Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

Plum

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

Plum wrote:
Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

I'm new here, so feel free to ignore, but if my neighbour asked me if I minded him cutting a bit off my tree, I would take offence at him then coming around to me with an invoice.

Kae

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:34:01 -0000, Plum wrote:

Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

Be grateful that your neighbor is being so cooperative. Pay the
cost yourself and let it go at that.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:34:01 -0000, Plum wrote:

Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

Be grateful that your neighbor is being so cooperative. Pay the
cost yourself and let it go at that.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:34:01 -0000, Plum wrote:

Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

Be grateful that your neighbor is being so cooperative. Pay the
cost yourself and let it go at that.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:34:01 -0000, Plum wrote:

Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

Be grateful that your neighbor is being so cooperative. Pay the
cost yourself and let it go at that.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

"Plum" wrote in message
...
Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees
which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being
trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?


Pay up and shut up!

He is obliged to do nothing unless there is damage being caused to buildings
etc.

I've asked my neighbour to crown lift and thin a 35 foot walnut and cut back
a once neatly trimmed holly. He sees the benefit to him as well as me and we
are splitting the cost (£270) 50:50.

In truth the neighbour has no say and no rights if you want to cut back the
overhanging branches. You have done more than you are obliged to do.

pk

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

Kae Verens wrote in message ...
Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

I'm new here, so feel free to ignore, but if my neighbour asked me if I minded him cutting a bit off my tree, I would take offence at him then coming around to me with an invoice.

Kae

I am also new here and brand new to gardening but i am under the
impression that you are responsible for your plants and making sure
they dont impinge on anyone elses pleasure. Sounds like these trees
need a bit of a trim to keep them from falling over in the next bit of
wind anyway.
sarah

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

In article , sahara
writes
Kae Verens wrote in message news:z1kRb.318$rb.461
...
Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

I'm new here, so feel free to ignore, but if my neighbour asked me if I minded
him cutting a bit off my tree, I would take offence at him then coming around to
me with an invoice.

Kae

I am also new here and brand new to gardening but i am under the
impression that you are responsible for your plants and making sure
they dont impinge on anyone elses pleasure.

No, not legally. They are entitled to trim overhanging branches, which
they must offer back to you since they are your property, but you don't
have a legal responsibility to keep your trees within your boundary.

What you do to enhance neighbourly relations is another matter.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

"Plum" wrote in message
...
Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees
which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being
trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

It depends entirely on whether you want to remain on friendly terms with
yourneighbour.

Franz

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

The message
from lid (Rodger Whitlock) contains these words:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:34:01 -0000, Plum wrote:

Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old
trees which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being
trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

Be grateful that your neighbor is being so cooperative. Pay the
cost yourself and let it go at that.

And don't forget that the law requires you to offer the cut branches to
your neighbour as they are his property.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:34:01 -0000, "Plum"
wrote:

Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

Tell me about protection orders. Something like being designated a
historical site?

In the US, and elsewere as far as I've been able to determine from
these discussions, anything overhanging one's property 'belongs' to
that property. However, since it's *you* who wants it cut, I don't see
why *he* should pay. Ex-(fortunately) neighbors sheared a pretty
dogwood tree precisely along the property line, which was presumably
their right. Had they asked for me to *pay* for this, I'd've...done
something outrageous.

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

The message
from "Plum" contains these words:

Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

The most important thing is to keep friendly relations with
neighbours. You're ahead of the game in that you have pleasantly asked
for his agreement and he has pleasantly given it (even though you were
legally entitled to trim the overhang without his consent). The benefit
will be yours so I certainly wouldn't expect him to pay the full cost or
even half of it. It would be nice if he volunteered some minor
contribution as a token of good will, and perhaps there's a way you can
very tactfully give him that opportunity.

Get your contractor to give you a two-part quotation for trimming and
removal of the rubbish. Then give the neighbour notice of when the work
will start on his tree (they may require access on his side), and say "
Legally I'm supposed to offer the cut branches back to you..but if you
don't want them, I can pay the contractor to take them away". I'd go no
further than that; and leave it in his hands. If you're lucky, by the
time the work gets done he might have decided to contribute towards the
disposal cost.

Or if one of your gardens is big enough, he might just say "Tell the
contractor to leave it, and I'll give you a hand with the bonfire" :-)

Janet.

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

The message
from "Plum" contains these words:

Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

The most important thing is to keep friendly relations with
neighbours. You're ahead of the game in that you have pleasantly asked
for his agreement and he has pleasantly given it (even though you were
legally entitled to trim the overhang without his consent). The benefit
will be yours so I certainly wouldn't expect him to pay the full cost or
even half of it. It would be nice if he volunteered some minor
contribution as a token of good will, and perhaps there's a way you can
very tactfully give him that opportunity.

Get your contractor to give you a two-part quotation for trimming and
removal of the rubbish. Then give the neighbour notice of when the work
will start on his tree (they may require access on his side), and say "
Legally I'm supposed to offer the cut branches back to you..but if you
don't want them, I can pay the contractor to take them away". I'd go no
further than that; and leave it in his hands. If you're lucky, by the
time the work gets done he might have decided to contribute towards the
disposal cost.

Or if one of your gardens is big enough, he might just say "Tell the
contractor to leave it, and I'll give you a hand with the bonfire" :-)

Janet.

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

The message
from "Plum" contains these words:

Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

The most important thing is to keep friendly relations with
neighbours. You're ahead of the game in that you have pleasantly asked
for his agreement and he has pleasantly given it (even though you were
legally entitled to trim the overhang without his consent). The benefit
will be yours so I certainly wouldn't expect him to pay the full cost or
even half of it. It would be nice if he volunteered some minor
contribution as a token of good will, and perhaps there's a way you can
very tactfully give him that opportunity.

Get your contractor to give you a two-part quotation for trimming and
removal of the rubbish. Then give the neighbour notice of when the work
will start on his tree (they may require access on his side), and say "
Legally I'm supposed to offer the cut branches back to you..but if you
don't want them, I can pay the contractor to take them away". I'd go no
further than that; and leave it in his hands. If you're lucky, by the
time the work gets done he might have decided to contribute towards the
disposal cost.

Or if one of your gardens is big enough, he might just say "Tell the
contractor to leave it, and I'll give you a hand with the bonfire" :-)

Janet.

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

The message
from "Plum" contains these words:

Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?

The most important thing is to keep friendly relations with
neighbours. You're ahead of the game in that you have pleasantly asked
for his agreement and he has pleasantly given it (even though you were
legally entitled to trim the overhang without his consent). The benefit
will be yours so I certainly wouldn't expect him to pay the full cost or
even half of it. It would be nice if he volunteered some minor
contribution as a token of good will, and perhaps there's a way you can
very tactfully give him that opportunity.

Get your contractor to give you a two-part quotation for trimming and
removal of the rubbish. Then give the neighbour notice of when the work
will start on his tree (they may require access on his side), and say "
Legally I'm supposed to offer the cut branches back to you..but if you
don't want them, I can pay the contractor to take them away". I'd go no
further than that; and leave it in his hands. If you're lucky, by the
time the work gets done he might have decided to contribute towards the
disposal cost.

Or if one of your gardens is big enough, he might just say "Tell the
contractor to leave it, and I'll give you a hand with the bonfire" :-)

Janet.

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

Plum27/1/04 12:34
Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?


I don't think you can really ask him to contribute. It's not bothering him,
is it? You've asked nicely, he's answered nicely, giving you permission to
perform radical surgery on his possession, so I'd say that's square. Sounds
to me as if both of you have got off to a very good start as neighbours.

Be aware, though, that yew grows back. It will take a while, of course, but
at some stage in the future, you will have to do the same thing again. So,
while you're all on good terms (you, neighbour, council) I would suggest you
clear it with all concerned that you can keep the tree trimmed to where it
ends up after surgery.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the 'xzy' to email me)

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

Plum27/1/04 12:34
Our garden and the surrounding area contains lots of lovely old trees which
are subject to protection orders. I've got council permission to trim back
some of the lower branches of a big old yew tree which is leaning from the
adjoining garden. Some of the branches come six feet or so over into our
garden. The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?


I don't think you can really ask him to contribute. It's not bothering him,
is it? You've asked nicely, he's answered nicely, giving you permission to
perform radical surgery on his possession, so I'd say that's square. Sounds
to me as if both of you have got off to a very good start as neighbours.

Be aware, though, that yew grows back. It will take a while, of course, but
at some stage in the future, you will have to do the same thing again. So,
while you're all on good terms (you, neighbour, council) I would suggest you
clear it with all concerned that you can keep the tree trimmed to where it
ends up after surgery.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the 'xzy' to email me)

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

The message
from Frogleg contains these words:

Tell me about protection orders. Something like being designated a
historical site?

Tree Protection Orders. They may be made to preserve a tree or trees
which are considered (often by some idiot, and often, not) to have
amenity value of some sort.

In the US, and elsewere as far as I've been able to determine from
these discussions, anything overhanging one's property 'belongs' to
that property. However, since it's *you* who wants it cut, I don't see
why *he* should pay. Ex-(fortunately) neighbors sheared a pretty
dogwood tree precisely along the property line, which was presumably
their right. Had they asked for me to *pay* for this, I'd've...done
something outrageous.

In the UK, it depends to whom the tree belongs: own the trunk, own all
the branches, leaves etc. Problems arise if the tree is actually growing
on the boundary.....

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay
up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?


Thanks to all who've volunteered an opinion.

Plum

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:39:52 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

from Frogleg contains these words:


In the US, and elsewere as far as I've been able to determine from
these discussions, anything overhanging one's property 'belongs' to
that property.

In the UK, it depends to whom the tree belongs: own the trunk, own all
the branches, leaves etc. Problems arise if the tree is actually growing
on the boundary.....

The history of tree disputes could surely make a good doctoral thesis.
One wonders why anyone has them at all. :-) One person's shady oak is
another's source of nuisance leaves and acorns.

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

The owner of the tree has also agreed to the branches being trimmed,
but has said nothing about contributing to the cost. Should I just pay
up
and shut up, or should the owner contribute?


Thanks to all who've volunteered an opinion.

Plum

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:39:52 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

from Frogleg contains these words:


In the US, and elsewere as far as I've been able to determine from
these discussions, anything overhanging one's property 'belongs' to
that property.

In the UK, it depends to whom the tree belongs: own the trunk, own all
the branches, leaves etc. Problems arise if the tree is actually growing
on the boundary.....

The history of tree disputes could surely make a good doctoral thesis.
One wonders why anyone has them at all. :-) One person's shady oak is
another's source of nuisance leaves and acorns.

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

"Frogleg" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:39:52 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

from Frogleg contains these words:


In the US, and elsewere as far as I've been able to determine from
these discussions, anything overhanging one's property 'belongs' to
that property.

In the UK, it depends to whom the tree belongs: own the trunk, own all
the branches, leaves etc. Problems arise if the tree is actually growing
on the boundary.....

The history of tree disputes could surely make a good doctoral thesis.
One wonders why anyone has them at all. :-) One person's shady oak is
another's source of nuisance leaves and acorns.

The one with the biggest nuisance value is surely the ash. The one just on
the other side of my boundary maliciously sheds its seeds slowly and
continuously all through the winter. Each summer I have to deal with
hundreds of ash seedlings.

Franz

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

"Frogleg" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:39:52 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

from Frogleg contains these words:


In the US, and elsewere as far as I've been able to determine from
these discussions, anything overhanging one's property 'belongs' to
that property.

In the UK, it depends to whom the tree belongs: own the trunk, own all
the branches, leaves etc. Problems arise if the tree is actually growing
on the boundary.....

The history of tree disputes could surely make a good doctoral thesis.
One wonders why anyone has them at all. :-) One person's shady oak is
another's source of nuisance leaves and acorns.

The one with the biggest nuisance value is surely the ash. The one just on
the other side of my boundary maliciously sheds its seeds slowly and
continuously all through the winter. Each summer I have to deal with
hundreds of ash seedlings.

Franz

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

The message
from Frogleg contains these words:

The history of tree disputes could surely make a good doctoral thesis.
One wonders why anyone has them at all. :-) One person's shady oak is
another's source of nuisance leaves and acorns.

Hmmmmm. That's not a bad idea......

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

The message
from Frogleg contains these words:

The history of tree disputes could surely make a good doctoral thesis.
One wonders why anyone has them at all. :-) One person's shady oak is
another's source of nuisance leaves and acorns.

Hmmmmm. That's not a bad idea......

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

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The message
from Frogleg contains these words:


The history of tree disputes could surely make a good doctoral thesis.
One wonders why anyone has them at all. :-)

Historically trees were markers of land ownership, social and economic
power and religious belief....see Oliver Rackham's books for relevant
research.

Janet

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:09:29 +0000 (UTC), Franz Heymann wrote:

"Frogleg" wrote in message
...

The history of tree disputes could surely make a good doctoral thesis.
One wonders why anyone has them at all. :-) One person's shady oak is
another's source of nuisance leaves and acorns.

The one with the biggest nuisance value is surely the ash. The one just on
the other side of my boundary maliciously sheds its seeds slowly and
continuously all through the winter. Each summer I have to deal with
hundreds of ash seedlings.

And the worst part is that it is doing so specifically to annoy
*you*. No other ash tree does this kind of thing, only the one
that's been designated your personal tormentor. It is a truly
evil tree, spending hours, days, weeks thinking, where can I drop
my leaves and seeds to most annoy Franz?

Can I interest you in an aluminum foil hat to stop the
brain-control waves sent out by Whitehall and Brussels?















[is joke]


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:09:29 +0000 (UTC), Franz Heymann wrote:

The one with the biggest nuisance value is surely the ash. The one
just on the other side of my boundary maliciously sheds its seeds
slowly and continuously all through the winter. Each summer I have
to deal with hundreds of ash seedlings.



Tell me about it!

Also.... around 8 years ago I put down a play area (bark over fabric) on
what had been a well cultivated vegetable garden.

Kids are older, this winter's project is to convert the area to lawns &
fruit on the fence.

Dug the area last week - immedately under the textile was a mass of ash
roots from a tree afound 15/20m away. A little deeper (through soil that had
been veg plot) were ash roots up to an inch thick.

The seedlings are real buggers. look away for a minute and they are 3 feet
tall among the herbaceous plants and shrubs. Cut then off instead of
grubbing out and they take it as a chllenge worth responding to and grow
back with trebled vigour.

pk

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:01:06 +0000 (UTC), "PK"
wrote:

.... around 8 years ago I put down a play area (bark over fabric) on
what had been a well cultivated vegetable garden.

Kids are older, this winter's project is to convert the area to lawns &
fruit on the fence.

Dug the area last week - immedately under the textile was a mass of ash
roots from a tree afound 15/20m away. A little deeper (through soil that had
been veg plot) were ash roots up to an inch thick.

The seedlings are real buggers. look away for a minute and they are 3 feet
tall among the herbaceous plants and shrubs. Cut then off instead of
grubbing out and they take it as a chllenge worth responding to and grow
back with trebled vigour.

Oh, you must be talking about black walnut (for roots and hardy
saplings) or elm (for a million seedlings). :-)

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:01:06 +0000 (UTC), "PK"
wrote:

.... around 8 years ago I put down a play area (bark over fabric) on
what had been a well cultivated vegetable garden.

Kids are older, this winter's project is to convert the area to lawns &
fruit on the fence.

Dug the area last week - immedately under the textile was a mass of ash
roots from a tree afound 15/20m away. A little deeper (through soil that had
been veg plot) were ash roots up to an inch thick.

The seedlings are real buggers. look away for a minute and they are 3 feet
tall among the herbaceous plants and shrubs. Cut then off instead of
grubbing out and they take it as a chllenge worth responding to and grow
back with trebled vigour.

Oh, you must be talking about black walnut (for roots and hardy
saplings) or elm (for a million seedlings). :-)

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

The message
from lid (Rodger Whitlock) contains these words:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:09:29 +0000 (UTC), Franz Heymann wrote:

The one with the biggest nuisance value is surely the ash. The one
just on
the other side of my boundary maliciously sheds its seeds slowly and
continuously all through the winter. Each summer I have to deal with
hundreds of ash seedlings.

And the worst part is that it is doing so specifically to annoy
*you*. No other ash tree does this kind of thing, only the one
that's been designated your personal tormentor. It is a truly
evil tree, spending hours, days, weeks thinking, where can I drop
my leaves and seeds to most annoy Franz?

Can I interest you in an aluminum foil hat to stop the
brain-control waves sent out by Whitehall and Brussels?

I don't think aluminininininium foil is sufficient for the job. For
Brussels' and Whitehall's rays you need a Sheddi Allyhat at the very
least, though some heavier grades of alumininininium saucepan may work
as a temporary measure.[98]

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

[98] A temporary four-pint is favourite. Anything measured in whisper
yvgerf /whisper is porous to EC-Compliant Rays.

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

The message
from lid (Rodger Whitlock) contains these words:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:09:29 +0000 (UTC), Franz Heymann wrote:

The one with the biggest nuisance value is surely the ash. The one
just on
the other side of my boundary maliciously sheds its seeds slowly and
continuously all through the winter. Each summer I have to deal with
hundreds of ash seedlings.

And the worst part is that it is doing so specifically to annoy
*you*. No other ash tree does this kind of thing, only the one
that's been designated your personal tormentor. It is a truly
evil tree, spending hours, days, weeks thinking, where can I drop
my leaves and seeds to most annoy Franz?

Can I interest you in an aluminum foil hat to stop the
brain-control waves sent out by Whitehall and Brussels?

I don't think aluminininininium foil is sufficient for the job. For
Brussels' and Whitehall's rays you need a Sheddi Allyhat at the very
least, though some heavier grades of alumininininium saucepan may work
as a temporary measure.[98]

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

[98] A temporary four-pint is favourite. Anything measured in whisper
yvgerf /whisper is porous to EC-Compliant Rays.

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

The message
from lid (Rodger Whitlock) contains these words:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:09:29 +0000 (UTC), Franz Heymann wrote:

The one with the biggest nuisance value is surely the ash. The one
just on
the other side of my boundary maliciously sheds its seeds slowly and
continuously all through the winter. Each summer I have to deal with
hundreds of ash seedlings.

And the worst part is that it is doing so specifically to annoy
*you*. No other ash tree does this kind of thing, only the one
that's been designated your personal tormentor. It is a truly
evil tree, spending hours, days, weeks thinking, where can I drop
my leaves and seeds to most annoy Franz?

Can I interest you in an aluminum foil hat to stop the
brain-control waves sent out by Whitehall and Brussels?

I don't think aluminininininium foil is sufficient for the job. For
Brussels' and Whitehall's rays you need a Sheddi Allyhat at the very
least, though some heavier grades of alumininininium saucepan may work
as a temporary measure.[98]

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

[98] A temporary four-pint is favourite. Anything measured in whisper
yvgerf /whisper is porous to EC-Compliant Rays.

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:01:06 +0000 (UTC), PK wrote:

[Ash] seedlings are real buggers. look away for a minute and they are 3 feet
tall among the herbaceous plants and shrubs. Cut then off instead of
grubbing out and they take it as a chllenge worth responding to and grow
back with trebled vigour.

Here in the colonies, the thug with this trick is the Himalayan
blackberry, widely naturalised up and down the Pacific slope.
What it may lack in ultimate size it makes up in thorniness and
the ability of any scrap of root left in the ground to form a new
plant. There's one that I've been trying to remove for ten or
fifteen years without success.

And in my own garden in particular, hazelnuts sown by the
(introduced) gray squirrels are almost as bad, though their
ultimate size is much lesser.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:36:02 GMT, Janet Baraclough ..
wrote:

Frogleg wrote


The history of tree disputes could surely make a good doctoral thesis.
One wonders why anyone has them at all. :-)

Historically trees were markers of land ownership, social and economic
power and religious belief....see Oliver Rackham's books for relevant
research.

But wasn't this in the day when property boundries were measured in
rods and paces, not feet and inches? "From the big oak to the rock
shaped like a seal"? Now, long threads of property/tree disputes
indicate that if *my* tree's trunk grows fat enough to bulge *your*
fence, we have a laswuit on our hands. :-) My neighbor is pretty
peeved that roots of a tree on *my* property which fell in a storm
lifted up a section of *his* back garden. I don't suppose he'd be as
concerned if we both had 20 acres or so, and the trees were Way Out
There.

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:36:02 GMT, Janet Baraclough ..
wrote:

Frogleg wrote


The history of tree disputes could surely make a good doctoral thesis.
One wonders why anyone has them at all. :-)

Historically trees were markers of land ownership, social and economic
power and religious belief....see Oliver Rackham's books for relevant
research.

But wasn't this in the day when property boundries were measured in
rods and paces, not feet and inches? "From the big oak to the rock
shaped like a seal"? Now, long threads of property/tree disputes
indicate that if *my* tree's trunk grows fat enough to bulge *your*
fence, we have a laswuit on our hands. :-) My neighbor is pretty
peeved that roots of a tree on *my* property which fell in a storm
lifted up a section of *his* back garden. I don't suppose he'd be as
concerned if we both had 20 acres or so, and the trees were Way Out
There.

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:36:02 GMT, Janet Baraclough ..
wrote:

Frogleg wrote


The history of tree disputes could surely make a good doctoral thesis.
One wonders why anyone has them at all. :-)

Historically trees were markers of land ownership, social and economic
power and religious belief....see Oliver Rackham's books for relevant
research.

But wasn't this in the day when property boundries were measured in
rods and paces, not feet and inches? "From the big oak to the rock
shaped like a seal"? Now, long threads of property/tree disputes
indicate that if *my* tree's trunk grows fat enough to bulge *your*
fence, we have a laswuit on our hands. :-) My neighbor is pretty
peeved that roots of a tree on *my* property which fell in a storm
lifted up a section of *his* back garden. I don't suppose he'd be as
concerned if we both had 20 acres or so, and the trees were Way Out
There.

Neighbour's tree encroaching
 

"Rodger Whitlock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:09:29 +0000 (UTC), Franz Heymann wrote:

"Frogleg" wrote in message
...

The history of tree disputes could surely make a good doctoral thesis.
One wonders why anyone has them at all. :-) One person's shady oak is
another's source of nuisance leaves and acorns.

The one with the biggest nuisance value is surely the ash. The one just
on
the other side of my boundary maliciously sheds its seeds slowly and
continuously all through the winter. Each summer I have to deal with
hundreds of ash seedlings.

And the worst part is that it is doing so specifically to annoy
*you*. No other ash tree does this kind of thing, only the one
that's been designated your personal tormentor. It is a truly
evil tree, spending hours, days, weeks thinking, where can I drop
my leaves and seeds to most annoy Franz?

Can I interest you in an aluminum foil hat to stop the
brain-control waves sent out by Whitehall and Brussels?
[is joke]

There is no place on the tree which is suitable for putting the hat.

{:-))

Franz

Franz