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martin 30-09-2003 10:55 PM

Green fly / soapy water
 
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:38:42 +0200, "JennyC" wrote:


"John Edgar" wrote in message
.. .
My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return

visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?

Thanks John


Soapy water and methelated spirits mixed together is even better :~))
A squirt of washing up liquid + a dollop of meths in a pint of water.


and a small dash of bitters and a splash of tonic.......
--
Martin

Jaques d'Altrades 30-09-2003 11:40 PM

Green fly / soapy water
 
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:
"John Edgar" wrote in message
...


My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?


Washing-up liquid is not soap.


But it does the trick.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Jaques d'Altrades 30-09-2003 11:41 PM

Green fly / soapy water
 
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:
"John Edgar" wrote in message
...


My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?


Washing-up liquid is not soap.


But it does the trick.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Jaques d'Altrades 30-09-2003 11:41 PM

Green fly / soapy water
 
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:
"John Edgar" wrote in message
...


My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?


Washing-up liquid is not soap.


But it does the trick.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Jaques d'Altrades 01-10-2003 12:24 AM

Green fly / soapy water
 
The message
from martin contains these words:

Soft soap is apparently made from vegetable oils


Definition: [n] a soft (or liquid) soap made from vegetable oils;
used in certain skin diseases


*or* it's not according to..........


/snip/

Soft soap contains potash.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

martin 01-10-2003 12:25 AM

Green fly / soapy water
 
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:11:34 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Soft soap is apparently made from vegetable oils


Definition: [n] a soft (or liquid) soap made from vegetable oils;
used in certain skin diseases


*or* it's not according to..........


/snip/

Soft soap contains potash.


that's what Webster Dictionary says that I quoted and you snipped
--
Martin

Jaques d'Altrades 01-10-2003 12:26 AM

Green fly / soapy water
 
The message
from martin contains these words:

Soft soap is apparently made from vegetable oils


Definition: [n] a soft (or liquid) soap made from vegetable oils;
used in certain skin diseases


*or* it's not according to..........


/snip/

Soft soap contains potash.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

martin 01-10-2003 12:26 AM

Green fly / soapy water
 
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:11:34 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Soft soap is apparently made from vegetable oils


Definition: [n] a soft (or liquid) soap made from vegetable oils;
used in certain skin diseases


*or* it's not according to..........


/snip/

Soft soap contains potash.


that's what Webster Dictionary says that I quoted and you snipped
--
Martin

JennyC 01-10-2003 08:09 AM

Green fly / soapy water
 

"martin" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:38:42 +0200, "JennyC"

wrote:


"John Edgar" wrote in message
.. .
My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of

the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return

visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do

not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and

what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?

Thanks John


Soapy water and methelated spirits mixed together is even better

:~))
A squirt of washing up liquid + a dollop of meths in a pint of

water.

and a small dash of bitters and a splash of tonic.......
Martin


Shaken not stirred...........
Jenny



Franz Heymann 01-10-2003 09:42 AM

Green fly / soapy water
 

"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these

words:
"John Edgar" wrote in message
...


My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?


Washing-up liquid is not soap.


But it does the trick.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm




Jaques d'Altrades 01-10-2003 10:44 AM

Green fly / soapy water
 
The message
from martin contains these words:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:11:34 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:
The message
from martin contains these words:

Soft soap is apparently made from vegetable oils


Definition: [n] a soft (or liquid) soap made from vegetable oils;
used in certain skin diseases


*or* it's not according to..........


/snip/

Soft soap contains potash.


that's what Webster Dictionary says that I quoted and you snipped


You overquoted. Life's too short to wade through that lot.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

John Edgar 01-10-2003 11:44 AM

Green fly / soapy water
 
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:07:35 +0100, John Edgar
wrote:

My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?

Thanks

John
In limine sapientiae



Great. Thanks for all the replies. I think I'll soft-soap them with a
little meths. Don't want to get them too drunk: I'd rather they just
went.
John
In limine sapientiae

Martin Brown 01-10-2003 01:42 PM

Green fly / soapy water
 
In message , Jaques d'Altrades
writes
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:
"John Edgar" wrote in message
...


My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?


Washing-up liquid is not soap.


But it does the trick.


Any wetting agent will interfere with insects respiration.
Soft soaps are more effective and gungy.

You do have to be careful what you use it on. Some plants do not like
this treatment. I defoliated a bay tree once this way. It stripped the
surface waxy coating and the leaves desiccated within a few days of
application.

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

martin 01-10-2003 02:22 PM

Green fly / soapy water
 
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:51:38 +0200, "JennyC" wrote:


"martin" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:38:42 +0200, "JennyC"

wrote:


"John Edgar" wrote in message
.. .
My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of

the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return
visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do

not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and

what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?

Thanks John

Soapy water and methelated spirits mixed together is even better

:~))
A squirt of washing up liquid + a dollop of meths in a pint of

water.

and a small dash of bitters and a splash of tonic.......
Martin


Shaken not stirred...........


with a Greek Cypriot Olive/Lime.........
--
Martin

martin 01-10-2003 02:22 PM

Green fly / soapy water
 
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:35:50 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:11:34 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:
The message
from martin contains these words:

Soft soap is apparently made from vegetable oils

Definition: [n] a soft (or liquid) soap made from vegetable oils;
used in certain skin diseases

*or* it's not according to..........

/snip/

Soft soap contains potash.


that's what Webster Dictionary says that I quoted and you snipped


You overquoted. Life's too short to wade through that lot.


You need to read faster and post slower :-)
--
Martin


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