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tony 13-01-2004 02:04 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 
When are we going to get rid of the political cross-posting from this group
and get back to the topic of GARDENING?
Tony



Kay Easton 13-01-2004 03:32 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 
In article , tony
writes
When are we going to get rid of the political cross-posting from this group
and get back to the topic of GARDENING?


There is no way to stop people from other ngs from cross posting in
here. Kill the thread, and don't waste time grumbling about it.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Nick Wagg 13-01-2004 03:42 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 
tony wrote:

When are we going to get rid of the political cross-posting from this
group and get back to the topic of GARDENING?


The political cross-posts and various flames and trolls are not from
the regular contributors to u.r.g. but from a group of people who
delight in spoiling other people's fun.

Really, the only thing we can do is to ignore them and hope they will
go away. They thrive when old (and young) fogeys like us take umbrage
and shake our metaphorical sticks at them.

Of course, if you really know what you are doing you might be able to
track them down and report them for abuse to their ISPs but they
probably do all their dirty work from anonymous accounts and cyber
cafes, in which case there is nothing you can do because they aren't
breaking any laws.

It's a consequence of anonymity and power without responsibility or
answerability!
--
Nick Wagg

Thighbone Lee Jackson 13-01-2004 04:07 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:32:42 +0000, Nick Wagg
wrote:

tony wrote:

When are we going to get rid of the political cross-posting from this
group and get back to the topic of GARDENING?


The political cross-posts and various flames and trolls are not from
the regular contributors to u.r.g. but from a group of people who
delight in spoiling other people's fun.

Really, the only thing we can do is to ignore them and hope they will
go away. They thrive when old (and young) fogeys like us take umbrage
and shake our metaphorical sticks at them.

Of course, if you really know what you are doing you might be able to
track them down and report them for abuse to their ISPs but they
probably do all their dirty work from anonymous accounts and cyber
cafes, in which case there is nothing you can do because they aren't
breaking any laws.

It's a consequence of anonymity and power without responsibility or
answerability!


If you want to live in a secluded world where only like minded idiots
frequent, why not start your own moderated group?

Only do it in secret please, most of us really don't care.
















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Mike 13-01-2004 04:34 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 

"tony" wrote in message
...
When are we going to get rid of the political cross-posting from this

group
and get back to the topic of GARDENING?
Tony


But there have always been politics in the garden as Flanders and Swann
realised:-

The fragrant Honeysuckle spirals clockwise to the sun
and many other creepers do the same
But some climb anticlockwise,
the Bindweed does for one,
or Convolvulus, to give her proper name.
Rooted on either side a door
one of each species grew
and raced up to the window ledge above
Each corkscrewed to the lintel in the only way it knew
where they stopped, touched tendrils, smiled
and fell in love.

Said the right-handed Honeysuckle to the left handed Bindweed
'oh let us get married if our parents don't mind we'd
be loving and inseparable, inextricably entwined we'd
live happily ever after' said the Honeysuckle to the Bindweed.

To the Honeysuckle's parents it came as a shock,
the Bindweeds, they cried, 'are inferior stock,
They're uncultivated, of breeding bereft
We twine to the right and they twine to the left'.

Said the anticlockwise Bindweed to the clockwise Honeysuckle;
'We'd better start saving
Many a mickle mac's a muckle
Then run away on a honeymoon and hope that out luck'll
take a turn for the better', said the Bindweed to the Honeysuckle.

A bee who was passing exclaimed to them then;
'I've said it before and I'll say it again
Consider your offshoots, if offshoots there be,
They'll never receive any blessing from me'.
Poor little sucker, how will it learn
When it is climbing, which way to turn,
Right, Left, what a disgrace
Our it may go straight up and fall flat on its face.

Said the right-hand thread Honeysuckle to the left-hand thread Bindweed
'It seems that against us all fate has combined
Oh my darling, oh my darling
Oh my darling Columbine
thou art lost and gone forever
We shall never intertwine'.

Together they found them, the very next day
They had pulled up their roots and just shrivelled away
Deprived of that freedom for which we must fight
To veer to the left or to veer to the right.



Mike ;-))



Gary Woods 13-01-2004 05:02 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 
"Mike" wrote:

Together they found them, the very next day
They had pulled up their roots and just shrivelled away
Deprived of that freedom for which we must fight
To veer to the left or to veer to the right.


And to think I only knew them for "Madeira M'Dear" and something about a
motor bus...



Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Mike 13-01-2004 06:05 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 


"Gary Woods" wrote in message
...
"Mike" wrote:

Together they found them, the very next day
They had pulled up their roots and just shrivelled away
Deprived of that freedom for which we must fight
To veer to the left or to veer to the right.


And to think I only knew them for "Madeira M'Dear" and something about a
motor bus...



Mud, Mud, Glorious Mud etc

My thanks to

http://timothyplatypus.tripod.com/FaS/

for the posting I made.

Mike

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G




shazzbat 13-01-2004 07:04 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 

"Mike" wrote in message
...


"Gary Woods" wrote in message
...
"Mike" wrote:

Together they found them, the very next day
They had pulled up their roots and just shrivelled away
Deprived of that freedom for which we must fight
To veer to the left or to veer to the right.


And to think I only knew them for "Madeira M'Dear" and something about a
motor bus...



Mud, Mud, Glorious Mud etc

My thanks to

And wasn't it them who did something along the lines of " I'm a Gnu"?

Nice one though mike, I haven't heard anything of theirs for some time.

Steve



Gary Woods 13-01-2004 07:33 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 
"Mike" wrote:

Mud, Mud, Glorious Mud etc


Ah, yes... I made a major impression with a lady friend who took me to a
local concert when I picked up on the intro and joined happily in on the
chorus.... "You know _that_?"

At least, mud is quasi-gardening related, no?

And I do have a pond with lots of mud in it, just down past the garden; no
hippopotami, though.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Mary Fisher 13-01-2004 08:13 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , tony
writes
When are we going to get rid of the political cross-posting from this

group
and get back to the topic of GARDENING?


There is no way to stop people from other ngs from cross posting in
here.


Apparently there is, I have instructions but haven't got round to using them
yet because I recognise and nuke. I can post the details here if anyone
asks.

Mary



Cerumen 13-01-2004 08:42 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , tony
writes
When are we going to get rid of the political cross-posting from this

group
and get back to the topic of GARDENING?


There is no way to stop people from other ngs from cross posting in
here. Kill the thread, and don't waste time grumbling about it.

Agree absolutely, kill the crossposter, kill the thread and all is normal
again.


--
Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland





David Hill 13-01-2004 11:06 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 
Surely this thread is a good example of "Non Gardening " political (Not
party Political) ramblings.

As has been said so often before, a garden thrives with applications of
S***(Manure) every so often.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk





Jaques d'Alltrades 13-01-2004 11:38 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 
The message
from "tony" contains these words:

When are we going to get rid of the political cross-posting from this group
and get back to the topic of GARDENING?


What political posting from this group? If there is any, it's falling
into my killfile, and I'd guess it's being posted *TO*, not from.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Jaques d'Alltrades 14-01-2004 05:42 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 
The message
from Gary Woods contains these words:
"Mike" wrote:


Together they found them, the very next day
They had pulled up their roots and just shrivelled away
Deprived of that freedom for which we must fight
To veer to the left or to veer to the right.


And to think I only knew them for "Madeira M'Dear" and something about a
motor bus...


I'm sure you know the Hippopotamus song (Mud, Mud.....)
"I'm a - - G-nu....."
"'Twas on the Monday Morning, the Gasman came..."

and a lot more - I can thoroughly recommend the 3 CD set - At the Drop
of a Hat, At the Drop of Another Hat, and The Bestiary.

Probably obtainable from your local library.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Jaques d'Alltrades 14-01-2004 05:42 PM

Is this a political forum or a gardening newsgroup?
 
The message
from Gary Woods contains these words:
"Mike" wrote:


Mud, Mud, Glorious Mud etc


Ah, yes... I made a major impression with a lady friend who took me to a
local concert when I picked up on the intro and joined happily in on the
chorus.... "You know _that_?"


At least, mud is quasi-gardening related, no?


And I do have a pond with lots of mud in it, just down past the garden; no
hippopotami, though.


Plant rhubarb round it and they'll probably come and nest in it.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/


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