Its all because of the eccentricity of the Earth's orbit.In the UK/Northern
hemisphere January 9th is the day when the sun starts to rise earlier in the
morning.
I think its people rather than their plants who are really suffering from
light deprivation.

David T.

In article , Franz Heymann notfranz.
writes

I don't think there's anything wrong with Christmas as an event. It's
the commercialisation and terrible telly and overindulgence that's the
problem. If you take it as it was meant to be,


That was not what it was meant to be at all. It originated as a heathen
festival long before the Christians hijacked it.


Quite a number of religious, pagan and secular festivals take place
about this time of the year. They are all originally based on the finish
of one planetary cycle around the sun and the commencement of the next.
That actually happens at the Winter Solstice on Dec.21st. when the
longest night and the shortest day occur, but various observances go on
into mid-January.

The significance to gardeners is that daylight time begins to lengthen
after the Solstice, our gardens draw closer to the sun and on average
weather improves as we approach the coming spring. Plants and other life
forms respond, and before long we are into the next growing season.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:32:48 +0000, Alan Gould
wrote:

The significance to gardeners is that daylight time begins to lengthen
after the Solstice, our gardens draw closer to the sun and on average
weather improves as we approach the coming spring. Plants and other life
forms respond, and before long we are into the next growing season.

Sun? What sun?

http://home.wanadoo.nl/verdienen/wee...moverzicht.htm
--
Martin

On 12 Dec 2003 15:20:08 GMT, (MallowKat) wrote:

~Jane
~
~We also have a large collection of games and are looking to expand it. I'm
~going to lookout for the Fluxx game. I don't suppose you could recommend any
~others?
~
~We can recommend:
~
~Pit
~Balderdash
~The Great Game of Britain
~

ok to veer towards being on topic for this ng, we love a game from
Germany called Bohnen (Beans), which I think you can get in English
now. First time we played it was hilarious as we were translating as
we went in a Berlin hotel room!
It's a card game, so it's easy to pack and take places. You collect
and plant various kinds of beans, then harvest them for cash. We've
managed to teach both sets of parents and a fair few friends now.

Another one I can recommend for everyone is ludo with vengeance,
otherwise known as Sorry! Anyone used to the standard ludo will find
it easy.


--
jane

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks!

In article , martin
writes
Sun? What sun?


Big Sol is still there - even if we cannot always see it.
We had a beautifully sunny day today (Sat.) up till about 14.30 hrs.
despite a totally different weather forecast for the area.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

The message
from Alan Gould contains these words:

Big Sol is still there - even if we cannot always see it.
We had a beautifully sunny day today (Sat.) up till about 14.30 hrs.
despite a totally different weather forecast for the area.

However, here in Norfolk it's been warm, with a spattering of dampness
falling out of the grey matter up there.

--
Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:38:12 -0000, "david taylor"
wrote:

~Its all because of the eccentricity of the Earth's orbit.In the UK/Northern
~hemisphere January 9th is the day when the sun starts to rise earlier in the
~morning.
~I think its people rather than their plants who are really suffering from
~light deprivation.
~
~David T.
~
~

This is rather amusingly apt - I only noticed it today on the weather
site!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/feature...solstice.shtml


--
jane

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks!

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 06:58:18 +0000 (UTC), (jane)
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:38:12 -0000, "david taylor"
wrote:

~Its all because of the eccentricity of the Earth's orbit.In the UK/Northern
~hemisphere January 9th is the day when the sun starts to rise earlier in the
~morning.
~I think its people rather than their plants who are really suffering from
~light deprivation.
~
~David T.
~
~

This is rather amusingly apt - I only noticed it today on the weather
site!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/feature...solstice.shtml

Thanks for that. I was trying to explain this thread to someone at work today. Now I
can just send them the URL.

In our house we wait hopefully for 21 Dec every year. Now we can know all is not lost
way before that!

Liz