tom cats - grrrr
 

Now, I own a cat, a species known to be the bain of many a gardeners life.
Fortunately, my cat is only intent on destroying my own garden and I can
cope with that! However, we have recently been infiltrated by an
un-neutered tom cat and he is spraying everywhere. The final straw came
yesterday when I left a bag outside for half an hour and came back to find
that it reeked of tom cat pee.

I have no idea where he comes from but he appeared suddenly a couple of
months ago so assume his owners moved to the area around that time.

Any solutions people? Apart from catching him and forcibly removing his
dangly bits!!!! And bearing in mind I own a cat, albeit elderly and
slightly senile, myself.

Vicky

tom cats - grrrr
 

"Vicky" wrote in message
...


However, we have recently been infiltrated by an
un-neutered tom cat and he is spraying everywhere. ... forcibly removing
his
dangly bits!!!!

Some neutered toms will spray ...

Mary

tom cats - grrrr
 

"Vicky" wrote in message
...

snip
However, we have recently been infiltrated by an
un-neutered tom cat and he is spraying everywhere. The final straw came
yesterday when I left a bag outside for half an hour and came back to find
that it reeked of tom cat pee.
Any solutions people? Apart from catching him and forcibly removing his
dangly bits!!!! And bearing in mind I own a cat, albeit elderly and
slightly senile, myself.

Vicky


No solutions, but I can sympathise. I own two cats, one 14, one 10, both
spayed females. I can't understand why the tom cats come calling, surely
they should know they are on a highway to nothing? My poor old girls have
been stalked for the past 2-3 months by a trio of toms, who then fight and
caterwaul in the garden, especially at night. They are spraying everything,
and if the kitchen door is left open they try to come in as well. Perhaps
they can't find any unspayed females around, but surely there must be some
somewhere to take the pressure off 2 elderly spinsters!

annie

tom cats - grrrr
 

Vicky wrote:
Now, I own a cat, a species known to be the bain of many a gardeners life.
Fortunately, my cat is only intent on destroying my own garden and I can
cope with that! However, we have recently been infiltrated by an
un-neutered tom cat and he is spraying everywhere. The final straw came
yesterday when I left a bag outside for half an hour and came back to find
that it reeked of tom cat pee.

I have no idea where he comes from but he appeared suddenly a couple of
months ago so assume his owners moved to the area around that time.

Any solutions people? Apart from catching him and forcibly removing his
dangly bits!!!! And bearing in mind I own a cat, albeit elderly and
slightly senile, myself.

I have a cat that doesn't keep others out of my garden, so I can
sympathise. As he won't do the job, I do it myself. Whenever I see a
'foreign' cat in my garden I charge at it shouting as though I mean to
do it harm. I realise I look a complete idiot to my neighbours, but it
is working! I hardly ever get other cats in my garden any more. Don't
get many visits from the neighbours either, but I can live with that!

tom cats - grrrr
 

Vicky decided to share this with us :

Now, I own a cat, a species known to be the bain of many a gardeners life.
Fortunately, my cat is only intent on destroying my own garden and I can
cope with that! However, we have recently been infiltrated by an
un-neutered tom cat and he is spraying everywhere. The final straw came
yesterday when I left a bag outside for half an hour and came back to find
that it reeked of tom cat pee.

I have no idea where he comes from but he appeared suddenly a couple of
months ago so assume his owners moved to the area around that time.

Any solutions people? Apart from catching him and forcibly removing his
dangly bits!!!! And bearing in mind I own a cat, albeit elderly and
slightly senile, myself.

Vicky

Actually, I think you are correct in that you should catch it and have it
neutered - I doubt the owner would worry, and it would stop the anti social
behaviour....
--
All truth passes through three stages:
first, it is ridiculed;
next it is violently attacked;
finally, it is held to be self-evident....

tom cats - grrrr
 

Vicky wrote in message
...
Now, I own a cat, a species known to be the bain of many a gardeners life.
Fortunately, my cat is only intent on destroying my own garden and I can
cope with that! However, we have recently been infiltrated by an
un-neutered tom cat and he is spraying everywhere. The final straw came
yesterday when I left a bag outside for half an hour and came back to find
that it reeked of tom cat pee.
First off you having his "dangly bits" removed will not stop him from
spraying which he does to mark his territory. I just do not understand why
a female's first thought is to cut the nuts out. Nothing you can put down
will stop him without affecting your cat so the only humane thing to do is
lie in wait for the offending tom and spray him good with a garden hose.
The little super squirt guns from the dollar store might work. You may have
to do it a couple of times depending on just how much of a "cat" that cat
is. Of course if you get a large Havahart for your pigeon project you could
trap it, hold it for a short time all the while beating on the cage with a
balled up newspaper. Scream oaths at it just before you let it out.

tom cats - grrrr
 

"Vicky" wrote in message
...
Now, I own a cat, a species known to be the bain of many a gardeners life.
Fortunately, my cat is only intent on destroying my own garden and I can
cope with that! However, we have recently been infiltrated by an
un-neutered tom cat and he is spraying everywhere. The final straw came
yesterday when I left a bag outside for half an hour and came back to find
that it reeked of tom cat pee.


Interesting that.

Other vermin loving owners, have informed me, here on this very newsgroup,
that 'I' should get one of the beastly things in order to keep 'my' garden
free!!!!!!

You are saying this doesn't work. Therefore the others are telling lies.

Interesting that!!

Mike
Who doesn't knowingly tell lies.


--
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Royal Naval Reunion Eastbourne May 7th - 10th
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Nat.Service (RAF) Assoc. Cosford Parade / Social Weekend 25th - 28th June

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In article , Vicky
writes

Any solutions people? Apart from catching him and forcibly removing his
dangly bits!!!!


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tom cats - grrrr
 

"Vicky" wrote in message
...
Now, I own a cat, a species known to be the bain of many a gardeners life.
Fortunately, my cat is only intent on destroying my own garden and I can
cope with that! However, we have recently been infiltrated by an
un-neutered tom cat and he is spraying everywhere. The final straw came
yesterday when I left a bag outside for half an hour and came back to find
that it reeked of tom cat pee.

I have no idea where he comes from but he appeared suddenly a couple of
months ago so assume his owners moved to the area around that time.

Any solutions people? Apart from catching him and forcibly removing his
dangly bits!!!! And bearing in mind I own a cat, albeit elderly and
slightly senile, myself.

A Cat fence is the answer, a kind of netting that bolts to the top of your
existing fence, keeps yours in and others out. As much as I love all animals
I think it should be made law for Cat owners, as well as being considerate
to other home owners a Cat fence will also protect your cat from the hazzard
of being killed on the roads, or even worse, as read in our local paper a
spate of Anti-freeze poisoning. (if you think it will get bored you can
easily build and adventure playground for the Cat even in small yards, seen
it prescribed by vets for depressed cats, you just build an avery type
building on the back of the house with ramps perches and allsorts).

tom cats - grrrr
 

Mike wrote:

"Vicky" wrote in message
...
Now, I own a cat, a species known to be the bain of many a gardeners life.
Fortunately, my cat is only intent on destroying my own garden and I can
cope with that! However, we have recently been infiltrated by an
un-neutered tom cat and he is spraying everywhere. The final straw came
yesterday when I left a bag outside for half an hour and came back to find
that it reeked of tom cat pee.


Interesting that.

Other vermin loving owners, have informed me, here on this very newsgroup,
that 'I' should get one of the beastly things in order to keep 'my' garden
free!!!!!!

You are saying this doesn't work. Therefore the others are telling lies.

Interesting that!!

Mike
Who doesn't knowingly tell lies.


--
H.M.S.Newfoundland Association Reunion Hayling Island April 23rd - 26th
Royal Naval Reunion Eastbourne May 7th - 10th
H.M.S.Collingwood Association Reunion Bracklesham Bay May 21st - 24th
Nat.Service (RAF) Assoc. Cosford Parade / Social Weekend 25th - 28th June

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

Sounds as though somebody has done just that and having cleared its own
garden, it is expanding its territory :-))
--
Larry Stoter

tom cats - grrrr
 

In article ,
Larry Stoter wrote:
Mike wrote:

Other vermin loving owners, have informed me, here on this very newsgroup,
that 'I' should get one of the beastly things in order to keep 'my' garden
free!!!!!!

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

It is illegal to keep the sort of large, nasty, intact tom that I
should like :-(


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

tom cats - grrrr
 

"Vicky" wrote in message
...
we have recently been infiltrated by an
un-neutered tom cat and he is spraying everywhere.

Lots sniped.

For what it's worth, I've just had an email from someone who has been
having considerable trouble with her immediate neighbours cat. Given a
chance, he would bolt into her house and spray.
The last time I was there, I threw a bucket of water oin hime when he tried
to get in (he was inclined to hid behind the door and as soon as a chink of
room could be seen, he was in)
The first bucket worked... thereafter with decreasing effect.
He got picked up and thrown out the door and that seemed to make him more
wary for a few days, but alas, soon back to his old tricks. Then this lady
had a brainwave;
Take her own cat's basket and leave it so that the stray would bolt right
into it. Then close the door and leave there to stew for the day.
Result: After no more than one impriosnment, the cat is nowhere to be seen
and she can now, finally, open her kichen door to let just some nice fresh
air to refresh the house.

Patrick

tom cats - grrrr
 

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:24:58 +0100, "Vicky"
wrote:

Now, I own a cat, a species known to be the bain of many a gardeners life.
Fortunately, my cat is only intent on destroying my own garden and I can
cope with that! However, we have recently been infiltrated by an
un-neutered tom cat and he is spraying everywhere. The final straw came
yesterday when I left a bag outside for half an hour and came back to find
that it reeked of tom cat pee.

I have no idea where he comes from but he appeared suddenly a couple of
months ago so assume his owners moved to the area around that time.

Any solutions people? Apart from catching him and forcibly removing his
dangly bits!!!! And bearing in mind I own a cat, albeit elderly and
slightly senile, myself.

Vicky, we had a problem last year with two tom cats coming into the
house and terrorising our own. We were sure they were feral cats, and
contacted the Cats' Protection League, who lent us a special catching
cage. We succeeded in catching both toms (at different times!) and
took them to the vet who neutered them - the CPL paid. The important
thing, we were told, was to release the tom cat where we had caught it
- you won't see him for dust again. It all worked, I'm glad to say.
(Mind you, we noticed a dearth of young men hanging round the patio,
too, when the story got round...)
HTH


--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Email is sallydogthompsonatbtinternetdogcom, replacing dog with dot
Reply To address is spam trap

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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Larry Stoter wrote:
Mike wrote:

Other vermin loving owners, have informed me, here on this very
newsgroup,
that 'I' should get one of the beastly things in order to keep 'my'
garden
free!!!!!!

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

It is illegal to keep the sort of large, nasty, intact tom that I
should like :-(

I don't live too far away from http://www.isleofwightzoo.com/
about 1 mile, I quite often park the car opposite when I go to the beach. I
think I will have words with them about 'fostering' some of their young cubs
:-))

The vermin loving fraternity will have something to complain about then!!
Well they keep telling me to get one to keep others away, but this thread
has proved they are lying.

Don't like liars, do we Muppet?

--
H.M.S.Newfoundland Association Reunion Hayling Island April 23rd - 26th
Royal Naval Reunion Eastbourne May 7th - 10th
H.M.S.Collingwood Association Reunion Bracklesham Bay May 21st - 24th
Nat.Service (RAF) Assoc. Cosford Parade / Social Weekend 25th - 28th June

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"Larry Stoter" wrote in message

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

Hmmm, yesterday our 16 years old neutered male Birman was outside on the
path , which is unusual in itself, when the local intact Tom came calling
again. (We also have a spayed female Birman of 14)
To my amazement the old fool fluffed himself up, started screaming, and
walked head down towards the tom and chased him away.

Of course he had to lie down for a few hours afterwards. No change there.
:-)
--
Regards
Bob

Use a useful Screen Saver...
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
and find intelligent life amongst the stars

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"....... I have no idea where he comes from but he appeared suddenly a
couple of months ago so assume his owners moved to the area around that time
............."

Or moved away and left him

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

tom cats - grrrr
 

I don't live too far away from http://www.isleofwightzoo.com/
about 1 mile, I quite often park the car opposite when I go to the beach.
I
think I will have words with them about 'fostering' some of their young
cubs
:-))


I live about 8 miles away from same zoo - greetings fellow caulkhead! It
was from this zoo that my friend got some tiger dung and smeared it on his
garden walls to good effect. Trouble is, I have no need to scare my own
moggie witless!

Vicky

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I live about 8 miles away from same zoo - greetings fellow caulkhead!

Small world. Not a 'true' caulkhead as I moved from the North Island when I
was 10, rather a long time ago.

It was from this zoo that my friend got some tiger dung and smeared it on
his
garden walls to good effect. Trouble is, I have no need to scare my own
moggie witless!

Do you happen to know if they will let you come and collect it from the Zoo.
(The Zoo itself as opposed to straight from the animals ;-} )

Mike in a very sunny Lake.

--
H.M.S.Newfoundland Association Reunion Hayling Island April 23rd - 26th
Royal Naval Reunion Eastbourne May 7th - 10th
H.M.S.Collingwood Association Reunion Bracklesham Bay May 21st - 24th
Nat.Service (RAF) Assoc. Cosford Parade / Social Weekend 25th - 28th June

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On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:15:25 +0100, Larry Stoter wrote:

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

Curiously, Bruce Fogle in "The Cat's Mind" suggests a large,
burly *neutered* tom. Neutered toms are bigger than intact ones.
Some breeders use a neutered tom to chase off would-be mates to
their females when they're out sunning themselves.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

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Rodger Whitlock wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:15:25 +0100, Larry Stoter wrote:

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

Curiously, Bruce Fogle in "The Cat's Mind" suggests a large,
burly *neutered* tom. Neutered toms are bigger than intact ones.
Some breeders use a neutered tom to chase off would-be mates to
their females when they're out sunning themselves.

My mother had an intact tom with split lip, limp and half an ear
missing. As a result of an allergy (to grass!) the vet had also pumped
him full of steroids and he tended to resemble a small, grey bulldog.

Not only did she never have any cat problems in her garden, including
her tom, but I never saw another cat within half a mile. Once he had
established himself in the area, he spent most of his life asleep.
During the spring, he did tend to disappear for several days at a time,
occassionally returning to have his injuries seen to. My mother insisted
he was always just like the kitten he had originally been - despite
overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
--
Larry Stoter

tom cats - grrrr
 

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:15:25 +0100, Larry Stoter wrote:

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

Curiously, Bruce Fogle in "The Cat's Mind" suggests a large,
burly *neutered* tom. Neutered toms are bigger than intact ones.
Some breeders use a neutered tom to chase off would-be mates to
their females when they're out sunning themselves.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

tom cats - grrrr
 

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:15:25 +0100, Larry Stoter wrote:

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

Curiously, Bruce Fogle in "The Cat's Mind" suggests a large,
burly *neutered* tom. Neutered toms are bigger than intact ones.
Some breeders use a neutered tom to chase off would-be mates to
their females when they're out sunning themselves.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

tom cats - grrrr
 

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:15:25 +0100, Larry Stoter wrote:

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

Curiously, Bruce Fogle in "The Cat's Mind" suggests a large,
burly *neutered* tom. Neutered toms are bigger than intact ones.
Some breeders use a neutered tom to chase off would-be mates to
their females when they're out sunning themselves.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

tom cats - grrrr
 

Rodger Whitlock wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:15:25 +0100, Larry Stoter wrote:

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

Curiously, Bruce Fogle in "The Cat's Mind" suggests a large,
burly *neutered* tom. Neutered toms are bigger than intact ones.
Some breeders use a neutered tom to chase off would-be mates to
their females when they're out sunning themselves.

My mother had an intact tom with split lip, limp and half an ear
missing. As a result of an allergy (to grass!) the vet had also pumped
him full of steroids and he tended to resemble a small, grey bulldog.

Not only did she never have any cat problems in her garden, including
her tom, but I never saw another cat within half a mile. Once he had
established himself in the area, he spent most of his life asleep.
During the spring, he did tend to disappear for several days at a time,
occassionally returning to have his injuries seen to. My mother insisted
he was always just like the kitten he had originally been - despite
overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
--
Larry Stoter

tom cats - grrrr
 

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:15:25 +0100, Larry Stoter wrote:

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

Curiously, Bruce Fogle in "The Cat's Mind" suggests a large,
burly *neutered* tom. Neutered toms are bigger than intact ones.
Some breeders use a neutered tom to chase off would-be mates to
their females when they're out sunning themselves.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

tom cats - grrrr
 

Rodger Whitlock wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:15:25 +0100, Larry Stoter wrote:

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

Curiously, Bruce Fogle in "The Cat's Mind" suggests a large,
burly *neutered* tom. Neutered toms are bigger than intact ones.
Some breeders use a neutered tom to chase off would-be mates to
their females when they're out sunning themselves.

My mother had an intact tom with split lip, limp and half an ear
missing. As a result of an allergy (to grass!) the vet had also pumped
him full of steroids and he tended to resemble a small, grey bulldog.

Not only did she never have any cat problems in her garden, including
her tom, but I never saw another cat within half a mile. Once he had
established himself in the area, he spent most of his life asleep.
During the spring, he did tend to disappear for several days at a time,
occassionally returning to have his injuries seen to. My mother insisted
he was always just like the kitten he had originally been - despite
overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
--
Larry Stoter

tom cats - grrrr
 

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:15:25 +0100, Larry Stoter wrote:

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

Curiously, Bruce Fogle in "The Cat's Mind" suggests a large,
burly *neutered* tom. Neutered toms are bigger than intact ones.
Some breeders use a neutered tom to chase off would-be mates to
their females when they're out sunning themselves.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

tom cats - grrrr
 

Rodger Whitlock wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:15:25 +0100, Larry Stoter wrote:

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

Curiously, Bruce Fogle in "The Cat's Mind" suggests a large,
burly *neutered* tom. Neutered toms are bigger than intact ones.
Some breeders use a neutered tom to chase off would-be mates to
their females when they're out sunning themselves.

My mother had an intact tom with split lip, limp and half an ear
missing. As a result of an allergy (to grass!) the vet had also pumped
him full of steroids and he tended to resemble a small, grey bulldog.

Not only did she never have any cat problems in her garden, including
her tom, but I never saw another cat within half a mile. Once he had
established himself in the area, he spent most of his life asleep.
During the spring, he did tend to disappear for several days at a time,
occassionally returning to have his injuries seen to. My mother insisted
he was always just like the kitten he had originally been - despite
overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
--
Larry Stoter

tom cats - grrrr
 

In article , Larry
Stoter writes

My mother had an intact tom with ... half an ear
missing.

Can you really still call him intact? ;-)
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

tom cats - grrrr
 

Kay Easton17/4/04 11:50

In article , Larry
Stoter writes

My mother had an intact tom with ... half an ear
missing.

Can you really still call him intact? ;-)

Answers to the name of 'Lucky', perhaps........ ;-)
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

tom cats - grrrr
 

Rodger Whitlock wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:15:25 +0100, Larry Stoter wrote:

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

Curiously, Bruce Fogle in "The Cat's Mind" suggests a large,
burly *neutered* tom. Neutered toms are bigger than intact ones.
Some breeders use a neutered tom to chase off would-be mates to
their females when they're out sunning themselves.

My mother had an intact tom with split lip, limp and half an ear
missing. As a result of an allergy (to grass!) the vet had also pumped
him full of steroids and he tended to resemble a small, grey bulldog.

Not only did she never have any cat problems in her garden, including
her tom, but I never saw another cat within half a mile. Once he had
established himself in the area, he spent most of his life asleep.
During the spring, he did tend to disappear for several days at a time,
occassionally returning to have his injuries seen to. My mother insisted
he was always just like the kitten he had originally been - despite
overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
--
Larry Stoter

tom cats - grrrr
 

In article , Larry
Stoter writes

My mother had an intact tom with ... half an ear
missing.

Can you really still call him intact? ;-)
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

tom cats - grrrr
 

Kay Easton17/4/04 11:50

In article , Larry
Stoter writes

My mother had an intact tom with ... half an ear
missing.

Can you really still call him intact? ;-)

Answers to the name of 'Lucky', perhaps........ ;-)
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

tom cats - grrrr
 

"Mike" wrote in message
...

I live about 8 miles away from same zoo - greetings fellow caulkhead!

Small world. Not a 'true' caulkhead as I moved from the North Island when
I
was 10, rather a long time ago.

It was from this zoo that my friend got some tiger dung and smeared it on
his
garden walls to good effect. Trouble is, I have no need to scare my own
moggie witless!

Do you happen to know if they will let you come and collect it from the
Zoo.
(The Zoo itself as opposed to straight from the animals ;-} )

Mike in a very sunny Lake.

--

I don't know but you could always ring and ask! This was when Jack Corney
was still at the helm and my father-in-law worked there but I'm sure they
wouldn't mind you asking - just as long as they don't expect you to collect
it from the cages yourself. It is very very smelly and you only need a tiny
amount.

Vicky - from sunny Binstead

tom cats - grrrr
 

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 08:35:54 GMT, "sugarCandy"
wrote:

"Vicky" wrote in message
...

snip
However, we have recently been infiltrated by an
un-neutered tom cat and he is spraying everywhere. The final straw came
yesterday when I left a bag outside for half an hour and came back to find
that it reeked of tom cat pee.
Any solutions people? Apart from catching him and forcibly removing his
dangly bits!!!! And bearing in mind I own a cat, albeit elderly and
slightly senile, myself.

Vicky


No solutions, but I can sympathise. I own two cats, one 14, one 10, both
spayed females. I can't understand why the tom cats come calling, surely
they should know they are on a highway to nothing? My poor old girls have
been stalked for the past 2-3 months by a trio of toms, who then fight and
caterwaul in the garden, especially at night. They are spraying everything,
and if the kitchen door is left open they try to come in as well. Perhaps
they can't find any unspayed females around, but surely there must be some
somewhere to take the pressure off 2 elderly spinsters!

annie

I have the perfect solution regarding the randy Tom cat.
I have plenty of ferrule cats in my garden that I need to get
rid of. You can always collect my ferrel females and put
them with your randy tom and everyone's a winner.

tom cats - grrrr
 

I don't know but you could always ring and ask! This was when Jack Corney
was still at the helm and my father-in-law worked there but I'm sure they
wouldn't mind you asking - just as long as they don't expect you to
collect
it from the cages yourself. It is very very smelly and you only need a
tiny
amount.

Vicky - from sunny Binstead




OK Vicky I will give them a call or a visit.

(Family spent most of the day round the corner from you at Brickfields.
Daughter and Grandson have a pony there :-))

Mike in Darkest Lake

tom cats - grrrr
 

Rodger Whitlock wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:15:25 +0100, Larry Stoter wrote:

You need a large, nasty, intact tom to keep other cats out he-ll beat
them up something rotten!

Curiously, Bruce Fogle in "The Cat's Mind" suggests a large,
burly *neutered* tom. Neutered toms are bigger than intact ones.
Some breeders use a neutered tom to chase off would-be mates to
their females when they're out sunning themselves.

My mother had an intact tom with split lip, limp and half an ear
missing. As a result of an allergy (to grass!) the vet had also pumped
him full of steroids and he tended to resemble a small, grey bulldog.

Not only did she never have any cat problems in her garden, including
her tom, but I never saw another cat within half a mile. Once he had
established himself in the area, he spent most of his life asleep.
During the spring, he did tend to disappear for several days at a time,
occassionally returning to have his injuries seen to. My mother insisted
he was always just like the kitten he had originally been - despite
overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
--
Larry Stoter

tom cats - grrrr
 

In article , Larry
Stoter writes

My mother had an intact tom with ... half an ear
missing.

Can you really still call him intact? ;-)
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

tom cats - grrrr
 

Kay Easton17/4/04 11:50

In article , Larry
Stoter writes

My mother had an intact tom with ... half an ear
missing.

Can you really still call him intact? ;-)

Answers to the name of 'Lucky', perhaps........ ;-)
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

tom cats - grrrr
 

"Mike" wrote in message
...

I live about 8 miles away from same zoo - greetings fellow caulkhead!

Small world. Not a 'true' caulkhead as I moved from the North Island when
I
was 10, rather a long time ago.

It was from this zoo that my friend got some tiger dung and smeared it on
his
garden walls to good effect. Trouble is, I have no need to scare my own
moggie witless!

Do you happen to know if they will let you come and collect it from the
Zoo.
(The Zoo itself as opposed to straight from the animals ;-} )

Mike in a very sunny Lake.

--

I don't know but you could always ring and ask! This was when Jack Corney
was still at the helm and my father-in-law worked there but I'm sure they
wouldn't mind you asking - just as long as they don't expect you to collect
it from the cages yourself. It is very very smelly and you only need a tiny
amount.

Vicky - from sunny Binstead