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Chris 24-10-2003 08:42 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
Please please help !!!!!!!!!!!

Yes our urban fox is a very sweet creature BUT NOT IN MY GARDEN
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are now over run with the buggers , well OK we have a regular 3 that I
know of, and they are wrecking the place not to mention the ghastly smell
:-(
How do I get rid of them or move them on , I have tried all the regular off the shelf stuff and they just laugh it off.

Its getting to the point where I wait by the back door and chase them off when I see them , but one cant do that all night. They are even getting cheeky enough to just casually walk off now when I shout at them , where as they use to scarper at first.

They just dig everything new I plant or grow up after just a few days the longest was a week , even if I try to fence it off it only lasts a few days or a week before the whole lots strewn round the lawn along with the plants. Then theres the lawn that kee
ps getting dug up , but we wont go there :-(

Why me !!!!!!!!!!!!

Any thoughts , is it just my garden they like or do they trash everyones ??????

Any help would be useful but I have tried all the normal stuff. It needs to be "RADICAL" I feel.

Cheers
Chris




David Hill 24-10-2003 09:02 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
"...........is it just my garden they like or do they trash everyone's ?
.............."

Up to 3 weeks ago I had a lawn but a mole and a very keen fox or two and now
almost 20% has been dug up, I have seen 2 of them at different times, one
almost chocolate with a black brush.
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk




Chris 24-10-2003 09:12 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
Ah so its not just my garden they like , so apart from the obvious which is
get my mate round with his shot gun ( ducks for incoming don't shoot our
fox's replies ) how can we stop the darn things or just make them go to
someone else's?????

Chris



David Hill wrote in message
...
"...........is it just my garden they like or do they trash everyone's ?
............."

Up to 3 weeks ago I had a lawn but a mole and a very keen fox or two and

now
almost 20% has been dug up, I have seen 2 of them at different times, one
almost chocolate with a black brush.
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk






Pam Moore 24-10-2003 09:22 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:42:15 +0100, "Chris"
wrote:

How do I get rid of them or move them on ,


Now I heard somewhere just recently that animals scent-mark their
territory with urine.
The way to beat them is to mark your territory with some of your own!
How you do that is up to you!
I'd like to know if it works, but have no foxes to test it on!
Good luck.

Pam in Bristol

Mary Fisher 24-10-2003 10:03 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:172423


Yes our urban fox is a very sweet creature BUT NOT IN MY GARDEN
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nor mine.

We've lost several hens to them. They didn't eat the hens, just killed them.
In the daytime. Always.


Its getting to the point where I wait by the back door and chase them off

when I see them , but one cant do that all night. They are even getting
cheeky enough to just casually walk off now when I shout at them , where as
they use to scarper at first.

Yes. They also come during the day, or when we're in the garden, and look
indignantly at us if we dare to walk towards them.


Why me !!!!!!!!!!!!


It's not just you.

Any thoughts , is it just my garden they like or do they trash everyones

??????

They didn't trash our garden but they caused a LOT of unhappiness. Our hens
are as precious to us as some people's dogs and cats are to them.

Any help would be useful but I have tried all the normal stuff. It needs

to be "RADICAL" I feel.

Renardine does work but you have to apply it very frequently and it becomes
expensive.

Man-made deterrent simply didn't work for us, despite everyone's claim that
it does.

The most prickly hedging was sneered at, thick fur coats is impervious to
hawthorn, berberis, holly, pyracantha and anything else you can name.
Believe me, we tried it all.

Because we're in the inner city we can't shoot them or call in the hunt. A
'humane' trap would only move the problem somewhere else.

Barbed wire along the tops of fencing was disdained.

Loose chicken netting along the top of fencing, might work, we never saw a
fox scale that. The idea is that even if they jump up to it the netting
won't hold their weight so they don't persist.

We had to make a high fence (two metres) of chain link supported by a steel
framework, which they couldn't scale. But neighbours' wooden fences with 3"
wide wooden cappings made it easy for these apparently circus-trained
acrobats to walk along and hop over our fence at the corner.

The answer was to weld thin upright steel rods, 3" apart, along the top of
the steel fence framework. They're about 18" high and to date (fingers
crossed) have done the dibs. We haven't had a hen killed in months. In fact
the foxes seem to have given up trying, we haven't seen one for ages.

The problem is that some neighbours like to see fox in their gardens and
encourage them. In some places - not ours - fox are attracted by dustbins
because of all the food which is discarded. Not only do we discard food but
our bins are fox-proof. But the myth that fox are fluffy wuffy nice ickle
animals persist among those who don't suffer from them.

Apart from a mechanical deterrent I can't help you - but I sympathise ...

Mary

Cheers
Chris






oldmolly 24-10-2003 10:22 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 

"Chris" wrote in message
...
Ah so its not just my garden they like , so apart from the obvious which

is
get my mate round with his shot gun ( ducks for incoming don't shoot our
fox's replies ) how can we stop the darn things or just make them go to
someone else's?????

You simply purchase a cheapo battery powered electric fence energiser and
run a strand of electric twine at about 10 - 12" from the ground. They will
only get zapped a couple of times before moving on to your neighbours land.
I have such a thing for sale if you are interested :0)



LordSnooty 24-10-2003 11:02 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:20:31 +0100, "oldmolly"
wrote:


"Chris" wrote in message
...
Ah so its not just my garden they like , so apart from the obvious which

is
get my mate round with his shot gun ( ducks for incoming don't shoot our
fox's replies ) how can we stop the darn things or just make them go to
someone else's?????

You simply purchase a cheapo battery powered electric fence energiser and
run a strand of electric twine at about 10 - 12" from the ground. They will
only get zapped a couple of times before moving on to your neighbours land.
I have such a thing for sale if you are interested :0)


Very, very effective they are too, and not just fo the foxes. See,
always a non lethal solution if you really can be bothered.







'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

Dave Liquorice 24-10-2003 11:22 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:19:31 +0100, Pam Moore wrote:

I'd like to know if it works, but have no foxes to test it on!

Pam in Bristol


I thought Bristol had one of the highest urban fox populations in the
country. When I lived there (Clifton) they where all over the place,
bold as brass.

As to the OPs problem foxes and cats don't get on but thats probably
as case of "out of the frying pan into the fire". I wonder if the
local enviromental health department can offer any advice?

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail




ned 24-10-2003 11:22 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
It's very re-assuring to hear that close proximity with Freddie tends
to change the 'common' view that he is a pretty, cuddly, colourful
addition to the landscape.

What bugs the country folk is that well meaning NIMBY townies have
actually been known to collect their urban rascals up and release them
in the country ......... and don't you rural thugs dare lay a finger
on them!!!!!

Yes. If you say so.

--
ned



Bob Hobden 24-10-2003 11:32 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 

"Chris" wrote in message...

Yes our urban fox is a very sweet creature BUT NOT IN MY GARDEN
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are now over run with the buggers , well OK we have a regular 3 that I
know of, and they are wrecking the place not to mention the ghastly smell
:-(
How do I get rid of them or move them on , I have tried all the regular

off the shelf stuff and they just laugh it off.

Its getting to the point where I wait by the back door and chase them off

when I see them , but one cant do that all night. They are even getting
cheeky enough to just casually walk off now when I shout at them , where as
they use to scarper at first.

They just dig everything new I plant or grow up after just a few days the

longest was a week , even if I try to fence it off it only lasts a few days
or a week before the whole lots strewn round the lawn along with the plants.
Then theres the lawn that keeps getting dug up , but we wont go there :-(

Why me !!!!!!!!!!!!

Any thoughts , is it just my garden they like or do they trash everyones

??????

Any help would be useful but I have tried all the normal stuff. It needs

to be "RADICAL" I feel.


Personally my family and I love our local allotment, we love it when they
try to use fleece or enviromesh because it's such fun to bounce around on
and rip up. Planted onion sets etc are also great fun to dig up and spread
around as are potatoes and then there is digging deep and burying something
juicy for the gardener to dig up later, like a dead rat or two gammons or
bad duck eggs, you should see his face when they turn up on the end of his
fork, such fun, we do laugh.
Now, for a good days sleep may I suggest a nice warm compost heap, solid
wooden walls lined with polystyrene full of slowly rotting greenstuff, keeps
me dry and warm no matter what the weather does. Of course you have to break
into it first and then will need to make sure nobody else tries to muscle in
so make sure it's well marked in the usual way, oh, and never bury your
crap, it adds something to the atmosphere of the place.

Basil.





David Hill 24-10-2003 11:32 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
"......... You simply purchase a cheapo battery powered electric fence
energiser and run a strand of electric twine at about 10 - 12" from the
ground. They will only get zapped a couple of times before moving on to your
neighbours land.
I have such a thing for sale if you are interested :0)..."
That's ok on a small garden but my boundary is around half to three quarters
of a mile and as well as foxes I also have badgers.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk




Pam Moore 24-10-2003 11:42 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:10:09 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

I thought Bristol had one of the highest urban fox populations in the
country. When I lived there (Clifton) they where all over the place,
bold as brass.


They died out a few years ago but are building up numbers again.
However I live outside Bristol and never see a fox here!

Pam in Bristol

LordSnooty 24-10-2003 11:42 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:17:26 +0100, "ned" wrote:

It's very re-assuring to hear that close proximity with Freddie tends
to change the 'common' view that he is a pretty, cuddly, colourful
addition to the landscape.


Most of us are quite happy to share our gardens with nature and all it
throws at us, wildlife in the garden is a big, big bonus and often
encouraged. It's only the selfish bigots who complain, but then they
shouldnt have a garden, they dont deserve one.

What bugs the country folk is that well meaning NIMBY townies have
actually been known to collect their urban rascals up and release them
in the country ......... and don't you rural thugs dare lay a finger
on them!!!!!


Indeed.

Yes. If you say so.


Indeed.





'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

Mary Fisher 24-10-2003 11:43 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 

Personally my family and I love our local allotment, we love it when they
try to use fleece or enviromesh because it's such fun to bounce around on
and rip up. Planted onion sets etc are also great fun to dig up and spread
around as are potatoes and then there is digging deep and burying

something
juicy for the gardener to dig up later, like a dead rat or two gammons or
bad duck eggs, you should see his face when they turn up on the end of his
fork, such fun, we do laugh.
Now, for a good days sleep may I suggest a nice warm compost heap, solid
wooden walls lined with polystyrene full of slowly rotting greenstuff,

keeps
me dry and warm no matter what the weather does. Of course you have to

break
into it first and then will need to make sure nobody else tries to muscle

in
so make sure it's well marked in the usual way, oh, and never bury your
crap, it adds something to the atmosphere of the place.

Basil.


You sleep during the day?

You obviously aren't posting from my part of the country.

Oh - you're Basil, sorry, our families are all called Charlie ...

Mary







LordSnooty 25-10-2003 12:03 AM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:25:40 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:


"Chris" wrote in message...

Yes our urban fox is a very sweet creature BUT NOT IN MY GARDEN
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are now over run with the buggers , well OK we have a regular 3 that I
know of, and they are wrecking the place not to mention the ghastly smell
:-(
How do I get rid of them or move them on , I have tried all the regular

off the shelf stuff and they just laugh it off.

Its getting to the point where I wait by the back door and chase them off

when I see them , but one cant do that all night. They are even getting
cheeky enough to just casually walk off now when I shout at them , where as
they use to scarper at first.

They just dig everything new I plant or grow up after just a few days the

longest was a week , even if I try to fence it off it only lasts a few days
or a week before the whole lots strewn round the lawn along with the plants.
Then theres the lawn that keeps getting dug up , but we wont go there :-(

Why me !!!!!!!!!!!!

Any thoughts , is it just my garden they like or do they trash everyones

??????

Any help would be useful but I have tried all the normal stuff. It needs

to be "RADICAL" I feel.


Personally my family and I love our local allotment, we love it when they
try to use fleece or enviromesh because it's such fun to bounce around on
and rip up. Planted onion sets etc are also great fun to dig up and spread
around as are potatoes and then there is digging deep and burying something
juicy for the gardener to dig up later, like a dead rat or two gammons or
bad duck eggs, you should see his face when they turn up on the end of his
fork, such fun, we do laugh.
Now, for a good days sleep may I suggest a nice warm compost heap, solid
wooden walls lined with polystyrene full of slowly rotting greenstuff, keeps
me dry and warm no matter what the weather does. Of course you have to break
into it first and then will need to make sure nobody else tries to muscle in
so make sure it's well marked in the usual way, oh, and never bury your
crap, it adds something to the atmosphere of the place.

Basil.


Disgusting, and people have the audacity to complain about foxes!!







'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

Jaques d'Altrades 25-10-2003 12:32 AM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
The message
from "Chris" contains these words:

Ah so its not just my garden they like , so apart from the obvious which is
get my mate round with his shot gun ( ducks for incoming don't shoot our
fox's replies ) how can we stop the darn things or just make them go to
someone else's?????


Ask your mate to bring his shotgun. Try to use nothing smaller than No.4 shot.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Janet Baraclough 25-10-2003 12:02 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
The message
from "Dave Liquorice" contains these words:

As to the OPs problem foxes and cats don't get on but thats probably
as case of "out of the frying pan into the fire".


LOL. My cousin's neighbour heard a rumpus of yips and squeaks in the
kitchen. A litter of foxcubs were playing happily, having followed the
cats in through the cat flap. The cats were sitting on the table
watching their empty food dish get chased round the floor.

Janet.


Derek Turner 25-10-2003 01:03 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:42:15 +0100, "Chris"
wrote:


Any help would be useful but I have tried all the normal stuff. It needs to be "RADICAL" I feel.


I find 36g of lead shot travelling at just over 1400 ft/sec works
well. Radical enough?

--
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LordSnooty 25-10-2003 03:32 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:57:47 +0100, Derek Turner
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:42:15 +0100, "Chris"
wrote:


Any help would be useful but I have tried all the normal stuff. It needs to be "RADICAL" I feel.


I find 36g of lead shot travelling at just over 1400 ft/sec works
well. Radical enough?


Certainly if it was aimed in your direction, perfect.

Prick troll.







'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

Pam Moore 25-10-2003 05:02 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
To get rid of foxes.................
.......................... call in the local hunt!

Not my idea, but heard on Radio 4 The Now Show at lunchtime today!

Sorry, the pee idea is better.

Pam in Bristol

K 25-10-2003 06:02 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 

"Derek Turner" wrote in message
...
: On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:42:15 +0100, "Chris"
: wrote:
:
:
: Any help would be useful but I have tried all the normal stuff. It needs
to be "RADICAL" I feel.
:
: I find 36g of lead shot travelling at just over 1400 ft/sec works
: well. Radical enough?
:
: --
: Derek Turner
:
Oh big man ... when you're behind it but probably very little man in front
of it.

K



Mary Fisher 25-10-2003 06:02 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 



"Pam Moore" wrote in message
...
To get rid of foxes.................
......................... call in the local hunt!

Not my idea, but heard on Radio 4 The Now Show at lunchtime today!

Sorry, the pee idea is better.


Except that it doesn't work.

Mary

Pam in Bristol




Pam Moore 25-10-2003 07:12 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:55:30 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

Sorry, the pee idea is better.

Except that it doesn't work.


Mary' have you tried it? LOL

Pam in Bristol

Jaques d'Altrades 25-10-2003 07:33 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
The message
from "Mary Fisher" contains these words:
"Pam Moore" wrote in message
...
To get rid of foxes.................
......................... call in the local hunt!

Not my idea, but heard on Radio 4 The Now Show at lunchtime today!

Sorry, the pee idea is better.


Except that it doesn't work.


Mary's right.

Despite my efforts on the compost heap a fox consumed a pigeon on it
this week.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Jason Pope 25-10-2003 09:02 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
Chris wrote:

Any thoughts , is it just my garden they like or do they trash everyones ??????

Any help would be useful but I have tried all the normal stuff. It needs to be "RADICAL" I feel.

Cheers
Chris




12 bore shotgun?
Maybe some of that "cat-off" stuff will work on them?

Jason

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Chris 25-10-2003 09:32 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 

oldmolly wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
...
Ah so its not just my garden they like , so apart from the obvious which

is
get my mate round with his shot gun ( ducks for incoming don't shoot our
fox's replies ) how can we stop the darn things or just make them go to
someone else's?????

You simply purchase a cheapo battery powered electric fence energiser and
run a strand of electric twine at about 10 - 12" from the ground. They

will
only get zapped a couple of times before moving on to your neighbours

land.
I have such a thing for sale if you are interested :0)



Looks like I might have started something here :-)

mmmm looks like the lecy fence idea may be a starter.

Just out of curisoity how much is your lecy fence and what does it come with
???

Chris

PS and where abouts are you , I am southcoast based .



Chris 25-10-2003 09:32 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 

Pam Moore wrote in message
...
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:42:15 +0100, "Chris"
wrote:

How do I get rid of them or move them on ,


Now I heard somewhere just recently that animals scent-mark their
territory with urine.
The way to beat them is to mark your territory with some of your own!
How you do that is up to you!
I'd like to know if it works, but have no foxes to test it on!
Good luck.

Pam in Bristol


Yes Pam , now I have heard that one as well, I did sort of try it for a few
days but it didnt seem to bother them that much and if anything it made them
spray more :-(

Chris



Chris 25-10-2003 09:42 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 

Mary Fisher wrote in message
t...

Yes our urban fox is a very sweet creature BUT NOT IN MY GARDEN
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nor mine.

We've lost several hens to them. They didn't eat the hens, just killed

them.
In the daytime. Always.


Our lot are now day time cruisers as well , scared ( well thats a bit
strong ) annoyed one today which was kipping in one of the flower beds.



Its getting to the point where I wait by the back door and chase them

off
when I see them , but one cant do that all night. They are even getting
cheeky enough to just casually walk off now when I shout at them , where

as
they use to scarper at first.

Yes. They also come during the day, or when we're in the garden, and look
indignantly at us if we dare to walk towards them.


Why me !!!!!!!!!!!!


It's not just you.


I was begining to think it was only my garden they trashed , neighbours say
they see them but never have any trouble!!!!!


Any thoughts , is it just my garden they like or do they trash everyones

??????

They didn't trash our garden but they caused a LOT of unhappiness. Our

hens
are as precious to us as some people's dogs and cats are to them.

Any help would be useful but I have tried all the normal stuff. It needs

to be "RADICAL" I feel.

Renardine does work but you have to apply it very frequently and it

becomes
expensive.


Been there, done that , I think they actually liked it !!!!!!!!


Man-made deterrent simply didn't work for us, despite everyone's claim

that
it does.

The most prickly hedging was sneered at, thick fur coats is impervious to
hawthorn, berberis, holly, pyracantha and anything else you can name.
Believe me, we tried it all.

Because we're in the inner city we can't shoot them or call in the hunt. A
'humane' trap would only move the problem somewhere else.

Barbed wire along the tops of fencing was disdained.

Loose chicken netting along the top of fencing, might work, we never saw a
fox scale that. The idea is that even if they jump up to it the netting
won't hold their weight so they don't persist.

We had to make a high fence (two metres) of chain link supported by a

steel
framework, which they couldn't scale. But neighbours' wooden fences with

3"
wide wooden cappings made it easy for these apparently circus-trained
acrobats to walk along and hop over our fence at the corner.

The answer was to weld thin upright steel rods, 3" apart, along the top of
the steel fence framework. They're about 18" high and to date (fingers
crossed) have done the dibs. We haven't had a hen killed in months. In

fact
the foxes seem to have given up trying, we haven't seen one for ages.

The problem is that some neighbours like to see fox in their gardens and
encourage them. In some places - not ours - fox are attracted by dustbins
because of all the food which is discarded. Not only do we discard food

but
our bins are fox-proof. But the myth that fox are fluffy wuffy nice ickle
animals persist among those who don't suffer from them.


Oh how true a word spoke ................. I was talking to a old lady today
and she was saying how sweet it was now her garden fox has had three cubs ,
she feeds them and they almost come in the house. But guess what they never
wreck her garden grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr




Apart from a mechanical deterrent I can't help you - but I sympathise ...


Thanks for the support though .

Chris



Mary

Cheers
Chris








Chris 25-10-2003 10:02 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 

Most of us are quite happy to share our gardens with nature and all it
throws at us, wildlife in the garden is a big, big bonus and often
encouraged. It's only the selfish bigots who complain, but then they
shouldnt have a garden, they dont deserve one.


Yes all very nice in a dream world Mr Snotty but let me pop round and have a
Cr*p in your lounge, tear your carpet up that you have just had put down, oh
and for good measure I will trash a few ornaments.
Don't get me wrong , I love wild life and positively encourage the birds
etc, but then that will start me on another problem which is the dam magpies
which are muscling in on the poor sparrows etc, the foxs were no trouble at
first, that was around 5yrs ago, they kept themselves to themselves now they
seem to outnumber the local cats and dogs !!!!



Jason Pope 26-10-2003 12:03 AM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
Chris wrote:
oldmolly wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
...

Ah so its not just my garden they like , so apart from the obvious which


is

get my mate round with his shot gun ( ducks for incoming don't shoot our
fox's replies ) how can we stop the darn things or just make them go to
someone else's?????


You simply purchase a cheapo battery powered electric fence energiser and
run a strand of electric twine at about 10 - 12" from the ground. They


will

only get zapped a couple of times before moving on to your neighbours


land.

I have such a thing for sale if you are interested :0)




Looks like I might have started something here :-)

mmmm looks like the lecy fence idea may be a starter.

Just out of curisoity how much is your lecy fence and what does it come with
???

Chris

PS and where abouts are you , I am southcoast based .



Erm, you could be opening yourself up to legal problems!
If someone was to come on your property and get shocked you could be sued!

Jason

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Sacha 26-10-2003 12:22 AM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
in article , Chris at
serve wrote on 24/10/03 8:42 pm:

Please please help !!!!!!!!!!!

Yes our urban fox is a very sweet creature BUT NOT IN MY GARDEN
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are now over run with the buggers , well OK we have a regular 3 that I
know of, and they are wrecking the place not to mention the ghastly smell
:-(
How do I get rid of them or move them on , I have tried all the regular off
the shelf stuff and they just laugh it off.

snip

You buy a fox trap, like the one I saw today in our local farm supply type
shop (Tuckers in Ashburton) and having trapped your fox, you shoot it.
What else would you do? Moving it on to be someone else's problem doesn't
seem right, does it? Sweet creature.
--

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Sacha 26-10-2003 12:32 AM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
in article , oldmolly at
wrote on 24/10/03 10:20 pm:


"Chris" wrote in message
...
Ah so its not just my garden they like , so apart from the obvious which

is
get my mate round with his shot gun ( ducks for incoming don't shoot our
fox's replies ) how can we stop the darn things or just make them go to
someone else's?????

You simply purchase a cheapo battery powered electric fence energiser and
run a strand of electric twine at about 10 - 12" from the ground. They will
only get zapped a couple of times before moving on to your neighbours land.
I have such a thing for sale if you are interested :0)


And the neighbour will then do what?
--

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(remove the 'x' to email me)



Jaques d'Altrades 26-10-2003 01:32 AM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
The message
from Jason Pope contains these words:

12 bore shotgun?
Maybe some of that "cat-off" stuff will work on them?


That's a novel idea - shoot them with cat-off. Then they fox off, you hope?

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Jaques d'Altrades 26-10-2003 01:32 AM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
The message
from "Chris" contains these words:
oldmolly wrote in message
...

I have such a thing for sale if you are interested :0)


Looks like I might have started something here :-)


mmmm looks like the lecy fence idea may be a starter.


Just out of curisoity how much is your lecy fence and what does it come with
???


Our local gamekeeper keeps them out of his laying pens with a two-strand
fence.

--
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horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Jaques d'Altrades 26-10-2003 01:32 AM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
The message
from Jason Pope contains these words:

Erm, you could be opening yourself up to legal problems!
If someone was to come on your property and get shocked you could be sued!


? Sued for what? If someone were silly enough to be shocked and sue,
they might win ten pence in damages and run up hundreds of pounds costs.

Only in Mercadia......

--
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horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

LordSnooty 26-10-2003 03:01 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:51:46 +0100, "Chris"
wrote:


Most of us are quite happy to share our gardens with nature and all it
throws at us, wildlife in the garden is a big, big bonus and often
encouraged. It's only the selfish bigots who complain, but then they
shouldnt have a garden, they dont deserve one.


Yes all very nice in a dream world Mr Snotty but let me pop round and have a
Cr*p in your lounge, tear your carpet up that you have just had put down, oh
and for good measure I will trash a few ornaments.


Why do you let foxes in your lounge, can you not just close the door
Mrs Fish?

Don't get me wrong , I love wild life and positively encourage the birds
etc, but then that will start me on another problem which is the dam magpies
which are muscling in on the poor sparrows etc,


You are completely mistaken, blind and stupid. Magpies do not muscle
in on anything, they happily coexist with much wildlife, here we can
often see magpie and sparrow in the same tree.

the foxs were no trouble at
first, that was around 5yrs ago, they kept themselves to themselves now they
seem to outnumber the local cats and dogs !!!!


Learn to adapt or die like the dinosaurs. If you live in a glass
house, you don't buy a bull.

Are you people really so stupid or you just taking the ****?








'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

LordSnooty 26-10-2003 03:01 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:51:46 +0100, "Chris"
wrote:


Most of us are quite happy to share our gardens with nature and all it
throws at us, wildlife in the garden is a big, big bonus and often
encouraged. It's only the selfish bigots who complain, but then they
shouldnt have a garden, they dont deserve one.


Yes all very nice in a dream world Mr Snotty but let me pop round and have a
Cr*p in your lounge, tear your carpet up that you have just had put down, oh
and for good measure I will trash a few ornaments.


Why do you let foxes in your lounge, can you not just close the door
Mrs Fish?

Don't get me wrong , I love wild life and positively encourage the birds
etc, but then that will start me on another problem which is the dam magpies
which are muscling in on the poor sparrows etc,


You are completely mistaken, blind and stupid. Magpies do not muscle
in on anything, they happily coexist with much wildlife, here we can
often see magpie and sparrow in the same tree.

the foxs were no trouble at
first, that was around 5yrs ago, they kept themselves to themselves now they
seem to outnumber the local cats and dogs !!!!


Learn to adapt or die like the dinosaurs. If you live in a glass
house, you don't buy a bull.

Are you people really so stupid or you just taking the ****?








'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

LordSnooty 26-10-2003 03:01 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:51:46 +0100, "Chris"
wrote:


Most of us are quite happy to share our gardens with nature and all it
throws at us, wildlife in the garden is a big, big bonus and often
encouraged. It's only the selfish bigots who complain, but then they
shouldnt have a garden, they dont deserve one.


Yes all very nice in a dream world Mr Snotty but let me pop round and have a
Cr*p in your lounge, tear your carpet up that you have just had put down, oh
and for good measure I will trash a few ornaments.


Why do you let foxes in your lounge, can you not just close the door
Mrs Fish?

Don't get me wrong , I love wild life and positively encourage the birds
etc, but then that will start me on another problem which is the dam magpies
which are muscling in on the poor sparrows etc,


You are completely mistaken, blind and stupid. Magpies do not muscle
in on anything, they happily coexist with much wildlife, here we can
often see magpie and sparrow in the same tree.

the foxs were no trouble at
first, that was around 5yrs ago, they kept themselves to themselves now they
seem to outnumber the local cats and dogs !!!!


Learn to adapt or die like the dinosaurs. If you live in a glass
house, you don't buy a bull.

Are you people really so stupid or you just taking the ****?








'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

LordSnooty 26-10-2003 03:01 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:51:46 +0100, "Chris"
wrote:


Most of us are quite happy to share our gardens with nature and all it
throws at us, wildlife in the garden is a big, big bonus and often
encouraged. It's only the selfish bigots who complain, but then they
shouldnt have a garden, they dont deserve one.


Yes all very nice in a dream world Mr Snotty but let me pop round and have a
Cr*p in your lounge, tear your carpet up that you have just had put down, oh
and for good measure I will trash a few ornaments.


Why do you let foxes in your lounge, can you not just close the door
Mrs Fish?

Don't get me wrong , I love wild life and positively encourage the birds
etc, but then that will start me on another problem which is the dam magpies
which are muscling in on the poor sparrows etc,


You are completely mistaken, blind and stupid. Magpies do not muscle
in on anything, they happily coexist with much wildlife, here we can
often see magpie and sparrow in the same tree.

the foxs were no trouble at
first, that was around 5yrs ago, they kept themselves to themselves now they
seem to outnumber the local cats and dogs !!!!


Learn to adapt or die like the dinosaurs. If you live in a glass
house, you don't buy a bull.

Are you people really so stupid or you just taking the ****?








'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

LordSnooty 26-10-2003 03:01 PM

Fox's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
 
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:26:36 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

in article , Chris at
wrote on 24/10/03 8:42 pm:

Please please help !!!!!!!!!!!

Yes our urban fox is a very sweet creature BUT NOT IN MY GARDEN
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are now over run with the buggers , well OK we have a regular 3 that I
know of, and they are wrecking the place not to mention the ghastly smell
:-(
How do I get rid of them or move them on , I have tried all the regular off
the shelf stuff and they just laugh it off.

snip

You buy a fox trap, like the one I saw today in our local farm supply type
shop (Tuckers in Ashburton) and having trapped your fox, you shoot it.


Which in turn encourages a population explosion in the fox birth rate,
it could well explain the problems people have with numbers of foxes
on the up and up constantly. It's called the rebound effect, wildlife
will breed within it's means, if you keep killing them, they will keep
breeding at maximum rate, so you kill more and they breed more.

The solution is to stop killing them, let the population stabilize,
and live with them like you should be doing anyway. Birth control is
also very effective on wild animals, it controls populations whilst
not causing a hike in breeding rates.

All quite logical if people were not quite as dumb as they sound.








'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/


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