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Franz Heymann 01-10-2003 03:42 PM

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There is a commercial source of composted cowpats which, it is claimed, is a
very concentrated, rich compost. If I understand it correctly, it is too
rich to be used as a mulch in the ordinary sense of the word. And yet, if
my memory serves me right, it is relatively inexpensive.

Does any urgler have any experience of it?

Franz



Janet Baraclough 01-10-2003 06:42 PM

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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

There is a commercial source of composted cowpats which, it is claimed, is a
very concentrated, rich compost. If I understand it correctly, it is too
rich to be used as a mulch in the ordinary sense of the word. And yet, if
my memory serves me right, it is relatively inexpensive.


Does any urgler have any experience of it?


Dunno, what's the brand name? I've used 6X, which is composted poultry
manure. You certainly would not want to use that as a mulch, it's far
too rich; but very effective scattered lightly as a fertiliser on soil
surface, or a *small* amount mixed into compost for potted fuchsias etc.

Janet.



Franz Heymann 01-10-2003 10:43 PM

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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these

words:

There is a commercial source of composted cowpats which, it is claimed,

is a
very concentrated, rich compost. If I understand it correctly, it is

too
rich to be used as a mulch in the ordinary sense of the word. And yet,

if
my memory serves me right, it is relatively inexpensive.


Does any urgler have any experience of it?


Dunno, what's the brand name? I've used 6X, which is composted poultry
manure. You certainly would not want to use that as a mulch, it's far
too rich; but very effective scattered lightly as a fertiliser on soil
surface, or a *small* amount mixed into compost for potted fuchsias etc.


My problem is that I have forgotten the brand name and the source of that
composted cow manure.

Yes, I have used poultry manure frequently, and I reaslise that it is pretty
potent stuff, unsuitable for general mulching.

Franz



Jaques d'Altrades 02-10-2003 12:04 AM

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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

Yes, I have used poultry manure frequently, and I reaslise that it is pretty
potent stuff, unsuitable for general mulching.


IRTA 'general munching' and couldn't agree more.

--
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http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Franz Heymann 02-10-2003 09:41 AM

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"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
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Yes, I have used poultry manure frequently, and I reaslise that it is

pretty
potent stuff, unsuitable for general mulching.


IRTA 'general munching' and couldn't agree more.


Into the mouths of babes and sucklings....

{:-))

Franz



Franz Heymann 02-10-2003 09:41 AM

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"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
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Yes, I have used poultry manure frequently, and I reaslise that it is

pretty
potent stuff, unsuitable for general mulching.


IRTA 'general munching' and couldn't agree more.


Into the mouths of babes and sucklings....

{:-))

Franz



Jaques d'Altrades 02-10-2003 12:22 PM

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Yes, I have used poultry manure frequently, and I reaslise that it is

pretty
potent stuff, unsuitable for general mulching.


IRTA 'general munching' and couldn't agree more.


Into the mouths of babes and sucklings....


IRTA 'Into the mouths of babes and ducklings....' and it molished
perfect sense.

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http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Jaques d'Altrades 02-10-2003 12:25 PM

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Yes, I have used poultry manure frequently, and I reaslise that it is

pretty
potent stuff, unsuitable for general mulching.


IRTA 'general munching' and couldn't agree more.


Into the mouths of babes and sucklings....


IRTA 'Into the mouths of babes and ducklings....' and it molished
perfect sense.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Alastair 02-10-2003 01:02 PM

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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message ...
Yes, I have used poultry manure frequently, and I reaslise that it is pretty
potent stuff, unsuitable for general mulching.

Franz



What makes it unsuitable?
Is there something within that is so concentrated that it causes plants to burn?

Alastair

Franz Heymann 02-10-2003 02:32 PM

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"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
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from "Franz Heymann" contains these

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Yes, I have used poultry manure frequently, and I reaslise that it

is
pretty
potent stuff, unsuitable for general mulching.

IRTA 'general munching' and couldn't agree more.


Into the mouths of babes and sucklings....


IRTA 'Into the mouths of babes and ducklings....' and it molished
perfect sense.


{:-))

Franz



Franz Heymann 02-10-2003 02:32 PM

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"Alastair" wrote in message
m...
"Franz Heymann" wrote in message

...
Yes, I have used poultry manure frequently, and I reaslise that it is

pretty
potent stuff, unsuitable for general mulching.

Franz



What makes it unsuitable?
Is there something within that is so concentrated that it causes plants to

burn?

Indeed there is, judging by all I have read about chicken manure.
The cautionary words are always to use it sparingly, like a strong
fertiliser rather than like a mulch.

Franz



martin 02-10-2003 03:02 PM

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:30:29 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Alastair" wrote in message
om...
"Franz Heymann" wrote in message

...
Yes, I have used poultry manure frequently, and I reaslise that it is

pretty
potent stuff, unsuitable for general mulching.

Franz



What makes it unsuitable?
Is there something within that is so concentrated that it causes plants to

burn?

Indeed there is, judging by all I have read about chicken manure.
The cautionary words are always to use it sparingly, like a strong
fertiliser rather than like a mulch.


Anybody who has ever kept free range chickens will know that after a
while nothing grows in the chicken run except AFAIR nettles.
--
Martin

Howard Neil 02-10-2003 04:33 PM

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"martin" wrote in message
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Anybody who has ever kept free range chickens will know that after a
while nothing grows in the chicken run except AFAIR nettles.


I would hardly call chickens kept in a run "free range". My free range
chickens cause no problems at all. I would expect chickens kept in a run to
kill any plants by their scratching and digging dust hollows.

--
Howard Neil



martin 02-10-2003 05:02 PM

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:24:22 +0100, "Howard Neil" hneil@REMOVE TO
REPLY.co.uk wrote:


"martin" wrote in message
.. .

Anybody who has ever kept free range chickens will know that after a
while nothing grows in the chicken run except AFAIR nettles.


I would hardly call chickens kept in a run "free range".


depends on the size of the run the number of chickens in the run
and the size of your range.

Isn't it free range as opposed to battery farmed and nothing to do
with the state of Texas?

My free range
chickens cause no problems at all. I would expect chickens kept in a run to
kill any plants by their scratching and digging dust hollows.


even the nettles?

--
Martin

Howard Neil 02-10-2003 07:24 PM

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"martin" wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:24:22 +0100, "Howard Neil" hneil@REMOVE TO
REPLY.co.uk wrote:


My free range
chickens cause no problems at all. I would expect chickens kept in a run

to
kill any plants by their scratching and digging dust hollows.


even the nettles?


I only know two people who keep chickens in a run (most around me have free
range chickens) and their chickens seem to have a scorched earth policy.
Mind you, I do not know if they had nettles in the first place.

--
Howard Neil



martin 02-10-2003 08:22 PM

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:21:36 +0100, "Howard Neil" hneil@REMOVE TO
REPLY.co.uk wrote:


"martin" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:24:22 +0100, "Howard Neil" hneil@REMOVE TO
REPLY.co.uk wrote:


My free range
chickens cause no problems at all. I would expect chickens kept in a run

to
kill any plants by their scratching and digging dust hollows.


even the nettles?


I only know two people who keep chickens in a run (most around me have free
range chickens) and their chickens seem to have a scorched earth policy.
Mind you, I do not know if they had nettles in the first place.


During the war my grandmother devoted the whole of an extremely large
garden to her chickens by 1945 there were only nettles left.
--
Martin

Franz Heymann 02-10-2003 10:02 PM

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"Howard Neil" hneil@REMOVE TO REPLY.co.uk wrote in message
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"martin" wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:24:22 +0100, "Howard Neil" hneil@REMOVE TO
REPLY.co.uk wrote:


My free range
chickens cause no problems at all. I would expect chickens kept in a

run
to
kill any plants by their scratching and digging dust hollows.


even the nettles?


I only know two people who keep chickens in a run (most around me have

free
range chickens) and their chickens seem to have a scorched earth policy.
Mind you, I do not know if they had nettles in the first place.


My curiousity drives me to display my ignorance: What is involved in
keeping chickens in a run, and what constitutes a free range chicken?

Franz



martin 02-10-2003 10:22 PM

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:08:44 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Howard Neil" hneil@REMOVE TO REPLY.co.uk wrote in message
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"martin" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:24:22 +0100, "Howard Neil" hneil@REMOVE TO
REPLY.co.uk wrote:


My free range
chickens cause no problems at all. I would expect chickens kept in a

run
to
kill any plants by their scratching and digging dust hollows.

even the nettles?


I only know two people who keep chickens in a run (most around me have

free
range chickens) and their chickens seem to have a scorched earth policy.
Mind you, I do not know if they had nettles in the first place.


My curiousity drives me to display my ignorance: What is involved in
keeping chickens in a run, and what constitutes a free range chicken?


I also thought chickens in a run were free range. I also thought that
a run was an outside place where chickens were kept.

It seems that chicken run has a more specific meaning nowadays
see http://www.henhouses.co.uk/aylesford.html
--
Martin

Jaques d'Altrades 02-10-2003 11:02 PM

Cow manure fertiliser
 
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

My curiousity drives me to display my ignorance: What is involved in
keeping chickens in a run, and what constitutes a free range chicken?


Batteries are small cages which the chickens live in. A sloping wire
mesh floor allows eggs to roll out to a ramp outside the cage, thus
remaining clean and unpecked.

Chickens in a run usually means that there is a wooden chicken house
with a wire-netting run attached.

(Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade
their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or
go on holiday with Mr. Fox.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Jaques d'Altrades 02-10-2003 11:02 PM

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The message
from martin contains these words:

During the war my grandmother devoted the whole of an extremely large
garden to her chickens by 1945 there were only nettles left.


Ah. I had a grandmother like that. Strangely, she was never without
butter, bacon, tea, coffee, sugar, etc.

Then again, she had a *LOT* of hens, and a grocer for a next-door
neighbour........

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Janet Baraclough 03-10-2003 12:23 AM

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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:


My curiousity drives me to display my ignorance: What is involved in
keeping chickens in a run, and what constitutes a free range chicken?


Chickens are omnivores. Given a the chance they eat grass (lots),
seeds, weeds, insects, worms, mice, frogs, bugs, grubs etc. They
constantly scratch and peck, foraging for food, even when they have
ample commercial food cut into peck-sized pieces and served up in a
clean container.The yolk colour and taste of eggs and meat from chickens
fed that way is superb; that's what, as a chicken keeper, I classify as
freerange chicken.

Also, hens dustbath. 4 chickens, put in a fenced grassed run the size
of a living room, will soon peck, scratch and dustbath it into a bare
earth run devoid of life. One way round this is a moveable run to
conserve the grass, and give the birds access to fresh supplies of worms
etc. Or, you let them run loose on such a large area that they can never
wear down the herbage, which is what we did. We kept a handful of
chickens on almost 4 acres and they made no impression on it at all.

Janet.




martin 03-10-2003 09:44 AM

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:25:58 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:


My curiousity drives me to display my ignorance: What is involved in
keeping chickens in a run, and what constitutes a free range chicken?


Chickens are omnivores. Given a the chance they eat grass (lots),
seeds, weeds, insects, worms, mice, frogs, bugs, grubs etc.


and each other!

They
constantly scratch and peck, foraging for food, even when they have
ample commercial food cut into peck-sized pieces and served up in a
clean container.


I tend to do the same :-)

The yolk colour and taste of eggs and meat from chickens
fed that way is superb; that's what, as a chicken keeper, I classify as
freerange chicken.

Also, hens dustbath. 4 chickens, put in a fenced grassed run the size
of a living room, will soon peck, scratch and dustbath it into a bare
earth run devoid of life. One way round this is a moveable run to
conserve the grass, and give the birds access to fresh supplies of worms
etc. Or, you let them run loose on such a large area that they can never
wear down the herbage, which is what we did. We kept a handful of
chickens on almost 4 acres and they made no impression on it at all.


ah!
--
Martin

martin 03-10-2003 09:45 AM

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:25:58 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:


My curiousity drives me to display my ignorance: What is involved in
keeping chickens in a run, and what constitutes a free range chicken?


Chickens are omnivores. Given a the chance they eat grass (lots),
seeds, weeds, insects, worms, mice, frogs, bugs, grubs etc.


and each other!

They
constantly scratch and peck, foraging for food, even when they have
ample commercial food cut into peck-sized pieces and served up in a
clean container.


I tend to do the same :-)

The yolk colour and taste of eggs and meat from chickens
fed that way is superb; that's what, as a chicken keeper, I classify as
freerange chicken.

Also, hens dustbath. 4 chickens, put in a fenced grassed run the size
of a living room, will soon peck, scratch and dustbath it into a bare
earth run devoid of life. One way round this is a moveable run to
conserve the grass, and give the birds access to fresh supplies of worms
etc. Or, you let them run loose on such a large area that they can never
wear down the herbage, which is what we did. We kept a handful of
chickens on almost 4 acres and they made no impression on it at all.


ah!
--
Martin

martin 03-10-2003 10:03 AM

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:29:07 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

During the war my grandmother devoted the whole of an extremely large
garden to her chickens by 1945 there were only nettles left.


Ah. I had a grandmother like that. Strangely, she was never without
butter, bacon, tea, coffee, sugar, etc.


She also kept a pig in a sty and geese.


Then again, she had a *LOT* of hens, and a grocer for a next-door
neighbour........


amazing, are we related? :-)
--
Martin

martin 03-10-2003 10:03 AM

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:34:33 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:



(Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade
their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or
go on holiday with Mr. Fox.


We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that
peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing
a peacock fly. We have never seen grebes fly either.
--
Martin

The Flying Hamster 03-10-2003 11:22 AM

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On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:33:48 +0200, martin wrote:
We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that
peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing
a peacock fly. We have never seen grebes fly either.


They hide all the climbingtqt in their feathers, well all apart from
the geekpeacocks who hollow out the tree and install a lift.

--
The Flying Hamster http://www.korenwolf.net/
Programming machines that won't think using an operating system that can't
help to give the people who don't want it an application that doesn't work.

Jaques d'Altrades 03-10-2003 12:13 PM

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The message
from martin contains these words:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:29:07 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:
The message
from martin contains these words:

During the war my grandmother devoted the whole of an extremely large
garden to her chickens by 1945 there were only nettles left.


Ah. I had a grandmother like that. Strangely, she was never without
butter, bacon, tea, coffee, sugar, etc.


She also kept a pig in a sty and geese.



Then again, she had a *LOT* of hens, and a grocer for a next-door
neighbour........


amazing, are we related? :-)


sulk

I never saw the pig or the geese......

And I thought *I* was he apple of her eye.

/sulk

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Jaques d'Altrades 03-10-2003 12:15 PM

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The message
from martin contains these words:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:34:33 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:



(Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade
their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or
go on holiday with Mr. Fox.


We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that
peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing
a peacock fly. We have never seen grebes fly either.


Oh, peafowl fly. A peacock adopted me for a summer and used to roost on
my roof. At first light he would stomp up and down the ridge in hobnail
boots, uttering piercing whistles.

The dwelling being (nominally) a bungalow, and having a corrugated iron
lid, this was an unwelcome activity, and had it continued much longer
might have introduced me to the delights of roast peacock........

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

martin 03-10-2003 12:15 PM

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On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:00:09 +0100, The Flying Hamster
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:33:48 +0200, martin wrote:
We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that
peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing
a peacock fly. We have never seen grebes fly either.


They hide all the climbingtqt in their feathers, well all apart from
the geekpeacocks who hollow out the tree and install a lift.


escamemulator shirley?

gasp of amazement so!

and grebes prefer to travel underwater than fly.

what about flying hamsters and pigs?
--
Martin

Franz Heymann 03-10-2003 11:59 PM

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"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these

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My curiousity drives me to display my ignorance: What is involved in
keeping chickens in a run, and what constitutes a free range chicken?


Batteries are small cages which the chickens live in. A sloping wire
mesh floor allows eggs to roll out to a ramp outside the cage, thus
remaining clean and unpecked.

Chickens in a run usually means that there is a wooden chicken house
with a wire-netting run attached.


If you had meant to say ".....chicken house situated in a compound bounded
by a wire-netting fence, I would have understood you.

(Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade
their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or
go on holiday with Mr. Fox.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm




Franz Heymann 04-10-2003 12:00 AM

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"martin" wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:34:33 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:



(Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade
their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or
go on holiday with Mr. Fox.


We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that
peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing
a peacock fly. We have never seen grebes fly either.


At Lac Joux in the Jura, there was a group of great crested grebes which
were never seen in winter. I never saw them fly, but I don't think they
hitch-hiked to warmer climes...

Franz
--
Martin




Franz Heymann 04-10-2003 12:05 AM

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"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these

words:

My curiousity drives me to display my ignorance: What is involved in
keeping chickens in a run, and what constitutes a free range chicken?


Batteries are small cages which the chickens live in. A sloping wire
mesh floor allows eggs to roll out to a ramp outside the cage, thus
remaining clean and unpecked.

Chickens in a run usually means that there is a wooden chicken house
with a wire-netting run attached.


If you had meant to say ".....chicken house situated in a compound bounded
by a wire-netting fence, I would have understood you.

(Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade
their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or
go on holiday with Mr. Fox.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm




Franz Heymann 04-10-2003 12:05 AM

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"martin" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:34:33 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:



(Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade
their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or
go on holiday with Mr. Fox.


We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that
peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing
a peacock fly. We have never seen grebes fly either.


At Lac Joux in the Jura, there was a group of great crested grebes which
were never seen in winter. I never saw them fly, but I don't think they
hitch-hiked to warmer climes...

Franz
--
Martin




Franz Heymann 04-10-2003 01:46 AM

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"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these

words:

My curiousity drives me to display my ignorance: What is involved in
keeping chickens in a run, and what constitutes a free range chicken?


Batteries are small cages which the chickens live in. A sloping wire
mesh floor allows eggs to roll out to a ramp outside the cage, thus
remaining clean and unpecked.

Chickens in a run usually means that there is a wooden chicken house
with a wire-netting run attached.


If you had meant to say ".....chicken house situated in a compound bounded
by a wire-netting fence, I would have understood you.

(Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade
their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or
go on holiday with Mr. Fox.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm




Franz Heymann 04-10-2003 01:46 AM

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"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these

words:

My curiousity drives me to display my ignorance: What is involved in
keeping chickens in a run, and what constitutes a free range chicken?


Batteries are small cages which the chickens live in. A sloping wire
mesh floor allows eggs to roll out to a ramp outside the cage, thus
remaining clean and unpecked.

Chickens in a run usually means that there is a wooden chicken house
with a wire-netting run attached.


If you had meant to say ".....chicken house situated in a compound bounded
by a wire-netting fence, I would have understood you.

(Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade
their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or
go on holiday with Mr. Fox.

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Franz Heymann 04-10-2003 01:46 AM

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"martin" wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:34:33 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
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(Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade
their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or
go on holiday with Mr. Fox.


We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that
peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing
a peacock fly. We have never seen grebes fly either.


At Lac Joux in the Jura, there was a group of great crested grebes which
were never seen in winter. I never saw them fly, but I don't think they
hitch-hiked to warmer climes...

Franz
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Franz Heymann 04-10-2003 01:46 AM

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"martin" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:34:33 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:



(Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade
their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or
go on holiday with Mr. Fox.


We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that
peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing
a peacock fly. We have never seen grebes fly either.


At Lac Joux in the Jura, there was a group of great crested grebes which
were never seen in winter. I never saw them fly, but I don't think they
hitch-hiked to warmer climes...

Franz
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Martin




Janet Baraclough 04-10-2003 02:09 AM

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The message
from martin contains these words:

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:34:33 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:




(Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade
their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or
go on holiday with Mr. Fox.


We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that
peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing
a peacock fly.


They can't fly high or long distances.

Ours roosted high up in the biggest tree in their territory, a huge
beech beside the house, but there's no way they could fly straight up
the roost 50 or 60 ft up. They ascend in stages; quite a sight to watch.
The dominant cock assembles the flock at the foot of the roost then
calls them up, branch by branch.

Janet.

Franz Heymann 04-10-2003 10:11 AM

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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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from martin contains these words:

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:34:33 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:




(Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade
their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or
go on holiday with Mr. Fox.


We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that
peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing
a peacock fly.


They can't fly high or long distances.

Ours roosted high up in the biggest tree in their territory, a huge
beech beside the house, but there's no way they could fly straight up
the roost 50 or 60 ft up. They ascend in stages; quite a sight to watch.
The dominant cock assembles the flock at the foot of the roost then
calls them up, branch by branch.


It sounds more likw good jumping rather than bad flying. {:-)

Franz



Jaques d'Altrades 04-10-2003 02:22 PM

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If you had meant to say ".....chicken house situated in a compound bounded
by a wire-netting fence, I would have understood you.


No. That qualifies, but often, the run is attached to one or two sides
of the henhouse to allow forays into the house for egg-collecting
without having to enter the run first.

Viz:
____________ - - - - - - - - - - - - -
| | :
| | :
| / :
| | :
| __________| :
\ - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Though usually such an arrangement has external access to the nest boxes.

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