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Substitute for horticultural fleece?
Hello there
I have a couple of nice pineapple sage plants but from what I have read they will need some frost protection. I am wondering whether anyone has any suggestions as to what they can be insulated with - will I have to go and buy some horticultural fleece (which I haven't used before) or is there something that might do just as well? Any suggestions would be very handy! Kindest regards Ruth |
Substitute for horticultural fleece?
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Substitute for horticultural fleece?
"Ruth" wrote in message om... Hello there I have a couple of nice pineapple sage plants but from what I have read they will need some frost protection. I am wondering whether anyone has any suggestions as to what they can be insulated with - will I have to go and buy some horticultural fleece (which I haven't used before) or is there something that might do just as well? Any suggestions would be very handy! Kindest regards Ruth Fleece is brilliant stuff because it lets the plant(s) breath while wrapped up. It does not go 'soggy' as old blankets etc will It's ligthweight and easy to wrap round things. Maybe you have an old fleece jumper you could use as a trial ? Jenny |
Substitute for horticultural fleece?
Fleece will only give you 2 or 3 degrees of protection, Take cuttings ASAP.
You could cut back fairly hard and cover well with compost and straw. Really depends on the sort of frosts you get in your part of the world. -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
Substitute for horticultural fleece?
Fleece will only give you 2 or 3 degrees of protection, Take cuttings ASAP.
You could cut back fairly hard and cover well with compost and straw. Really depends on the sort of frosts you get in your part of the world. -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
Substitute for horticultural fleece?
Fleece will only give you 2 or 3 degrees of protection, Take cuttings ASAP.
You could cut back fairly hard and cover well with compost and straw. Really depends on the sort of frosts you get in your part of the world. -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
Substitute for horticultural fleece?
Victoria Clare wrote in message 8.207...
(Ruth) wrote in news:1a410f23.0311240942.5366e115 @posting.google.com: Hello there I have a couple of nice pineapple sage plants but from what I have read they will need some frost protection. snip Horticultural fleece is good because it protects the plant without preventing air circulating and allowing it to get enough light. Anything else you use needs to be transparent. snip Or if you have an old window or some perspex and some bricks, you could simply build a basic cold-frame round them and dismantle it in the spring. Many thanks for that Victoria - yes, I think that a cold frame may be the way to go, I have a few bits and pieces I can use. The plants have grown like mad this year so I wouldn't like to lose them! All the best Ruth |
Substitute for horticultural fleece?
"JennyC" wrote in message ...
"Ruth" wrote in message om... Hello there I have a couple of nice pineapple sage plants but from what I have read they will need some frost protection. snip Maybe you have an old fleece jumper you could use as a trial ? Yes, I was wondering if I could use something breathable instead as i've never actually seen horticultural fleece close up! Thanks for the info :) All the best Ruth |
Substitute for horticultural fleece?
Hi David
"David Hill" wrote in message ... Fleece will only give you 2 or 3 degrees of protection, Take cuttings ASAP. You could cut back fairly hard and cover well with compost and straw. Really depends on the sort of frosts you get in your part of the world. Yes, a cutting or two would be a good idea - I live in London so frost isn't a massive problem here but even so.... All the best Ruth |
Substitute for horticultural fleece?
"Ruth" wrote in message om... Hello there I have a couple of nice pineapple sage plants but from what I have read they will need some frost protection. I am wondering whether anyone has any suggestions as to what they can be insulated with - will I have to go and buy some horticultural fleece (which I haven't used before) or is there something that might do just as well? Any suggestions would be very handy! Kindest regards Bubble plastic packing material, but take it off during the day. Franz |
Substitute for horticultural fleece?
Ruth wrote:
Hello there I have a couple of nice pineapple sage plants but from what I have read they will need some frost protection. I am wondering whether anyone has any suggestions as to what they can be insulated with - will I have to go and buy some horticultural fleece (which I haven't used before) or is there something that might do just as well? Any suggestions would be very handy! Kindest regards Ruth There are various 'in betweens' that are similar.. different grades of fleece, branded poducts like papronet etc.. I have even known people to useold net curtains though cannot vouch for their effeciacy! Jim |
Substitute for horticultural fleece?
"Ruth" wrote in message om... "JennyC" wrote in message ... "Ruth" wrote in message om... Hello there I have a couple of nice pineapple sage plants but from what I have read they will need some frost protection. snip Maybe you have an old fleece jumper you could use as a trial ? Yes, I was wondering if I could use something breathable instead as i've never actually seen horticultural fleece close up! Thanks for the info :) All the best Ruth Gosh, you mean to say you don't have ANY fleece jumpers ! It's made by recycling plastic bottles - About 50 soft drinks bottles go into a sweater. Jenny |
Substitute for horticultural fleece?
"Franz Heymann" wrote in message ...
"Ruth" wrote in message om... Hello there I have a couple of nice pineapple sage plants but from what I have read they will need some frost protection. I am wondering whether anyone has any suggestions as to what they can be insulated with - will I have to go and buy some horticultural fleece (which I haven't used before) or is there something that might do just as well? Any suggestions would be very handy! Kindest regards Bubble plastic packing material, but take it off during the day. Cheers Franz! All the best Ruth |
Substitute for horticultural fleece?
Ruth2/12/03 5:45
"Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "Ruth" wrote in message om... Hello there I have a couple of nice pineapple sage plants but from what I have read they will need some frost protection. I am wondering whether anyone has any suggestions as to what they can be insulated with - will I have to go and buy some horticultural fleece (which I haven't used before) or is there something that might do just as well? Any suggestions would be very handy! Kindest regards Bubble plastic packing material, but take it off during the day. Cheers Franz! All the best Ruth Bubble wrap will produce condensation and that, in itself, could rot your plants. I would suggest you dig your plants up, put them in pots of well-drained compost, keep them frost free in a greenhouse or conservatory with a just-above-freezing heater and as dry rooted as makes no difference and then pop them out again next year once frosts have passed, bring them in again next winter etc. Why take them out of their pots, really? Let them be an ornamental feature and then protect them each year. If you *really* want to faff around with bubble wrap, I would suggest that you *might* find that you're wasting your time anyway. Wet, cold soil that is not sharply drained may well kill them anyway. These are herbs and like all herbs of Med origin need dry feet, not our cold, wet, English winters. Even in the Med, they grow on stony soils that are sharply drained in wet winters. Your choice, of course but more people lose Salvias, Lavandulas (some) Rosmarinus (some) and other such plants through wet roots than through anything else, depending on location. For the more tender species, the frost will simply be the coup de grace when combined with the perpetually wet roots. We know that we can over-winter Salvia involucrata in a bed beside the house wall but we also know that we cannot over-winter Salvia confertiflora. We have to re-plant that every year but it's worth it because it flowers late and is a lovely colour. I'd suggest the rule is "if in doubt, don't risk it" and always, always to remember that cold, perpetually wet soil will kill many such plants and that no amount of wrap or fleece will alter that. We know that friends of ours can grow Rosemary 'Severn Seas' at Salcombe but that we are taking a risk with it here. Trial and expensive error, I'm afraid. If you don't want to take the risk, pot them up, bring them in etc. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the 'x' to email me) |
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