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anita 12-12-2003 07:31 PM

OT email from africa
 
Hi everyone

Sorry for this OT question, but i don't know what to do.
I have been sent an email from someone in africa asking for help and bank details, i know this is a con, but are we to report this to someone , i remember seeing something on tv and reports in news, and i can not remember if i should just delete it or report it.

Thanks

Arthur 12-12-2003 08:32 PM

OT email from africa
 

"anita" wrote in message
s.com...
Hi everyone

Sorry for this OT question, but i don't know what to do.
I have been sent an email from someone in africa asking for help and
bank details, i know this is a con, but are we to report this to
someone , i remember seeing something on tv and reports in news, and i
can not remember if i should just delete it or report it.

Thanks


Just delete it and ignore it. You'll probably get plenty more. Ignore them
as well

- Arthur



anita 12-12-2003 08:40 PM

OT email from africa
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Arthur
"anita" wrote in message
s.com...
Hi everyone

Sorry for this OT question, but i don't know what to do.
I have been sent an email from someone in africa asking for help and
bank details, i know this is a con, but are we to report this to
someone , i remember seeing something on tv and reports in news, and i
can not remember if i should just delete it or report it.

Thanks


Just delete it and ignore it. You'll probably get plenty more. Ignore them
as well

- Arthur



Thanks Arthur

JennyC 12-12-2003 09:09 PM

OT email from africa
 

"anita" wrote in message
s.com...
Hi everyone

Sorry for this OT question, but i don't know what to do.
I have been sent an email from someone in africa asking for help and
bank details, i know this is a con, but are we to report this to
someone , i remember seeing something on tv and reports in news, and i
can not remember if i should just delete it or report it.
Thanks

anita


Report it to your local police. They should have a fraud department that will be
interested in it.
Jenny



Cerumen 12-12-2003 09:10 PM

OT email from africa
 

"anita" wrote in message
s.com...
Hi everyone

Sorry for this OT question, but i don't know what to do.
I have been sent an email from someone in africa asking for help and
bank details


You can forward that stuff to marking it "no
financial loss" - since the US Treasury has an interest in Nigerian 419
scams and follows them up but as far as I know the UK legal system has
enough examples already and has given up on it.
--
Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland





David Hill 12-12-2003 09:11 PM

OT email from africa
 
Give your local Fraud squad a copy of the email. Right click on the message
line, select properties, click on details then copy and print it then give
this copy to the Police.

Mostly these are asking fore help to get a few Million dollars out of the
country, the latest to come round is the lottery win. below is one I had
today,

ATTN-SIR/MADAM,

SUNSWEETWIN PROMO LOTTERY,THE NETHERLANDS.
ALFONSTRAAT B56,
1002 BS AMSTERDAM, THE NETHERLANDS.

TO THE MANAGER

FROM: THE DESK OF THE PROMOTIONS MANAGER,
INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS/PRIZE AWARD DEPARTMENT,
REF: OYL /26510460037/02
BATCH: 24/00319/IPD

ATTENTION:
RE/ AWARD NOTIFICATION; FINAL NOTICE
We are pleased to inform you of the announcement today,12th DECEMBER 2003,
of winners of the SUNSWEETWIN PROMO LOTTERY,THE NETHERLANDS.

NETHERLANDS/ INTERNATIONAL, PROGRAMS held on 12th DECEMBER 2003.

Your particulars,was attached to ticket number
023-0148-790-459, with serial number 5073-11 drew the lucky numbers
43-11-44-37-10-43, and consequently won the lottery in the 3rd category.

You have therefore been approved for a lump sum pay out of US$521.000.00
(Five hundred and twenty one thousand dollars) in cash credited to file REF
NO. OYL/25041238013/02. This is from total prize money of US$35,400,000.00
shared among the seventeen international winners in this category. All
participants were selected through a computer ballot system drawn form
25,000 names from Australia, New Zealand, America, Europe, North America and
Asia as part of International Promotions Program, which is conducted
annually.

CONGRATULATIONS!

Your fund is now deposited with a Security company insured in your name. Due
to the mix up of some numbers and names, we ask that you keep this award
strictly from public notice until your claim has been processed and your
money remitted to your account.

This is part of our security protocol to avoid
double claiming or unscrupulous acts by participants of this program.
We hope with a part of your prize, you will
participate in our end of year high stakes US$6.3Million
International Lottery.

To begin your claim, please contact your claim
agent; DR PAUL WILLIAMSON, FOREIGN SERVICE MANAGER,
CALLE CASTILLAS 3059,MADRID SPAIN.

EMAIL:


For due processing and remittance of your prize money to a designated
account of your choice.

Remember, all prize money must be claimed not later than 20th DECEMBER 2003
After this date, all funds will be returned as unclaimed,Due to,this is our
last program of the year 2003.

NOTE: In order to avoid unnecessary delays and complications, please
remember to quote your,reference and batch numbers in every one of your
Correspondences with your agent.

Furthermore, should there be any change of your address, do inform your
claims agent as soon as possible.

Congratulations again from all our staff and thank you for being part of our
promotions program.


Sincerely,

PETERS SMITH, IN
THE PROMOTIONS



--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk
***2004 catalogue now available***




martin 12-12-2003 09:12 PM

OT email from africa
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:00:30 -0000, "David Hill"
wrote:

Give your local Fraud squad a copy of the email. Right click on the message
line, select properties, click on details then copy and print it then give
this copy to the Police.

Mostly these are asking fore help to get a few Million dollars out of the
country, the latest to come round is the lottery win. below is one I had
today,


I think they have seen them all before.
There are web sites with complete collections.
There is a spoof website offering courses in Nigerian letter writing.
There's somebody in the USA who dialogues with them
--
Martin

Franz Heymann 12-12-2003 10:06 PM

OT email from africa
 

"anita" wrote in message
s.com...
Hi everyone

Sorry for this OT question, but i don't know what to do.
I have been sent an email from someone in africa asking for help and
bank details, i know this is a con, but are we to report this to
someone , i remember seeing something on tv and reports in news, and i
can not remember if i should just delete it or report it.

I have a strong feeling that nothing will happen if you report it, so you
might as well just reply to them that you have reported them, even if you
don't do anything.

Franz Heymann



martin 12-12-2003 10:11 PM

OT email from africa
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:47:49 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

I have a strong feeling that nothing will happen if you report it, so you
might as well just reply to them that you have reported them, even if you
don't do anything.


I have a strong feeling of deja vu and sniff a late night slug :-)
--
Martin

Franz Heymann 12-12-2003 10:39 PM

OT email from africa
 

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"anita" wrote in message
s.com...
Hi everyone

Sorry for this OT question, but i don't know what to do.
I have been sent an email from someone in africa asking for help and
bank details, i know this is a con, but are we to report this to
someone , i remember seeing something on tv and reports in news, and i
can not remember if i should just delete it or report it.

I have a strong feeling that nothing will happen if you report it, so you
might as well just reply to them that you have reported them, even if you
don't do anything.

Apologies for the quadruple posting. Computer glitch.

Franz



martin 12-12-2003 10:39 PM

OT email from africa
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:20:08 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


Apologies for the quadruple posting. Computer glitch.


Twitchy finger? :-)
--
Martin

Arthur 12-12-2003 10:39 PM

OT email from africa
 

"anita" wrote in message
s.com...
Just delete it and ignore it. You'll probably get plenty more.
Ignore them
as well

- Arthur *




Thanks Arthur
--
anita


Anita,
in spite of anything else you have been told ...

Don't print it and send it to the police. These emails have been
circulating by the million and all police forces have seen them.

Don't forward it anyone - you are just adding to the number of pointless
emails circulating around the web.

Don't be surprised when you receive more - the fact that you have received
one means that your email address is now unfortunately on a list somewhere.

Don't worry about it - regard it as a bit of litter than you might step over
in the street.

- Arthur



David Hill 12-12-2003 11:15 PM

OT email from africa
 
"........Don't print it and send it to the police. These emails have been
circulating by the million and all police forces have seen
them............."

There was a time when you were asked to forward then to National Crime
Squad,
Now if you print off showing all source codes etc and TAKE to your local
fraud squad, they will tell you what their policy is.
Here they want to see New scams........

You might find this link of use/interest
http://www.fraudwatchinternational.c...operatives.htm


--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk
***2004 catalogue now available***




Jaques d'Alltrades 13-12-2003 01:13 AM

OT email from africa
 
The message m
from anita contains these words:

Sorry for this OT question, but i don't know what to do.
I have been sent an email from someone in africa asking for help and
bank details, i know this is a con, but are we to report this to
someone , i remember seeing something on tv and reports in news, and i
can not remember if i should just delete it or report it.


I'd just delete it. If you feel you must send it somewhere, do so,
complete with header to:


--
Rusty Hinge
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

Jaques d'Alltrades 13-12-2003 01:13 AM

OT email from africa
 
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

I have a strong feeling that nothing will happen if you report it, so you
might as well just reply to them that you have reported them, even if you
don't do anything.


Whatever you do, DO NOT RESPOND.

Some of these people are very dangerous, and you may well find a Yardie
on your doorstep.

--
Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

Jaques d'Alltrades 13-12-2003 01:13 AM

OT email from africa
 
The message
from martin contains these words:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:47:49 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


I have a strong feeling that nothing will happen if you report it, so you
might as well just reply to them that you have reported them, even if you
don't do anything.


I have a strong feeling that nothing will happen if you report it, so you
might as well just reply to them that you have reported them, even if you
don't do anything.


I have a strong feeling that nothing will happen if you report it, so you
might as well just reply to them that you have reported them, even if you
don't do anything.


I have a strong feeling that nothing will happen if you report it, so you
might as well just reply to them that you have reported them, even if you
don't do anything.


I have a strong feeling of deja vu and sniff a late night slug :-)


I really have no idea what you're driving at, martin.

--
Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

Chris French and Helen Johnson 13-12-2003 09:42 AM

OT email from africa
 
In message , JennyC
writes

"anita" wrote in message
ws.com...
Hi everyone

Sorry for this OT question, but i don't know what to do.
I have been sent an email from someone in africa asking for help and
bank details, i know this is a con, but are we to report this to
someone , i remember seeing something on tv and reports in news, and i
can not remember if i should just delete it or report it.
Thanks

anita


Report it to your local police. They should have a fraud department
that will be
interested in it.


Most likely not, unless the letter contains useful info.

In the UK NCIS advise that they don't want any sent to them

http://www.ncis.co.uk/advancefeefraud.asp

The Met. Police say to only forward to them if the email contains
fraudsters addresses, bank accounts, telephone numbers:

http://www.met.police.uk/fraudalert/419.htm
--
Chris French and Helen Johnson, Leeds
urg Suppliers and References FAQ:
http://www.familyfrench.co.uk/garden/urgfaq/index.html

martin 13-12-2003 10:06 AM

OT email from africa
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:13:45 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message m
from anita contains these words:

Sorry for this OT question, but i don't know what to do.
I have been sent an email from someone in africa asking for help and
bank details, i know this is a con, but are we to report this to
someone , i remember seeing something on tv and reports in news, and i
can not remember if i should just delete it or report it.


I'd just delete it. If you feel you must send it somewhere, do so,
complete with header to:


Can you imagine the result?

'ere PC Dixon there's somebody offering us USD200,000,000 ....
--
Martin

martin 13-12-2003 10:10 AM

OT email from africa
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:19:28 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

snip iterations

I have a strong feeling that nothing will happen if you report it, so you
might as well just reply to them that you have reported them, even if you
don't do anything.


I have a strong feeling of deja vu and sniff a late night slug :-)


I really have no idea what you're driving at, martin.


nor me :-)
--
Martin

martin 13-12-2003 10:20 AM

OT email from africa
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:13:45 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message m
from anita contains these words:

Sorry for this OT question, but i don't know what to do.
I have been sent an email from someone in africa asking for help and
bank details, i know this is a con, but are we to report this to
someone , i remember seeing something on tv and reports in news, and i
can not remember if i should just delete it or report it.


I'd just delete it. If you feel you must send it somewhere, do so,
complete with header to:


Can you imagine the result?

'ere PC Dixon there's somebody offering us USD200,000,000 ....
--
Martin

martin 13-12-2003 10:21 AM

OT email from africa
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:19:28 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

snip iterations

I have a strong feeling that nothing will happen if you report it, so you
might as well just reply to them that you have reported them, even if you
don't do anything.


I have a strong feeling of deja vu and sniff a late night slug :-)


I really have no idea what you're driving at, martin.


nor me :-)
--
Martin

Arthur 13-12-2003 10:39 AM

OT email from africa
 

"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message m
from anita contains these words:

Sorry for this OT question, but i don't know what to do.
I have been sent an email from someone in africa asking for help and
bank details, i know this is a con, but are we to report this to
someone , i remember seeing something on tv and reports in news, and i
can not remember if i should just delete it or report it.


I'd just delete it. If you feel you must send it somewhere, do so,
complete with header to:



No. The police get thousands of these forwarded every day. They have seen
them all before. They have better things to do than sort through all the
forwarded junk mails.

- Arthur



anita 13-12-2003 10:41 AM

OT email from africa
 
Quote:

Originally posted by martin
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:19:28 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

snip iterations

I have a strong feeling that nothing will happen if you report it, so you
might as well just reply to them that you have reported them, even if you
don't do anything.


I have a strong feeling of deja vu and sniff a late night slug :-)


I really have no idea what you're driving at, martin.


nor me :-)
--
Martin



Thank you for all the advice,
You guys are really brilliant.

Jaques d'Alltrades 13-12-2003 02:33 PM

OT email from africa
 
The message
from martin contains these words:

I'd just delete it. If you feel you must send it somewhere, do so,
complete with header to:


Can you imagine the result?


'ere PC Dixon there's somebody offering us USD200,000,000 ....


Nah....

"Just pass this to PC 419, will you?

--
Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

Jaques d'Alltrades 13-12-2003 02:34 PM

OT email from africa
 
The message
from "Arthur" contains these words:

I'd just delete it. If you feel you must send it somewhere, do so,
complete with header to:



No. The police get thousands of these forwarded every day. They have seen
them all before. They have better things to do than sort through all the
forwarded junk mails.


And new ones? They're clairvoyant?

I have asked them if they want me to stop sending them, and received
just an acknowledgement......

--
Rusty Hinge
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

Jaques d'Alltrades 13-12-2003 02:34 PM

OT email from africa
 
The message m
from anita contains these words:

Thank you for all the advice,
You guys are really brilliant.


I think we deserve another slug or two? [33]

[33] Of whisky, I hasten to add.

--
Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

martin 13-12-2003 02:34 PM

OT email from africa
 
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:33:31 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

I'd just delete it. If you feel you must send it somewhere, do so,
complete with header to:


Can you imagine the result?


'ere PC Dixon there's somebody offering us USD200,000,000 ....


Nah....

"Just pass this to PC 419, will you?


PC419? Who she?
--
Martin

martin 13-12-2003 02:34 PM

OT email from africa
 
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:35:24 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from "Arthur" contains these words:

I'd just delete it. If you feel you must send it somewhere, do so,
complete with header to:



No. The police get thousands of these forwarded every day. They have seen
them all before. They have better things to do than sort through all the
forwarded junk mails.


And new ones? They're clairvoyant?


no they are understaffed and should have better things to do than read
junk mail.


I have asked them if they want me to stop sending them, and received
just an acknowledgement......


generated by a bot?

I passed on Nigerian & French letters and never got any sort of an
acknowledgement other than the occasional dawn raid.
--
Martin

martin 13-12-2003 02:34 PM

OT email from africa
 
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:36:51 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message m
from anita contains these words:

Thank you for all the advice,
You guys are really brilliant.


I think we deserve another slug or two? [33]

[33] Of whisky, I hasten to add.


I suspect Anita is after something, like my bottle of winter warming
medicinal Stroh Rhum.
--
Martin

Franz Heymann 13-12-2003 03:03 PM

OT email from africa
 

"martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:20:08 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


Apologies for the quadruple posting. Computer glitch.


Twitchy finger? :-)


Can't understand it. Kept getting message "unable to deliver", so reposted
four times in succession, till I got tired of the game. Soon afterwards the
whole shebang graunched and I had to reboot.

Franz



Arthur 13-12-2003 03:04 PM

OT email from africa
 

"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...

And new ones? They're clairvoyant?

I have asked them if they want me to stop sending them, and received
just an acknowledgement......


They don't need to be clairvoyant. They have email addresses too and
receive all the same nessages. Your 'acknowledgement' was an automatic one
to politely get rid of you. The police don't employ people to read all that
junk, and I for one wouldn't want them to waste my taxes doing so.

Just leave it and get on with living.

- Arthur





martin 13-12-2003 03:04 PM

OT email from africa
 
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:48:59 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


Twitchy finger? :-)


Can't understand it. Kept getting message "unable to deliver", so reposted
four times in succession, till I got tired of the game. Soon afterwards the
whole shebang graunched and I had to reboot.


I blame OED. :-)
--
Martin

Franz Heymann 13-12-2003 04:45 PM

OT email from africa
 

"martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:48:59 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


Twitchy finger? :-)


Can't understand it. Kept getting message "unable to deliver", so

reposted
four times in succession, till I got tired of the game. Soon afterwards

the
whole shebang graunched and I had to reboot.


I blame OED. :-)


OED was not even in the drive. {:-))

Franz
--
Martin




Franz Heymann 13-12-2003 04:46 PM

OT email from africa
 

"martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:36:51 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message m
from anita contains these words:

Thank you for all the advice,
You guys are really brilliant.


I think we deserve another slug or two? [33]

[33] Of whisky, I hasten to add.


I suspect Anita is after something, like my bottle of winter warming
medicinal Stroh Rhum.


Stroh Rhum when there's Laphroig in the house??

Franz



Franz Heymann 13-12-2003 04:46 PM

OT email from africa
 

"martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:48:59 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


Twitchy finger? :-)


Can't understand it. Kept getting message "unable to deliver", so

reposted
four times in succession, till I got tired of the game. Soon afterwards

the
whole shebang graunched and I had to reboot.


I blame OED. :-)


OED was not even in the drive. {:-))

Franz
--
Martin




Franz Heymann 13-12-2003 04:46 PM

OT email from africa
 

"martin" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:36:51 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message m
from anita contains these words:

Thank you for all the advice,
You guys are really brilliant.


I think we deserve another slug or two? [33]

[33] Of whisky, I hasten to add.


I suspect Anita is after something, like my bottle of winter warming
medicinal Stroh Rhum.


Stroh Rhum when there's Laphroig in the house??

Franz



martin 13-12-2003 06:13 PM

OT email from africa
 
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:27:51 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"martin" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:48:59 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


Twitchy finger? :-)

Can't understand it. Kept getting message "unable to deliver", so

reposted
four times in succession, till I got tired of the game. Soon afterwards

the
whole shebang graunched and I had to reboot.


I blame OED. :-)


OED was not even in the drive. {:-))


exactly :-)
--
Martin

martin 13-12-2003 06:13 PM

OT email from africa
 
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:27:52 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"martin" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:36:51 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message m
from anita contains these words:

Thank you for all the advice,
You guys are really brilliant.

I think we deserve another slug or two? [33]

[33] Of whisky, I hasten to add.


I suspect Anita is after something, like my bottle of winter warming
medicinal Stroh Rhum.


Stroh Rhum when there's Laphroig in the house??

Franz


--
Martin

jane 13-12-2003 06:42 PM

OT email from africa
 
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:27:19 +0100, martin wrote:

~On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:35:24 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:
~
~The message
~from "Arthur" contains these words:
~
~ I'd just delete it. If you feel you must send it somewhere, do so,
~ complete with header to:
~
~
~
~ No. The police get thousands of these forwarded every day. They have seen
~ them all before. They have better things to do than sort through all the
~ forwarded junk mails.
~
~And new ones? They're clairvoyant?
~
~no they are understaffed and should have better things to do than read
~junk mail.
~
~
~I have asked them if they want me to stop sending them, and received
~just an acknowledgement......
~
~generated by a bot?
~
~I passed on Nigerian & French letters and never got any sort of an
~acknowledgement other than the occasional dawn raid.

I'm not surprised, if you sent them French letters!


--
jane

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks!

martin 13-12-2003 07:02 PM

OT email from africa
 
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:38:14 +0000 (UTC),
(jane) wrote:

~I passed on Nigerian & French letters and never got any sort of an
~acknowledgement other than the occasional dawn raid.

I'm not surprised, if you sent them French letters!


Just checking :-)
--
Martin


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