Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
I'm wondering whether to give this a go this year. Chiltern has seed, and
www.futurefoods.com has tubers. Is it worth growing? Anyone here growing it? The suppliers reckon it is mostly hardy, and as I am in Cornwall I could take the chance - but on the other hand my garden looks straight North to Dartmoor, and there was still frost on the lawn at lunchtime.... Victoria -- gardening on a north-facing hill in South-East Cornwall -- |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
In article , Victoria Clare writes: | I'm wondering whether to give this a go this year. Chiltern has seed, and | www.futurefoods.com has tubers. | | Is it worth growing? Anyone here growing it? The suppliers reckon it is | mostly hardy, and as I am in Cornwall I could take the chance - but on the | other hand my garden looks straight North to Dartmoor, and there was still | frost on the lawn at lunchtime.... Unless it tastes a hell of a lot better than the tropical ones, no. That excludes the problems that the claimed hardiness is for very well-drained soil and probably low night temperatures only, and that it may well need more heat and light to grow than we get. You might like to have a go at Stachys affinis ("Chinese artichoke"). I tried it, and it isn't bad as a nibble, but doesn't like dry summers. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
In article . 10, Victoria Clare writes: | | You might like to have a go at Stachys affinis ("Chinese artichoke"). | I tried it, and it isn't bad as a nibble, but doesn't like dry | summers. | | Hmm, thanks. Will consider. Those roots do look alarmingly like maggots | tho! Funny. That seems to be a near-universal reaction. They don't look any less like them close up, either. I will report on Oxalis tuberosum in due course. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words: You might like to have a go at Stachys affinis ("Chinese artichoke"). I tried it, and it isn't bad as a nibble, but doesn't like dry summers. I bought some artichokes (subterranian) in a shop in Norwich, and they were long, thumblike, rather small, and very un-knobbly. Any idea what these were? I've saves them for planting... (When asked, the assistant said: "Artichokes.") -- Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano, iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03) |
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In article , Jaques d'Alltrades writes: | The message | from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words: | | You might like to have a go at Stachys affinis ("Chinese artichoke"). | I tried it, and it isn't bad as a nibble, but doesn't like dry | summers. | | I bought some artichokes (subterranian) in a shop in Norwich, and they | were long, thumblike, rather small, and very un-knobbly. | | Any idea what these were? I've saves them for planting... (When asked, | the assistant said: "Artichokes.") Possible fusee Jerusalem artichokes. They are a very distinct variant. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words: | Any idea what these were? I've saves them for planting... (When asked, | the assistant said: "Artichokes.") Possible fusee Jerusalem artichokes. They are a very distinct variant. Definitely - much easier to scrape, I'd guess. I've just molished a sooper new soop: scrub and boil artichokes. Put some fish trimmings in a casserole with some milk or water - cod cheeks, cod tails, etc, and cook on defrost. Remove skin and any bones. Liquidise fish with its juice. Liquidise artichokes in some of thir water. Put fish skin and bones back in the casserole and simmer in milk or artichoke water. Mix macerated fish and artichokes in a casserole and add juice from fish skins, bones etc. Add some finely chopped parsley and a little black pepper. Place casserole in low oven or in microwave on defrost setting. One of my better efforts, I think. It is *VERY* thick and really scrumptious. -- Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano, iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03) |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
In article , Victoria
Clare writes (Nick Maclaren) wrote in news:bpt755$jrr$1 : I will report on Oxalis tuberosum in due course. Oh good, that's another I'd been vaguely thinking about. If it survives Cambridge it should have no problems here, unless it likes long days (north side of a hill is bad for day length...) Have you tried pig nuts? -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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Kay Easton wrote: In article , Victoria Clare writes (Nick Maclaren) wrote in news:bpt755$jrr$1 : I will report on Oxalis tuberosum in due course. Oh good, that's another I'd been vaguely thinking about. If it survives Cambridge it should have no problems here, unless it likes long days (north side of a hill is bad for day length...) Have you tried pig nuts? No, but I also tried Cyperus esculentum. Not bad, if you have reasonable teeth, but a hell of a fiddle - almost as bad in that respect as Stachys affinis (which might do better in wetter climates). Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
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Kay Easton wrote: In article , Victoria Clare writes (Nick Maclaren) wrote in news:bpt755$jrr$1 : I will report on Oxalis tuberosum in due course. Oh good, that's another I'd been vaguely thinking about. If it survives Cambridge it should have no problems here, unless it likes long days (north side of a hill is bad for day length...) Have you tried pig nuts? No, but I also tried Cyperus esculentum. Not bad, if you have reasonable teeth, but a hell of a fiddle - almost as bad in that respect as Stachys affinis (which might do better in wetter climates). Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
On 24 Nov 2003 15:12:37 GMT, Nick Maclaren wrote:
I will report on Oxalis tuberosum in due course. I can give an early report. You can buy "oca" in Vancouver at one of the high end grocery places catering to the urban more-money- than-is-good-for-them types. A friend bought some and gave me a couple of pots, which I passed on to other friends with better growing conditions. One of the recipients reported back a couple of weeks ago that hers had formed tubers and that she'd eaten some. She was delighted with them: like potatos with a lemon-y taste. I believe oca only forms tubers in the late summer or fall, as the days shorten, so dig it as late as you can. But on the other hand it comes from a relatively low latitude (but high altitude) so it may respond to only a slight shortening in day length. |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:41:25 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
I bought some artichokes (subterranian) in a shop in Norwich, and they were long, thumblike, rather small, and very un-knobbly. Any idea what these were? I've saves them for planting... (When asked, the assistant said: "Artichokes.") Look up "Jerusalem artichoke". The inositol in them causes a lot of gas. |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
On 24 Nov 2003 15:12:37 GMT, Nick Maclaren wrote:
I will report on Oxalis tuberosum in due course. I can give an early report. You can buy "oca" in Vancouver at one of the high end grocery places catering to the urban more-money- than-is-good-for-them types. A friend bought some and gave me a couple of pots, which I passed on to other friends with better growing conditions. One of the recipients reported back a couple of weeks ago that hers had formed tubers and that she'd eaten some. She was delighted with them: like potatos with a lemon-y taste. I believe oca only forms tubers in the late summer or fall, as the days shorten, so dig it as late as you can. But on the other hand it comes from a relatively low latitude (but high altitude) so it may respond to only a slight shortening in day length. |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:41:25 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
I bought some artichokes (subterranian) in a shop in Norwich, and they were long, thumblike, rather small, and very un-knobbly. Any idea what these were? I've saves them for planting... (When asked, the assistant said: "Artichokes.") Look up "Jerusalem artichoke". The inositol in them causes a lot of gas. |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
On 24 Nov 2003 15:12:37 GMT, Nick Maclaren wrote:
I will report on Oxalis tuberosum in due course. I can give an early report. You can buy "oca" in Vancouver at one of the high end grocery places catering to the urban more-money- than-is-good-for-them types. A friend bought some and gave me a couple of pots, which I passed on to other friends with better growing conditions. One of the recipients reported back a couple of weeks ago that hers had formed tubers and that she'd eaten some. She was delighted with them: like potatos with a lemon-y taste. I believe oca only forms tubers in the late summer or fall, as the days shorten, so dig it as late as you can. But on the other hand it comes from a relatively low latitude (but high altitude) so it may respond to only a slight shortening in day length. |
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In article ,
Rodger Whitlock wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:41:25 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: I bought some artichokes (subterranian) in a shop in Norwich, and they were long, thumblike, rather small, and very un-knobbly. Any idea what these were? I've saves them for planting... (When asked, the assistant said: "Artichokes.") Look up "Jerusalem artichoke". The inositol in them causes a lot of gas. A.k.a. fartichokes. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:41:25 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
I bought some artichokes (subterranian) in a shop in Norwich, and they were long, thumblike, rather small, and very un-knobbly. Any idea what these were? I've saves them for planting... (When asked, the assistant said: "Artichokes.") Look up "Jerusalem artichoke". The inositol in them causes a lot of gas. |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
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Rodger Whitlock wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:41:25 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: I bought some artichokes (subterranian) in a shop in Norwich, and they were long, thumblike, rather small, and very un-knobbly. Any idea what these were? I've saves them for planting... (When asked, the assistant said: "Artichokes.") Look up "Jerusalem artichoke". The inositol in them causes a lot of gas. A.k.a. fartichokes. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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from lid (Rodger Whitlock) contains these words: On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:41:25 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: I bought some artichokes (subterranian) in a shop in Norwich, and they were long, thumblike, rather small, and very un-knobbly. Any idea what these were? I've saves them for planting... (When asked, the assistant said: "Artichokes.") Look up "Jerusalem artichoke". The inositol in them causes a lot of gas. I'm immune. Now. A patient goes to see his doctor. "I'm having terrible trouble with flatulence, Doctor. Oops! There's no stopping them. Oops! Still, it could be worse. Oops! They are quite silent, and there isn't any smell." Oops! Oh dear! The doctor gets out a syringe. "Now, Mr. Smith, first of all I am going to syringe your ears....... -- Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano, iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03) |
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:47:12 +0000, Victoria Clare wrote:
Tropaeolum tuberosum - anyone tried that, while we are on the subject of Andean roots? Rareplants.co.uk seems to think it is hardy, and it certainly looks decorative. I don't know if I could bear to dig it up just to eat the roots unless they are particularly tasty though! Though presumably the rest is edible like nasturtians too. I have the impression that it needs good drainage, esp. if you have a wet winter. I've never been able to establish it here, although I've had T. polyphyllum for over a decade. (In that time it has wandered afar and is now snug under a concrete patio, whence it comes up around the edges. |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:47:12 +0000, Victoria Clare wrote:
Tropaeolum tuberosum - anyone tried that, while we are on the subject of Andean roots? Rareplants.co.uk seems to think it is hardy, and it certainly looks decorative. I don't know if I could bear to dig it up just to eat the roots unless they are particularly tasty though! Though presumably the rest is edible like nasturtians too. I have the impression that it needs good drainage, esp. if you have a wet winter. I've never been able to establish it here, although I've had T. polyphyllum for over a decade. (In that time it has wandered afar and is now snug under a concrete patio, whence it comes up around the edges. |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:47:12 +0000, Victoria Clare wrote:
Tropaeolum tuberosum - anyone tried that, while we are on the subject of Andean roots? Rareplants.co.uk seems to think it is hardy, and it certainly looks decorative. I don't know if I could bear to dig it up just to eat the roots unless they are particularly tasty though! Though presumably the rest is edible like nasturtians too. I have the impression that it needs good drainage, esp. if you have a wet winter. I've never been able to establish it here, although I've had T. polyphyllum for over a decade. (In that time it has wandered afar and is now snug under a concrete patio, whence it comes up around the edges. |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:34:27 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message from lid (Rodger Whitlock) contains these words: On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:41:25 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: I bought some artichokes (subterranian) in a shop in Norwich, and they were long, thumblike, rather small, and very un-knobbly. Any idea what these were? I've saves them for planting... (When asked, the assistant said: "Artichokes.") Look up "Jerusalem artichoke". The inositol in them causes a lot of gas. I'm immune. Now. A patient goes to see his doctor. "I'm having terrible trouble with flatulence, Doctor. Oops! There's no stopping them. Oops! Still, it could be worse. Oops! They are quite silent, and there isn't any smell." Oops! Oh dear! The doctor gets out a syringe. "Now, Mr. Smith, first of all I am going to syringe your ears....... substitute red hot poker up orifices for another version. -- Martin |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:34:27 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message from lid (Rodger Whitlock) contains these words: On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:41:25 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: I bought some artichokes (subterranian) in a shop in Norwich, and they were long, thumblike, rather small, and very un-knobbly. Any idea what these were? I've saves them for planting... (When asked, the assistant said: "Artichokes.") Look up "Jerusalem artichoke". The inositol in them causes a lot of gas. I'm immune. Now. A patient goes to see his doctor. "I'm having terrible trouble with flatulence, Doctor. Oops! There's no stopping them. Oops! Still, it could be worse. Oops! They are quite silent, and there isn't any smell." Oops! Oh dear! The doctor gets out a syringe. "Now, Mr. Smith, first of all I am going to syringe your ears....... substitute red hot poker up orifices for another version. -- Martin |
Dioscorea batatas (hardy Yam)
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message ... The message from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words: You might like to have a go at Stachys affinis ("Chinese artichoke"). I tried it, and it isn't bad as a nibble, but doesn't like dry summers. I bought some artichokes (subterranian) in a shop in Norwich, and they were long, thumblike, rather small, and very un-knobbly. Any idea what these were? I've saves them for planting... (When asked, the assistant said: "Artichokes.") Did they taste like potatos or artichokes? Franz |
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from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: Any idea what these were? I've saves them for planting... (When asked, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ############### the assistant said: "Artichokes.") Did they taste like potatos or artichokes? Typo - saved... -- Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano, iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03) |
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