and replaced with fresh

soil
and turf this spring and it looked fine but now its all dead again
same thing for last few years
Have watered with Armillotox
Have checked for chafer grubs

IDEAS ANYONE



We have a similar problem with our 'lawn' Well, it's not considered lawn
here as it's planted with field grass and there's well over half an acre to
be cut twice a week! However, we have a largish area about three ft sq thats
very like what you describe. The extension was put on the house 30yrs ago
and a separate soak away and septic tank installed. The septic tank deals
with toilet waste and has its own soak away waaaayyyy off down the end of
the garden, however the soakaway for the showers, baths, washing machines
etc is right in the middle of the area thats dying off. (I found this out by
getting plans of the rebuilding, tho this was not easy!) Perhaps if you have
a soakaway it's not working as efficiently as if once was, hence the problem
only arising withing the past 5yrs or so. I was advised to stop using heavy
chemical cleaners and bleaches and this helped but as disinfectant and
bleaches have to be used once in a while it's a problem thats just not going
to go away unless I get a deeper more effecient soakaway put in...not much
help to you, but something to consider looking into?

Shannie



martin 20-07-2003 08:15 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 00:40:13 +0000 (UTC), "Essjay001"
wrote:

martin wrote:
I think there is concrete under the lawn.


But that shouldn't affect the grass because as he said he has taken out 12
inches of topsoil and replaced it with new


It would make the ground dryer above the concrete.
--
martin

bnd777 20-07-2003 09:12 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
Appreciate the idea of a soakaway etc but no all our waste and rainwater
goes out to road
Like I said our garden was originally part of a large plant nursery which
had been defunct for years before we bought the barren plot of land

this has to be either something coming up from very deep in the soil or its
some fungi or insect damage or equivalent


"shannie" wrote in message
...



"bnd777" wrote in message
...
Seem to have a Fairy ring on my lawn
Large horseshoe shape of lawn that no matter what I do the grass dies
it does get clutches small brown roundheaded toadstools on it from time

to
time but is not heavily infested
Have dug out all the turf and soil to 12 inches and replaced with fresh

soil
and turf this spring and it looked fine but now its all dead again
same thing for last few years
Have watered with Armillotox
Have checked for chafer grubs

IDEAS ANYONE



We have a similar problem with our 'lawn' Well, it's not considered lawn
here as it's planted with field grass and there's well over half an acre

to
be cut twice a week! However, we have a largish area about three ft sq

thats
very like what you describe. The extension was put on the house 30yrs ago
and a separate soak away and septic tank installed. The septic tank deals
with toilet waste and has its own soak away waaaayyyy off down the end of
the garden, however the soakaway for the showers, baths, washing machines
etc is right in the middle of the area thats dying off. (I found this out

by
getting plans of the rebuilding, tho this was not easy!) Perhaps if you

have
a soakaway it's not working as efficiently as if once was, hence the

problem
only arising withing the past 5yrs or so. I was advised to stop using

heavy
chemical cleaners and bleaches and this helped but as disinfectant and
bleaches have to be used once in a while it's a problem thats just not

going
to go away unless I get a deeper more effecient soakaway put in...not much
help to you, but something to consider looking into?

Shannie





martin 20-07-2003 09:12 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 07:32:30 +0000 (UTC), "bnd777"
wrote:

Appreciate the idea of a soakaway etc but no all our waste and rainwater
goes out to road
Like I said our garden was originally part of a large plant nursery which
had been defunct for years before we bought the barren plot of land

this has to be either something coming up from very deep in the soil or its
some fungi or insect damage or equivalent


We had a similar problem that was caused by a leaking gas pipe.
--
martin

bnd777 20-07-2003 09:13 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
Appreciate the idea of a soakaway etc but no all our waste and rainwater
goes out to road
Like I said our garden was originally part of a large plant nursery which
had been defunct for years before we bought the barren plot of land

this has to be either something coming up from very deep in the soil or its
some fungi or insect damage or equivalent


"shannie" wrote in message
...



"bnd777" wrote in message
...
Seem to have a Fairy ring on my lawn
Large horseshoe shape of lawn that no matter what I do the grass dies
it does get clutches small brown roundheaded toadstools on it from time

to
time but is not heavily infested
Have dug out all the turf and soil to 12 inches and replaced with fresh

soil
and turf this spring and it looked fine but now its all dead again
same thing for last few years
Have watered with Armillotox
Have checked for chafer grubs

IDEAS ANYONE



We have a similar problem with our 'lawn' Well, it's not considered lawn
here as it's planted with field grass and there's well over half an acre

to
be cut twice a week! However, we have a largish area about three ft sq

thats
very like what you describe. The extension was put on the house 30yrs ago
and a separate soak away and septic tank installed. The septic tank deals
with toilet waste and has its own soak away waaaayyyy off down the end of
the garden, however the soakaway for the showers, baths, washing machines
etc is right in the middle of the area thats dying off. (I found this out

by
getting plans of the rebuilding, tho this was not easy!) Perhaps if you

have
a soakaway it's not working as efficiently as if once was, hence the

problem
only arising withing the past 5yrs or so. I was advised to stop using

heavy
chemical cleaners and bleaches and this helped but as disinfectant and
bleaches have to be used once in a while it's a problem thats just not

going
to go away unless I get a deeper more effecient soakaway put in...not much
help to you, but something to consider looking into?

Shannie





martin 20-07-2003 09:13 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 07:32:30 +0000 (UTC), "bnd777"
wrote:

Appreciate the idea of a soakaway etc but no all our waste and rainwater
goes out to road
Like I said our garden was originally part of a large plant nursery which
had been defunct for years before we bought the barren plot of land

this has to be either something coming up from very deep in the soil or its
some fungi or insect damage or equivalent


We had a similar problem that was caused by a leaking gas pipe.
--
martin

bnd777 20-07-2003 09:13 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
Appreciate the idea of a soakaway etc but no all our waste and rainwater
goes out to road
Like I said our garden was originally part of a large plant nursery which
had been defunct for years before we bought the barren plot of land

this has to be either something coming up from very deep in the soil or its
some fungi or insect damage or equivalent


"shannie" wrote in message
...



"bnd777" wrote in message
...
Seem to have a Fairy ring on my lawn
Large horseshoe shape of lawn that no matter what I do the grass dies
it does get clutches small brown roundheaded toadstools on it from time

to
time but is not heavily infested
Have dug out all the turf and soil to 12 inches and replaced with fresh

soil
and turf this spring and it looked fine but now its all dead again
same thing for last few years
Have watered with Armillotox
Have checked for chafer grubs

IDEAS ANYONE



We have a similar problem with our 'lawn' Well, it's not considered lawn
here as it's planted with field grass and there's well over half an acre

to
be cut twice a week! However, we have a largish area about three ft sq

thats
very like what you describe. The extension was put on the house 30yrs ago
and a separate soak away and septic tank installed. The septic tank deals
with toilet waste and has its own soak away waaaayyyy off down the end of
the garden, however the soakaway for the showers, baths, washing machines
etc is right in the middle of the area thats dying off. (I found this out

by
getting plans of the rebuilding, tho this was not easy!) Perhaps if you

have
a soakaway it's not working as efficiently as if once was, hence the

problem
only arising withing the past 5yrs or so. I was advised to stop using

heavy
chemical cleaners and bleaches and this helped but as disinfectant and
bleaches have to be used once in a while it's a problem thats just not

going
to go away unless I get a deeper more effecient soakaway put in...not much
help to you, but something to consider looking into?

Shannie





martin 20-07-2003 09:13 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 07:32:30 +0000 (UTC), "bnd777"
wrote:

Appreciate the idea of a soakaway etc but no all our waste and rainwater
goes out to road
Like I said our garden was originally part of a large plant nursery which
had been defunct for years before we bought the barren plot of land

this has to be either something coming up from very deep in the soil or its
some fungi or insect damage or equivalent


We had a similar problem that was caused by a leaking gas pipe.
--
martin

Rusty Hinge 20-07-2003 11:33 AM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
The message
from "shannie" contains these words:

We have a similar problem with our 'lawn' Well, it's not considered lawn
here as it's planted with field grass and there's well over half an acre to
be cut twice a week! However, we have a largish area about three ft sq thats
very like what you describe. The extension was put on the house 30yrs ago
and a separate soak away and septic tank installed. The septic tank deals
with toilet waste and has its own soak away waaaayyyy off down the end of
the garden, however the soakaway for the showers, baths, washing machines
etc is right in the middle of the area thats dying off.


It will. Washing ppowders contain borax, which is an efficient
herbicide. I believe it is possible to get washing powders which are
soakaway-friendly, though.

--
Rusty http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm
horrid·squeak snailything zetnet·co·uk excange d.p. with p to reply.

Kate Morgan 20-07-2003 02:42 PM

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snip

There was a thread about Fairy Rings some time ago, some of the men on
the group opted for standing in the middle and wishing for Charlie
Dimmock, is she still a favourite I wonder.
kate

Rusty Hinge 20-07-2003 07:53 PM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
The message
from Kate Morgan contains these words:

snip


There was a thread about Fairy Rings some time ago, some of the men on
the group opted for standing in the middle and wishing for Charlie
Dimmock, is she still a favourite I wonder.


I think someone tried it and foun they'd boobed.

--
Rusty http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm
horrid·squeak snailything zetnet·co·uk excange d.p. with p to reply.

Rusty Hinge 20-07-2003 08:04 PM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
The message
from Kate Morgan contains these words:

snip


There was a thread about Fairy Rings some time ago, some of the men on
the group opted for standing in the middle and wishing for Charlie
Dimmock, is she still a favourite I wonder.


I think someone tried it and foun they'd boobed.

--
Rusty http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm
horrid·squeak snailything zetnet·co·uk excange d.p. with p to reply.

Paul Kelly 20-07-2003 08:38 PM

Fairy Ring .....Help !!!!! please
 
In ,
Rusty Hinge typed:
The message
from Kate Morgan contains these words:

snip


There was a thread about Fairy Rings some time ago, some of the men
on the group opted for standing in the middle and wishing for Charlie
Dimmock, is she still a favourite I wonder.


I think someone tried it and foun they'd boobed.


Reminds me about a joke involving a Magic lantern and a 12inch Piano
player.....

pk




Stephen Howard 21-07-2003 10:22 AM

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On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:48:38 +0100, Rusty Hinge
wrote:



Sounds like Merasmius oreades. Don't eat them raw, but they are
excellent cooked in stews, or fried. They dry brilliantly, and on
rehydration are indistinguishable from fresh - apart from the absence of
the bitter almond smell.


Fairy ring Champignon?
Errr, no it doesn't.
The op mentions small, brown roundheaded toadstools.
M. Oredeades spans about two inches max, and is distinctly buff in
colour with a small umbo ( central dome ). Most people would refer to
it as being white in its early stages.

Just make sure they *ARE* Merasmius oreades, and keep the area well
watered and thank The Lord for the natural harvest.

....and hope to whichever god you believe in that you don't them mixed
up with one of the very similar looking Clitocybes.

Regards,



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Stephen Howard 21-07-2003 10:39 AM

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On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:48:38 +0100, Rusty Hinge
wrote:



Sounds like Merasmius oreades. Don't eat them raw, but they are
excellent cooked in stews, or fried. They dry brilliantly, and on
rehydration are indistinguishable from fresh - apart from the absence of
the bitter almond smell.


Fairy ring Champignon?
Errr, no it doesn't.
The op mentions small, brown roundheaded toadstools.
M. Oredeades spans about two inches max, and is distinctly buff in
colour with a small umbo ( central dome ). Most people would refer to
it as being white in its early stages.

Just make sure they *ARE* Merasmius oreades, and keep the area well
watered and thank The Lord for the natural harvest.

....and hope to whichever god you believe in that you don't them mixed
up with one of the very similar looking Clitocybes.

Regards,



--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

Rusty Hinge 21-07-2003 12:32 PM

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The message
from Stephen Howard contains these words:
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:48:38 +0100, Rusty Hinge
wrote:

Sounds like Merasmius oreades. Don't eat them raw, but they are
excellent cooked in stews, or fried. They dry brilliantly, and on
rehydration are indistinguishable from fresh - apart from the absence of
the bitter almond smell.


Fairy ring Champignon?
Errr, no it doesn't.
The op mentions small, brown roundheaded toadstools.


Which is how M. oreades appears.

M. Oredeades spans about two inches max, and is distinctly buff in
colour with a small umbo ( central dome ). Most people would refer to
it as being white in its early stages.


Buff, brown, whatever, I always give some latitude for colour as a very
high proportion of men are colour blind to some extent.

However, I would never refer to the fruit bodies as white at any stage
of their development above ground.

Just make sure they *ARE* Merasmius oreades, and keep the area well
watered and thank The Lord for the natural harvest.

...and hope to whichever god you believe in that you don't them mixed
up with one of the very similar looking Clitocybes.


Most of which are either harmless or edible, though C. rivulosa is
deadly. Personally though, I can't see how anyone who knows M. oreades
could possibly confuse the two, despite many good handbooks warning of
the possibility. (I've been eating M.oreades since 1950 or thereabouts,
and I think I'm still alive.)

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Stephen Howard 21-07-2003 01:32 PM

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On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:07:55 +0100, Rusty Hinge
wrote:

The message
from Stephen Howard contains these words:



Fairy ring Champignon?
Errr, no it doesn't.
The op mentions small, brown roundheaded toadstools.


Which is how M. oreades appears.


It might appear like that, but the op states this as a recurring
problem - so one would expect that the description applies to the
mature specimen.

M. Oredeades spans about two inches max, and is distinctly buff in
colour with a small umbo ( central dome ). Most people would refer to
it as being white in its early stages.


Buff, brown, whatever, I always give some latitude for colour as a very
high proportion of men are colour blind to some extent.

However, I would never refer to the fruit bodies as white at any stage
of their development above ground.


I've seen them pretty close to cream - typically when a hot spell
follows the arrival of the fruiting bodies - but very few people would
have much trouble distinguishing them from a definitely brown fungus.

I'd bet ten bob they're one of the Hygrocybes, with half a crown on
the side for an Enteloma.

Just make sure they *ARE* Merasmius oreades, and keep the area well
watered and thank The Lord for the natural harvest.

...and hope to whichever god you believe in that you don't them mixed
up with one of the very similar looking Clitocybes.


Most of which are either harmless or edible, though C. rivulosa is
deadly. Personally though, I can't see how anyone who knows M. oreades
could possibly confuse the two, despite many good handbooks warning of
the possibility. (I've been eating M.oreades since 1950 or thereabouts,
and I think I'm still alive.)


Always look for the nipple ;)
Bet few men would have any problems there!

Regards,



--
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www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

Kay Easton 21-07-2003 02:12 PM

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In article , Rusty Hinge
writes
Most of which are either harmless or edible, though C. rivulosa is
deadly. Personally though, I can't see how anyone who knows M. oreades
could possibly confuse the two, despite many good handbooks warning of
the possibility. (I've been eating M.oreades since 1950 or thereabouts,
and I think I'm still alive.)


Well, that's the key, isn't it?
anyone who knows M. oreades

- we're talking here about someone who isn't quite sure whether or not
it is a fairy ring mushroom, and who probably couldn't tell their
Boletus from their Agaricus ;-)

--
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Rusty Hinge 24-07-2003 10:49 PM

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The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:
In article , Rusty Hinge
writes
Most of which are either harmless or edible, though C. rivulosa is
deadly. Personally though, I can't see how anyone who knows M. oreades
could possibly confuse the two, despite many good handbooks warning of
the possibility. (I've been eating M.oreades since 1950 or thereabouts,
and I think I'm still alive.)


Well, that's the key, isn't it?
anyone who knows M. oreades

- we're talking here about someone who isn't quite sure whether or not
it is a fairy ring mushroom, and who probably couldn't tell their
Boletus from their Agaricus ;-)

/\
You will note that / \ up there somewhere I said to make sure they were
M. oreades, and ¯||¯ further, mentioned the availability of
handbooks. My first trial was using Dr. John Ramsbottom's excellent Book
in the New Naturalist series, Mushrooms and Toadstools (which I chose as
a prize at school).

Nowadays I would recommend Roger Phillips' book 'Mushrooms and Other
Fungi of Great Britain and Europe', (Macmillan), ISBN 0 330 26441 9

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