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http://money.independent.co.uk/perso...p?story=431709
Quitting the rat race of urban stress and heading for a new life in the countryside is becoming increasingly popular. Research by the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors shows nearly two-thirds of farms sold between April and June were bought by non-farmers. Rob Jeffrey, founder of NewLandOwners, says: "For them, it's living the dream, but in many ways they are the saviours of the countryside."............... -- Martin |
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martin wrote in message ... http://money.independent.co.uk/perso...tory.jsp?story =431709 Quitting the rat race of urban stress and heading for a new life in the countryside is becoming increasingly popular. Research by the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors shows nearly two-thirds of farms sold between April and June were bought by non-farmers. Rob Jeffrey, founder of NewLandOwners, says: "For them, it's living the dream, but in many ways they are the saviours of the countryside."............... There's a legal farce going on at present concerning the Common Agricultural Policy which means that farmers who sell or buy farms at the moment don't know exactly what they are selling or buying. The result is that the market is dominated by those who are getting out of farming and those who are not buying farms for the purpose of farming them. Presumably when those legislating get their act together, farmers will be able to buy and sell farms again. -- Anton |
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 06:28:20 +0000 (UTC), "anton"
wrote: martin wrote in message ... http://money.independent.co.uk/perso...tory.jsp?story =431709 Quitting the rat race of urban stress and heading for a new life in the countryside is becoming increasingly popular. Research by the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors shows nearly two-thirds of farms sold between April and June were bought by non-farmers. Rob Jeffrey, founder of NewLandOwners, says: "For them, it's living the dream, but in many ways they are the saviours of the countryside."............... There's a legal farce going on at present concerning the Common Agricultural Policy which means that farmers who sell or buy farms at the moment don't know exactly what they are selling or buying. The result is that the market is dominated by those who are getting out of farming and those who are not buying farms for the purpose of farming them. Presumably when those legislating get their act together, farmers will be able to buy and sell farms again. The reason that farmers are getting out is because without subsidies many small farms aren't profitable. The CAP policy is to reduce subsidies. New Zealand abolished subsidies completely some time ago. There is no point in subsidising somebody to produce food at uneconomic prices that nobody wants. -- Martin |
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"anton" wrote martin wrote Quitting the rat race of urban stress and heading for a new life in the countryside is becoming increasingly popular. Research by the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors shows nearly two-thirds of farms sold between April and June were bought by non-farmers. Rob Jeffrey, founder of NewLandOwners, says: "For them, it's living the dream, but in many ways they are the saviours of the countryside."............... There's a legal farce going on at present concerning the Common Agricultural Policy which means that farmers who sell or buy farms at the moment don't know exactly what they are selling or buying. The result is that the market is dominated by those who are getting out of farming and those who are not buying farms for the purpose of farming them. Presumably when those legislating get their act together, farmers will be able to buy and sell farms again. Anton So how will the countryside look in, say, ten years time ?? Will it all be reverting to the wild :~)) Jenny |
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"JennyC" wrote in message "anton" wrote martin wrote Quitting the rat race of urban stress and heading for a new life in the countryside is becoming increasingly popular. Research by the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors shows nearly two-thirds of farms sold between April and June were bought by non-farmers. Rob Jeffrey, founder of NewLandOwners, says: "For them, it's living the dream, but in many ways they are the saviours of the countryside."............... There's a legal farce going on at present concerning the Common Agricultural Policy which means that farmers who sell or buy farms at the moment don't know exactly what they are selling or buying. The result is that the market is dominated by those who are getting out of farming and those who are not buying farms for the purpose of farming them. Presumably when those legislating get their act together, farmers will be able to buy and sell farms again. Anton So how will the countryside look in, say, ten years time ?? Will it all be reverting to the wild :~)) We walk the footpaths of Surrey when not working the allotment and are constantly coming across fields going wild because nothing is being done to them, they aren't being managed. Even some of those that are used to graze horses never seem to have the weeds removed so they gradually take over. Mind you I heard Sky Larks for the first time in years this year, so it's not all bad news. -- Bob www.pooleygreengrowers.org.uk/ about an Allotment site in Runnymede fighting for it's existence. |
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martin wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 06:28:20 +0000 (UTC), "anton" wrote: The reason that farmers are getting out is because without subsidies many small farms aren't profitable. The CAP policy is to reduce subsidies. ?Que? Care to give me a source for this assertion? The CAP is changing the payment systems (which is the legal farce I referred to) towards land-holding/management subsidies, as opposed to production subsidies. New Zealand abolished subsidies completely some time ago. There is no point in subsidising somebody to produce food at uneconomic prices that nobody wants. True. There is however every point in making legislative changes in a controlled manner, instead of broad-brush arm-waving nonsense which comes into force before the legislative wallies have worked out the details. -- Anton |
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martin wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 06:28:20 +0000 (UTC), "anton" wrote: The reason that farmers are getting out is because without subsidies many small farms aren't profitable. The CAP policy is to reduce subsidies. ?Que? Care to give me a source for this assertion? The CAP is changing the payment systems (which is the legal farce I referred to) towards land-holding/management subsidies, as opposed to production subsidies. New Zealand abolished subsidies completely some time ago. There is no point in subsidising somebody to produce food at uneconomic prices that nobody wants. True. There is however every point in making legislative changes in a controlled manner, instead of broad-brush arm-waving nonsense which comes into force before the legislative wallies have worked out the details. -- Anton |
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In message , JennyC
writes So how will the countryside look in, say, ten years time ?? Will it all be reverting to the wild :~)) Jenny An increasing amount of subsidy is going to be redirected from production based schemes to agri-environment schemes which will encourage better environmental management. -- Robert |
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JennyC wrote in message ... So how will the countryside look in, say, ten years time ?? Will it all be reverting to the wild :~)) Dunno. My little bit of the countryside will see probably see further hayfield depletion in favour of fruits and nuts, though. Last winter I smuggled a load of hazelnuts and cherry plums and a few more stone fruit past the Finance Committee, disguised as hedging. However, this winter the Finance C'tee will still be recovering from the planned Major Edifice which will be replacing the Fallen-Down Shed, so any fruit planting might cause a Diplomatic Incident. -- Anton |
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I suspect that in ten years time the countryside will be covered in grass with
holes full of sand dotted around. The grass will be cut short and have flags sticking out of it. Of course the farmers will then be subsidised according to how many golf carts they can fill. This will mean moving golfers around the country at dead of night. Bill Pritchard Retired and Emotional |
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:31:40 +0100, Robert wrote:
In message , JennyC writes So how will the countryside look in, say, ten years time ?? Will it all be reverting to the wild :~)) Jenny An increasing amount of subsidy is going to be redirected from production based schemes to agri-environment schemes which will encourage better environmental management. what ever that means -- Martin |
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:42:19 +0000 (UTC), "anton"
wrote: JennyC wrote in message ... So how will the countryside look in, say, ten years time ?? Will it all be reverting to the wild :~)) Dunno. My little bit of the countryside will see probably see further hayfield depletion in favour of fruits and nuts, though. Last winter I smuggled a load of hazelnuts and cherry plums and a few more stone fruit past the Finance Committee, disguised as hedging. However, this winter the Finance C'tee will still be recovering from the planned Major Edifice which will be replacing the Fallen-Down Shed, so any fruit planting might cause a Diplomatic Incident. LOL ! -- Martin |
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:31:40 +0100, Robert wrote:
In message , JennyC writes So how will the countryside look in, say, ten years time ?? Will it all be reverting to the wild :~)) Jenny An increasing amount of subsidy is going to be redirected from production based schemes to agri-environment schemes which will encourage better environmental management. what ever that means -- Martin |
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:42:19 +0000 (UTC), "anton"
wrote: JennyC wrote in message ... So how will the countryside look in, say, ten years time ?? Will it all be reverting to the wild :~)) Dunno. My little bit of the countryside will see probably see further hayfield depletion in favour of fruits and nuts, though. Last winter I smuggled a load of hazelnuts and cherry plums and a few more stone fruit past the Finance Committee, disguised as hedging. However, this winter the Finance C'tee will still be recovering from the planned Major Edifice which will be replacing the Fallen-Down Shed, so any fruit planting might cause a Diplomatic Incident. LOL ! -- Martin |
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