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Franz Heymann 04-01-2004 11:05 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 

"fumier" wrote in message
...
Well developed holly, pride and joy near front door has developed a
dirty/sooty mold since the summer. Back of leaves has white
"seedy"/pupae c.2mm, now dead. Have treated with usual glyphosates.


What on earth do you mean by "treated with usual glyphosates"? Glyphosate
is a herbicide which will kill the plant

Never had any berries. All advice gratefully received.
David


Franz



Rusty Hinge1 04-01-2004 11:34 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
The message
from fumier contains these words:

Well developed holly, pride and joy near front door has developed a
dirty/sooty mold since the summer. Back of leaves has white
"seedy"/pupae c.2mm, now dead. Have treated with usual glyphosates.
Never had any berries. All advice gratefully received.


You've treated it with *WHAT*, David? Roundup is only for killing plants
and corralling cattle.

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Martin Brown 05-01-2004 11:42 AM

Sooty growth on holly
 
In message , Franz Heymann
writes

"fumier" wrote in message
...
Well developed holly, pride and joy near front door has developed a
dirty/sooty mold since the summer. Back of leaves has white
"seedy"/pupae c.2mm, now dead. Have treated with usual glyphosates.


What on earth do you mean by "treated with usual glyphosates"? Glyphosate
is a herbicide which will kill the plant


Indeed. Though I have known holly seedlings in the orchard survive
glyphosate application I would not risk it on a specimen plant! Their
waxy coat appears to resist the wetting agent rather well.

The black stuff he describes is probably an opportunistic sooty mould
growing on honeydew from some aphid or scale infestation.

Never had any berries. All advice gratefully received.


Has it ever flowered? Could be a male. They don't.

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

Jaques d'Alltrades 06-01-2004 03:33 AM

Sooty growth on holly
 
The message
from Martin Brown contains these words:

Never had any berries. All advice gratefully received.


Has it ever flowered? Could be a male. They don't.


They do. Well, they do flower, but not, being male, berry.

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Jaques d'Alltrades 06-01-2004 04:03 AM

Sooty growth on holly
 
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from Martin Brown contains these words:

Never had any berries. All advice gratefully received.


Has it ever flowered? Could be a male. They don't.


They do. Well, they do flower, but not, being male, berry.

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fumier 06-01-2004 06:13 AM

Sooty growth on holly
 
Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading

TIA - David
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Anthony Anson 06-01-2004 11:46 AM

Sooty growth on holly
 
The message
from fumier contains these words:

Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading


Try Bordeaux mixture.

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Anthony Anson 06-01-2004 11:46 AM

Sooty growth on holly
 
The message
from fumier contains these words:

Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading


Try Bordeaux mixture.

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Anthony Anson 06-01-2004 11:54 AM

Sooty growth on holly
 
The message
from fumier contains these words:

Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading


Try Bordeaux mixture.

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Anthony Anson 06-01-2004 11:54 AM

Sooty growth on holly
 
The message
from fumier contains these words:

Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading


Try Bordeaux mixture.

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Martin Brown 06-01-2004 07:58 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
In message , fumier
writes
Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading


You can clean the soot off and the honeydew it is growing on with any
simple wetting agent and water. The problem is some waxy plants like
holly and bay that get sooty moulds do not like losing their waxy
coating and will shed their leaves if cleaned too vigorously.

The sooty mould is only cosmetic on the surface it doesn't harm the
plant.

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

Martin Brown 06-01-2004 08:43 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
In message , fumier
writes
Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading


You can clean the soot off and the honeydew it is growing on with any
simple wetting agent and water. The problem is some waxy plants like
holly and bay that get sooty moulds do not like losing their waxy
coating and will shed their leaves if cleaned too vigorously.

The sooty mould is only cosmetic on the surface it doesn't harm the
plant.

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

Martin Brown 06-01-2004 08:51 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
In message , fumier
writes
Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading


You can clean the soot off and the honeydew it is growing on with any
simple wetting agent and water. The problem is some waxy plants like
holly and bay that get sooty moulds do not like losing their waxy
coating and will shed their leaves if cleaned too vigorously.

The sooty mould is only cosmetic on the surface it doesn't harm the
plant.

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

Martin Brown 06-01-2004 09:03 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
In message , fumier
writes
Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading


You can clean the soot off and the honeydew it is growing on with any
simple wetting agent and water. The problem is some waxy plants like
holly and bay that get sooty moulds do not like losing their waxy
coating and will shed their leaves if cleaned too vigorously.

The sooty mould is only cosmetic on the surface it doesn't harm the
plant.

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

Martin Brown 06-01-2004 09:30 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
In message , fumier
writes
Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading


You can clean the soot off and the honeydew it is growing on with any
simple wetting agent and water. The problem is some waxy plants like
holly and bay that get sooty moulds do not like losing their waxy
coating and will shed their leaves if cleaned too vigorously.

The sooty mould is only cosmetic on the surface it doesn't harm the
plant.

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

Rod 07-01-2004 10:07 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
Anthony Anson wrote:

The message
from fumier contains these words:

Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading


Try Bordeaux mixture.

That might kill the mould but it won't do anything for the real problem which is
probably scale insects. A systemic insecticide applied to the soil (like
Bio-Provado) might help. It will work better in spring when things are growing
fast.
--
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Rod 07-01-2004 10:10 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
Anthony Anson wrote:

The message
from fumier contains these words:

Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading


Try Bordeaux mixture.

That might kill the mould but it won't do anything for the real problem which is
probably scale insects. A systemic insecticide applied to the soil (like
Bio-Provado) might help. It will work better in spring when things are growing
fast.
--
Rod
http://website.lineone.net/%7Erodcraddock/index.html
My email address needs weeding.

Rod 07-01-2004 10:10 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
Anthony Anson wrote:

The message
from fumier contains these words:

Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading


Try Bordeaux mixture.

That might kill the mould but it won't do anything for the real problem which is
probably scale insects. A systemic insecticide applied to the soil (like
Bio-Provado) might help. It will work better in spring when things are growing
fast.
--
Rod
http://website.lineone.net/%7Erodcraddock/index.html
My email address needs weeding.

Rod 07-01-2004 10:10 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
Anthony Anson wrote:

The message
from fumier contains these words:

Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading


Try Bordeaux mixture.

That might kill the mould but it won't do anything for the real problem which is
probably scale insects. A systemic insecticide applied to the soil (like
Bio-Provado) might help. It will work better in spring when things are growing
fast.
--
Rod
http://website.lineone.net/%7Erodcraddock/index.html
My email address needs weeding.

Rod 07-01-2004 10:10 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
Anthony Anson wrote:

The message
from fumier contains these words:

Ooops, too much Agent Orange on Sunday nights! I think I used B&Q's
aphid killer. Any serious suggestions, please? "Soot" seems to be
spreading


Try Bordeaux mixture.

That might kill the mould but it won't do anything for the real problem which is
probably scale insects. A systemic insecticide applied to the soil (like
Bio-Provado) might help. It will work better in spring when things are growing
fast.
--
Rod
http://website.lineone.net/%7Erodcraddock/index.html
My email address needs weeding.

Mike 07-01-2004 10:11 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
'Sooty' growth on 'Holly'? Well get 'Harry Corbet' to 'Sweep' her off.

Well someone had to;-{

Happy and Prosperous New Year if I am not toooooo late.

Mike



Mike 07-01-2004 10:11 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
'Sooty' growth on 'Holly'? Well get 'Harry Corbet' to 'Sweep' her off.

Well someone had to;-{

Happy and Prosperous New Year if I am not toooooo late.

Mike



Mike 07-01-2004 10:11 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
'Sooty' growth on 'Holly'? Well get 'Harry Corbet' to 'Sweep' her off.

Well someone had to;-{

Happy and Prosperous New Year if I am not toooooo late.

Mike



Mike 07-01-2004 10:11 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
'Sooty' growth on 'Holly'? Well get 'Harry Corbet' to 'Sweep' her off.

Well someone had to;-{

Happy and Prosperous New Year if I am not toooooo late.

Mike



fumier 07-01-2004 10:12 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
Thanks to all contributors. As I said on Sunday, there is some form of
aphid growth on the back of the leaves, small white lavae (2mm) now
dead but "soot" seems to be spreading.

David

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fumier 07-01-2004 10:12 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
Thanks to all contributors. As I said on Sunday, there is some form of
aphid growth on the back of the leaves, small white lavae (2mm) now
dead but "soot" seems to be spreading.

David

--
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I don't live here!!

fumier 07-01-2004 10:18 PM

Sooty growth on holly
 
Thanks to all contributors. As I said on Sunday, there is some form of
aphid growth on the back of the leaves, small white lavae (2mm) now
dead but "soot" seems to be spreading.

David

--
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I don't live here!!


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