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Sarah Dale 03-05-2004 07:05 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
Hi All,

I had a couple of tarragons in pots last year, and left them outside over
winter. They looked very dead this spring, but I noticed this weekend, that
one is showing signs of regrowth on top of the original roots, and in the
larger pot I have what looks like a baby tarragon plant about 6 inches from
where the original was.

Do they regrow from the roots? Or have I got tarragon shaped weeds?

TIA,

Sarah

Diane Epps 03-05-2004 07:05 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 

"Sarah Dale" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I had a couple of tarragons in pots last year, and left them outside over
winter. They looked very dead this spring, but I noticed this weekend,

that
one is showing signs of regrowth on top of the original roots, and in the
larger pot I have what looks like a baby tarragon plant about 6 inches

from
where the original was.

Do they regrow from the roots? Or have I got tarragon shaped weeds?

TIA,

Sarah

I have two tarragon plants one in the greenhouse and one outside they both
regrow from the roots but I think I am lucky as I live in the south east and
it is relatively mild here.



Sacha 03-05-2004 08:04 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
Sarah Dale3/5/04 10:01

Hi All,

I had a couple of tarragons in pots last year, and left them outside over
winter. They looked very dead this spring, but I noticed this weekend, that
one is showing signs of regrowth on top of the original roots, and in the
larger pot I have what looks like a baby tarragon plant about 6 inches from
where the original was.

Do they regrow from the roots? Or have I got tarragon shaped weeds?

TIA,

Sarah

They're herbs, hence herbaceous. ;-) They die down in winter like many
herbs (not all) and re-shoot in spring/summer. What you need to be sure of
is that they are not water-logged and that if it rains the pots can drain
(put them on feet or bricks) *and* that they're in a sunny place. If they've
been badly frosted you might be unlucky. But with luck, you have new
tarragon though it will take a while to be sure. Best test - does rubbing
the leaves give any indication of tarragon scent on your fingers?
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)



Nick Maclaren 03-05-2004 08:04 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
In article ,
Diane Epps wrote:

I have two tarragon plants one in the greenhouse and one outside they both
regrow from the roots but I think I am lucky as I live in the south east and
it is relatively mild here.


It is quite happy here, and it is not mild by the standards of the
south of England! As Sacha says, that is precisely how it grows.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Kay Easton 03-05-2004 11:08 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
In article , Sacha
writes

They're herbs, hence herbaceous. ;-)


Explain bay ;-)

--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Sacha 04-05-2004 12:12 AM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
Kay Easton3/5/04 8:19

In article , Sacha
writes

They're herbs, hence herbaceous. ;-)


Explain bay ;-)


But you cut out my next sentence: "They die down in winter like many
herbs (not all)"
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)



Rhiannon S 04-05-2004 12:03 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
Subject: Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
From: Kay Easton
Date: 03/05/2004 20:19 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

In article , Sacha
writes

They're herbs, hence herbaceous. ;-)


Explain bay ;-)


Well, that's where you go to sell junk and is active all year round...Oh wait I
thought you said Ebay!
--
Rhiannon
http://www.livejournal.com/users/rhiannon_s/
"The trick is to commit crimes so confusing that police feel too stupid to even
write a crime report about them."
Aubrey on remaining at liberty
www.somethingpositive.net

martin 04-05-2004 12:04 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
On 04 May 2004 10:16:31 GMT, emon (Rhiannon S)
wrote:

Subject: Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
From: Kay Easton

Date: 03/05/2004 20:19 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

In article , Sacha
writes

They're herbs, hence herbaceous. ;-)


Explain bay ;-)


Well, that's where you go to sell junk and is active all year round...


or just to watch?

Steve Harris 04-05-2004 04:11 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
In article ,
(Sacha) wrote:

Best test - does rubbing
the leaves give any indication of tarragon scent on your fingers?


IME, at this time of year, you may not find any flavour/argon. I think
they need more sun.

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com
A useful bit of gardening software at
http://www.netservs.com/garden/

Sacha 04-05-2004 05:12 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
Steve Harris4/5/04 3:00

In article ,
(Sacha) wrote:

Best test - does rubbing
the leaves give any indication of tarragon scent on your fingers?


IME, at this time of year, you may not find any flavour/argon. I think
they need more sun.


This made me wonder so I went out and tested some of ours in pots. It
definitely smells tarragon-y if rubbed hard enough. But it isn't actually
releasing much scent into the air, I agree.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Kay Easton 04-05-2004 07:06 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
In article , Sacha
writes
Kay Easton3/5/04 8:19
@scarbo ro.demon.co.uk

In article , Sacha
writes

They're herbs, hence herbaceous. ;-)


Explain bay ;-)


But you cut out my next sentence: "They die down in winter like many
herbs (not all)"


Ah, but bay is a herb but not herbaceous ..that is what I was responding
to.

I nearly went back and added 'and what about chives?' ;-)
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Sarah Dale 04-05-2004 11:09 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
Sacha wrote:

Steve Harris4/5/04 3:00

In article ,
(Sacha) wrote:

Best test - does rubbing
the leaves give any indication of tarragon scent on your fingers?


IME, at this time of year, you may not find any flavour/argon. I think
they need more sun.


This made me wonder so I went out and tested some of ours in pots. It
definitely smells tarragon-y if rubbed hard enough. But it isn't actually
releasing much scent into the air, I agree.

Thanks to all for your responses. The plant that has resprouted *looks* like
tarragon, but didn't scent the air that much, or taste much of anything, so
I wasn't sure - it's the first year I have managed to keep tarragon over
winter, so its a bit of a learning curve. Hopefully some sunshine and more
growth, and it will be ready to eat!

Thanks, Sarah

Sacha 05-05-2004 12:04 AM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
Kay Easton4/5/04 6:48

In article , Sacha
writes
Kay Easton3/5/04 8:19

In article , Sacha
writes

They're herbs, hence herbaceous. ;-)

Explain bay ;-)


But you cut out my next sentence: "They die down in winter like many
herbs (not all)"


Ah, but bay is a herb but not herbaceous ..that is what I was responding
to.


Hence my "not all"...

I nearly went back and added 'and what about chives?' ;-)


What about them? You've lost me.

--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)



Sacha 05-05-2004 12:04 AM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
Sarah Dale4/5/04 10:41

Sacha wrote:

Steve Harris4/5/04 3:00

In article ,
(Sacha) wrote:

Best test - does rubbing
the leaves give any indication of tarragon scent on your fingers?

IME, at this time of year, you may not find any flavour/argon. I think
they need more sun.


This made me wonder so I went out and tested some of ours in pots. It
definitely smells tarragon-y if rubbed hard enough. But it isn't actually
releasing much scent into the air, I agree.

Thanks to all for your responses. The plant that has resprouted *looks* like
tarragon, but didn't scent the air that much, or taste much of anything, so
I wasn't sure - it's the first year I have managed to keep tarragon over
winter, so its a bit of a learning curve. Hopefully some sunshine and more
growth, and it will be ready to eat!

At this time of year the best bet is "if in doubt, let it grow but keep an
eye on it"! ;-)

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Kay Easton 05-05-2004 01:07 AM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
In article , Sacha
writes
Kay Easton4/5/04 6:48
@scarbo ro.demon.co.uk

In article , Sacha
writes
Kay Easton3/5/04 8:19

In article , Sacha
writes

They're herbs, hence herbaceous. ;-)

Explain bay ;-)

But you cut out my next sentence: "They die down in winter like many
herbs (not all)"


Ah, but bay is a herb but not herbaceous ..that is what I was responding
to.


Hence my "not all"...


But you didn't say not all in
They're herbs, hence herbaceous.

.. that was an absolute statement ;-)

I nearly went back and added 'and what about chives?' ;-)


What about them? You've lost me.

They're herbs, but not herbaceous.
Not all herbs are herbaceous.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Sacha 05-05-2004 01:07 AM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
Kay Easton5/5/04 12:02

In article , Sacha
writes
Kay Easton4/5/04 6:48

In article , Sacha
writes
Kay Easton3/5/04 8:19

In article , Sacha
writes

They're herbs, hence herbaceous. ;-)

Explain bay ;-)

But you cut out my next sentence: "They die down in winter like many
herbs (not all)"

Ah, but bay is a herb but not herbaceous ..that is what I was responding
to.


Hence my "not all"...


But you didn't say not all in
They're herbs, hence herbaceous.

.. that was an absolute statement ;-)


My dictionary's definition of bay doesn't give it as a herb; it describes it
as the "laurel tree, species of Magnolia, Myrica" etc. but calls the bay
leaf "a flavouring agent in cooking". So I suppose it is not to be
considered a herb as in herbaceous which again is defined as "herb: a plant
with a woody stem above ground, distinguished from a tree or shrub: a plant
used in medicine: an aromatic plant used in cookery." "Herbaceous -
pertaining to, composed of, containing, or of the nature of herbs; like
ordinary foliage leaves: usually understood as of tall herbs that die down
in winter and survive in underground parts."
So it would appear that you and all of us would be wrong in calling bay a
herb.

I nearly went back and added 'and what about chives?' ;-)


What about them? You've lost me.

They're herbs, but not herbaceous.
Not all herbs are herbaceous.


Chives are used as a herb but are in fact like the leek and onion. But I
had hoped to assist the original poster by describing the actions of such
plants as he asked about.

For the OP the answer is "yes, tarragon does regrow from its roots."
And it is herbaceous because it has a woody stem, dies down in winter and
grows again in spring/summer. And 'not all' plants called herbs follow
that pattern or botanical description. ;-)


--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)



Rodger Whitlock 05-05-2004 03:09 AM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
On Tue, 4 May 2004 18:48:50 +0100, Kay Easton wrote:

I nearly went back and added 'and what about chives?' ;-)


Well, what about chives?


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

Janet Baraclough.. 05-05-2004 06:04 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:202196

The message
from lid (Rodger Whitlock) contains these words:

On Tue, 4 May 2004 18:48:50 +0100, Kay Easton wrote:


I nearly went back and added 'and what about chives?' ;-)


Well, what about chives?


Somebody who isn't Rusty, please tell me what colour this thread is,
I'm lost...

Janet


Kay Easton 05-05-2004 07:08 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
In article , Rodger Whitlock
writes
On Tue, 4 May 2004 18:48:50 +0100, Kay Easton wrote:

I nearly went back and added 'and what about chives?' ;-)


Well, what about chives?

A herb in the culinary sense, but not herbaceous.
So doesn't fit with the original premise 'it's a herb so it's
herbaceous
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Kay Easton 05-05-2004 07:08 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
In article , Sacha
writes

My dictionary's definition of bay doesn't give it as a herb; it describes it
as the "laurel tree, species of Magnolia, Myrica" etc. but calls the bay
leaf "a flavouring agent in cooking". So I suppose it is not to be
considered a herb as in herbaceous which again is defined as "herb: a plant
with a woody stem above ground, distinguished from a tree or shrub: a plant
used in medicine: an aromatic plant used in cookery." "Herbaceous -
pertaining to, composed of, containing, or of the nature of herbs; like
ordinary foliage leaves: usually understood as of tall herbs that die down
in winter and survive in underground parts."
So it would appear that you and all of us would be wrong in calling bay a
herb.


That gets us back to the problem with so many words that have been
borrowed for use in other fields! If you take the first definition, then
'herb' is a synonym for herbaceous, and would include a whole lot of
things (eg thornapple, foxglove) that you would never dream of using in
cooking ... then you move to the second definition 'a plant used in
medicine' where foxglove would fit in nicely .. and to the third 'an
aromatic plant used in cookery' which definitely fits bay, but has now
moved away from the first definition.

Bit like 'fruit' really.


For the OP the answer is "yes, tarragon does regrow from its roots."
And it is herbaceous because it has a woody stem, dies down in winter and
grows again in spring/summer. And 'not all' plants called herbs follow
that pattern or botanical description. ;-)

Yep! We're agreed :-)


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Nick Maclaren 05-05-2004 08:15 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
In article ,
Kay Easton wrote:
In article , Rodger Whitlock
writes
On Tue, 4 May 2004 18:48:50 +0100, Kay Easton wrote:

I nearly went back and added 'and what about chives?' ;-)


Well, what about chives?

A herb in the culinary sense, but not herbaceous.
So doesn't fit with the original premise 'it's a herb so it's
herbaceous


Chives aren't herbaceous? If you have any that aren't, please tell
all ....


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Kay Easton 05-05-2004 11:10 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
In article , Nick Maclaren
writes
In article ,
Kay Easton wrote:
In article , Rodger Whitlock
writes
On Tue, 4 May 2004 18:48:50 +0100, Kay Easton wrote:

I nearly went back and added 'and what about chives?' ;-)

Well, what about chives?

A herb in the culinary sense, but not herbaceous.
So doesn't fit with the original premise 'it's a herb so it's
herbaceous


Chives aren't herbaceous? If you have any that aren't, please tell
all ....

In the gardening sense, as opposed to botanical, bulbs aren't what you
think of when you say 'herbaceous'. OK, I grant you they are not trees,
so perhaps they weren't the best counterexample to 'they're herbs and
therefore herbaceous'.

--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Sacha 05-05-2004 11:10 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
Kay Easton5/5/04 9:42

In article , Nick Maclaren
writes
In article ,
Kay Easton wrote:
In article , Rodger Whitlock
writes
On Tue, 4 May 2004 18:48:50 +0100, Kay Easton wrote:

I nearly went back and added 'and what about chives?' ;-)

Well, what about chives?

A herb in the culinary sense, but not herbaceous.
So doesn't fit with the original premise 'it's a herb so it's
herbaceous


Chives aren't herbaceous? If you have any that aren't, please tell
all ....

In the gardening sense, as opposed to botanical, bulbs aren't what you
think of when you say 'herbaceous'. OK, I grant you they are not trees,
so perhaps they weren't the best counterexample to 'they're herbs and
therefore herbaceous'.


You know what? There is something known as "too much information". To the
OP, yes your Tarragon will grow again from its roots every year, providing
frost and damp haven't killed it.

Now - what do you want to know about Chives? ;-)) BTW, your Lupins are
herbaceous, too. But don't eat them. ;-) And your peonies and your
daffodils and your Salvias - oh wait! - some of those are culinary! It's a
bummer, isn't it?
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)



Lazarus Cooke 07-05-2004 03:10 PM

Tarragon - does it regrow from roots?
 
In article , Sacha
wrote:

So it would appear that you and all of us would be wrong in calling bay a
herb.


I suspect it was thought of as a herb long before your narrow
definition of a herb was first laid down.

In my view, if it walks like a herb, and quacks like a herb, then it's
a herb.

Lazarus

--
Remover the rock from the email address


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