Bindweed and nettles
 

Any hypnotists out there who would like to persuade the population of the UK
that bindweed and nettles are the basic ingredients of the elixir of life so
that together, with your skills and my garden, we can make a fortune?

Bindweed and nettles
 

"Andy Sanson" wrote in message
...
Any hypnotists out there who would like to persuade the population of the
UK
that bindweed and nettles are the basic ingredients of the elixir of life
so
that together, with your skills and my garden, we can make a fortune?


Great idea! I could make a fortune too. Can we include ground elder in the
brew?

Dave.

Bindweed and nettles
 

On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:50:05 +0100, "Dave Henson"
wrote:

Great idea! I could make a fortune too. Can we include ground elder in the
brew?

Ground elder _does_ have medicinal properties (I forget what they are)
which is one reason that there is so much of it about: it was
deliberately planted in physic gardens.
--
Derek Turner

Outlook Express is worth precisely what you paid for it.

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"Derek Turner" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:50:05 +0100, "Dave Henson"
wrote:

Great idea! I could make a fortune too. Can we include ground elder in
the
brew?

Ground elder _does_ have medicinal properties (I forget what they are)
which is one reason that there is so much of it about: it was
deliberately planted in physic gardens.
--
Derek Turner

Great - so I don't even have to share my profits with the hypnotist.

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from "Andy Sanson" contains these words:

Any hypnotists out there who would like to persuade the population of the UK
that bindweed and nettles are the basic ingredients of the elixir of life so
that together, with your skills and my garden, we can make a fortune?

Nettles already are an elixir of life, not least to caterpillars,
which miraculously turn into butterflies. They also make wonderful
fertiliser for your garden, compost activator, treatment for rheumatism;
plus you can eat them (vitamin and iron rich), and weave a very fine
cloth from their fibre.

Bindweed is probably equally useful, we just haven't recognised its
potential yet.

Janet.

Bindweed and nettles
 

Nettles also make excellent wine if you just use the tips and young bits. I
haven't tried bindweed wine. You can probably make jams and jellies from
nettles too but none of this alters the fact that the little ******s sting.
Has anyone else noticed that however careful you are about pulling them up,
the stingy bits always chase after you and ambush you from unexpected
directions?

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Andy Sanson" contains these words:

Any hypnotists out there who would like to persuade the population of
the UK
that bindweed and nettles are the basic ingredients of the elixir of
life so
that together, with your skills and my garden, we can make a fortune?

Nettles already are an elixir of life, not least to caterpillars,
which miraculously turn into butterflies. They also make wonderful
fertiliser for your garden, compost activator, treatment for rheumatism;
plus you can eat them (vitamin and iron rich), and weave a very fine
cloth from their fibre.

Bindweed is probably equally useful, we just haven't recognised its
potential yet.

Janet.

Bindweed and nettles
 

Nettles also make excellent wine if you just use the tips and young bits. I
haven't tried bindweed wine. You can probably make jams and jellies from
nettles too but none of this alters the fact that the little ******s sting.
Has anyone else noticed that however careful you are about pulling them up,
the stingy bits always chase after you and ambush you from unexpected
directions?

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Andy Sanson" contains these words:

Any hypnotists out there who would like to persuade the population of
the UK
that bindweed and nettles are the basic ingredients of the elixir of
life so
that together, with your skills and my garden, we can make a fortune?

Nettles already are an elixir of life, not least to caterpillars,
which miraculously turn into butterflies. They also make wonderful
fertiliser for your garden, compost activator, treatment for rheumatism;
plus you can eat them (vitamin and iron rich), and weave a very fine
cloth from their fibre.

Bindweed is probably equally useful, we just haven't recognised its
potential yet.

Janet.

Bindweed and nettles
 

Nettles also make excellent wine if you just use the tips and young bits. I
haven't tried bindweed wine. You can probably make jams and jellies from
nettles too but none of this alters the fact that the little ******s sting.
Has anyone else noticed that however careful you are about pulling them up,
the stingy bits always chase after you and ambush you from unexpected
directions?

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Andy Sanson" contains these words:

Any hypnotists out there who would like to persuade the population of
the UK
that bindweed and nettles are the basic ingredients of the elixir of
life so
that together, with your skills and my garden, we can make a fortune?

Nettles already are an elixir of life, not least to caterpillars,
which miraculously turn into butterflies. They also make wonderful
fertiliser for your garden, compost activator, treatment for rheumatism;
plus you can eat them (vitamin and iron rich), and weave a very fine
cloth from their fibre.

Bindweed is probably equally useful, we just haven't recognised its
potential yet.

Janet.

Bindweed and nettles
 

Sorry about multiple posting. Server playing games with me. Too early in the
morning. D'oh!

"Andy Sanson" wrote in message
...
Nettles also make excellent wine if you just use the tips and young bits.
I
haven't tried bindweed wine. You can probably make jams and jellies from
nettles too but none of this alters the fact that the little ******s
sting.
Has anyone else noticed that however careful you are about pulling them
up,
the stingy bits always chase after you and ambush you from unexpected
directions?

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Andy Sanson" contains these words:

Any hypnotists out there who would like to persuade the population of
the UK
that bindweed and nettles are the basic ingredients of the elixir of
life so
that together, with your skills and my garden, we can make a fortune?

Nettles already are an elixir of life, not least to caterpillars,
which miraculously turn into butterflies. They also make wonderful
fertiliser for your garden, compost activator, treatment for rheumatism;
plus you can eat them (vitamin and iron rich), and weave a very fine
cloth from their fibre.

Bindweed is probably equally useful, we just haven't recognised its
potential yet.

Janet.

Bindweed and nettles
 

On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:57:36 +0100, "Dave Henson"
wrote:

Ground elder _does_ have medicinal properties (I forget what they are)
which is one reason that there is so much of it about: it was
deliberately planted in physic gardens.
--
Derek Turner

Great - so I don't even have to share my profits with the hypnotist.

Found this on 'Goutweed' aka Ground Elder

quote
---Medicinal Action and Uses---Diuretic and sedative. Can be
successfully employed internally for aches in the joints, gouty and
sciatic pains, and externally as a fomentation for inflamed parts.

The roots and leaves boiled together, applied to the hip, and
occasionally renewed,have a wonderful effect in some cases of
sciatica.

Culpepper says:
'It is not to be supposed Goutwort hath its name for nothing, but upon
experiment to heal the gout and sciatica; as also joint-aches and
other cold griefs. The very bearing of it about one eases the pains of
the gout and defends him that bears it from the disease.'
Gerard tells us that:
'with his roots stamped and laid upon members that are troubled or
vexed with gout, swageth the paine, and taketh away the swelling and
inflammation thereof, which occasioned the Germans to give it the name
of Podagraria, because of his virtues in curing the gout.'
/quote

he

http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/g/goutwe32.html
--
Derek Turner

Outlook Express is worth precisely what you paid for it.

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In article , Janet Baraclough
writes

Bindweed is probably equally useful, we just haven't recognised its
potential yet.

You call it Morning Glory and sell it in Garden Centres.

John
--
John Rouse

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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 06:40:15 +0100, Andy Sanson wrote:

I haven't tried bindweed wine.


And I'm going to suggest that you not even think about trying it.

There's an old-fashioned purgative "scammony" that is (unless my
memory is completely gone) made from the root of a
convolvulaceous plant. Its action is what they used to call
"drastic" -- to be plain, you shit yourself totally empty and
then some as the intestines secrete vast amounts of fluid. Used
to be used in cases of dropsy to get excess fluids out of the
body.

You might say that it produces effects rather like the rice grain
stools of cholera.

In addition, bindweed has a latex as sap, and I have an intuitive
idea that that's generally a sign "not to be consumed
internally". Think of the irritant latex of the greater
celandine, Chelidonium majus, and of all the euphorbias.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

Bindweed and nettles
 

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 06:40:15 +0100, Andy Sanson wrote:

I haven't tried bindweed wine.


And I'm going to suggest that you not even think about trying it.

There's an old-fashioned purgative "scammony" that is (unless my
memory is completely gone) made from the root of a
convolvulaceous plant. Its action is what they used to call
"drastic" -- to be plain, you shit yourself totally empty and
then some as the intestines secrete vast amounts of fluid. Used
to be used in cases of dropsy to get excess fluids out of the
body.

You might say that it produces effects rather like the rice grain
stools of cholera.

In addition, bindweed has a latex as sap, and I have an intuitive
idea that that's generally a sign "not to be consumed
internally". Think of the irritant latex of the greater
celandine, Chelidonium majus, and of all the euphorbias.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

Bindweed and nettles
 

"Rodger Whitlock" wrote in
message ...
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 06:40:15 +0100, Andy Sanson wrote:

I haven't tried bindweed wine.


And I'm going to suggest that you not even think about trying it.

There's an old-fashioned purgative "scammony" that is (unless my
memory is completely gone) made from the root of a
convolvulaceous plant. Its action is what they used to call
"drastic" -- to be plain, you shit yourself totally empty and
then some as the intestines secrete vast amounts of fluid. Used
to be used in cases of dropsy to get excess fluids out of the
body.

You might say that it produces effects rather like the rice grain
stools of cholera.

In addition, bindweed has a latex as sap, and I have an intuitive
idea that that's generally a sign "not to be consumed
internally". Think of the irritant latex of the greater
celandine, Chelidonium majus, and of all the euphorbias.

I have a vague memory to the effect that dried bindweed leaves make a good
substitute for marijuana. I have no idea of how true or otherwise it might
be. [Franz Heymann]

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from John Rouse contains these words:

In article , Janet Baraclough
writes

Bindweed is probably equally useful, we just haven't recognised its
potential yet.

You call it Morning Glory and sell it in Garden Centres.

:-). The very large-flowerd white one that grows in hedgerows, has
really beautiful flowers...we could market that as "climbing white lily;
wonderful in containers, trained up spiral stainless steel supports".

Urg's Meeja Lurkers are all scribbling it down in their notepads...

Janet.

Bindweed and nettles
 

In article , Franz Heymann
writes

I have a vague memory to the effect that dried bindweed leaves make a good
substitute for marijuana. I have no idea of how true or otherwise it might
be. [Franz Heymann]

No, you've got it wrong. You mention (within earshot of the right people
in the pub) that the white roots of bindweed, if dried over several
months and then imbibed, have an effect similar to that of magic
mushrooms. Then wait for the local oiks to come and dig over your
bindweed patch.

John
--
John Rouse

Bindweed and nettles
 

Well, I wasn't being entirely serious but thanks for the info anyway.

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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"Rodger Whitlock" wrote in
message ...
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 06:40:15 +0100, Andy Sanson wrote:

I haven't tried bindweed wine.


And I'm going to suggest that you not even think about trying it.

There's an old-fashioned purgative "scammony" that is (unless my
memory is completely gone) made from the root of a
convolvulaceous plant. Its action is what they used to call
"drastic" -- to be plain, you shit yourself totally empty and
then some as the intestines secrete vast amounts of fluid. Used
to be used in cases of dropsy to get excess fluids out of the
body.

You might say that it produces effects rather like the rice grain
stools of cholera.

In addition, bindweed has a latex as sap, and I have an intuitive
idea that that's generally a sign "not to be consumed
internally". Think of the irritant latex of the greater
celandine, Chelidonium majus, and of all the euphorbias.

I have a vague memory to the effect that dried bindweed leaves make a good
substitute for marijuana. I have no idea of how true or otherwise it
might
be. [Franz Heymann]

Bindweed and nettles
 

"John Rouse" wrote in message
...
In article , Franz Heymann
writes

I have a vague memory to the effect that dried bindweed leaves make a
good
substitute for marijuana. I have no idea of how true or otherwise it
might
be. [Franz Heymann]

No, you've got it wrong. You mention (within earshot of the right people
in the pub) that the white roots of bindweed, if dried over several
months and then imbibed, have an effect similar to that of magic
mushrooms. Then wait for the local oiks to come and dig over your
bindweed patch.

I like it, I like it. [Franz Heymann]

John
--
John Rouse

Bindweed and nettles
 

The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

I like it, I like it. [Franz Heymann]

Er, Franz, could you do a little research about how to post on usenet
please? www.google has some useful tips.

If posts are well edited, threads are easier for everyone else to
follow, and also there's no confusion about who said what, so you won't
need to put your name at the end of each comment.

Janet

Bindweed and nettles
 

John Rouse wrote in message ...
In article , Franz Heymann
writes

I have a vague memory to the effect that dried bindweed leaves make a good
substitute for marijuana. I have no idea of how true or otherwise it might
be. [Franz Heymann]

No, you've got it wrong. You mention (within earshot of the right people
in the pub) that the white roots of bindweed, if dried over several
months and then imbibed, have an effect similar to that of magic
mushrooms. Then wait for the local oiks to come and dig over your
bindweed patch.

John

The genuine effect which I and others have observed is that after
you've spent all day digging it out, whenever you close your eyes you
can see those horrible straggly white roots in front of you.

Chris

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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:

I like it, I like it. [Franz Heymann]

Er, Franz, could you do a little research about how to post on usenet
please? www.google has some useful tips.

If posts are well edited, threads are easier for everyone else to
follow, and also there's no confusion about who said what, so you won't
need to put your name at the end of each comment.

Hello Janet. Thank you for the advice. I don't propose to follow it, as I
see nothing wrong in my style.
By the way, I notice that you, too, add your name to your contributions.
The only difference seems to be that I enclose mine in square brackets. If
readers find that annoying, I will gladly cease using them.

I am fully aware of the usefulness of the attribution marking system. I
only wish that other folk would recognise it too, and cease their infernal
top postings, which lay hell out of the proper threading.

The only reason I use the style which I have adopted is that other readers
confuse the threads with their top posting.

[Franz Heymann]


Janet

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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:

I like it, I like it. [Franz Heymann]

Er, Franz, could you do a little research about how to post on usenet
please? www.google has some useful tips.

If posts are well edited, threads are easier for everyone else to
follow, and also there's no confusion about who said what, so you won't
need to put your name at the end of each comment.

Hello Janet. Thank you for the advice. I don't propose to follow it, as I
see nothing wrong in my style.
By the way, I notice that you, too, add your name to your contributions.
The only difference seems to be that I enclose mine in square brackets. If
readers find that annoying, I will gladly cease using them.

I am fully aware of the usefulness of the attribution marking system. I
only wish that other folk would recognise it too, and cease their infernal
top postings, which lay hell out of the proper threading.

The only reason I use the style which I have adopted is that other readers
confuse the threads with their top posting.

[Franz Heymann]


Janet

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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:


"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...

Er, Franz, could you do a little research about how to post on usenet
please? www.google has some useful tips.

If posts are well edited, threads are easier for everyone else to
follow, and also there's no confusion about who said what, so you won't
need to put your name at the end of each comment.

Hello Janet. Thank you for the advice.
I don't propose to follow it, as I
see nothing wrong in my style.

Suit yourself. Pointless requoting of entire posts can be such a
turn-off, many people just won't bother to read or reply.

By the way, I notice that you, too, add your name to your contributions.
The only difference seems to be that I enclose mine in square brackets.

I follow standard practice and put my name once only, after the end of
my post; not after each inserted comment as you were doing.

Janet.

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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:


"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...

Er, Franz, could you do a little research about how to post on usenet
please? www.google has some useful tips.

If posts are well edited, threads are easier for everyone else to
follow, and also there's no confusion about who said what, so you
won't
need to put your name at the end of each comment.

Hello Janet. Thank you for the advice.
I don't propose to follow it, as I
see nothing wrong in my style.

Suit yourself. Pointless requoting of entire posts can be such a
turn-off, many people just won't bother to read or reply.

That does not bother me at all.
I used to snip quite hard in order to limit the total length of the
conversation, but I was slated more than once for snipping context. I might
possibly, justifiably, now be erring in the other direction.


By the way, I notice that you, too, add your name to your contributions.
The only difference seems to be that I enclose mine in square brackets.

I follow standard practice and put my name once only, after the end of
my post; not after each inserted comment as you were doing.

Please provide evidence to the effect that I signed any particular
contribution once. If I did so, it would have been wrong and I will
assuredly apologise.

I have looked at this thread, where I presume you thought there was an
offending unnecessary signature. I cannot find it.

[Franz Heymann]

Janet.

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In article , Franz Heymann notfranz.
writes

I have looked at this thread, where I presume you thought there was an
offending unnecessary signature. I cannot find it.

Do you do any camping Franz?
If so, does the tent always stay up?
If not, Janet may be able to advise.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

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"Alan Gould" wrote in message
...
In article , Franz Heymann notfranz.
writes

I have looked at this thread, where I presume you thought there was an
offending unnecessary signature. I cannot find it.

Do you do any camping Franz?

I used to before I became too ancient.

If so, does the tent always stay up?

Much of my camping was done in South Africa, where a tent is unnecessary.
In England and Europe, I needed a tent which stayed up about 98% of the
time.

If not, Janet may be able to advise.

So I gather.

[Franz Heymann]

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"Alan Gould" wrote in message
...
In article , Franz Heymann notfranz.
writes

I have looked at this thread, where I presume you thought there was an
offending unnecessary signature. I cannot find it.

Do you do any camping Franz?

I used to before I became too ancient.

If so, does the tent always stay up?

Much of my camping was done in South Africa, where a tent is unnecessary.
In England and Europe, I needed a tent which stayed up about 98% of the
time.

If not, Janet may be able to advise.

So I gather.

[Franz Heymann]