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CW 21-11-2003 01:14 AM

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Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis .

Peter Crosland 21-11-2003 07:22 AM

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Don't get caught!




Cerumen 21-11-2003 11:02 AM

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"CW" wrote in message
om...
Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis .

It grows very easily and was at one time widespread in the wild in Uk.
best tip however is don't get caught.
--
Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland





Jaques d'Alltrades 21-11-2003 11:12 AM

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The message
from CW contains these words:

Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis .


Yes.

Don't.

--
Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

martin 21-11-2003 11:24 AM

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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:07:22 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from CW contains these words:

Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis .


Yes.

Don't.


inhale?
--
Martin

Steve Harris 21-11-2003 11:42 AM

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In article ,
LID (CW) wrote:

Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis .


Emigrate to somewhere where it's legal? :-)
Noway is good for Trolls :-)

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

Synaptic Flow 21-11-2003 12:32 PM

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"Steve Harris" wrote in message
...
In article ,
LID (CW) wrote:

Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis .


Emigrate to somewhere where it's legal? :-)
Noway is good for Trolls :-)

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com


Try
www.ukcia.org if the info you need isn't there, they've good links



CW 21-11-2003 12:42 PM

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uk.rec.gardening , Jaques d'Alltrades ,

Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis .


Yes.

Don't.


Thank you for your zen wisdom on the subject .


--
http://www.cannabiswindow.co.uk

David Hill 21-11-2003 01:03 PM

Cannabis Growing
 
"...... Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis ........."

I have to presume you want to grow it for it's fibre, then the first thing
is to get a licence........ It's now a legal crop for fibre production..
I just wonder what happens when you burn the waste from the crop, leaves etc
after harvest.
I presume you don't stand down wind.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk




BAC 21-11-2003 01:22 PM

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"David Hill" wrote in message
...
"...... Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis ........."

I have to presume you want to grow it for it's fibre, then the first thing
is to get a licence........ It's now a legal crop for fibre production..
I just wonder what happens when you burn the waste from the crop, leaves

etc
after harvest.
I presume you don't stand down wind.


Probably not, since THC, the 'active ingredient' is at low levels (0.3% or
less) in 'legal' varieties.



Jaques d'Alltrades 21-11-2003 02:13 PM

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The message
from "David Hill" contains these
words:

"...... Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis ........."


I have to presume you want to grow it for it's fibre, then the first thing
is to get a licence........ It's now a legal crop for fibre production..
I just wonder what happens when you burn the waste from the crop, leaves etc
after harvest.
I presume you don't stand down wind.


I believe that the active ingredient is either negligible or nonexistant
in the commercial fibre variety.

It has emerged that teenage smokers of cannabis can contract a type of
dementia. (IIRC, You And Yours, BBC R4 - was this week, I think, so
ought to be extant on their wibble)

--
Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

martin 21-11-2003 02:22 PM

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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:06:30 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from "David Hill" contains these
words:

"...... Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis ........."


I have to presume you want to grow it for it's fibre, then the first thing
is to get a licence........ It's now a legal crop for fibre production..
I just wonder what happens when you burn the waste from the crop, leaves etc
after harvest.
I presume you don't stand down wind.


I believe that the active ingredient is either negligible or nonexistant
in the commercial fibre variety.

It has emerged that teenage smokers of cannabis can contract a type of
dementia. (IIRC, You And Yours, BBC R4 - was this week, I think, so
ought to be extant on their wibble)


Millions die from smoking tobacco without ever reaching the age for
senile dementia.

I neither smoke, nor advocate smoking either.
--
Martin

Ophelia 21-11-2003 02:22 PM

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"martin" wrote in message

I neither smoke, nor advocate smoking either.


I hate smoking but I fear dementia may be setting in anyway......... well it
could be the bats:)

O




Franz Heymann 21-11-2003 04:07 PM

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"Ophelia" wrote in message
...

"martin" wrote in message

I neither smoke, nor advocate smoking either.


I hate smoking but I fear dementia may be setting in anyway......... well

it
could be the bats:)


They call it "graceful maturation"

Franz



Franz Heymann 21-11-2003 04:18 PM

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"BAC" wrote in message
...

"David Hill" wrote in message
...
"...... Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis ........."

I have to presume you want to grow it for it's fibre, then the first

thing
is to get a licence........ It's now a legal crop for fibre production..
I just wonder what happens when you burn the waste from the crop, leaves

etc
after harvest.
I presume you don't stand down wind.


Probably not, since THC, the 'active ingredient' is at low levels (0.3% or
less) in 'legal' varieties.


In what way would the legal variety be distinguishable from the illegal one,
to the eyes of a prying officialdom?

Franz



Franz Heymann 21-11-2003 04:27 PM

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"Ophelia" wrote in message
...

"martin" wrote in message

I neither smoke, nor advocate smoking either.


I hate smoking but I fear dementia may be setting in anyway......... well

it
could be the bats:)


They call it "graceful maturation"

Franz



martin 21-11-2003 04:28 PM

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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:00:03 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"BAC" wrote in message
...

"David Hill" wrote in message
...
"...... Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis ........."

I have to presume you want to grow it for it's fibre, then the first

thing
is to get a licence........ It's now a legal crop for fibre production..
I just wonder what happens when you burn the waste from the crop, leaves

etc
after harvest.
I presume you don't stand down wind.


Probably not, since THC, the 'active ingredient' is at low levels (0.3% or
less) in 'legal' varieties.


In what way would the legal variety be distinguishable from the illegal one,
to the eyes of a prying officialdom?


A good question! 5 years ago there was about 3 acres growing between
the K&A canal and the railway track between Reading and Aldermarston.
--
Martin

Franz Heymann 21-11-2003 04:29 PM

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"BAC" wrote in message
...

"David Hill" wrote in message
...
"...... Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis ........."

I have to presume you want to grow it for it's fibre, then the first

thing
is to get a licence........ It's now a legal crop for fibre production..
I just wonder what happens when you burn the waste from the crop, leaves

etc
after harvest.
I presume you don't stand down wind.


Probably not, since THC, the 'active ingredient' is at low levels (0.3% or
less) in 'legal' varieties.


In what way would the legal variety be distinguishable from the illegal one,
to the eyes of a prying officialdom?

Franz



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Franz Heymann wrote:
"BAC" wrote in message


Probably not, since THC, the 'active ingredient' is at low levels (0.3% or
less) in 'legal' varieties.



In what way would the legal variety be distinguishable from the illegal one,
to the eyes of a prying officialdom?


Smell, certainly. But the main way an official can tell if a crop is
legal or not, is that you must have a licence to grow it. If you don't
have a licence, pack your steel-seated pajamas, you're off to prison.


martin 21-11-2003 04:29 PM

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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:00:03 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"BAC" wrote in message
...

"David Hill" wrote in message
...
"...... Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis ........."

I have to presume you want to grow it for it's fibre, then the first

thing
is to get a licence........ It's now a legal crop for fibre production..
I just wonder what happens when you burn the waste from the crop, leaves

etc
after harvest.
I presume you don't stand down wind.


Probably not, since THC, the 'active ingredient' is at low levels (0.3% or
less) in 'legal' varieties.


In what way would the legal variety be distinguishable from the illegal one,
to the eyes of a prying officialdom?


A good question! 5 years ago there was about 3 acres growing between
the K&A canal and the railway track between Reading and Aldermarston.
--
Martin

bigboard 21-11-2003 04:29 PM

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Franz Heymann wrote:
"BAC" wrote in message


Probably not, since THC, the 'active ingredient' is at low levels (0.3% or
less) in 'legal' varieties.



In what way would the legal variety be distinguishable from the illegal one,
to the eyes of a prying officialdom?


Smell, certainly. But the main way an official can tell if a crop is
legal or not, is that you must have a licence to grow it. If you don't
have a licence, pack your steel-seated pajamas, you're off to prison.


Franz Heymann 21-11-2003 04:30 PM

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"martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:00:03 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"BAC" wrote in message
...

"David Hill" wrote in message
...
"...... Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis ........."

I have to presume you want to grow it for it's fibre, then the first

thing
is to get a licence........ It's now a legal crop for fibre

production..
I just wonder what happens when you burn the waste from the crop,

leaves
etc
after harvest.
I presume you don't stand down wind.


Probably not, since THC, the 'active ingredient' is at low levels (0.3%

or
less) in 'legal' varieties.


In what way would the legal variety be distinguishable from the illegal

one,
to the eyes of a prying officialdom?


A good question! 5 years ago there was about 3 acres growing between
the K&A canal and the railway track between Reading and Aldermarston.


Has it now been converted into coal bags or smokables?

Franz



martin 21-11-2003 04:43 PM

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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:21:48 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"martin" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:00:03 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"BAC" wrote in message
...

"David Hill" wrote in message
...
"...... Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis ........."

I have to presume you want to grow it for it's fibre, then the first
thing
is to get a licence........ It's now a legal crop for fibre

production..
I just wonder what happens when you burn the waste from the crop,

leaves
etc
after harvest.
I presume you don't stand down wind.


Probably not, since THC, the 'active ingredient' is at low levels (0.3%

or
less) in 'legal' varieties.

In what way would the legal variety be distinguishable from the illegal

one,
to the eyes of a prying officialdom?


A good question! 5 years ago there was about 3 acres growing between
the K&A canal and the railway track between Reading and Aldermarston.


Has it now been converted into coal bags or smokables?


I don't know. We noticed from a boat, but didn't stop. I thought I was
hallucinating. I have lived in NL for decades and had never seen any
cultivated openly in fields before.

It's purpose was discussed on URW at the time AFAIR. it was probably a
GM experiment based on the amount of stray plutonium in the area.
--
Martin

Jaques d'Alltrades 21-11-2003 05:59 PM

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The message
from martin contains these words:

It has emerged that teenage smokers of cannabis can contract a type of
dementia. (IIRC, You And Yours, BBC R4 - was this week, I think, so
ought to be extant on their wibble)


Millions die from smoking tobacco without ever reaching the age for
senile dementia.


The word senile wasn't mentioned. Cannabis dementia can set in during
late teens.

--
Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

Franz Heymann 21-11-2003 06:01 PM

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"bigboard" wrote in message
...
Franz Heymann wrote:
"BAC" wrote in message


Probably not, since THC, the 'active ingredient' is at low levels (0.3%

or
less) in 'legal' varieties.



In what way would the legal variety be distinguishable from the illegal

one,
to the eyes of a prying officialdom?


Smell, certainly. But the main way an official can tell if a crop is
legal or not, is that you must have a licence to grow it. If you don't
have a licence, pack your steel-seated pajamas, you're off to prison.


By smelling a growing plant, or by burning a dried leaf?
I was just pondering on how they would catch a grower with a licence who
surreptitiously has a few of the smoking variey here and there in his plot
of the legal variety.
I have no intention of experimenting. I am far too scared of the law to
bother.

Franz




Jaques d'Alltrades 21-11-2003 06:10 PM

Cannabis Growing
 
The message
from martin contains these words:

It has emerged that teenage smokers of cannabis can contract a type of
dementia. (IIRC, You And Yours, BBC R4 - was this week, I think, so
ought to be extant on their wibble)


Millions die from smoking tobacco without ever reaching the age for
senile dementia.


The word senile wasn't mentioned. Cannabis dementia can set in during
late teens.

--
Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

Franz Heymann 21-11-2003 06:10 PM

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"bigboard" wrote in message
...
Franz Heymann wrote:
"BAC" wrote in message


Probably not, since THC, the 'active ingredient' is at low levels (0.3%

or
less) in 'legal' varieties.



In what way would the legal variety be distinguishable from the illegal

one,
to the eyes of a prying officialdom?


Smell, certainly. But the main way an official can tell if a crop is
legal or not, is that you must have a licence to grow it. If you don't
have a licence, pack your steel-seated pajamas, you're off to prison.


By smelling a growing plant, or by burning a dried leaf?
I was just pondering on how they would catch a grower with a licence who
surreptitiously has a few of the smoking variey here and there in his plot
of the legal variety.
I have no intention of experimenting. I am far too scared of the law to
bother.

Franz




Nick Maclaren 21-11-2003 06:11 PM

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In article ,
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
The message
from martin contains these words:

It has emerged that teenage smokers of cannabis can contract a type of
dementia. (IIRC, You And Yours, BBC R4 - was this week, I think, so
ought to be extant on their wibble)


Millions die from smoking tobacco without ever reaching the age for
senile dementia.


The word senile wasn't mentioned. Cannabis dementia can set in during
late teens.


Well, anti-cannabis dementia certainly can. Do you know the story of
the boy who cried "wolf"?

While it is POSSIBLE that such a thing can happen, I am thoroughly
disinclined to believe ANY anti-cannabis story dreamt up by either
the political or the medical establishment. I have heard just too
many of them that have proved to be more-or-less complete nonsense.
If any independent evidence emerges, it might be worth listening to,
but I can no longer be bothered even to check if that counts as
independent. No, I don't smoke it.

For comparison, food additive dementia hit at weaning, and affected
about 2% of children, but that was not regarded as serious enough
to take action by our Lords and Masters. Thank God for the EU.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Ophelia 21-11-2003 06:11 PM

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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...

"martin" wrote in message

I neither smoke, nor advocate smoking either.


I hate smoking but I fear dementia may be setting in anyway.........

well
it
could be the bats:)


They call it "graceful maturation"


ahhhh Franz.. you are too kind:))




Pam Moore 21-11-2003 06:12 PM

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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:16:21 -0000, CW
wrote:

Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis .


I would like to hear more relevant answers to the OP's question.

I did grow some 30 years ago when the seeds were sold in Dobies
catalogue. If I recall they grew to about 5 - 6 feet high. I think I
just composted them at the end of summer, not knowing what to do with
them.
What would have happened if I had left them? they are not frost hardy
are they?

Also, what is the difference between the plants grown for leaves and
those for fibre? What about the flowers? Are they used also? I'm
innocent of these things, just curious.

Pam in Bristol

CW 21-11-2003 06:32 PM

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uk.rec.gardening , Pam Moore ,

Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis .


I would like to hear more relevant answers to the OP's question.

I did grow some 30 years ago when the seeds were sold in Dobies
catalogue. If I recall they grew to about 5 - 6 feet high. I think I
just composted them at the end of summer, not knowing what to do with
them.
What would have happened if I had left them? they are not frost hardy
are they?

Also, what is the difference between the plants grown for leaves and
those for fibre? What about the flowers? Are they used also? I'm
innocent of these things, just curious.


The courts are pretty lenient these days with regard to small amounts for
personal use & with Class C status due at the end of january it wont take
long for many first timers who want to start growing their own .

Perhaps this might be a good time for you experts to start putting
together a FAQ on the subject ..... in theory of course :-)


--
http://www.cannabiswindow.co.uk

hugh 21-11-2003 07:22 PM

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In message , martin
writes
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:06:30 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from "David Hill" contains these
words:

"...... Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis ........."


I have to presume you want to grow it for it's fibre, then the first thing
is to get a licence........ It's now a legal crop for fibre production..
I just wonder what happens when you burn the waste from the crop, leaves etc
after harvest.
I presume you don't stand down wind.


I believe that the active ingredient is either negligible or nonexistant
in the commercial fibre variety.

It has emerged that teenage smokers of cannabis can contract a type of
dementia. (IIRC, You And Yours, BBC R4 - was this week, I think, so
ought to be extant on their wibble)


Millions die from smoking tobacco without ever reaching the age for
senile dementia.

I neither smoke, nor advocate smoking either.

And in the future many will die from cancer of the upper respiratory
system from smoking cannabis, and younger than those who die from lung
cancer caused by tobacco smoking.
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

Janet Baraclough 21-11-2003 07:22 PM

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The message
from Jaques d'Alltrades contains these words:

It has emerged that teenage smokers of cannabis can contract a type of
dementia. (IIRC, You And Yours, BBC R4 - was this week, I think, so
ought to be extant on their wibble)


Not just teenagers; and it's not dementia, it's cannabis-induced
psychosis.The majority of users won't develop it, but there is no way of
predicting who is at risk. Unlike alcoholism it isn't linked to
prolonged or excessive use, there are no warning signals, and you don't
sober up as the drug level in the blood reduces.

The broad difference between dementia and psychosis is that dementia is
usually gradual, progressive and permanent brain deterioration;
sufferers' families usually spot it developing and have chance to
protect the person before they are in physical danger. A psychotic
episode can develop very fast out of the blue and inspire
life-threatening behaviour.

If the person is very fortunate,it may be a one-off episode from which
they make a full recovery eventually, though it may take a considerable
time.Not all people are so lucky. There is a theory that recurrence of
cannabis-induced psychoses may trigger schizophrenia in some susceptible
people.

Psychotic episodes involving dangerous behaviour often result in the
person being detained in mental hospital without their consent; which
can itself be a very difficult experience for young people.

Janet.





Jaques d'Alltrades 22-11-2003 02:07 AM

Cannabis Growing
 
The message
from bigboard contains these words:

In what way would the legal variety be distinguishable from the
illegal one,
to the eyes of a prying officialdom?


Smell, certainly. But the main way an official can tell if a crop is
legal or not, is that you must have a licence to grow it. If you don't
have a licence, pack your steel-seated pajamas, you're off to prison.


However, if you knew where it was going to be grown commercially, you
might substitute a block of something smelly where you know where to
find it.

It'd probably grow too high, or give itself away somehow.

--
Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

CW 22-11-2003 02:08 AM

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uk.rec.gardening , Janet Baraclough ,

Not just teenagers; and it's not dementia, it's cannabis-induced
psychosis.The majority of users won't develop it, but there is no way of
predicting who is at risk. Unlike alcoholism it isn't linked to
prolonged or excessive use, there are no warning signals,


The actual strength of the cannabis is a major factor & while production
and distribution remains in criminal hands there will never be any
measurement scale of any value for people to use .

A fair percentage of cannabis users would like a trusted and licensed
local supplier as their only source of cannabis as they know what they
would be getting .


--
http://www.cannabiswindow.co.uk

Anthony Anson 22-11-2003 02:08 AM

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The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:

The word senile wasn't mentioned. Cannabis dementia can set in during
late teens.


Well, anti-cannabis dementia certainly can. Do you know the story of
the boy who cried "wolf"?


While it is POSSIBLE that such a thing can happen, I am thoroughly
disinclined to believe ANY anti-cannabis story dreamt up by either
the political or the medical establishment. I have heard just too
many of them that have proved to be more-or-less complete nonsense.
If any independent evidence emerges, it might be worth listening to,
but I can no longer be bothered even to check if that counts as
independent. No, I don't smoke it.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/youandyours_20031118_4.ram

I can't see a transcript there. Listen to it. It's not establishment
propaganda, it's parents' experiences.

--
Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

Janet Baraclough 22-11-2003 02:08 AM

Cannabis Growing
 
The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:


While it is POSSIBLE that such a thing can happen, I am thoroughly
disinclined to believe ANY anti-cannabis story dreamt up by either
the political or the medical establishment.


Tobacco smokers used not to believe the rumour their habit could cause
lung and circulatory disease.

Unfortunately it isn't a story, Nick. I've met many people it's
happened to, all of whom have been medically diagnosed and forcibly
admitted to hospital; and heard their own accounts, and their families'
accounts. It's been recognised for at least a decade in mental health
circles by professionals, patients, support and pressure groups.

Janet.

martin 22-11-2003 02:08 AM

Cannabis Growing
 
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:28:26 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

It has emerged that teenage smokers of cannabis can contract a type of
dementia. (IIRC, You And Yours, BBC R4 - was this week, I think, so
ought to be extant on their wibble)


Millions die from smoking tobacco without ever reaching the age for
senile dementia.


The word senile wasn't mentioned. Cannabis dementia can set in during
late teens.


I mentioned senile. Lung cancer can also set in when a person is
young.
--
Martin

David Hill 22-11-2003 02:09 AM

Cannabis Growing
 
"...........It has emerged that teenage smokers of cannabis can contract a
type of dementia ....."

Must be why the keep missing out letters when they send text messages.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk




martin 22-11-2003 02:09 AM

Cannabis Growing
 
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:48:39 -0000, "David Hill"
wrote:

"...........It has emerged that teenage smokers of cannabis can contract a
type of dementia ....."

Must be why the keep missing out letters when they send text messages.


LOL!

and I thought it was dyslexia :-)
--
Martin


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