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This is only a test..........
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 23:09:41 +0100, "David Hill"
wrote: you get 5 out of 5 Who gets 5 out of 5? -- Stuart Baldwin news\at/boxatrix\dot/co\dot/uk |
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R R wrote:
This is only a test.......... Remo Rosati, author DIVINE INTERVENTION Sorry, Remo. You fail. Over 400 groups with "test" in their names on a typical newsfeed, and you managed to crosspost into 5 groups that don't even have a "t", let along "test" in their names. Say... Aren't you the guy who tried making an advertisement for a romance novel appear to be an on-topic post by saying something insipid that could have been on-topic if it were in the right context? You failed then, too. Usenet was not invented for you to make these posts any more than the telephone poles was invented to hold your "Loose 40 Pounds, Ask Me How..." signs. Sorry. I don't usually respond to trolls like RR, but I'm just in that kind of mood today. -- Warren H. ========== Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife. Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants to go outside now. |
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"Warren" wrote Sorry. I don't usually respond to trolls like RR, but I'm just in that kind of mood today. Warren H. Funny isn't it how you can ignore something for ages and ages then suddenly can't NOT anymore :~)) It's a bit the same with pruning..............you think : "That plant/shrub/tree is a bit out of control but I can ignore it....." Then suddenly one morning you think "NO, I MUST prune it now !" Jenny (back OT) |
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from "JennyC" contains these words: "Warren" wrote Sorry. I don't usually respond to trolls like RR, but I'm just in that kind of mood today. Warren H. Funny isn't it how you can ignore something for ages and ages then suddenly can't NOT anymore :~)) It's a bit the same with pruning..............you think : "That plant/shrub/tree is a bit out of control but I can ignore it....." Then suddenly one morning you think "NO, I MUST prune it now !" Hum. Pruning spammers and trolls? On which parts shall we begin? -- Rusty This space scribbled in in case someone nicks it before I find a decent sig. |
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"Rusty Hinge" wrote . contains these words: Hum. Pruning spammers and trolls? On which parts shall we begin? Rusty Oh certainly a flame thrower on the trolls methinks :~) Jenny |
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Ok - PMFBS - but what is a troll?????
Heather "Warren" wrote in message news:0TWXa.72936$Ho3.10624@sccrnsc03... R R wrote: This is only a test.......... Remo Rosati, author DIVINE INTERVENTION Sorry, Remo. You fail. Over 400 groups with "test" in their names on a typical newsfeed, and you managed to crosspost into 5 groups that don't even have a "t", let along "test" in their names. Say... Aren't you the guy who tried making an advertisement for a romance novel appear to be an on-topic post by saying something insipid that could have been on-topic if it were in the right context? You failed then, too. Usenet was not invented for you to make these posts any more than the telephone poles was invented to hold your "Loose 40 Pounds, Ask Me How..." signs. Sorry. I don't usually respond to trolls like RR, but I'm just in that kind of mood today. -- Warren H. ========== Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife. Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants to go outside now. |
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Heather wrote:
Ok - PMFBS - but what is a troll????? A troll only posts to annoy/argue and in general be a pain in the bum. You should not respond to as troll because he/she is fed by your replies, but, often the temptation is to great to resist Someone here will tell you the technicalities but that it in "simple" Now, PMFBS? Steve R -- "Latest gear:- One piece one button suit extremely comfortable, perfect for Relaxation, Sports, Hiking, Swimming, a must have" OOPS sorry you have one!!! |
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Heather wrote:
what is a troll????? A troll is someone who posts something outrageous just to watch people get riled-up. Sometimes a troll will do a little flaming (attacking the person, not the ideas) just to watch everyone else start to get personality issues and the real issue confused to the point that threads will go down several layers with no real substance. Trolls cast a wide net, and try to upset as many people as possible. "Don't feed the trolls," essentially means you should ignore the troll, and not get caught in his net. The origin is the trolling that a fisherman does. Essentially we're talking about casting a wide net, and seeing what we can catch. Of course it's also fun to picture the troll as a evil little elf. -- Warren H. ========== Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife. Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants to go outside now. |
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Are gnomes related to trolls?
Warren wrote in message news:tigYa.83134$o%2.37959@sccrnsc02... Heather wrote: what is a troll????? A troll is someone who posts something outrageous just to watch people get riled-up. Sometimes a troll will do a little flaming (attacking the person, not the ideas) just to watch everyone else start to get personality issues and the real issue confused to the point that threads will go down several layers with no real substance. Trolls cast a wide net, and try to upset as many people as possible. "Don't feed the trolls," essentially means you should ignore the troll, and not get caught in his net. The origin is the trolling that a fisherman does. Essentially we're talking about casting a wide net, and seeing what we can catch. Of course it's also fun to picture the troll as a evil little elf. -- Warren H. ========== Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife. Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants to go outside now. |
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 02:35:15 +0100
"anne" wrote: Are gnomes related to trolls? No, GNOME is a desktop program for Linux. ;-] Cybe R. Wizard -- Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P. Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P. "Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y. Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L |
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"anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] Warren wrote in message news:tigYa.83134$o%2.37959@sccrnsc02... Heather wrote: what is a troll????? A troll is someone who posts something outrageous just to watch people get riled-up. Sometimes a troll will do a little flaming (attacking the person, not the ideas) just to watch everyone else start to get personality issues and the real issue confused to the point that threads will go down several layers with no real substance. Trolls cast a wide net, and try to upset as many people as possible. "Don't feed the trolls," essentially means you should ignore the troll, and not get caught in his net. The origin is the trolling that a fisherman does. Essentially we're talking about casting a wide net, and seeing what we can catch. Of course it's also fun to picture the troll as a evil little elf. -- Warren H. ========== Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife. Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants to go outside now. |
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] For heavens sake give it a rest. Do you know how boring you are being. Oh never mind *PLONK* |
Gnomes are small chaps that spend most of their days in the garden: fishing, shifting wheelbarrows of manure, but always smiling. Now and again they escort students on 'round the world trips, having their photos taken in spectacular locations and then the photo being sent back to their guardians.
Some of you may know someone that has inadvertantly adopted a gnome spirit. This is by no means a bad thing, though you should avoid adopting the less benevolant spirits, bad demons, trolls, sprites, orcs... Elves are nice. Sorry, what was this thread about again? |
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from "anne" contains these words: Are gnomes related to trolls? Good heavens no. Gnomes are much closer to the pixie than the Troll. The troll is a subspecies of Giant that nature made very ugly which annoyed them to the point of nastiness. -- email farmer chris on Please don`t use as it`s a spam haven. |
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Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] [snip] Sorry Franz my mistake, I have started to bottom post recently but forgot in this particular instance. By the way, do you realise that you cross posted your reply to no less than seven newsgroups? Tut tut. |
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"Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] For heavens sake give it a rest. Do you know how boring you are being. Not nearly as boring as seeing continued top posting. If you think it boring to remind others of good manners, then so be it. Oh never mind *PLONK* I bet you did not plonk me. [Franz Heymann] |
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"anne" wrote in message ... Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] [snip] Sorry Franz my mistake, You are forgiven. My memory is even ropier than yours. I have started to bottom post recently but forgot in this particular instance. By the way, do you realise that you cross posted your reply to no less than seven newsgroups? Tut tut. I promise you that I did nothing to cause that top posting. If you look at the birth of the thread, you will notice that it was the initiator, RR, who did it. Most of the subsequent correspondents like me, and, of course you as well (twice on 07/08, tut,tut) just continued without looking at the crossposting list. The trouble with *not* following on with crossposting after an initially crossposted note is that you don't know which of the ng's the oribinator actually reads. As sure as I am sitting here, he/she does *not* read all the ng's to which he/she has crossposted. However, I agree entirely with you that it is a lousy habit. [Franz Heymann] |
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"anne" wrote in message ... Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] [snip] Sorry Franz my mistake, You are forgiven. My memory is even ropier than yours. I have started to bottom post recently but forgot in this particular instance. By the way, do you realise that you cross posted your reply to no less than seven newsgroups? Tut tut. I promise you that I did nothing to cause that top posting. If you look at the birth of the thread, you will notice that it was the initiator, RR, who did it. Most of the subsequent correspondents like me, and, of course you as well (twice on 07/08, tut,tut) just continued without looking at the crossposting list. The trouble with *not* following on with crossposting after an initially crossposted note is that you don't know which of the ng's the oribinator actually reads. As sure as I am sitting here, he/she does *not* read all the ng's to which he/she has crossposted. However, I agree entirely with you that it is a lousy habit. [Franz Heymann] |
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:12:22 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote: "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] For heavens sake give it a rest. Do you know how boring you are being. Oh never mind *PLONK* Now wasn't that fun? Frank vented, you vented, and then you got to advertize loudly that you have "plonked" him. I think you should thank Frank. Let me guess ... *PLONK* :-) |
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Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] [snip] Sorry Franz my mistake, You are forgiven. My memory is even ropier than yours. Excellent, we'll be shaking hands next. I have started to bottom post recently but forgot in this particular instance. By the way, do you realise that you cross posted your reply to no less than seven newsgroups? Tut tut. I promise you that I did nothing to cause that top posting. If you look at the birth of the thread, you will notice that it was the initiator, RR, who did it. Most of the subsequent correspondents like me, and, of course you as well (twice on 07/08, tut,tut) just continued without looking at the crossposting list. The trouble with *not* following on with crossposting after an initially crossposted note is that you don't know which of the ng's the oribinator actually reads. As sure as I am sitting here, he/she does *not* read all the ng's to which he/she has crossposted. However, I agree entirely with you that it is a lousy habit. [Franz Heymann] Yes, I'm guilty again I'm afraid re "(twice on 07/08, tut,tut)" and to be honest I would have continued cross posting, but I didn't because I wanted to point out that you had committed a terrible sin and I would have looked silly if I had committed the same sin in my post that was pointing this out. I agree that not cross posting after a cross post could lead to people in the other newsgroups missing out, but in this case I'm here and you're here and you made your complaint to me only. Therefore, I thought your cross posting wasn't necessary and it was fun pointing this out. Hope this makes sense :-) |
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Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] For heavens sake give it a rest. Do you know how boring you are being. Not nearly as boring as seeing continued top posting. If you think it boring to remind others of good manners, then so be it. Oh never mind *PLONK* I bet you did not plonk me. [Franz Heymann] Perhaps she's gone for a drink? |
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"Shiva" wrote in message s.com... On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:12:22 +0100, "Ophelia" wrote: "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] For heavens sake give it a rest. Do you know how boring you are being. Oh never mind *PLONK* [snip] Now wasn't that fun? Frank vented, you vented, and then you got to advertize loudly that you have "plonked" him. I think you should thank Frank. Who is this Frank of which you speak? [Franz Heymann] |
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"Shiva" wrote in message s.com... On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:12:22 +0100, "Ophelia" wrote: "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] For heavens sake give it a rest. Do you know how boring you are being. Oh never mind *PLONK* Now wasn't that fun? Frank vented, you vented, and then you got to advertize loudly that you have "plonked" him. I think you should thank Frank. Let me guess ... *PLONK* :-) Gosh what fun :D *PLONK* |
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 16:46:20 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote: "Shiva" wrote in message ws.com... On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:12:22 +0100, "Ophelia" wrote: "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] For heavens sake give it a rest. Do you know how boring you are being. Oh never mind *PLONK* [snip] Now wasn't that fun? Frank vented, you vented, and then you got to advertize loudly that you have "plonked" him. I think you should thank Frank. Who is this Frank of which you speak? [Franz Heymann] Sorry Franz! I failed speedreading but I just keep *trying.* |
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"anne" wrote in message ... Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] For heavens sake give it a rest. Do you know how boring you are being. Not nearly as boring as seeing continued top posting. If you think it boring to remind others of good manners, then so be it. Oh never mind *PLONK* I bet you did not plonk me. [Franz Heymann] Perhaps she's gone for a drink? Grin |
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"Shiva" wrote in message s.com... On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 16:46:20 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote: "Shiva" wrote in message ws.com... On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:12:22 +0100, "Ophelia" wrote: "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] For heavens sake give it a rest. Do you know how boring you are being. Oh never mind *PLONK* [snip] Now wasn't that fun? Frank vented, you vented, and then you got to advertize loudly that you have "plonked" him. I think you should thank Frank. Who is this Frank of which you speak? [Franz Heymann] Sorry Franz! I failed speedreading but I just keep *trying.* LOL very! |
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"Shiva" wrote in message s.com... On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 16:46:20 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote: "Shiva" wrote in message ws.com... On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:12:22 +0100, "Ophelia" wrote: "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] For heavens sake give it a rest. Do you know how boring you are being. Oh never mind *PLONK* [snip] Now wasn't that fun? Frank vented, you vented, and then you got to advertize loudly that you have "plonked" him. I think you should thank Frank. Who is this Frank of which you speak? [Franz Heymann] Sorry Franz! I failed speedreading but I just keep *trying.* No need to be sorry. :-)) [Franz Heymann] |
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"anne" wrote in message ... Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] [snip] Sorry Franz my mistake, You are forgiven. My memory is even ropier than yours. Excellent, we'll be shaking hands next. I have started to bottom post recently but forgot in this particular instance. By the way, do you realise that you cross posted your reply to no less than seven newsgroups? Tut tut. I promise you that I did nothing to cause that top posting. If you look at the birth of the thread, you will notice that it was the initiator, RR, who did it. Most of the subsequent correspondents like me, and, of course you as well (twice on 07/08, tut,tut) just continued without looking at the crossposting list. The trouble with *not* following on with crossposting after an initially crossposted note is that you don't know which of the ng's the oribinator actually reads. As sure as I am sitting here, he/she does *not* read all the ng's to which he/she has crossposted. However, I agree entirely with you that it is a lousy habit. [Franz Heymann] Yes, I'm guilty again I'm afraid re "(twice on 07/08, tut,tut)" and to be honest I would have continued cross posting, but I didn't because I wanted to point out that you had committed a terrible sin and I would have looked silly if I had committed the same sin in my post that was pointing this out. I agree that not cross posting after a cross post could lead to people in the other newsgroups missing out, but in this case I'm here and you're here and you made your complaint to me only. Therefore, I thought your cross posting wasn't necessary and it was fun pointing this out. Hope this makes sense :-) Not yet, but it will do so after I have drunk a small whisky to your health. Here goes. {;-)) [Franz Heymann] |
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"anne" wrote in message ... Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] [snip] Sorry Franz my mistake, You are forgiven. My memory is even ropier than yours. Excellent, we'll be shaking hands next. I have started to bottom post recently but forgot in this particular instance. By the way, do you realise that you cross posted your reply to no less than seven newsgroups? Tut tut. I promise you that I did nothing to cause that top posting. If you look at the birth of the thread, you will notice that it was the initiator, RR, who did it. Most of the subsequent correspondents like me, and, of course you as well (twice on 07/08, tut,tut) just continued without looking at the crossposting list. The trouble with *not* following on with crossposting after an initially crossposted note is that you don't know which of the ng's the oribinator actually reads. As sure as I am sitting here, he/she does *not* read all the ng's to which he/she has crossposted. However, I agree entirely with you that it is a lousy habit. [Franz Heymann] Yes, I'm guilty again I'm afraid re "(twice on 07/08, tut,tut)" and to be honest I would have continued cross posting, but I didn't because I wanted to point out that you had committed a terrible sin and I would have looked silly if I had committed the same sin in my post that was pointing this out. I agree that not cross posting after a cross post could lead to people in the other newsgroups missing out, but in this case I'm here and you're here and you made your complaint to me only. Therefore, I thought your cross posting wasn't necessary and it was fun pointing this out. Hope this makes sense :-) Not yet, but it will do so after I have drunk a small whisky to your health. Here goes. {;-)) [Franz Heymann] |
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In response to Chris Norton's question " Are gnomes related to trolls?"
Anne wrote "No, but top-posters are" Regards A Troll. "anne" wrote in message ... Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. |
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:-)
A Troll.............. and proud of it wrote in message ... In response to Chris Norton's question " Are gnomes related to trolls?" Anne wrote "No, but top-posters are" Regards A Troll. "anne" wrote in message ... Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. |
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David Hill wrote in message ... This sort of reply is a pain.:- "anne" wrote in message ... Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Franz Heymann wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] [snip] Sorry Franz my mistake, You are forgiven. My memory is even ropier than yours. Excellent, we'll be shaking hands next. I have started to bottom post recently but forgot in this particular instance. By the way, do you realise that you cross posted your reply to no less than seven newsgroups? Tut tut. I promise you that I did nothing to cause that top posting. If you look at the birth of the thread, you will notice that it was the initiator, RR, who did it. Most of the subsequent correspondents like me, and, of course you as well (twice on 07/08, tut,tut) just continued without looking at the crossposting list. The trouble with *not* following on with crossposting after an initially crossposted note is that you don't know which of the ng's the oribinator actually reads. As sure as I am sitting here, he/she does *not* read all the ng's to which he/she has crossposted. However, I agree entirely with you that it is a lousy habit. [Franz Heymann] Yes, I'm guilty again I'm afraid re "(twice on 07/08, tut,tut)" and to be honest I would have continued cross posting, but I didn't because I wanted to point out that you had committed a terrible sin and I would have looked silly if I had committed the same sin in my post that was pointing this out. I agree that not cross posting after a cross post could lead to people in the other newsgroups missing out, but in this case I'm here and you're here and you made your complaint to me only. Therefore, I thought your cross posting wasn't necessary and it was fun pointing this out. Hope this makes sense :-) Not yet, but it will do so after I have drunk a small whisky to your health. Here goes. {;-)) A Hell of a lot of repitition and then .................????????? Why cant people Edit.????????? Dave, don't spoil it me and Franz were just getting on. Dare I mention your top posting Dave? No OK. -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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Does anyone else besides me think that Warren is the next unibomber in the making?
"Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Shiva" wrote in message s.com... On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:12:22 +0100, "Ophelia" wrote: "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "anne" wrote in message ... Are gnomes related to trolls? No, but top-posters are. [Franz Heymann] For heavens sake give it a rest. Do you know how boring you are being. Oh never mind *PLONK* Now wasn't that fun? Frank vented, you vented, and then you got to advertize loudly that you have "plonked" him. I think you should thank Frank. Let me guess ... *PLONK* :-) Gosh what fun :D *PLONK* |
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In article , anne
writes David Hill wrote in message ... A Hell of a lot of repitition and then .................????????? Why cant people Edit.????????? Dave, don't spoil it me and Franz were just getting on. Dare I mention your top posting Dave? No OK. He didn't top post. He interspersed his comments with the part of the text he was responding to - the bit of his reply I've quoted here was at the bottom. It just so happened that the sensible place for his first comment was at the top. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: ---------snipped--------------------------- Yes, I'm guilty again I'm afraid re "(twice on 07/08, tut,tut)" and to be honest I would have continued cross posting, but I didn't because I wanted to point out that you had committed a terrible sin and I would have looked silly if I had committed the same sin in my post that was pointing this out. I agree that not cross posting after a cross post could lead to people in the other newsgroups missing out, but in this case I'm here and you're here and you made your complaint to me only. Therefore, I thought your cross posting wasn't necessary and it was fun pointing this out. Hope this makes sense :-) Not yet, but it will do so after I have drunk a small whisky to your health. Here goes. {;-)) [Franz Heymann] No snipping again Franz. TUT TUT. 8-)) -- email farmer chris on Please don`t use as it`s a spam haven. |
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from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: --------------snipped----------------- Sorry Franz! I failed speedreading but I just keep *trying.* No need to be sorry. :-)) [Franz Heymann] How about some snipping just to be pedantic. 8-)) -- email farmer chris on Please don`t use as it`s a spam haven. |
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from "A Troll.............. and proud of it" contains these words: In response to Chris Norton's question " Are gnomes related to trolls?" Anne wrote "No, but top-posters are" Regards A Troll. Ah Yes, but you have made it quite clear that this was a top post. The problem arises when no one puts spaces in between. IMHO, a lesser crime to the usenet reply of 36 lines of unsnipped musings with a one line "hear hear" at the bottom. -- email farmer chris on Please don`t use as it`s a spam haven. |
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