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norfolk dumplin 12-11-2003 11:54 AM

honey fungus
 
Ihave a bad dose of honey fungus all around an old tree stump so far nothing seems to kill it the toadstools are in a large solid mass, would burning them control the spread?, we are really running out of ideas,the stump is about four foot high and three foot circumference, we have been using it as a bird table since it was cut down two years ago it was a twenty foot plus tree, hope someone can come up with a solution, apart from hiring a tree specialist to remove it thanks.

PK 12-11-2003 12:43 PM

honey fungus
 
norfolk dumplin wrote:
Ihave a bad dose of honey fungus all around an old tree stump so far
nothing seems to kill it the toadstools are in a large solid mass,
would burning them control the spread?, we are really running out of
ideas,the stump is about four foot high and three foot circumference,
we have been using it as a bird table since it was cut down two years
ago it was a twenty foot plus tree, hope someone can come up with a
solution, apart from hiring a tree specialist to remove it thanks.


Honey fungus spreads by underground rhizomorphs (bootlaces). It finds a
tree, enters via the collar at gound/soil juction, kills the tree then uses
the dead wood as a sugar (food) source while it forages on via more
bootlaces. Or it finds a lump of dead tree and uses it in the same way.

Spotted your error yet?

To avoid a potential honey fungus problem in an area where it is endemic,
the best advice is to grub up tree stumps with as much root as possible.

pk



Jaques d'Alltrades 12-11-2003 01:35 PM

honey fungus
 
The message m
from norfolk dumplin
contains these words:

Ihave a bad dose of honey fungus all around an old tree stump so far
nothing seems to kill it the toadstools are in a large solid mass,
would burning them control the spread?, we are really running out of
ideas,the stump is about four foot high and three foot circumference,
we have been using it as a bird table since it was cut down two years
ago it was a twenty foot plus tree, hope someone can come up with a
solution, apart from hiring a tree specialist to remove it thanks.


Best to leave it and harvest the young caps, which are very tasty.
However, be sure you do have honey fungus.....

Whereabouts are you? (In Dumplingland)

--
Rusty Hinge - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (Also in Dumplingland)
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Kay Easton 12-11-2003 05:49 PM

honey fungus
 
In article , PK
writes
norfolk dumplin wrote:
Ihave a bad dose of honey fungus all around an old tree stump so far
nothing seems to kill it the toadstools are in a large solid mass,
would burning them control the spread?, we are really running out of
ideas,the stump is about four foot high and three foot circumference,
we have been using it as a bird table since it was cut down two years
ago it was a twenty foot plus tree, hope someone can come up with a
solution, apart from hiring a tree specialist to remove it thanks.


Honey fungus spreads by underground rhizomorphs (bootlaces). It finds a
tree, enters via the collar at gound/soil juction, kills the tree then uses
the dead wood as a sugar (food) source while it forages on via more
bootlaces. Or it finds a lump of dead tree and uses it in the same way.

It's one of our commonest fungi. How come there are still trees in the
UK? ;-)

--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Kay Easton 12-11-2003 05:49 PM

honey fungus
 
In article , PK
writes
norfolk dumplin wrote:
Ihave a bad dose of honey fungus all around an old tree stump so far
nothing seems to kill it the toadstools are in a large solid mass,
would burning them control the spread?, we are really running out of
ideas,the stump is about four foot high and three foot circumference,
we have been using it as a bird table since it was cut down two years
ago it was a twenty foot plus tree, hope someone can come up with a
solution, apart from hiring a tree specialist to remove it thanks.


Honey fungus spreads by underground rhizomorphs (bootlaces). It finds a
tree, enters via the collar at gound/soil juction, kills the tree then uses
the dead wood as a sugar (food) source while it forages on via more
bootlaces. Or it finds a lump of dead tree and uses it in the same way.

It's one of our commonest fungi. How come there are still trees in the
UK? ;-)

--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Mary Fisher 12-11-2003 06:13 PM

honey fungus
 

Honey fungus spreads by underground rhizomorphs (bootlaces). It finds a
tree, enters via the collar at gound/soil juction, kills the tree then

uses
the dead wood as a sugar (food) source while it forages on via more
bootlaces. Or it finds a lump of dead tree and uses it in the same way.

It's one of our commonest fungi. How come there are still trees in the
UK? ;-)


I think - as I suspect you do - that it only attacks dead trees.

That's been our experience.

It's not in any parasite's interest to kill all potential hosts.

Mary

--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm




Franz Heymann 12-11-2003 07:23 PM

honey fungus
 

"norfolk dumplin" wrote in
message s.com...
Ihave a bad dose of honey fungus all around an old tree stump so far
nothing seems to kill it the toadstools are in a large solid mass,
would burning them control the spread?, we are really running out of
ideas,the stump is about four foot high and three foot circumference,
we have been using it as a bird table since it was cut down two years
ago it was a twenty foot plus tree, hope someone can come up with a
solution, apart from hiring a tree specialist to remove it thanks.


What's the worry? The stump is going to succumb to some fungus or other ,
so it might as well be honry fungus.

Besides, honeyfungus is said to be a delicacy. But please make quite
certain that it is honeyfungus you have. The underground bootlaces are
diagnostic.

Franz

Franz




Franz Heymann 12-11-2003 07:33 PM

honey fungus
 

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
et...

Honey fungus spreads by underground rhizomorphs (bootlaces). It finds a
tree, enters via the collar at gound/soil juction, kills the tree then

uses
the dead wood as a sugar (food) source while it forages on via more
bootlaces. Or it finds a lump of dead tree and uses it in the same way.

It's one of our commonest fungi. How come there are still trees in the
UK? ;-)


I think - as I suspect you do - that it only attacks dead trees.

That's been our experience.

It's not in any parasite's interest to kill all potential hosts.


Unless it can thrive on the dead host as well. {:-))

Franz



Mary Fisher 12-11-2003 07:43 PM

honey fungus
 





"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
et...

Honey fungus spreads by underground rhizomorphs (bootlaces). It finds

a
tree, enters via the collar at gound/soil juction, kills the tree

then
uses
the dead wood as a sugar (food) source while it forages on via more
bootlaces. Or it finds a lump of dead tree and uses it in the same

way.

It's one of our commonest fungi. How come there are still trees in the
UK? ;-)


I think - as I suspect you do - that it only attacks dead trees.

That's been our experience.

It's not in any parasite's interest to kill all potential hosts.


Unless it can thrive on the dead host as well. {:-))


Then it's a saprophite.

Saprophyte?

Oh it's a long time ago ...

Mary

Franz





Franz Heymann 12-11-2003 09:43 PM

honey fungus
 

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
et...





"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
et...

Honey fungus spreads by underground rhizomorphs (bootlaces). It

finds
a
tree, enters via the collar at gound/soil juction, kills the tree

then
uses
the dead wood as a sugar (food) source while it forages on via more
bootlaces. Or it finds a lump of dead tree and uses it in the same

way.

It's one of our commonest fungi. How come there are still trees in

the
UK? ;-)

I think - as I suspect you do - that it only attacks dead trees.

That's been our experience.

It's not in any parasite's interest to kill all potential hosts.


Unless it can thrive on the dead host as well. {:-))


Then it's a saprophite.

Saprophyte?

Oh it's a long time ago ...


....phyte.

But my understanding is that honey fungus can invade both living and dead
plants.

Franz



Kay Easton 12-11-2003 10:44 PM

honey fungus
 
In article , Franz Heymann
writes

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
. net...

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
et...

Honey fungus spreads by underground rhizomorphs (bootlaces). It

finds
a
tree, enters via the collar at gound/soil juction, kills the tree

then
uses
the dead wood as a sugar (food) source while it forages on via more
bootlaces. Or it finds a lump of dead tree and uses it in the same

way.

It's one of our commonest fungi. How come there are still trees in

the
UK? ;-)

I think - as I suspect you do - that it only attacks dead trees.

That's been our experience.

It's not in any parasite's interest to kill all potential hosts.

Unless it can thrive on the dead host as well. {:-))


Then it's a saprophite.

Saprophyte?

Oh it's a long time ago ...


...phyte.

But my understanding is that honey fungus can invade both living and dead
plants.

Yes, mine too. But if it's as invasive as suggested, why is it not a
problem in our woodlands?
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

PK 13-11-2003 12:03 AM

honey fungus
 
Kay Easton wrote:
In article , PK
writes
norfolk dumplin wrote:
Ihave a bad dose of honey fungus all around an old tree stump so far
nothing seems to kill it the toadstools are in a large solid mass,
would burning them control the spread?, we are really running out of
ideas,the stump is about four foot high and three foot
circumference, we have been using it as a bird table since it was
cut down two years ago it was a twenty foot plus tree, hope someone
can come up with a solution, apart from hiring a tree specialist to
remove it thanks.


Honey fungus spreads by underground rhizomorphs (bootlaces). It
finds a tree, enters via the collar at gound/soil juction, kills the
tree then uses the dead wood as a sugar (food) source while it
forages on via more bootlaces. Or it finds a lump of dead tree and
uses it in the same way.

It's one of our commonest fungi. How come there are still trees in the
UK? ;-



It's endemic in woodalnd and a natural part of the life/death cycle.

Problem is, by definition, in gardens we are trying to bend nature to our
will and whim not allow it to follow it's natural path. If we want to put in
gardens plants which nature has selected out of regions with endemic honey
fungus or varieties which we hace selected for their pretty form but ignored
other aspects such as HF susecptibility, then we need to take
special/extraordianry measures to stop nature having it all its own way. A
bit like removing suckers from roses, bending nature to our will not letting
the plant revert.

pk



PK 13-11-2003 12:03 AM

honey fungus
 
Mary Fisher wrote:
Honey fungus spreads by underground rhizomorphs (bootlaces). It
finds a tree, enters via the collar at gound/soil juction, kills
the tree then uses the dead wood as a sugar (food) source while it
forages on via more bootlaces. Or it finds a lump of dead tree and
uses it in the same way.

It's one of our commonest fungi. How come there are still trees in
the UK? ;-)


I think - as I suspect you do - that it only attacks dead trees.

That's been our experience.

It's not in any parasite's interest to kill all potential hosts.



Ah, but it is. All the HF wants is a new temporary sugar source to use to
leapfrog to the next victim.

You migh well only see the fruiting bodies at the base of dead treess but
the deadly stuff has been done long before the stuff fruits. Aht killed the
tree?


pk



PK 13-11-2003 12:03 AM

honey fungus
 
Kay Easton wrote:
Yes, mine too. But if it's as invasive as suggested, why is it not a
problem in our woodlands?


See above, its part of the natural cycle like all/most diseases.

pk



Franz Heymann 13-11-2003 09:32 AM

honey fungus
 

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Franz Heymann
writes

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
. net...

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
et...

Honey fungus spreads by underground rhizomorphs (bootlaces). It

finds
a
tree, enters via the collar at gound/soil juction, kills the

tree
then
uses
the dead wood as a sugar (food) source while it forages on via

more
bootlaces. Or it finds a lump of dead tree and uses it in the

same
way.

It's one of our commonest fungi. How come there are still trees

in
the
UK? ;-)

I think - as I suspect you do - that it only attacks dead trees.

That's been our experience.

It's not in any parasite's interest to kill all potential hosts.

Unless it can thrive on the dead host as well. {:-))

Then it's a saprophite.

Saprophyte?

Oh it's a long time ago ...


...phyte.

But my understanding is that honey fungus can invade both living and dead
plants.

Yes, mine too. But if it's as invasive as suggested, why is it not a
problem in our woodlands?


I think the reason is that it can invade a live plant only through a surface
wound

Franz




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