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Shaded Bog Garden
Hi all
Looking for inspiration for a stretch of garden that is currently a disgrace to the horticultural world. Soil is heavy red clay, shaded by neighbours leylandii (to the south!). At present its home to a struggling Lilac tree, a couple of Hosters and not much else. I'd guess it measures maybe 15 feet long by 6 feet wide. I was wondering about creating some kind of wetland/bog garden with polythene and top soil, and planting into that? Anyone have any suggestions as to what might flourish in such a setting, any pitfalls to beware of etc? Many thanks Tim |
Shaded Bog Garden
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:53:59 +0100, Sacha
wrote: Second, things like Ligularias, some Iris, Rodgersia, Astilbes, the Hostas you have could be tried but so much shade could be a problem. Pitfalls? Slugs. ;-( Solution? Frogs, Toads & hedgehogs? |
Shaded Bog Garden
"Tim" notachanceunlessyouremovethis.twstannard@ntlworld .com wrote in message news:SpTgc.115$C24.5@newsfe1-win... Hi all Looking for inspiration for a stretch of garden that is currently a disgrace to the horticultural world. Soil is heavy red clay, shaded by neighbours leylandii (to the south!). At present its home to a struggling Lilac tree, a couple of Hosters and not much else. I'd guess it measures maybe 15 feet long by 6 feet wide. I was wondering about creating some kind of wetland/bog garden with polythene and top soil, and planting into that? Anyone have any suggestions as to what might flourish in such a setting, any pitfalls to beware of etc? Many thanks Tim I've never had one myself but there is loads of info on the net: http://www.ipcc.ie/boggarden.html http://www.ee.enr.state.nc.us/garden/boGardenIndex.htm http://www.nelsonwatergardens.com/bo...struction.html http://www.gardeningdata.co.uk/water...og_gardens.htm HTH Jenny |
Shaded Bog Garden
no spam here, thanks19/4/04 6:44
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:53:59 +0100, Sacha wrote: Second, things like Ligularias, some Iris, Rodgersia, Astilbes, the Hostas you have could be tried but so much shade could be a problem. Pitfalls? Slugs. ;-( Solution? Frogs, Toads & hedgehogs? If they're happy with you, most certainly - go for it. If you live with badgers nearby, avoid keeping hedgehogs. -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) |
Shaded Bog Garden
In article , Sacha
writes no spam here, thanks19/4/04 6:44 On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:53:59 +0100, Sacha wrote: Second, things like Ligularias, some Iris, Rodgersia, Astilbes, the Hostas you have could be tried but so much shade could be a problem. Pitfalls? Slugs. ;-( Solution? Frogs, Toads & hedgehogs? If they're happy with you, most certainly - go for it. If you live with badgers nearby, avoid keeping hedgehogs. If you live with badgers nearby, you won't have a lot of choice about keeping hedgehogs, surely? ;-) -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
Shaded Bog Garden
Kay Easton19/4/04 9:28
In article , Sacha writes no spam here, thanks19/4/04 6:44 On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:53:59 +0100, Sacha wrote: Second, things like Ligularias, some Iris, Rodgersia, Astilbes, the Hostas you have could be tried but so much shade could be a problem. Pitfalls? Slugs. ;-( Solution? Frogs, Toads & hedgehogs? If they're happy with you, most certainly - go for it. If you live with badgers nearby, avoid keeping hedgehogs. If you live with badgers nearby, you won't have a lot of choice about keeping hedgehogs, surely? ;-) Damn right - but I was thinking of the poor little hedgepigs and their sad fate. ;-) -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) |
Shaded Bog Garden
Actually, I dont *really* mind the leylandii, it makes a very effective
screen and stops me being able to see the neighbours! :o) If I could just get stuff to grow there, and stop the weeds taking over, I'll be well chuffed, and the bog garden was an interesting idea...I will let you all know how I get on, thanks very much for the help and ideas... Now....where can i get me some frogs and toads..dont seem to have any at the Garden center :o) (apologies if Im flouting Usenet ettiquette, i might get the hang of it in a bit.) "Sacha" wrote in message o.uk... Tim19/4/04 5:48 pTgc.115$C24.5@newsf e1-win Hi all Looking for inspiration for a stretch of garden that is currently a disgrace to the horticultural world. Soil is heavy red clay, shaded by neighbours leylandii (to the south!). At present its home to a struggling Lilac tree, a couple of Hosters and not much else. I'd guess it measures maybe 15 feet long by 6 feet wide. I was wondering about creating some kind of wetland/bog garden with polythene and top soil, and planting into that? Anyone have any suggestions as to what might flourish in such a setting, any pitfalls to beware of etc? Many thanks First, have you asked your neighbours to reduce their hedge height? If they refused, have you talked to your local council? Things are changing with regard to things like 'nuisance' hedging. Second, things like Ligularias, some Iris, Rodgersia, Astilbes, the Hostas you have could be tried but so much shade could be a problem. Pitfalls? Slugs. ;-( -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
Shaded Bog Garden
Does anybody think i might be able to grow Bullrushes in such a feature? I
can get an almost endless supply of them! I think they would look very effective in such a setting. "JennyC" wrote in message ... "Tim" notachanceunlessyouremovethis.twstannard@ntlworld .com wrote in message news:SpTgc.115$C24.5@newsfe1-win... Hi all Looking for inspiration for a stretch of garden that is currently a disgrace to the horticultural world. Soil is heavy red clay, shaded by neighbours leylandii (to the south!). At present its home to a struggling Lilac tree, a couple of Hosters and not much else. I'd guess it measures maybe 15 feet long by 6 feet wide. I was wondering about creating some kind of wetland/bog garden with polythene and top soil, and planting into that? Anyone have any suggestions as to what might flourish in such a setting, any pitfalls to beware of etc? Many thanks Tim I've never had one myself but there is loads of info on the net: http://www.ipcc.ie/boggarden.html http://www.ee.enr.state.nc.us/garden/boGardenIndex.htm http://www.nelsonwatergardens.com/bo...struction.html http://www.gardeningdata.co.uk/water...og_gardens.htm HTH Jenny |
Shaded Bog Garden
Tim wrote:
Hi all Looking for inspiration for a stretch of garden that is currently a disgrace to the horticultural world. Soil is heavy red clay, shaded by neighbours leylandii (to the south!). At present its home to a struggling Lilac tree, a couple of Hosters and not much else. I'd guess it measures maybe 15 feet long by 6 feet wide. I was wondering about creating some kind of wetland/bog garden with polythene and top soil, and planting into that? Anyone have any suggestions as to what might flourish in such a setting, any pitfalls to beware of etc? Many thanks Tim I had a very similar area - 15 feet wide 45 feet long 45ft tall leylandii on the southern boundary - when I first moved i begged plants from friends and just piled all sorts of thing in there just to see waht might grow. Light sany loam btw. As luck would have it, it was the wettest summer for many a year. We din't like it much but the astilbes were 1m*1m astonishingly vigourous plants. the next year was a normal summer and they were frazzled apologies for plants. I suppose the lesson from that is that if you can give the area eenough constant water during the summer you stand a reasonable chance - but bear in mind you would need 12/18" soil depth on top of the polythene (limited life) or butyl (long life but expensive) You would need a leaky pipe sort of watering system. The problem of course is that you would be inciting the Lelandii roots to a permenant water source.... do you really want to do that? pk |
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