New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

Hi,

Can anyone help on a simple question and my problem.

My next door neighbour has 'kindly' built an extension next to my house, which means I am now staring at a boring wall when I look out of my kitchen window.

My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types of plants.

It is a shaded area most of the day, only getting sun about 3pm for about an hour to 2 hours. The 'soil' is basically clay, so I would need I think a hardy plant with these conditions.

I'm thinking of some kind of an 'ivy', but don't know where to start.

Any tips, advice or pointer would be appreciated.

--
Regards,
Kev M

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"KEVIN MORRISSEY" wrote in message
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Hi,

Can anyone help on a simple question and my problem.

My next door neighbour has 'kindly' built an extension next to my house,
which means I am now staring at a boring wall when I look out of my kitchen
window.

My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types
of plants.

It is a shaded area most of the day, only getting sun about 3pm for
about an hour to 2 hours. The 'soil' is basically clay, so I would need I
think a hardy plant with these conditions.

I'm thinking of some kind of an 'ivy', but don't know where to start.


We used Goldheart ivy on the side of our garage which is most of my view
from the kitchen sink, it really is cheerful and needs minimal maintenance.
Takes a year or two to get going though. If I'd known what I know now I'd
have sown annuals in the interim, especially canary creeper, which is very
jolly.

Mary

--
Regards,
Kev M

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

"KEVIN MORRISSEY" wrote in message
news:Jjo5c.64$jr2.28@newsfe1-win...
Hi,

Can anyone help on a simple question and my problem.

My next door neighbour has 'kindly' built an extension next to my house,
which means I am now staring at a boring wall when I look out of my kitchen
window.

My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types
of plants.

It is a shaded area most of the day, only getting sun about 3pm for
about an hour to 2 hours. The 'soil' is basically clay, so I would need I
think a hardy plant with these conditions.

I'm thinking of some kind of an 'ivy', but don't know where to start.


We used Goldheart ivy on the side of our garage which is most of my view
from the kitchen sink, it really is cheerful and needs minimal maintenance.
Takes a year or two to get going though. If I'd known what I know now I'd
have sown annuals in the interim, especially canary creeper, which is very
jolly.

Mary

--
Regards,
Kev M

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

"KEVIN MORRISSEY" wrote in message
news:Jjo5c.64$jr2.28@newsfe1-win...
Hi,

Can anyone help on a simple question and my problem.

My next door neighbour has 'kindly' built an extension next to my house,
which means I am now staring at a boring wall when I look out of my kitchen
window.

My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types
of plants.

It is a shaded area most of the day, only getting sun about 3pm for
about an hour to 2 hours. The 'soil' is basically clay, so I would need I
think a hardy plant with these conditions.

I'm thinking of some kind of an 'ivy', but don't know where to start.


We used Goldheart ivy on the side of our garage which is most of my view
from the kitchen sink, it really is cheerful and needs minimal maintenance.
Takes a year or two to get going though. If I'd known what I know now I'd
have sown annuals in the interim, especially canary creeper, which is very
jolly.

Mary

--
Regards,
Kev M

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types of plants.

Might have a spot of bother with neighbour if you actually 'fix' to the wall :-))

A good number of years ago, I came to an agreement with my neighbour over the fence at the side of my house. I had two external Chimney Breasts and a fence outside of those. The fence was serving no useful purpose and I suggested to my neighbour that if I removed it, it would give him some extra width for his drive way to his garage at the rear of the buildings. We both had Jaguar cars and we were very conscious of the need to 'drive past obstructions with care' and it would help him out.

I recently heard, that the new people in what was my house, have taken it to Solicitor level to get the 'boundary' established and re-instated to how it was some 40 years ago!!!

Mike

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types of plants.

Might have a spot of bother with neighbour if you actually 'fix' to the wall :-))

A good number of years ago, I came to an agreement with my neighbour over the fence at the side of my house. I had two external Chimney Breasts and a fence outside of those. The fence was serving no useful purpose and I suggested to my neighbour that if I removed it, it would give him some extra width for his drive way to his garage at the rear of the buildings. We both had Jaguar cars and we were very conscious of the need to 'drive past obstructions with care' and it would help him out.

I recently heard, that the new people in what was my house, have taken it to Solicitor level to get the 'boundary' established and re-instated to how it was some 40 years ago!!!

Mike

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types of plants.

Might have a spot of bother with neighbour if you actually 'fix' to the wall :-))

A good number of years ago, I came to an agreement with my neighbour over the fence at the side of my house. I had two external Chimney Breasts and a fence outside of those. The fence was serving no useful purpose and I suggested to my neighbour that if I removed it, it would give him some extra width for his drive way to his garage at the rear of the buildings. We both had Jaguar cars and we were very conscious of the need to 'drive past obstructions with care' and it would help him out.

I recently heard, that the new people in what was my house, have taken it to Solicitor level to get the 'boundary' established and re-instated to how it was some 40 years ago!!!

Mike

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

"KEVIN MORRISSEY" wrote in message news:Jjo5c.64$jr2.28@newsfe1-win...
Hi,

Can anyone help on a simple question and my problem.

My next door neighbour has 'kindly' built an extension next to my house, which means I am now staring at a boring wall when I look out of my kitchen window.

My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types of plants.

It is a shaded area most of the day, only getting sun about 3pm for about an hour to 2 hours. The 'soil' is basically clay, so I would need I think a hardy plant with these conditions.

I'm thinking of some kind of an 'ivy', but don't know where to start.

Any tips, advice or pointer would be appreciated.

--
Regards,
Kev M

=================
You might consider several 'Kerria' which would solve the problem of attaching anything to the wall.

Cic.

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

"KEVIN MORRISSEY" wrote in message news:Jjo5c.64$jr2.28@newsfe1-win...
Hi,

Can anyone help on a simple question and my problem.

My next door neighbour has 'kindly' built an extension next to my house, which means I am now staring at a boring wall when I look out of my kitchen window.

My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types of plants.

It is a shaded area most of the day, only getting sun about 3pm for about an hour to 2 hours. The 'soil' is basically clay, so I would need I think a hardy plant with these conditions.

I'm thinking of some kind of an 'ivy', but don't know where to start.

Any tips, advice or pointer would be appreciated.

--
Regards,
Kev M

=================
You might consider several 'Kerria' which would solve the problem of attaching anything to the wall.

Cic.

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

"KEVIN MORRISSEY" wrote in message news:Jjo5c.64$jr2.28@newsfe1-win...
Hi,

Can anyone help on a simple question and my problem.

My next door neighbour has 'kindly' built an extension next to my house, which means I am now staring at a boring wall when I look out of my kitchen window.

My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types of plants.

It is a shaded area most of the day, only getting sun about 3pm for about an hour to 2 hours. The 'soil' is basically clay, so I would need I think a hardy plant with these conditions.

I'm thinking of some kind of an 'ivy', but don't know where to start.

Any tips, advice or pointer would be appreciated.

--
Regards,
Kev M

=================
You might consider several 'Kerria' which would solve the problem of attaching anything to the wall.

Cic.

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

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Franz
"Mike" wrote in message ...


My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types of plants.

Might have a spot of bother with neighbour if you actually 'fix' to the wall :-))

A good number of years ago, I came to an agreement with my neighbour over the fence at the side of my house. I had two external Chimney Breasts and a fence outside of those. The fence was serving no useful purpose and I suggested to my neighbour that if I removed it, it would give him some extra width for his drive way to his garage at the rear of the buildings. We both had Jaguar cars and we were very conscious of the need to 'drive past obstructions with care' and it would help him out.

I recently heard, that the new people in what was my house, have taken it to Solicitor level to get the 'boundary' established and re-instated to how it was some 40 years ago!!!

Mike

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

Somebody is postin on HTML. Please change your settings to Plain Text,

Franz
"Mike" wrote in message ...


My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types of plants.

Might have a spot of bother with neighbour if you actually 'fix' to the wall :-))

A good number of years ago, I came to an agreement with my neighbour over the fence at the side of my house. I had two external Chimney Breasts and a fence outside of those. The fence was serving no useful purpose and I suggested to my neighbour that if I removed it, it would give him some extra width for his drive way to his garage at the rear of the buildings. We both had Jaguar cars and we were very conscious of the need to 'drive past obstructions with care' and it would help him out.

I recently heard, that the new people in what was my house, have taken it to Solicitor level to get the 'boundary' established and re-instated to how it was some 40 years ago!!!

Mike

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

Somebody is postin on HTML. Please change your settings to Plain Text,

Franz
"Mike" wrote in message ...


My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types of plants.

Might have a spot of bother with neighbour if you actually 'fix' to the wall :-))

A good number of years ago, I came to an agreement with my neighbour over the fence at the side of my house. I had two external Chimney Breasts and a fence outside of those. The fence was serving no useful purpose and I suggested to my neighbour that if I removed it, it would give him some extra width for his drive way to his garage at the rear of the buildings. We both had Jaguar cars and we were very conscious of the need to 'drive past obstructions with care' and it would help him out.

I recently heard, that the new people in what was my house, have taken it to Solicitor level to get the 'boundary' established and re-instated to how it was some 40 years ago!!!

Mike

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:03:37 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

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Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

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"martin" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:03:37 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
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Hi Kevin,

Ivy is ALWAYS a good choice IMO :~)) The following site has a huge list of types
(with pictures etc): http://members.tripod.com/~Hatch_L/hede1616.html

The smaller leaved. multi coloured types don't grow too fast, but this may be an
advantage.

The Beeb has a top ten of shade lovers:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plant...ade/index.shtm
l

HTH Jenny

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Hi Kevin,

Ivy is ALWAYS a good choice IMO :~)) The following site has a huge list of types
(with pictures etc): http://members.tripod.com/~Hatch_L/hede1616.html

The smaller leaved. multi coloured types don't grow too fast, but this may be an
advantage.

The Beeb has a top ten of shade lovers:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plant...ade/index.shtm
l

HTH Jenny

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

"martin" wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:03:37 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
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Hi Kevin,

Ivy is ALWAYS a good choice IMO :~)) The following site has a huge list of types
(with pictures etc): http://members.tripod.com/~Hatch_L/hede1616.html

The smaller leaved. multi coloured types don't grow too fast, but this may be an
advantage.

The Beeb has a top ten of shade lovers:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plant...ade/index.shtm
l

HTH Jenny

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

Hi Kevin,What about planting a evergreen honeysuckle,it will look good with
nice flowers & give off a lovely sent.Should do well in a bit of shade
too.Very nice next to a open kitchen window or door!Get my drift ;-).

--
Thanks Keith,UK.
"KEVIN MORRISSEY" wrote in message
news:Jjo5c.64$jr2.28@newsfe1-win...
Hi,

Can anyone help on a simple question and my problem.

My next door neighbour has 'kindly' built an extension next to my house,
which means I am now staring at a boring wall when I look out of my kitchen
window.

My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types of
plants.

It is a shaded area most of the day, only getting sun about 3pm for about an
hour to 2 hours. The 'soil' is basically clay, so I would need I think a
hardy plant with these conditions.

I'm thinking of some kind of an 'ivy', but don't know where to start.

Any tips, advice or pointer would be appreciated.

--
Regards,
Kev M

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

"martin" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:03:37 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
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from "KEVIN MORRISSEY" ) contains these words:

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Hi Kevin,

Ivy is ALWAYS a good choice IMO :~)) The following site has a huge list of types
(with pictures etc): http://members.tripod.com/~Hatch_L/hede1616.html

The smaller leaved. multi coloured types don't grow too fast, but this may be an
advantage.

The Beeb has a top ten of shade lovers:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plant...ade/index.shtm
l

HTH Jenny

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

Hi Kevin,What about planting a evergreen honeysuckle,it will look good with
nice flowers & give off a lovely sent.Should do well in a bit of shade
too.Very nice next to a open kitchen window or door!Get my drift ;-).

--
Thanks Keith,UK.
"KEVIN MORRISSEY" wrote in message
news:Jjo5c.64$jr2.28@newsfe1-win...
Hi,

Can anyone help on a simple question and my problem.

My next door neighbour has 'kindly' built an extension next to my house,
which means I am now staring at a boring wall when I look out of my kitchen
window.

My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types of
plants.

It is a shaded area most of the day, only getting sun about 3pm for about an
hour to 2 hours. The 'soil' is basically clay, so I would need I think a
hardy plant with these conditions.

I'm thinking of some kind of an 'ivy', but don't know where to start.

Any tips, advice or pointer would be appreciated.

--
Regards,
Kev M

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

Hi Kevin,What about planting a evergreen honeysuckle,it will look good with
nice flowers & give off a lovely sent.Should do well in a bit of shade
too.Very nice next to a open kitchen window or door!Get my drift ;-).

--
Thanks Keith,UK.
"KEVIN MORRISSEY" wrote in message
news:Jjo5c.64$jr2.28@newsfe1-win...
Hi,

Can anyone help on a simple question and my problem.

My next door neighbour has 'kindly' built an extension next to my house,
which means I am now staring at a boring wall when I look out of my kitchen
window.

My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types of
plants.

It is a shaded area most of the day, only getting sun about 3pm for about an
hour to 2 hours. The 'soil' is basically clay, so I would need I think a
hardy plant with these conditions.

I'm thinking of some kind of an 'ivy', but don't know where to start.

Any tips, advice or pointer would be appreciated.

--
Regards,
Kev M

New Gardener, not got a clue !!!
 

Hi Kevin,What about planting a evergreen honeysuckle,it will look good with
nice flowers & give off a lovely sent.Should do well in a bit of shade
too.Very nice next to a open kitchen window or door!Get my drift ;-).

--
Thanks Keith,UK.
"KEVIN MORRISSEY" wrote in message
news:Jjo5c.64$jr2.28@newsfe1-win...
Hi,

Can anyone help on a simple question and my problem.

My next door neighbour has 'kindly' built an extension next to my house,
which means I am now staring at a boring wall when I look out of my kitchen
window.

My idea is to place some trestles on the wall and add some climber types of
plants.

It is a shaded area most of the day, only getting sun about 3pm for about an
hour to 2 hours. The 'soil' is basically clay, so I would need I think a
hardy plant with these conditions.

I'm thinking of some kind of an 'ivy', but don't know where to start.

Any tips, advice or pointer would be appreciated.

--
Regards,
Kev M