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al 02-10-2003 07:23 PM

Squirrels
 
For a month or so now, little holes have been appearing in my nice new lawn
and in my flowerbeds. Finally, I caught one of the little buggers at it -
it was a squirrel trying to bury a nut!!

Is there any way of stopping them or discouraging them from my garden? What
attracts them to me?



a



[email protected] 02-10-2003 08:42 PM

Squirrels
 
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:49:46 +0100, "al"
wrote:

For a month or so now, little holes have been appearing in my nice new lawn
and in my flowerbeds. Finally, I caught one of the little buggers at it -
it was a squirrel trying to bury a nut!!

Is there any way of stopping them or discouraging them from my garden? What
attracts them to me?


Do you have a long bushy tail?
--
Stuart Baldwin
news\at/boxatrix\dot/co\dot/uk

Zipadee Doodar 02-10-2003 10:12 PM

Squirrels
 

What
attracts them to me?


Your nuts.

ZD



Jaques d'Altrades 02-10-2003 10:22 PM

Squirrels
 
The message
from "al" contains these words:

For a month or so now, little holes have been appearing in my nice new lawn
and in my flowerbeds. Finally, I caught one of the little buggers at it -
it was a squirrel trying to bury a nut!!


Is there any way of stopping them or discouraging them from my garden? What
attracts them to me?



Squirrel pie.
Ingredients:

Five squirrels, skinned, cleaned and jointed.
about ten rashers of streaky bacon
a sprinkling of plain flour
½oz olive oil or butter
2 English onions
3 good carrots
a small parsnip
4 sticks celery
glass of red wine
teaspoon of marjoram
½ teaspoon of ground nutmeg
black pepper to taste
salt if desired
pinch of sage, marjoram and thyme

Enough short pastry to make a piecrust cover over your favourite pie dish

Method.
Chop vegetables.
Cut bacon into small pieces
Heat butter or olive oil in a flat open pan.
Roll squirrel pieces in flour.
Add floured pieces, bacon and chopped onions to hot fat
Fry until juices stop coming from pieces, stirring from time to time.

When the meat is cooked (see above) remove it and the onions and place
in pie dish
Add the rest of the vegetables
Now add the surplus flour to the fat in the pan and make a roux using
the red wine and any stock or vegetable stock you have to thin it to the
consistency of white sauce. Add herbs and spices and stir in.

Add the gravy to the contents of your pie dish and cover with pastry.
(You may wish to use a piecrust raiser thingamejig-wotsit)

Cook in oven until piecrust is done.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Janice 02-10-2003 11:02 PM

Squirrels
 
"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
Finally, I caught one of the little buggers at it -
it was a squirrel trying to bury a nut!!


I wonder if setting a rat trap, baited with peanuts or similar, would catch
them? Anyone know if that'd work?





al 02-10-2003 11:12 PM

Squirrels
 
wrote in message
...
Is there any way of stopping them or discouraging them from my garden?

What
attracts them to me?


Do you have a long bushy tail?
--
Stuart Baldwin


Is that a line you use often?? ;P


a



[email protected] 03-10-2003 12:23 AM

Squirrels
 
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 23:05:34 +0100, "al"
wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
Is there any way of stopping them or discouraging them from my garden?

What
attracts them to me?


Do you have a long bushy tail?
--
Stuart Baldwin


Is that a line you use often?? ;P


When I think I can get away with it.

So, no.
--
Stuart Baldwin
news\at/boxatrix\dot/co\dot/uk

al 03-10-2003 08:34 AM

Squirrels
 
"Zipadee Doodar" wrote in message
...

What
attracts them to me?


Your nuts.

ZD


Yeah, OK, I can see this line of questioning is going to get me far! But
come on, why my garden? Why in grass? Why not in the bloody great park
behind my house!?

Also - general knowledge question on the little bushy rodents .... do they
hibernate and are they at all nocturnal?


a



al 03-10-2003 08:34 AM

Squirrels
 
"Janice" wrote in message
news:871fb.5343$QH3.1710@newsfep4-

I wonder if setting a rat trap, baited with peanuts or similar, would

catch
them? Anyone know if that'd work?


Ewwwww ... but then I'd have to dispose of them! I just want to make my
garden a place they don't want to come to ...



a



al 03-10-2003 08:36 AM

Squirrels
 
"Zipadee Doodar" wrote in message
...

What
attracts them to me?


Your nuts.

ZD


Yeah, OK, I can see this line of questioning is going to get me far! But
come on, why my garden? Why in grass? Why not in the bloody great park
behind my house!?

Also - general knowledge question on the little bushy rodents .... do they
hibernate and are they at all nocturnal?


a



al 03-10-2003 08:36 AM

Squirrels
 
"Janice" wrote in message
news:871fb.5343$QH3.1710@newsfep4-

I wonder if setting a rat trap, baited with peanuts or similar, would

catch
them? Anyone know if that'd work?


Ewwwww ... but then I'd have to dispose of them! I just want to make my
garden a place they don't want to come to ...



a



bigboard 03-10-2003 09:42 AM

Squirrels
 
al wrote:
"Zipadee Doodar" wrote in message
...

What

attracts them to me?

Your nuts.

ZD



Yeah, OK, I can see this line of questioning is going to get me far! But
come on, why my garden? Why in grass? Why not in the bloody great park
behind my house!?

Also - general knowledge question on the little bushy rodents .... do they
hibernate and are they at all nocturnal?


a



AFAIK, they sort of hibernate! And only if it gets very cold, otherwise
they're up and about most of the winter.

As for why they bury their nuts in your garden rather than the park, I
would guess that the park is mostly grassland and there are no obvious
landmarks for reference points as to where they left there nuts.

My solution would be to leave them alone, but if they were really
causing a nuisance, to shoot them. I realise this may not be desirable
for you or practical!


bigboard 03-10-2003 09:44 AM

Squirrels
 
al wrote:
"Zipadee Doodar" wrote in message
...

What

attracts them to me?

Your nuts.

ZD



Yeah, OK, I can see this line of questioning is going to get me far! But
come on, why my garden? Why in grass? Why not in the bloody great park
behind my house!?

Also - general knowledge question on the little bushy rodents .... do they
hibernate and are they at all nocturnal?


a



AFAIK, they sort of hibernate! And only if it gets very cold, otherwise
they're up and about most of the winter.

As for why they bury their nuts in your garden rather than the park, I
would guess that the park is mostly grassland and there are no obvious
landmarks for reference points as to where they left there nuts.

My solution would be to leave them alone, but if they were really
causing a nuisance, to shoot them. I realise this may not be desirable
for you or practical!


bigboard 03-10-2003 09:44 AM

Squirrels
 
al wrote:
"Zipadee Doodar" wrote in message
...

What

attracts them to me?

Your nuts.

ZD



Yeah, OK, I can see this line of questioning is going to get me far! But
come on, why my garden? Why in grass? Why not in the bloody great park
behind my house!?

Also - general knowledge question on the little bushy rodents .... do they
hibernate and are they at all nocturnal?


a



AFAIK, they sort of hibernate! And only if it gets very cold, otherwise
they're up and about most of the winter.

As for why they bury their nuts in your garden rather than the park, I
would guess that the park is mostly grassland and there are no obvious
landmarks for reference points as to where they left there nuts.

My solution would be to leave them alone, but if they were really
causing a nuisance, to shoot them. I realise this may not be desirable
for you or practical!


Jaques d'Altrades 03-10-2003 12:15 PM

Squirrels
 
The message
from "al" contains these words:

Also - general knowledge question on the little bushy rodents .... do they
hibernate and are they at all nocturnal?


They don't properly hibernate, they snooze at reduced metabolism rate,
then waken if the temperature is high enough and search for hidden nuts.

They aren't at all nocturnal AFAIK, but might be fooled by strong
artificial lights. I've never seen one after dark, and yes, I probably
would, as I go lamping for rats and foxes.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Jaques d'Altrades 03-10-2003 12:15 PM

Squirrels
 
The message
from "al" contains these words:
"Janice" wrote in message
news:871fb.5343$QH3.1710@newsfep4-

I wonder if setting a rat trap, baited with peanuts or similar, would

catch
them? Anyone know if that'd work?


Ewwwww ... but then I'd have to dispose of them! I just want to make my
garden a place they don't want to come to ...


Butbutbutbutbut I've *TOLD* you how to dispose of them!

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Steve Harris 03-10-2003 02:32 PM

Squirrels
 
In article ,
(al) wrote:

Is there any way of stopping them or discouraging them from my
garden?


A lead spray!

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

Steve Harris 03-10-2003 02:32 PM

Squirrels
 
In article ,
(al) wrote:

do they hibernate

No
and are they at all nocturnal?

They don't go outside at night, they dance the night away in some poor
bugger's loft.


Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

Steve Harris 03-10-2003 02:32 PM

Squirrels
 
In article ,
(al) wrote:

I just want to make my
garden a place they don't want to come to ...


Some neighbours have a dog loose. It doesn't totally discourage them but
they move when the dog wants them to.

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

S.carolinensis 03-10-2003 02:42 PM

Squirrels
 

"al" wrote in message:
For a month or so now, little holes have been appearing in my nice new

lawn
and in my flowerbeds. Finally, I caught one of the little buggers at it -
it was a squirrel trying to bury a nut!!

Is there any way of stopping them or discouraging them from my garden?
What attracts them to me?

---
A squirrel writes... "Come off it mate, we're only doing what comes
naturally. You put nuts out in your garden, how do we know they're not for
us? You should thank your lucky stars you only have us, you could
have a family of bloody badgers digging damn great holes around your garden,
and depositing piles of crap. Every day our 'landlord' puts out nuts, seeds
and fat balls for us then calls us a tree rats, tree rats I ask you, how
insensitive can you get?
I sometimes think we'd be better off back in the woods."








al 03-10-2003 07:02 PM

Squirrels
 
Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:168468

"bigboard" wrote in message
-
AFAIK, they sort of hibernate! And only if it gets very cold, otherwise
they're up and about most of the winter.

But walking around Holland Park in London last winter in the REALLY hard,
cold days there were loads of squirrels following me about. During the
summer they were far less brazen (maybe because more ppl & kids are there to
terrorise them!).

As for why they bury their nuts in your garden rather than the park, I
would guess that the park is mostly grassland and there are no obvious
landmarks for reference points as to where they left there nuts.

You might be on to something there - perhaps I'll change the garden around
every week to really **** them off so they can't find anything!! ;)

My solution would be to leave them alone, but if they were really
causing a nuisance, to shoot them. I realise this may not be desirable
for you or practical!


Well, firstly, I've only ever seen one once and there are holes all over my
garden. Secondly I don't have a gun. Thirdly, pests as they might be, I
really don't want to execute them - just repulse them. Perhaps pictures of
Jade from BB last year with her "kebab" on show would do the trick. There
again, the neighbours might burn the house down while I'm at work ...!


a



al 03-10-2003 07:02 PM

Squirrels
 
"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
They don't properly hibernate, they snooze at reduced metabolism rate,
then waken if the temperature is high enough and search for hidden nuts.

They aren't at all nocturnal AFAIK, but might be fooled by strong
artificial lights. I've never seen one after dark, and yes, I probably
would, as I go lamping for rats and foxes.


Thanks for the info - the reason I thought they might be is because I've
never seen them digging during the day so I figured they may be doing it
when dark.


a



al 03-10-2003 07:02 PM

Squirrels
 
"S.carolinensis" wrote in message
news:mWefb.620$my.249894@newsfep1-
A squirrel writes... "Come off it mate, we're only doing what comes
naturally. You put nuts out in your garden, how do we know they're not for
us? You should thank your lucky stars you only have us, you could
have a family of bloody badgers digging damn great holes around your

garden,
and depositing piles of crap. Every day our 'landlord' puts out nuts,

seeds
and fat balls for us then calls us a tree rats, tree rats I ask you, how
insensitive can you get?
I sometimes think we'd be better off back in the woods."


But I don't have any nuts .... lol - yeah right, not going to walk into that
one ;P



a



Nick Maclaren 03-10-2003 07:02 PM

Squirrels
 
In article ,
al wrote:

But I don't have any nuts .... lol - yeah right, not going to walk into that
one ;P


Yes, you need to be careful. Walking into things can definitely
cause a pain in the nuts.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Steve Harris 03-10-2003 08:26 PM

Squirrels
 
In article ,
(S.carolinensis) wrote:

I sometimes think we'd be better off back in the woods."


So we can agree on something!

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

Franz Heymann 03-10-2003 11:54 PM

Squirrels
 

"al" wrote in message
...
"Janice" wrote in message
news:871fb.5343$QH3.1710@newsfep4-

I wonder if setting a rat trap, baited with peanuts or similar, would

catch
them? Anyone know if that'd work?


Ewwwww ... but then I'd have to dispose of them!


They are eminently edible.

I just want to make my
garden a place they don't want to come to ...


Franz



Franz Heymann 04-10-2003 12:03 AM

Squirrels
 

"al" wrote in message
...
"Janice" wrote in message
news:871fb.5343$QH3.1710@newsfep4-

I wonder if setting a rat trap, baited with peanuts or similar, would

catch
them? Anyone know if that'd work?


Ewwwww ... but then I'd have to dispose of them!


They are eminently edible.

I just want to make my
garden a place they don't want to come to ...


Franz



Franz Heymann 04-10-2003 01:45 AM

Squirrels
 

"al" wrote in message
...
"Janice" wrote in message
news:871fb.5343$QH3.1710@newsfep4-

I wonder if setting a rat trap, baited with peanuts or similar, would

catch
them? Anyone know if that'd work?


Ewwwww ... but then I'd have to dispose of them!


They are eminently edible.

I just want to make my
garden a place they don't want to come to ...


Franz



Franz Heymann 04-10-2003 01:46 AM

Squirrels
 

"al" wrote in message
...
"Janice" wrote in message
news:871fb.5343$QH3.1710@newsfep4-

I wonder if setting a rat trap, baited with peanuts or similar, would

catch
them? Anyone know if that'd work?


Ewwwww ... but then I'd have to dispose of them!


They are eminently edible.

I just want to make my
garden a place they don't want to come to ...


Franz



Jaques d'Altrades 04-10-2003 02:36 AM

Squirrels
 
The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:
In article ,
al wrote:

But I don't have any nuts .... lol - yeah right, not going to walk
into that
one ;P


Yes, you need to be careful. Walking into things can definitely
cause a pain in the nuts.


But IIRC, al is of the female persuasion.....

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

William Tasso 04-10-2003 03:45 AM

Squirrels
 
al wrote:
Thirdly, pests as they
might be, I really don't want to execute them - just repulse them.


throw them over the fence then - let your neighbours deal with them.

they are vermin - they should be shot. I see there is already a recipie in
this thread.

toodle-pip
--
William Tasso




al 04-10-2003 04:02 PM

Squirrels
 
"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
Yes, you need to be careful. Walking into things can definitely
cause a pain in the nuts.


But IIRC, al is of the female persuasion.....


Errrrr ... I am .....!!?! *quick check of nuts* ..... phew ... still there
.....!




a



Jaques d'Altrades 04-10-2003 08:22 PM

Squirrels
 
The message
from "al" contains these words:
"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
Yes, you need to be careful. Walking into things can definitely
cause a pain in the nuts.


But IIRC, al is of the female persuasion.....


Errrrr ... I am .....!!?! *quick check of nuts* ..... phew ... still there
....!


Lens of telescope a bit dirty. Sorry.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

martin 04-10-2003 09:22 PM

Squirrels
 
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:29:04 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

The message
from "al" contains these words:
"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
Yes, you need to be careful. Walking into things can definitely
cause a pain in the nuts.

But IIRC, al is of the female persuasion.....


Errrrr ... I am .....!!?! *quick check of nuts* ..... phew ... still there
....!


Lens of telescope a bit dirty. Sorry.


which is not surprising considering where you have been putting it
--
Martin

Alan Holmes 05-10-2003 01:22 AM

Squirrels
 

"al" wrote in message
...
"Zipadee Doodar" wrote in message
...

What
attracts them to me?

Your nuts.

ZD


Yeah, OK, I can see this line of questioning is going to get me far! But
come on, why my garden? Why in grass? Why not in the bloody great park
behind my house!?

Also - general knowledge question on the little bushy rodents .... do they
hibernate and are they at all nocturnal?


They do hibernate and you should pray for a mild winter, the warm climate
wakes them too soon and they die off.

There is only one way to stop them and if you live near a park it will take
some time.

Get a rat/mink trap from Mole Valley farmers and drown the beggars as
described
by the Forestry Commision.

As I say, if you have a large number it will take time to reduce them.

The drowning, for those who may be squeamish. is very quick, an average of 8
seconds.

Alan
--
Reply to alan(at)windsor-berks(dot)freeserve(dot)co(dot)uk




Alan Holmes 05-10-2003 01:22 AM

Squirrels
 

"Janice" wrote in message
...
"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
Finally, I caught one of the little buggers at it -
it was a squirrel trying to bury a nut!!


I wonder if setting a rat trap, baited with peanuts or similar, would

catch
them? Anyone know if that'd work?


If you mean a break-back trap, then I would very much doubt that it would
work,
you will have to get a rat/mink trap from mole valley farmers. you don't
even
have to bait it, cover it so it looks like a tunnel, the silly beggars have
this desire
to go into tunnels.

Alan
--
Reply to alan(at)windsor-berks(dot)freeserve(dot)co(dot)uk




Alan Holmes 05-10-2003 01:26 AM

Squirrels
 

"al" wrote in message
...
"Zipadee Doodar" wrote in message
...

What
attracts them to me?

Your nuts.

ZD


Yeah, OK, I can see this line of questioning is going to get me far! But
come on, why my garden? Why in grass? Why not in the bloody great park
behind my house!?

Also - general knowledge question on the little bushy rodents .... do they
hibernate and are they at all nocturnal?


They do hibernate and you should pray for a mild winter, the warm climate
wakes them too soon and they die off.

There is only one way to stop them and if you live near a park it will take
some time.

Get a rat/mink trap from Mole Valley farmers and drown the beggars as
described
by the Forestry Commision.

As I say, if you have a large number it will take time to reduce them.

The drowning, for those who may be squeamish. is very quick, an average of 8
seconds.

Alan
--
Reply to alan(at)windsor-berks(dot)freeserve(dot)co(dot)uk




Alan Holmes 05-10-2003 01:26 AM

Squirrels
 

"Janice" wrote in message
...
"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
Finally, I caught one of the little buggers at it -
it was a squirrel trying to bury a nut!!


I wonder if setting a rat trap, baited with peanuts or similar, would

catch
them? Anyone know if that'd work?


If you mean a break-back trap, then I would very much doubt that it would
work,
you will have to get a rat/mink trap from mole valley farmers. you don't
even
have to bait it, cover it so it looks like a tunnel, the silly beggars have
this desire
to go into tunnels.

Alan
--
Reply to alan(at)windsor-berks(dot)freeserve(dot)co(dot)uk




Alan Holmes 05-10-2003 01:28 AM

Squirrels
 

"al" wrote in message
...
"Zipadee Doodar" wrote in message
...

What
attracts them to me?

Your nuts.

ZD


Yeah, OK, I can see this line of questioning is going to get me far! But
come on, why my garden? Why in grass? Why not in the bloody great park
behind my house!?

Also - general knowledge question on the little bushy rodents .... do they
hibernate and are they at all nocturnal?


They do hibernate and you should pray for a mild winter, the warm climate
wakes them too soon and they die off.

There is only one way to stop them and if you live near a park it will take
some time.

Get a rat/mink trap from Mole Valley farmers and drown the beggars as
described
by the Forestry Commision.

As I say, if you have a large number it will take time to reduce them.

The drowning, for those who may be squeamish. is very quick, an average of 8
seconds.

Alan
--
Reply to alan(at)windsor-berks(dot)freeserve(dot)co(dot)uk




Alan Holmes 05-10-2003 01:28 AM

Squirrels
 

"Janice" wrote in message
...
"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
Finally, I caught one of the little buggers at it -
it was a squirrel trying to bury a nut!!


I wonder if setting a rat trap, baited with peanuts or similar, would

catch
them? Anyone know if that'd work?


If you mean a break-back trap, then I would very much doubt that it would
work,
you will have to get a rat/mink trap from mole valley farmers. you don't
even
have to bait it, cover it so it looks like a tunnel, the silly beggars have
this desire
to go into tunnels.

Alan
--
Reply to alan(at)windsor-berks(dot)freeserve(dot)co(dot)uk





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