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Help with ID of tree / shrub
I pass this tree / shrub regularly. And I would like to learn more about
it. Like its name would be a good starting point. With that in mind, I put together a little photo page : http://www.esher.nildram.co.uk/philip/whattree.htm The shape of the fruits and their arrangement made me think of Paulownia tomentosa, but on reading it would seem that the Paulowinia has fluffy seeds to be carried by the wind. While the seeds on 'my' tree are between 0.7cm and 1.5cms long and up to 0.5 cm wide. So definately not dispersed by the wind. I look forward to hearing from anyone who can point me in the right direction. Many thanks Phil |
Help with ID of tree / shrub
Charlie Pridham5/3/04 9:26
"Philip" wrote in message . .. I pass this tree / shrub regularly. And I would like to learn more about it. Like its name would be a good starting point. With that in mind, I put together a little photo page : http://www.esher.nildram.co.uk/philip/whattree.htm The shape of the fruits and their arrangement made me think of Paulownia tomentosa, but on reading it would seem that the Paulowinia has fluffy seeds to be carried by the wind. While the seeds on 'my' tree are between 0.7cm and 1.5cms long and up to 0.5 cm wide. So definately not dispersed by the wind. I look forward to hearing from anyone who can point me in the right direction. Many thanks Phil Right up to the last pic I was certain its a Paulowinia tomentosum but the seed in the pods of these is fine almost dust like, there are however more than one species and I have only ever seen P. tomentosum. My money would be on one of these, especially as it does not seem as big a tree as I would expect P. tomentosum to be at flowering size. -- Charlie, I wonder if you did see the very last pic? The seeds are quite large and there are only two to each pod. What I think you're seeing as small seeds like dust is the reflected light of the camera flash. The seed pic might not have loaded on your computer and isn't in a frame like the other pics. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
Help with ID of tree / shrub
Charlie Pridham5/3/04 9:26
"Philip" wrote in message . .. I pass this tree / shrub regularly. And I would like to learn more about it. Like its name would be a good starting point. With that in mind, I put together a little photo page : http://www.esher.nildram.co.uk/philip/whattree.htm The shape of the fruits and their arrangement made me think of Paulownia tomentosa, but on reading it would seem that the Paulowinia has fluffy seeds to be carried by the wind. While the seeds on 'my' tree are between 0.7cm and 1.5cms long and up to 0.5 cm wide. So definately not dispersed by the wind. I look forward to hearing from anyone who can point me in the right direction. Many thanks Phil Right up to the last pic I was certain its a Paulowinia tomentosum but the seed in the pods of these is fine almost dust like, there are however more than one species and I have only ever seen P. tomentosum. My money would be on one of these, especially as it does not seem as big a tree as I would expect P. tomentosum to be at flowering size. -- Charlie, I wonder if you did see the very last pic? The seeds are quite large and there are only two to each pod. What I think you're seeing as small seeds like dust is the reflected light of the camera flash. The seed pic might not have loaded on your computer and isn't in a frame like the other pics. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
Help with ID of tree / shrub
Charlie Pridham5/3/04 9:26
"Philip" wrote in message . .. I pass this tree / shrub regularly. And I would like to learn more about it. Like its name would be a good starting point. With that in mind, I put together a little photo page : http://www.esher.nildram.co.uk/philip/whattree.htm The shape of the fruits and their arrangement made me think of Paulownia tomentosa, but on reading it would seem that the Paulowinia has fluffy seeds to be carried by the wind. While the seeds on 'my' tree are between 0.7cm and 1.5cms long and up to 0.5 cm wide. So definately not dispersed by the wind. I look forward to hearing from anyone who can point me in the right direction. Many thanks Phil Right up to the last pic I was certain its a Paulowinia tomentosum but the seed in the pods of these is fine almost dust like, there are however more than one species and I have only ever seen P. tomentosum. My money would be on one of these, especially as it does not seem as big a tree as I would expect P. tomentosum to be at flowering size. -- Charlie, I wonder if you did see the very last pic? The seeds are quite large and there are only two to each pod. What I think you're seeing as small seeds like dust is the reflected light of the camera flash. The seed pic might not have loaded on your computer and isn't in a frame like the other pics. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
Help with ID of tree / shrub
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:30:37 -0000, "Philip"
wrote: I pass this tree / shrub regularly. And I would like to learn more about it. Like its name would be a good starting point. With that in mind, I put together a little photo page : http://www.esher.nildram.co.uk/philip/whattree.htm The shape of the fruits and their arrangement made me think of Paulownia tomentosa, but on reading it would seem that the Paulowinia has fluffy seeds to be carried by the wind. While the seeds on 'my' tree are between 0.7cm and 1.5cms long and up to 0.5 cm wide. So definately not dispersed by the wind. I look forward to hearing from anyone who can point me in the right direction. Many thanks Phil Hmmm?..........scratches head in vain. Going to the books. Rod Weed my email address to reply http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html |
Help with ID of tree / shrub
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:30:37 -0000, "Philip"
wrote: I pass this tree / shrub regularly. And I would like to learn more about it. Like its name would be a good starting point. With that in mind, I put together a little photo page : http://www.esher.nildram.co.uk/philip/whattree.htm The shape of the fruits and their arrangement made me think of Paulownia tomentosa, but on reading it would seem that the Paulowinia has fluffy seeds to be carried by the wind. While the seeds on 'my' tree are between 0.7cm and 1.5cms long and up to 0.5 cm wide. So definately not dispersed by the wind. I look forward to hearing from anyone who can point me in the right direction. Many thanks Phil Hmmm?..........scratches head in vain. Going to the books. Rod Weed my email address to reply http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html |
Help with ID of tree / shrub
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:30:37 -0000, "Philip"
wrote: I pass this tree / shrub regularly. And I would like to learn more about it. Like its name would be a good starting point. With that in mind, I put together a little photo page : http://www.esher.nildram.co.uk/philip/whattree.htm The shape of the fruits and their arrangement made me think of Paulownia tomentosa, but on reading it would seem that the Paulowinia has fluffy seeds to be carried by the wind. While the seeds on 'my' tree are between 0.7cm and 1.5cms long and up to 0.5 cm wide. So definately not dispersed by the wind. I look forward to hearing from anyone who can point me in the right direction. Many thanks Phil Hmmm?..........scratches head in vain. Going to the books. Rod Weed my email address to reply http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html |
Help with ID of tree / shrub
Charlie Pridham5/3/04 5:32
snip The pods in the picture look so like Paulownia, I collect seed ever year, sowed them last week. It never looks possible that such big seedlings can appear so quickly from such fine seed! :~) -- Ray is convinced, like you and I are, that this is a Paulownia, the growth habit, the bark, the seed pods all point to that but not to P. tomentosa. What would be helpful is if the OP can let us know what the flowers are like and how large the leaves are, if he's ever seen them. I've tried Googling (though not extensively) for pics of Paulownia seeds and will try again later. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
Help with ID of tree / shrub
"Sacha" wrote in message o.uk... Charlie Pridham5/3/04 5:32 snip The pods in the picture look so like Paulownia, I collect seed ever year, sowed them last week. It never looks possible that such big seedlings can appear so quickly from such fine seed! :~) -- Ray is convinced, like you and I are, that this is a Paulownia, the growth habit, the bark, the seed pods all point to that but not to P. tomentosa. What would be helpful is if the OP can let us know what the flowers are like and how large the leaves are, if he's ever seen them. I've tried Googling (though not extensively) for pics of Paulownia seeds and will try again later. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) There are 6 species listed in the current plant finder (including tomentosum) but I don't know anything about them! So I will be interested in anything you discover. -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs) |
Help with ID of tree / shrub
"Sacha" wrote in message o.uk... Charlie Pridham5/3/04 5:32 snip The pods in the picture look so like Paulownia, I collect seed ever year, sowed them last week. It never looks possible that such big seedlings can appear so quickly from such fine seed! :~) -- Ray is convinced, like you and I are, that this is a Paulownia, the growth habit, the bark, the seed pods all point to that but not to P. tomentosa. What would be helpful is if the OP can let us know what the flowers are like and how large the leaves are, if he's ever seen them. I've tried Googling (though not extensively) for pics of Paulownia seeds and will try again later. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) There are 6 species listed in the current plant finder (including tomentosum) but I don't know anything about them! So I will be interested in anything you discover. -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs) |
Help with ID of tree / shrub
Many thanks for all contributions.
I just tried breaking one of the 'seed' things in half and it is brittle and dark brown all the way through. In short it does not look like there is much life in it. This tree is in a pot and is located in Central London and would have been baked by last summers weather. I am wondering if this is in fact a Paulowinia but one which produced seed pods with no seeds in. Maybe it produced infertile seed pods because of the heat and drought conditions it experienced last summer. Phil |
Help with ID of tree / shrub
Many thanks for all contributions.
I just tried breaking one of the 'seed' things in half and it is brittle and dark brown all the way through. In short it does not look like there is much life in it. This tree is in a pot and is located in Central London and would have been baked by last summers weather. I am wondering if this is in fact a Paulowinia but one which produced seed pods with no seeds in. Maybe it produced infertile seed pods because of the heat and drought conditions it experienced last summer. Phil |
Help with ID of tree / shrub
Philip6/3/04 8:06
$0$1165$ et Many thanks for all contributions. I just tried breaking one of the 'seed' things in half and it is brittle and dark brown all the way through. In short it does not look like there is much life in it. This tree is in a pot and is located in Central London and would have been baked by last summers weather. I am wondering if this is in fact a Paulowinia but one which produced seed pods with no seeds in. Maybe it produced infertile seed pods because of the heat and drought conditions it experienced last summer. Phil If it's not a Paulownia, I'm going to be fascinated to find out what it is. If and when you see leaves and flowers, do let us know what they look like. I've emailed an American techno site asking if they'll be kind enough to take a look and give an opinion. All these places are always so busy that I'm not holding my breath but maybe, just maybe........ -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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