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Curiosity 10-04-2004 07:35 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
Hi all

Never mind the Cats, how do I keep Kids off the garden.
(Next doors cat has just got lost) .


I have just noticed my newly turfed front lawn criss crossed with bike
tracks (can't do the new grass much good ?) and also some broken
plants.

Its a new house and obviously the kids have been used to the house
being unoccupied and think the garden is "open range".

Any suggestions ?, how about soem QUICK GROWING spikey plants.

TIA

Paul

dave @ stejonda 10-04-2004 08:34 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
In message , Curiosity
writes

Never mind the Cats, how do I keep Kids off the garden.
(Next doors cat has just got lost) .

I have just noticed my newly turfed front lawn criss crossed with bike
tracks (can't do the new grass much good ?) and also some broken
plants.

Its a new house and obviously the kids have been used to the house
being unoccupied and think the garden is "open range".


Howsabout going out and talking to the kids? If you introduce yourself
and stay calm and pleasant (seeing it from their POV) you're most likely
to get a positive response, and the opposite if you go out, holler at
them and plant spikey plants.

--
dave @ stejonda

"To materialist eyes, India is a developing country;
to spiritual eyes, the United States is a developing country."
Ram Dass

Mike 10-04-2004 08:34 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 


"Curiosity" wrote in message
...
Hi all

Never mind the Cats, how do I keep Kids off the garden.
(Next doors cat has just got lost) .


I had a similar sort of situation whereby the pea gravel I put down outside
my garage was a super place for the kids to do wheelies and skids. A very
polite word with the parents did the trick. Kids were OK after that ;-)

Mike
--
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mich 10-04-2004 09:03 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 

"Mike" wrote in message
...


"Curiosity" wrote in message
...
Hi all

Never mind the Cats, how do I keep Kids off the garden.
(Next doors cat has just got lost) .


I had a similar sort of situation whereby the pea gravel I put down

outside
my garage was a super place for the kids to do wheelies and skids. A very
polite word with the parents did the trick. Kids were OK after that ;-)


Depends on your neighbours. I asked mine , ( ex ones now) very very
nicely to stop the kids using my front rockery as a slide . The response was
the kids slashed all four of my car tyres on my drive.

I moved out. needless to say that I suppose.




mich 10-04-2004 09:03 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 

"mich" wrote in message
...

"Mike" wrote in message
...


"Curiosity" wrote in message
...
Hi all

Never mind the Cats, how do I keep Kids off the garden.
(Next doors cat has just got lost) .


I had a similar sort of situation whereby the pea gravel I put down

outside
my garage was a super place for the kids to do wheelies and skids. A

very
polite word with the parents did the trick. Kids were OK after that ;-)


Depends on your neighbours. I asked mine , ( ex ones now) very very
nicely to stop the kids using my front rockery as a slide . The response

was
the kids slashed all four of my car tyres on my drive.

I moved out. needless to say that I suppose.


Afterthought - the neighbour concerned were themselves very garden proud (
and houseproud for that matter).






Curiosity 10-04-2004 09:33 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:07:04 +0100, "dave @ stejonda"
wrote:

In message , Curiosity
writes

Never mind the Cats, how do I keep Kids off the garden.
(Next doors cat has just got lost) .

I have just noticed my newly turfed front lawn criss crossed with bike
tracks (can't do the new grass much good ?) and also some broken
plants.

Its a new house and obviously the kids have been used to the house
being unoccupied and think the garden is "open range".


Howsabout going out and talking to the kids? If you introduce yourself
and stay calm and pleasant (seeing it from their POV) you're most likely
to get a positive response, and the opposite if you go out, holler at
them and plant spikey plants.

Already done that, will have to see what sort of response I get.

Paul


Curiosity 10-04-2004 09:33 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 09:10:44 +0100, Curiosity
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:07:04 +0100, "dave @ stejonda"
wrote:

In message , Curiosity
writes

Never mind the Cats, how do I keep Kids off the garden.
(Next doors cat has just got lost) .

I have just noticed my newly turfed front lawn criss crossed with bike
tracks (can't do the new grass much good ?) and also some broken
plants.

Its a new house and obviously the kids have been used to the house
being unoccupied and think the garden is "open range".


Howsabout going out and talking to the kids? If you introduce yourself
and stay calm and pleasant (seeing it from their POV) you're most likely
to get a positive response, and the opposite if you go out, holler at
them and plant spikey plants.

Already done that, will have to see what sort of response I get.

Paul

PS

We were questioned by the kids as to why just the two of us needed to
own a five bedroomed house ???????

Paul

dave @ stejonda 10-04-2004 11:03 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
In message , mich
writes
Depends on your neighbours. I asked mine , ( ex ones now) very very
nicely to stop the kids using my front rockery as a slide . The response

was
the kids slashed all four of my car tyres on my drive.

I moved out. needless to say that I suppose.


Afterthought - the neighbour concerned were themselves very garden
proud ( and houseproud for that matter).


Yes, we've got a family (thankfully 3 doors down) who are very
houseproud but who are very successfully raising yobs. :(

--
dave @ stejonda

Jane Ransom 10-04-2004 11:03 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
In article , dave @ stejonda
writes
Howsabout going out and talking to the kids? If you introduce yourself
and stay calm and pleasant (seeing it from their POV) you're most likely
to get a positive response, and the opposite if you go out, holler at
them and plant spikey plants.

Wrong Dave, oh sooooooooooooooo wrong!

I tried that approach years ago with children (I hate the term kids,
it's insulting to goats) who used to play cricket against a lamp post
that was in line with my glass front doer. I used to talk to them
reasonably, recorded them once and asked them in to listen to themselves
and asked them if they would like to have to listen to 'that' all day
etc etc.
Result - zero.
Eventually my neighbour took pity on me and yelled at them . . all sorts
of foul language and threats . . and there was no more trouble.
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms
at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see



JennyC 10-04-2004 11:03 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 

"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message
...
In message , mich
writes
Depends on your neighbours. I asked mine , ( ex ones now) very very
nicely to stop the kids using my front rockery as a slide . The response

was the kids slashed all four of my car tyres on my drive.

I moved out. needless to say that I suppose.


Afterthought - the neighbour concerned were themselves very garden
proud ( and houseproud for that matter).

Yes, we've got a family (thankfully 3 doors down) who are very
houseproud but who are very successfully raising yobs. :(
dave @ stejonda


Its the testosterone in teenage boys that does it - feed them oestrogen laced
ice creams........ :~)
Jenny



dave @ stejonda 10-04-2004 11:32 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
In message , JennyC
writes
"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message
...
In message , mich
writes
Depends on your neighbours. I asked mine , ( ex ones now) very very
nicely to stop the kids using my front rockery as a slide . The response
was the kids slashed all four of my car tyres on my drive.

I moved out. needless to say that I suppose.

Afterthought - the neighbour concerned were themselves very garden
proud ( and houseproud for that matter).


Yes, we've got a family (thankfully 3 doors down) who are very
houseproud but who are very successfully raising yobs. :(


Its the testosterone in teenage boys that does it - feed them oestrogen laced
ice creams........ :~)


The mother is as bad though Jenny. What would you suggest for her?

--
dave @ stejonda

JennyC 10-04-2004 12:03 PM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 

"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message
...
In message , JennyC
writes
"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message
...
In message , mich
writes
Depends on your neighbours. I asked mine , ( ex ones now) very very
nicely to stop the kids using my front rockery as a slide . The response
was the kids slashed all four of my car tyres on my drive.

I moved out. needless to say that I suppose.

Afterthought - the neighbour concerned were themselves very garden
proud ( and houseproud for that matter).


Yes, we've got a family (thankfully 3 doors down) who are very
houseproud but who are very successfully raising yobs. :(


Its the testosterone in teenage boys that does it - feed them oestrogen laced
ice creams........ :~)


The mother is as bad though Jenny. What would you suggest for her?
dave @ stejonda


Several LARGE muscled friends to have a word with her ?????

I had a similar problem with boys playing football in our narrow cul-de-sac.
They only stopped when several of us got together and complained to the parents.

Jenny



Dcjtee 10-04-2004 02:05 PM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
Never mind the Cats, how do I keep Kids off the garden.

Poisoned sweets? Airguns?




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Mike 10-04-2004 03:33 PM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 

I had a similar problem with boys playing football in our narrow

cul-de-sac.
They only stopped when several of us got together and complained to the

parents.

Jenny



I think we must be very lucky in our village in that the whole community is
coming together as a 'one'. The old football field/recreation ground is
about to be re-instated. We have a new Village Magazine which reports on and
advertises the Local Scene.

AND

We have a new village beat bobby. One of the 'old school' who gets in
amongst the kids and talks to them and is getting to 'know then' and by
name!! And gets to know their parents. He is very much a 'local beat bobby'
and attends all meetings to do with the village such as the Parish Council
Meeting and also the Community Partnership meetings.

All these things put together is showing an improvement. A massive Fund
Raise is about to start and many of the local people want to get involved.
we have our first and inaugural meeting at the end of the month.

Things are improving, mainly by people 'doing' things and talking to each
other.

Mike

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Royal Naval Reunion Eastbourne May 7th - 10th
H.M.S.Collingwood Association Reunion Bracklesham Bay May 21st - 24th
Nat.Service (RAF) Assoc. Cosford Parade / Social Weekend 25th - 28th June



Rhiannon S 10-04-2004 06:32 PM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
Subject: Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
From: Curiosity
Date: 10/04/2004 07:26 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:


Any suggestions ?, how about soem QUICK GROWING spikey plants.


Gorse, I always recommend gorse. Or that hedgehog holly that has spikes on
it's spikes.
--
Rhiannon
http://www.livejournal.com/users/rhiannon_s/
"The trick is to commit crimes so confusing that police feel too stupid to even
write a crime report about them."
Aubrey on remaining at liberty
www.somethingpositive.net

Janet Baraclough.. 10-04-2004 10:19 PM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
The message
from Jane Ransom contains these words:

In article , dave @ stejonda
writes
Howsabout going out and talking to the kids? If you introduce yourself
and stay calm and pleasant (seeing it from their POV) you're most likely
to get a positive response, and the opposite if you go out, holler at
them and plant spikey plants.

Wrong Dave, oh sooooooooooooooo wrong!


I tried that approach years ago with children (I hate the term kids,
it's insulting to goats) who used to play cricket against a lamp post
that was in line with my glass front doer. I used to talk to them
reasonably, recorded them once and asked them in to listen to themselves
and asked them if they would like to have to listen to 'that' all day
etc etc.
Result - zero.


That's unsurprising. It appears you objected to the danger to your
glass door, on the grounds that you didn't like the noise the kids were
making. Kids can't grasp that kind of logic, and neither do I :-)

(runs for six)
Janet




Jaques d'Alltrades 10-04-2004 10:23 PM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
The message
from "dave @ stejonda" contains these
words:

Yes, we've got a family (thankfully 3 doors down) who are very
houseproud but who are very successfully raising yobs. :(


Its the testosterone in teenage boys that does it - feed them
oestrogen laced
ice creams........ :~)


The mother is as bad though Jenny. What would you suggest for her?


Almond flavour.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Jaques d'Alltrades 10-04-2004 10:24 PM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
The message
from Curiosity contains these words:

PS


We were questioned by the kids as to why just the two of us needed to
own a five bedroomed house ???????


Did you tell them that you kept one as a study and the other three
spares so you could do excruciatingly painful experiments on nosey
children?

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

bigjon 10-04-2004 11:04 PM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
Curiosity decided to sha

Hi all

Never mind the Cats, how do I keep Kids off the garden.
(Next doors cat has just got lost) .


I have just noticed my newly turfed front lawn criss crossed with bike
tracks (can't do the new grass much good ?) and also some broken
plants.

Its a new house and obviously the kids have been used to the house
being unoccupied and think the garden is "open range".

Any suggestions ?, how about soem QUICK GROWING spikey plants.

TIA

Paul


Just amble out there one day whilst they are about, swinging a baseball bat
in one hand and a half full bottle of gin in the other, muttering to
yourself about "getting even"....

--
War doesn't determine who is right,
war determines who is left....

Curiosity 11-04-2004 08:34 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:40:25 +0100, bigjon
wrote:

Curiosity decided to sha

Hi all

Never mind the Cats, how do I keep Kids off the garden.
(Next doors cat has just got lost) .


I have just noticed my newly turfed front lawn criss crossed with bike
tracks (can't do the new grass much good ?) and also some broken
plants.

Its a new house and obviously the kids have been used to the house
being unoccupied and think the garden is "open range".

Any suggestions ?, how about soem QUICK GROWING spikey plants.

TIA

Paul


Just amble out there one day whilst they are about, swinging a baseball bat
in one hand and a half full bottle of gin in the other, muttering to
yourself about "getting even"....

Nah

I prefer a bottle of whisky ;-)

Paul

Curiosity 11-04-2004 08:34 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:04:26 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from Curiosity contains these words:

PS


We were questioned by the kids as to why just the two of us needed to
own a five bedroomed house ???????


Did you tell them that you kept one as a study and the other three
spares so you could do excruciatingly painful experiments on nosey
children?

Two studies, a library and a home cinema room, surprising how it all
fills up.

Now what I do need is a shed for all my gardening stuff (wife wont let
me put it in one of the bedrooms :-(



Paul

mich 11-04-2004 09:03 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 

"Curiosity" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:40:25 +0100, bigjon
wrote:
Any suggestions ?, how about soem QUICK GROWING spikey plants.

TIA


To answer the question. I used berberis ( spelling?) purple- green leaf
with pikes on it. Common in garden centres.
Its not necessarily that fast growing though.
I also planted a Japanese flowering quince ( a bit spiky), a load of old
rugosa roses ( thorny and fast growing - although can get out of hand ....
and can be as painful to you as to them) and a white thorn mixed hedging.

The gorse answer you got earlier is good - but I couldn't get any at the
time!



bigjon 11-04-2004 09:05 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
Curiosity decided to sha

On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:40:25 +0100, bigjon
wrote:

Curiosity decided to sha

Hi all

Never mind the Cats, how do I keep Kids off the garden.
(Next doors cat has just got lost) .

snip

Just amble out there one day whilst they are about, swinging a baseball bat
in one hand and a half full bottle of gin in the other, muttering to
yourself about "getting even"....

Nah

I prefer a bottle of whisky ;-)

Paul


Yeah, but Gin is slightly downmarket, has that "scumbag" look....

--
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
because you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup....

Jane Ransom 11-04-2004 09:33 AM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
In article , Janet Baraclough.
.. writes
It appears you objected to the danger to your
glass door, on the grounds that you didn't like the noise the kids were
making. Kids can't grasp that kind of logic, and neither do I :-)

Spose that's because you have never had a front door in the firing
line!!!!!!
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms
at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see



Ophelia 11-04-2004 12:02 PM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 

"bigjon" wrote in message
...
Curiosity decided to sha

On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:40:25 +0100, bigjon
wrote:

Curiosity decided to sha

Hi all

Never mind the Cats, how do I keep Kids off the garden.
(Next doors cat has just got lost) .

snip

Just amble out there one day whilst they are about, swinging a baseball

bat
in one hand and a half full bottle of gin in the other, muttering to
yourself about "getting even"....

Nah

I prefer a bottle of whisky ;-)

Paul


Yeah, but Gin is slightly downmarket, has that "scumbag" look....


Oi! nowt wrong with a good drop of mothers' ruin:)



FF 11-04-2004 06:02 PM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 09:25:54 +0100, Jane Ransom wrote:

In article , Janet Baraclough.
. writes
It appears you objected to the danger to your
glass door, on the grounds that you didn't like the noise the kids were
making. Kids can't grasp that kind of logic, and neither do I :-)

Spose that's because you have never had a front door in the firing
line!!!!!!


My front window is!

And a football went through it 2 days after I left on holiday last year. It was
promptly mended by the parents of one of the little culprits (who were left to sweat
it out till I got back "What's Liz going to say?" etc etc)

I love those kids playing outside my house. It makes me feel really alive and was one
of the reasons I picked a street where children could still play out. My child is
adopted and for many years I didn't think there would be children in my life at all.
If one broken window in the 6 years I've been here is the price I have to pay... then
it's cheap at twice the price. I know when I'm lucky:-)

Of course, I might feel different if it was a door;-)

Liz

bigjon 11-04-2004 10:03 PM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
Ophelia decided to sha

"bigjon" wrote in message
...
Curiosity decided to sha

On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:40:25 +0100, bigjon
wrote:

Curiosity decided to sha

Hi all

Never mind the Cats, how do I keep Kids off the garden.
(Next doors cat has just got lost) .

snip

Just amble out there one day whilst they are about, swinging a baseball

bat
in one hand and a half full bottle of gin in the other, muttering to
yourself about "getting even"....
Nah

I prefer a bottle of whisky ;-)

Paul


Yeah, but Gin is slightly downmarket, has that "scumbag" look....


Oi! nowt wrong with a good drop of mothers' ruin:)


hehe.....
--
I can only please one person per day.
Today is not your day.
Tomorrow is not looking too good either....

Curiosity 14-04-2004 06:36 PM

Never mind the Cats,how do I keep Kids off the garden
 
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 10:02:33 +0100, Jane Ransom
wrote:

In article , dave @ stejonda
writes
Howsabout going out and talking to the kids? If you introduce yourself
and stay calm and pleasant (seeing it from their POV) you're most likely
to get a positive response, and the opposite if you go out, holler at
them and plant spikey plants.

Wrong Dave, oh sooooooooooooooo wrong!

I tried that approach years ago with children (I hate the term kids,
it's insulting to goats) who used to play cricket against a lamp post
that was in line with my glass front doer. I used to talk to them
reasonably, recorded them once and asked them in to listen to themselves
and asked them if they would like to have to listen to 'that' all day
etc etc.
Result - zero.
Eventually my neighbour took pity on me and yelled at them . . all sorts
of foul language and threats . . and there was no more trouble.


Caught the little sods riding bikes through the shrubbery between our
garden and the unoccupied next door this afternoon. Right says I , I
will stake each plant with sharp bamboo stakes to prevent the shrubs
being flattened, you can't do that says my wife, if the little
kiddewinks get hurt riding their bikes over your shrubs you may get
into trouble.

I hope the new neighbour turns out to be a 20 stone wrestler so I can
point out which of the little kiddewinks has flattened his new plants.

:-))


Paul


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