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David 27-12-2003 10:32 AM

And flowering in the Christmas Day garden........?
 
Penstemons, Pelaroniums, fuchsias


"Sacha" wrote in message
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Trevor Appleton26/12/03 6:07


Sacha wrote in message
.. .
What has everyone found in their garden just now? We have Fuchsias, a
Cestrum, Rhododendron, Hydrangea (new flowers, not just hanging on

types)
Sarcococca, one lonely violet, Iris reticulata, Pulmonaria, mimosa just
about to burst forth, Chaenomeles, comfrey, Daphne bholua, Mahonias,
Nerines, and Lonicera (2 sorts)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
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Daphne bholua 'Darjeeling' can be detected from a couple or three tens

of
metres away. Absolutely covered in flowers and my favourite plant in the
garden. Mahonia 'Charity' has been flowering for about two months.


Other than than, there are no buds on the Snowdrops, Viburnum

bodnantense
'Dawn' is still in bud along with Prunus subhirtella 'Autumnalis and
Hammemellis mollis.

Cyclamen coum is flowering in the polytunnel only.

BTW does anyone grow these (supposedly) winter flowering wallflowers?

Mine have been in the polytunnel since September (bought as plugs from
Gardening Direct) and are just thinking of coming into flower now.


We have one or two in flower (just) outside on a bench.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
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Kay Easton 27-12-2003 04:12 PM

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In article , Trevor Appleton trevor@wea
ther.4dinternet.co.uk writes


Other than than, there are no buds on the Snowdrops, Viburnum bodnantense
'Dawn' is still in bud along with Prunus subhirtella 'Autumnalis and
Hammemellis mollis.



You're Yorkshire somewhere, aren't you? We're in NW leeds, about 400 ft
up. If you're over in the east, presumably you get colder winters than
we do.
Our V bodnantense has been out at least a month.


--
Kay Easton

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Trevor Appleton 27-12-2003 05:32 PM

And flowering in the Christmas Day garden........?
 

Kay Easton wrote in message
...
In article , Trevor Appleton trevor@wea
ther.4dinternet.co.uk writes


Other than than, there are no buds on the Snowdrops, Viburnum bodnantense
'Dawn' is still in bud along with Prunus subhirtella 'Autumnalis and
Hammemellis mollis.



You're Yorkshire somewhere, aren't you? We're in NW leeds, about 400 ft
up. If you're over in the east, presumably you get colder winters than
we do.
Our V bodnantense has been out at least a month.


Yes near Driffield 70ft amsl and 15 mls from the sea




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Mark Fawcett 29-12-2003 12:33 PM

And flowering in the Christmas Day garden........?
 
"sugarCandy" wrote in message ...
The rosemary bush has been in flower for a month, penstemons still going
strong, fuchias escaped the frost so far, geraniums under the front window
are putting up new flower buds and I picked a ripe lemon from my lemon bush
on Christmas eve!
Ann
Medway in Kent


Ive got one of those pink flower mallow type bushes still covered in
bloom and growing up through it is an orange eccremocarpus still
flowering. Horrible colour clash though!!!

Mark

NE Wales, 4 miles from Mold

Mark Fawcett 29-12-2003 12:43 PM

And flowering in the Christmas Day garden........?
 
Tonight might do the eccemocarpus and the mallow in though, the BBC
weather site is saying -11C. Its seems a bit excessive so Ive emailed
a complaint to them :-)

Jaques d'Alltrades 29-12-2003 02:13 PM

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from (Mark Fawcett) contains these words:

Tonight might do the eccemocarpus and the mallow in though, the BBC
weather site is saying -11C. Its seems a bit excessive so Ive emailed
a complaint to them :-)


Be careful: they may forecast a hurricane for you if you get up their
collective nose.

--
Rusty Hinge
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Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

Janet Galpin and Oliver Patterson 30-12-2003 01:05 AM

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The message
from "Trevor Appleton" contains these words:


Sacha wrote in message
.. .
What has everyone found in their garden just now? We have Fuchsias, a
Cestrum, Rhododendron, Hydrangea (new flowers, not just hanging on types)
Sarcococca, one lonely violet, Iris reticulata, Pulmonaria, mimosa just
about to burst forth, Chaenomeles, comfrey, Daphne bholua, Mahonias,
Nerines, and Lonicera (2 sorts)
--


Daphne bholua 'Darjeeling' can be detected from a couple or three tens of
metres away. Absolutely covered in flowers and my favourite plant in the
garden. Mahonia 'Charity' has been flowering for about two months.



Other than than, there are no buds on the Snowdrops, Viburnum bodnantense
'Dawn' is still in bud along with Prunus subhirtella 'Autumnalis and
Hammemellis mollis.


Cyclamen coum is flowering in the polytunnel only.


Cyclamen coum flowering in the garden and a few reluctant flowers on
Hamamelis 'Pallida'. Lonicera x purpusii 'Winter Beauty' is opening in a
sheltered spot and a small Sarcococca. Clematis cirrhosa 'Freckles' is
covered in flowers.
For the first time ever, two plants of Helleborus niger have been
flowering really well since a week before Christmas. Some Helleborus
hybridus are also unseasonally in flower.
Our bulbs aren't as well ahead as others' though. Snowdrops hardly
showing at all and certainly no sign of aconites.


Janet G (South Lincs)


Stephen Williams 01-01-2004 11:48 AM

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sheltered spot and a small Sarcococca. Clematis cirrhosa 'Freckles' is
covered in flowers.

Snip

Janet G (South Lincs)


Janet
What's the secret to growing Clematis cirrhosa 'Freckles'?
Everytime I try I kill it, even though I can grow virtually every other
Clematis with no problems.

Steve



Janet Galpin and Oliver Patterson 01-01-2004 02:08 PM

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from "Stephen Williams" contains
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sheltered spot and a small Sarcococca. Clematis cirrhosa 'Freckles' is
covered in flowers.

Snip


Janet G (South Lincs)


Janet
What's the secret to growing Clematis cirrhosa 'Freckles'?
Everytime I try I kill it, even though I can grow virtually every other
Clematis with no problems.


Steve


I'm not sure. I have it growing up a short barn wall (about 5' tall).
The wall faces east. There is no shade or protection for the lower parts
of the plant as you would normally expect for Clematis but the whole
area is a bit protected (in an otherwise windswept fenland garden) in
that there is another short wall facing it about 6 ' away to the east
and one side of a greenhouse to the south. The bed is very free-draining
as you'd expext at the base of a wall, but there's a leak in the
guttering just above so it sometimes gets gushed at.

I'm afraid none of that is at all conclusive unless the combination of
light free-draining soil, occasional dousings and a certain amount of
shelter, yet open position is significant.
It took off from the day it was planted in April 1999 and I bought it as
a very young plant mail order from Buckingham Nurseries. It has never
been fertilised or pruned and in fact thrives on total neglect.

I have given every biy of information I can think of in the hope that
some secret lies within it!

Good luck

Janet G


Stephen Williams 02-01-2004 11:32 AM

And flowering in the Christmas Day garden........?
 

"Janet Galpin and Oliver Patterson" wrote in
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sheltered spot and a small Sarcococca. Clematis cirrhosa 'Freckles' is
covered in flowers.

Snip


Janet G (South Lincs)


Janet
What's the secret to growing Clematis cirrhosa 'Freckles'?
Everytime I try I kill it, even though I can grow virtually every other
Clematis with no problems.


Steve


I'm not sure. I have it growing up a short barn wall (about 5' tall).
The wall faces east. There is no shade or protection for the lower parts
of the plant as you would normally expect for Clematis but the whole
area is a bit protected (in an otherwise windswept fenland garden) in
that there is another short wall facing it about 6 ' away to the east
and one side of a greenhouse to the south. The bed is very free-draining
as you'd expext at the base of a wall, but there's a leak in the
guttering just above so it sometimes gets gushed at.

I'm afraid none of that is at all conclusive unless the combination of
light free-draining soil, occasional dousings and a certain amount of
shelter, yet open position is significant.
It took off from the day it was planted in April 1999 and I bought it as
a very young plant mail order from Buckingham Nurseries. It has never
been fertilised or pruned and in fact thrives on total neglect.

I have given every biy of information I can think of in the hope that
some secret lies within it!

Good luck

Janet G


Thanks Janet,

I'm on clay, which seems to help every other Clematis in the garden - so
free draining it isn't, particularly at this time of year. I guess I'll
have to try it in a large pot and see if that works.

Steve



Charlie Pridham 02-01-2004 06:33 PM

And flowering in the Christmas Day garden........?
 

"Stephen Williams" wrote in message
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sheltered spot and a small Sarcococca. Clematis cirrhosa 'Freckles' is
covered in flowers.

Snip

Janet G (South Lincs)


Janet
What's the secret to growing Clematis cirrhosa 'Freckles'?
Everytime I try I kill it, even though I can grow virtually every other
Clematis with no problems.

Steve

Good drainage, Full light, and not too frosty and plant in late spring not
autumn.
other than that its abit too easy! :~)

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Sacha 02-01-2004 08:34 PM

And flowering in the Christmas Day garden........?
 
Charlie Pridham2/1/04 10:02


"Stephen Williams" wrote in message
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Janet
What's the secret to growing Clematis cirrhosa 'Freckles'?
Everytime I try I kill it, even though I can grow virtually every other
Clematis with no problems.

Steve

Good drainage, Full light, and not too frosty and plant in late spring not
autumn.
other than that its abit too easy! :~)


I'm wondering what *specific* problem the OP is finding with this Clematis?
Is it that it just doesn't grow *at all* or is it that its habit is
different to that of most well known Clematis? IOW, it flowers at the top,
not all the way up? Just a thought.
One of our friends grows hers on a low fence, no more than 5' high on the
garden side and about 8' on the road side and trains it all the way along.
It looks *wonderful*, grown like that.
The other possibility is that he is growing it in a patch where Clematis
wilt has already occurred so needs to find a new site.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
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Stephen Williams 02-01-2004 11:03 PM

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I'm wondering what *specific* problem the OP is finding with this

Clematis?
Is it that it just doesn't grow *at all*

Snip

Thats the problem - starts to grow and then by spring has turned up its
toes....

Snip

The other possibility is that he is growing it in a patch where Clematis
wilt has already occurred so needs to find a new site.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon


I have tried it a border where there have not been any Clematis before and
it is south west facing with shade at the roots.
In similar border about 25 feet (or 7.625mtrs) away there is a Montana that
blooms prolifically each year. Is 25 feet too close?

Steve
By the way I garden in Worcestershire where we do have some frosts, but I
currently have a Pelargonium in flower in the same border as I was trying to
grow the Clematis, so the frosts haven't been that bad yet.



Sacha 03-01-2004 12:16 AM

And flowering in the Christmas Day garden........?
 
Stephen Williams2/1/04 10:56

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I'm wondering what *specific* problem the OP is finding with this

Clematis?
Is it that it just doesn't grow *at all*

Snip

Thats the problem - starts to grow and then by spring has turned up its
toes....


Without further info that *sounds* like Clematis wilt. I can only suggest
you don't try any more Clematis in that particular area.

Snip

The other possibility is that he is growing it in a patch where Clematis
wilt has already occurred so needs to find a new site.

snip

I have tried it a border where there have not been any Clematis before and
it is south west facing with shade at the roots.
In similar border about 25 feet (or 7.625mtrs) away there is a Montana that
blooms prolifically each year. Is 25 feet too close?


Heavens, no! One can grow Clematis all tangled up together but preferably
with the same pruning requirements! Without any specialist knowledge, I can
only tell you what many gardeners will" some plants will flag in one spot
but move them 6' and they'll flourish.
Clematis don't like to have very dry roots (I mention that, just in case
yours is in a rain shadow and not being watered enough) and, as you've
observed, they do like to have them shaded.
It might be worth your while finding a specialist Clematis grower and asking
their opinion.


By the way I garden in Worcestershire where we do have some frosts, but I
currently have a Pelargonium in flower in the same border as I was trying to
grow the Clematis, so the frosts haven't been that bad yet.


SOME frosts! I was at school in W. Malvern in the winter of '63.......
;-)
--

Sacha
(remove the 'x' to email me)



Rusty Hinge 03-01-2004 02:03 AM

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SOME frosts! I was at school in W. Malvern in the winter of '63.......


And I hitch-hiked from Essex to Mallaig, the snow chasing me up the
country. It caught up with me near Shap, and the Glaswegian returning
home for Hogmanay asked me to go and sit over the axle of the Standard
van he was driving 'fur a baitterrrrr grup. An' I jist hope we dinnae
meet an artic comin' doon sideways......"

We hit the bottom of the hill ay 60, in a blizzard with not a lot of
visibility. I knew Shap well, and had seen the holes in the wall beside
the road where lorries which had lost their brakes had gone through -
and down.

I think I might just have used up one of my lives that nicht.

Mallaig? Warm, no snow, gorse^^^sorry, whin in bloom.

In the bar, some fishermen were chaffing and one of them asked me
politely if I minded if they continued to speak in Gaelic. I replied
that it was their bar, I was quite happy.

One of them said something rather funny and I smiled.

Well, I was in. I retired to my tent with a lot of new Gelic phrases,
many of which might not have pleased the meenister, and retired to my
tent. Shortly afterwards arrived the first of the first-footers, and my
wee two-man tent never had less than four people in it until about five
in the morning.

Dammit! I've missed *ANOTHER* Highland Hogmanay!

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
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