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Alastair 29-03-2004 02:08 PM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 
Hi there,

Moved into my new house back in December and the garden contains a
mature plum tree (no idea of age or type). I recall when viewing the
house last summer that it seemed to have a lot of dead branches and
the previous owner had admitted to doing some pruning.
Come this spring, one of the branches developed some distinct fungal
growths and for quite a while I was convinced the whole tree was dead.
To my joy though, I have spotted emergent leaves on several branches.
I now plan to cut out the dead wood and hopefully save the tree.
My main question is, should I still wait till later in the spring
before I do any pruning, or would it be better to cut out the bad wood
straight away?

Cheers
Alastair

nick gray 29-03-2004 02:13 PM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 

"Alastair" wrote in message
om...
Hi there,

Moved into my new house back in December and the garden contains a
mature plum tree (no idea of age or type). I recall when viewing the
house last summer that it seemed to have a lot of dead branches and
the previous owner had admitted to doing some pruning.
Come this spring, one of the branches developed some distinct fungal
growths and for quite a while I was convinced the whole tree was dead.
To my joy though, I have spotted emergent leaves on several branches.
I now plan to cut out the dead wood and hopefully save the tree.
My main question is, should I still wait till later in the spring
before I do any pruning, or would it be better to cut out the bad wood
straight away?

Cheers
Alastair


Hi Alastair,

To reduce the infection of silver leaf, it's best to leave the pruning until
late spring/early summer. Treat any open cuts with wound paint.

Regards

Nick
www.ukgardening.co.uk




Jaques d'Alltrades 29-03-2004 09:05 PM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 
The message
from "nick gray" contains these words:

To reduce the infection of silver leaf, it's best to leave the pruning until
late spring/early summer. Treat any open cuts with wound paint.


Noooooooooooooooooooo!

Cut out any infected branch as soon as the symptoms appear!

If you don't, the fungus will get down into the trunk and - goodbye tree.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Nick Gray 29-03-2004 10:06 PM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "nick gray" contains these words:

To reduce the infection of silver leaf, it's best to leave the pruning

until
late spring/early summer. Treat any open cuts with wound paint.


Noooooooooooooooooooo!

Cut out any infected branch as soon as the symptoms appear!

If you don't, the fungus will get down into the trunk and - goodbye tree.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/


HMMM - RHS says "Prune plums and other susceptible plants in the summer
months when there is little risk of infection.
Apply a proprietary wound treatment immediately: phenolic formulations (Bio
Arbrex Seal and Heal) or octane acid (Growing Success Prune and Seal)."

See - http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile...ilver_leaf.asp

Cheers

Nick
www.ukgardening.co.uk



Alastair 30-03-2004 08:33 AM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote in message ...
Cut out any infected branch as soon as the symptoms appear!

If you don't, the fungus will get down into the trunk and - goodbye tree.


That's what I am worried about. I think I'll cut out the obviously
diseased branches quick smart!

Hope it survives......

Thanks for the responses. :o)

Alastair

Nick Maclaren 30-03-2004 09:04 AM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 

In article ,
(Alastair) writes:
| Jaques d'Alltrades wrote in message ...
| Cut out any infected branch as soon as the symptoms appear!
|
| If you don't, the fungus will get down into the trunk and - goodbye tree.
|
| That's what I am worried about. I think I'll cut out the obviously
| diseased branches quick smart!

Why do you think that it is silver leaf? Most fungi aren't, and
many are not seriously harmful. Your approach isn't unreasonable,
even if it is a harmless fungus.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Stephen Howard 30-03-2004 10:32 AM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 
On 29 Mar 2004 04:59:54 -0800, (Alastair) wrote:

Hi there,

Moved into my new house back in December and the garden contains a
mature plum tree (no idea of age or type). I recall when viewing the
house last summer that it seemed to have a lot of dead branches and
the previous owner had admitted to doing some pruning.
Come this spring, one of the branches developed some distinct fungal
growths and for quite a while I was convinced the whole tree was dead.
To my joy though, I have spotted emergent leaves on several branches.
I now plan to cut out the dead wood and hopefully save the tree.
My main question is, should I still wait till later in the spring
before I do any pruning, or would it be better to cut out the bad wood
straight away?

Are you certain it's a fungus?
Plum trees can be shabby beasts at the best of times - the wood is
very brittle and gives the appearance of being dead when it's actually
still viable. My collection of plum trees look frankly awful, and yet
still yield a significant crop in a good year.
They seem rather susceptible to lichen - which some people might
mistake for fungal growth. The lichen forms small, pale to white
fungus-like bracts on the branches. It does no harm, rather it
indicates good air quality.

Given that you've not seen the plum tree "in action" I would be
inclined to hold off on any treatment this year and see what the
summer brings. Once the tree is in full leaf you'll have a better idea
of its condition. It might surprise you and fruit magnificently.

If you're sure it's under attack then the standard advice is not to
prune any wood until after the last frost has passed.

Regards,



--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

Alastair 30-03-2004 12:53 PM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 
(Nick Maclaren) wrote in message ...
Why do you think that it is silver leaf? Most fungi aren't, and
many are not seriously harmful. Your approach isn't unreasonable,
even if it is a harmless fungus.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Simply because it is a harmful fungal infection I have heard being
closely linked to plum trees and pruning at the wrong time of year.
The fact that several of the branches of the tree have no leaf buds
apparent and one of them has golf ball sized growths makes me think
somethings up.
I guess it might not be silver leaf, but I don't think it is
harmless...

Alastair

Alastair 30-03-2004 12:53 PM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 
(Nick Maclaren) wrote in message ...
Why do you think that it is silver leaf? Most fungi aren't, and
many are not seriously harmful. Your approach isn't unreasonable,
even if it is a harmless fungus.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Simply because it is a harmful fungal infection I have heard being
closely linked to plum trees and pruning at the wrong time of year.
The fact that several of the branches of the tree have no leaf buds
apparent and one of them has golf ball sized growths makes me think
somethings up.
I guess it might not be silver leaf, but I don't think it is
harmless...

Alastair

Nick Maclaren 30-03-2004 01:01 PM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 

In article ,
(Alastair) writes:
|
(Nick Maclaren) wrote in message ...
|
| Why do you think that it is silver leaf? Most fungi aren't, and
| many are not seriously harmful. Your approach isn't unreasonable,
| even if it is a harmless fungus.
|
| Simply because it is a harmful fungal infection I have heard being
| closely linked to plum trees and pruning at the wrong time of year.
| The fact that several of the branches of the tree have no leaf buds
| apparent and one of them has golf ball sized growths makes me think
| somethings up.
|
| I guess it might not be silver leaf, but I don't think it is
| harmless...

It might well not be - there are dozens or hundreds of other
possibilities! And it could well be harmless - a lot of fungi
attack only dead wood - remember that most trees (including plums)
are not usually harmed by their heartwood rotting. Oaks, willows
etc. actually benefit from it (when it happens in middle age)!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren 30-03-2004 01:01 PM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 

In article ,
(Alastair) writes:
|
(Nick Maclaren) wrote in message ...
|
| Why do you think that it is silver leaf? Most fungi aren't, and
| many are not seriously harmful. Your approach isn't unreasonable,
| even if it is a harmless fungus.
|
| Simply because it is a harmful fungal infection I have heard being
| closely linked to plum trees and pruning at the wrong time of year.
| The fact that several of the branches of the tree have no leaf buds
| apparent and one of them has golf ball sized growths makes me think
| somethings up.
|
| I guess it might not be silver leaf, but I don't think it is
| harmless...

It might well not be - there are dozens or hundreds of other
possibilities! And it could well be harmless - a lot of fungi
attack only dead wood - remember that most trees (including plums)
are not usually harmed by their heartwood rotting. Oaks, willows
etc. actually benefit from it (when it happens in middle age)!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Alastair 30-03-2004 01:40 PM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 
(Nick Maclaren) wrote in message ...
Why do you think that it is silver leaf? Most fungi aren't, and
many are not seriously harmful. Your approach isn't unreasonable,
even if it is a harmless fungus.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Simply because it is a harmful fungal infection I have heard being
closely linked to plum trees and pruning at the wrong time of year.
The fact that several of the branches of the tree have no leaf buds
apparent and one of them has golf ball sized growths makes me think
somethings up.
I guess it might not be silver leaf, but I don't think it is
harmless...

Alastair

Nick Maclaren 30-03-2004 01:42 PM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 

In article ,
(Alastair) writes:
|
(Nick Maclaren) wrote in message ...
|
| Why do you think that it is silver leaf? Most fungi aren't, and
| many are not seriously harmful. Your approach isn't unreasonable,
| even if it is a harmless fungus.
|
| Simply because it is a harmful fungal infection I have heard being
| closely linked to plum trees and pruning at the wrong time of year.
| The fact that several of the branches of the tree have no leaf buds
| apparent and one of them has golf ball sized growths makes me think
| somethings up.
|
| I guess it might not be silver leaf, but I don't think it is
| harmless...

It might well not be - there are dozens or hundreds of other
possibilities! And it could well be harmless - a lot of fungi
attack only dead wood - remember that most trees (including plums)
are not usually harmed by their heartwood rotting. Oaks, willows
etc. actually benefit from it (when it happens in middle age)!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Alastair 30-03-2004 01:47 PM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 
(Nick Maclaren) wrote in message ...
Why do you think that it is silver leaf? Most fungi aren't, and
many are not seriously harmful. Your approach isn't unreasonable,
even if it is a harmless fungus.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Simply because it is a harmful fungal infection I have heard being
closely linked to plum trees and pruning at the wrong time of year.
The fact that several of the branches of the tree have no leaf buds
apparent and one of them has golf ball sized growths makes me think
somethings up.
I guess it might not be silver leaf, but I don't think it is
harmless...

Alastair

Nick Maclaren 30-03-2004 01:49 PM

Sick plum tree - probably silver leaf
 

In article ,
(Alastair) writes:
|
(Nick Maclaren) wrote in message ...
|
| Why do you think that it is silver leaf? Most fungi aren't, and
| many are not seriously harmful. Your approach isn't unreasonable,
| even if it is a harmless fungus.
|
| Simply because it is a harmful fungal infection I have heard being
| closely linked to plum trees and pruning at the wrong time of year.
| The fact that several of the branches of the tree have no leaf buds
| apparent and one of them has golf ball sized growths makes me think
| somethings up.
|
| I guess it might not be silver leaf, but I don't think it is
| harmless...

It might well not be - there are dozens or hundreds of other
possibilities! And it could well be harmless - a lot of fungi
attack only dead wood - remember that most trees (including plums)
are not usually harmed by their heartwood rotting. Oaks, willows
etc. actually benefit from it (when it happens in middle age)!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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