Hop seed: ? Fuggles?
 

How long does it take hop seed to germinate?
Any special requirements?

Todd

Hop seed: ? Fuggles?
 

Todd wrote:

How long does it take hop seed to germinate?
Any special requirements?

I've only seen it propagated from root cuttings, since you want only, I
think, male plants for their flowers. Grows like a weed that way.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Hop seed: ? Fuggles?
 

In article , Todd
writes
How long does it take hop seed to germinate?
Any special requirements?

I have 12 brewing hop plants growing along a large trellis. I grew them from seed
from a bine given to me by a Kentish brewer in 1994 and I believe it took a
couple of years before the plants started producing. So if you sow the seeds this
autumn, the plants will start growing next year and you should get some hops in
2006.

If you want to use them for home brewing, you will need to discard all the male
plants except one. Males have very tiny flowers; it is the females that bear the
hops.

Beware! Once the plants are established, the roots spread, and the plants grow
very tall - in excess of 20 feet. Mine are already about 10 feet tall and I have
to train them up the longest hazel nut sticks I can find. Even then they grow off
the top.

If you are thinking of purchasing seed, the new dwarf varieties like First Gold
would be better for a garden.
--
Roy Bailey
West Berkshire.

Hop seed: ? Fuggles?
 

"Roy Bailey" wrote in message
...
In article , Todd
writes
How long does it take hop seed to germinate?
Any special requirements?

I have 12 brewing hop plants growing along a large trellis. I grew them
from seed
from a bine given to me by a Kentish brewer in 1994 and I believe it took
a
couple of years before the plants started producing. So if you sow the
seeds this
autumn, the plants will start growing next year and you should get some
hops in
2006.

If you want to use them for home brewing, you will need to discard all the
male
plants except one. Males have very tiny flowers; it is the females that
bear the
hops.

Beware! Once the plants are established, the roots spread, and the plants
grow
very tall - in excess of 20 feet. Mine are already about 10 feet tall and
I have
to train them up the longest hazel nut sticks I can find. Even then they
grow off
the top.

If you are thinking of purchasing seed, the new dwarf varieties like First
Gold
would be better for a garden.
--
Roy Bailey
West Berkshire.
*********************************
In the County of Kent, England, (known as the 'The Garden of England'
because of its many fecund orchards and its balmy summer weather so
suitable for growing hops and hard fruits such as apples), the hop-pickers
families including the women and children from the London slums used to
gather at harvest time, lived in tents and made some much needed wages.
The men tended and cut the hops and in order to carry out the work they
stood and walked about standing on very high wooden stilts.
The women and children gathered the cut hop-heads, packed them into baskets
and did all the tidying up. They treated it as a holiday.
I think it is a pity that the noble tradition has now passed.
Doug.
********************************

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"Douglas" wrote:

the hop-pickers
families including the women and children from the London slums used to
gather at harvest time, lived in tents and made some much needed wages.

Schoharie County, U.S. was likewise a center of hop farming some years ago.
The schools closed for a week or so in the fall for the harvest.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

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"Douglas" wrote in message news:...

"Roy Bailey" wrote in message
...
In article , Todd
writes
How long does it take hop seed to germinate?
Any special requirements?

I have 12 brewing hop plants growing along a large trellis. I grew them
from seed
from a bine given to me by a Kentish brewer in 1994 and I believe it
took
a
couple of years before the plants started producing. So if you sow the
seeds this
autumn, the plants will start growing next year and you should get some
hops in
2006.

If you want to use them for home brewing, you will need to discard all
the
male
plants except one. Males have very tiny flowers; it is the females that
bear the
hops.

Beware! Once the plants are established, the roots spread, and the
plants
grow
very tall - in excess of 20 feet. Mine are already about 10 feet tall
and
I have
to train them up the longest hazel nut sticks I can find. Even then they
grow off
the top.

If you are thinking of purchasing seed, the new dwarf varieties like
First
Gold
would be better for a garden.
--
Roy Bailey
West Berkshire.
*********************************
In the County of Kent, England, (known as the 'The Garden of England'
because of its many fecund orchards and its balmy summer weather so
suitable for growing hops and hard fruits such as apples), the hop-pickers
families including the women and children from the London slums used to
gather at harvest time, lived in tents and made some much needed wages.
The men tended and cut the hops and in order to carry out the work they
stood and walked about standing on very high wooden stilts.
The women and children gathered the cut hop-heads, packed them into
baskets
and did all the tidying up. They treated it as a holiday.
I think it is a pity that the noble tradition has now passed.
Doug.
********************************

Hop seed: ? Fuggles?
 

"Douglas" wrote
In the County of Kent, England, (known as the 'The Garden of England'
because of its many fecund orchards and its balmy summer weather so
suitable for growing hops and hard fruits such as apples), the hop-pickers
families including the women and children from the London slums used to
gather at harvest time, lived in tents and made some much needed wages.
The men tended and cut the hops and in order to carry out the work they
stood and walked about standing on very high wooden stilts.
The women and children gathered the cut hop-heads, packed them into
baskets
and did all the tidying up. They treated it as a holiday.
I think it is a pity that the noble tradition has now passed.
Doug.

Anyone who wants to experience the "noble tradition" of handcropping
for a "holiday", could join the workgangs of East-Europeans who do such
work on British farms for a pittance.

Only very poor people will tolerate such working conditions; which is
why it was done by London's slum inhabitants (and rural women and
children in Herefordshire, and children in Scotland).

Janet.

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On Mon, 17 May 2004 12:32:54 +0100, this interesting one arrived from
Janet Baraclough.. :

Anyone who wants to experience the "noble tradition" of handcropping
for a "holiday", could join the workgangs of East-Europeans who do such
work on British farms for a pittance.

Go forth and multiply. You f*****g T**d

Nibbs

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The message
from Janet Baraclough.. contains
these words:

"Douglas" wrote
In the County of Kent, England, (known as the 'The Garden of England'
because of its many fecund orchards and its balmy summer weather so
suitable for growing hops and hard fruits such as apples), the
hop-pickers
families including the women and children from the London slums used to
gather at harvest time, lived in tents and made some much needed wages.
The men tended and cut the hops and in order to carry out the work they
stood and walked about standing on very high wooden stilts.
The women and children gathered the cut hop-heads, packed them into
baskets
and did all the tidying up. They treated it as a holiday.
I think it is a pity that the noble tradition has now passed.
Doug.

Anyone who wants to experience the "noble tradition" of handcropping
for a "holiday", could join the workgangs of East-Europeans who do such
work on British farms for a pittance.

Only very poor people will tolerate such working conditions; which is
why it was done by London's slum inhabitants (and rural women and
children in Herefordshire, and children in Scotland).

There were so many rules and regulations brought in about employing
youngsters to pick berries that a farmer friend of mine now has
squads of East Europeans pick his crops. They do a far better
job, too, according to him.

--
AnneJ

Hop seed: ? Fuggles?
 

On Mon, 17 May 2004 22:33:25 +0100, Anne Jackson
wrote:


Only very poor people will tolerate such working conditions; which is
why it was done by London's slum inhabitants (and rural women and
children in Herefordshire, and children in Scotland).

There were so many rules and regulations brought in about employing
youngsters to pick berries that a farmer friend of mine now has
squads of East Europeans pick his crops. They do a far better
job, too, according to him.

There are also rules about employing East Europeans, but these tend to
be ignored.

Hop seed: ? Fuggles?
 

On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:40:51 +0100, this interesting one arrived from
Roy Bailey :

In article , Todd
writes
How long does it take hop seed to germinate?
Any special requirements?

I have 12 brewing hop plants growing along a large trellis. I grew them from seed
from a bine given to me by a Kentish brewer in 1994 and I believe it took a
couple of years before the plants started producing. So if you sow the seeds this
autumn, the plants will start growing next year and you should get some hops in
2006.

If you want to use them for home brewing, you will need to discard all the male
plants except one. Males have very tiny flowers; it is the females that bear the
hops.

Beware! Once the plants are established, the roots spread, and the plants grow
very tall - in excess of 20 feet. Mine are already about 10 feet tall and I have
to train them up the longest hazel nut sticks I can find. Even then they grow off
the top.

If you are thinking of purchasing seed, the new dwarf varieties like First Gold
would be better for a garden.

Thanks for the info Roy.

Hop seed: ? Fuggles?
 

On Mon, 17 May 2004 00:25:07 +0100, this interesting one arrived from
"Douglas" :

In the County of Kent, England, (known as the 'The Garden of England'
because of its many fecund orchards and its balmy summer weather so
suitable for growing hops and hard fruits such as apples), the hop-pickers
families including the women and children from the London slums used to
gather at harvest time, lived in tents and made some much needed wages.

This brings back memories! For my sins, a badly blotted copy book,
instead of returning to Scotland for the summer vac I had to spend
from May to October '59 in Kent at the home of my professor compiling
an inventory of very dry manuscripts and publications dealing with the
Late Middle Ages.....I thought I was in for one hell of a time. Thanks
to an old grocery delivery bike it was one of the best summers I have
ever experienced. Social, economic and demographic change was in full
swing but the beer, cider, grub, scenery and people (females) well
what can one say.

Todd

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On Mon, 17 May 2004 12:32:54 +0100, this interesting one arrived from
Janet Baraclough.. :

LEFT WING RUBBISH SNIPPED

You silly old c**t. Go forth and multiply.
How long does it take for a brain like yours to get so f****d up?
Never mind germination time.....you f******g old fart.

Thankyou for your contribution.

Angus

Hop seed: ? Fuggles?
 

Todd wrote:

Thanks
to an old grocery delivery bike it was one of the best summers I have
ever experienced.

Is that what used to be called (still is?) "rusticated?"

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

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On Tue, 18 May 2004 13:55:27 +0100, Angus Storerer
wrote:


LEFT WING RUBBISH SNIPPED

You silly old c**t. Go forth and multiply.
How long does it take for a brain like yours to get so f****d up?
Never mind germination time.....you f******g old fart.

Why bother with self censorship? If you're going to be that offensive
and incendiary why not have the balls to say what you mean?

Even better: don't bother at all.

Matt

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The message
from Matt Barton contains these words:

On Tue, 18 May 2004 13:55:27 +0100, Angus Storerer
wrote:


LEFT WING RUBBISH SNIPPED

You silly old c**t. Go forth and multiply.
How long does it take for a brain like yours to get so f****d up?
Never mind germination time.....you f******g old fart.

Why bother with self censorship? If you're going to be that offensive
and incendiary why not have the balls to say what you mean?

Even better: don't bother at all.

Don't be getting on at him, the poor lad is having an identity crisis.
He can't decide whether he's Homer Anderson, or Angus Storerer.

--
AnneJ

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On Tue, 18 May 2004 17:12:19 +0100, Anne Jackson
wrote:

The message
from Matt Barton contains these words:

On Tue, 18 May 2004 13:55:27 +0100, Angus Storerer
wrote:


LEFT WING RUBBISH SNIPPED

You silly old c**t. Go forth and multiply.
How long does it take for a brain like yours to get so f****d up?
Never mind germination time.....you f******g old fart.

Why bother with self censorship? If you're going to be that offensive
and incendiary why not have the balls to say what you mean?

Even better: don't bother at all.

Don't be getting on at him, the poor lad is having an identity crisis.
He can't decide whether he's Homer Anderson, or Angus Storerer.

URG the caring newsgroup:-)

Hop seed: ? Fuggles?
 

On Tue, 18 May 2004 17:12:19 +0100, this interesting one arrived from
Anne Jackson :

Don't be getting on at him, the poor lad is having an identity crisis.
He can't decide whether he's Homer Anderson, or Angus Storerer.

I think his/her real name is Morph!

Hop seed: ? Fuggles?
 

"Gary Woods" wrote in message
...
"Douglas" wrote:

the hop-pickers
families including the women and children from the London slums used to
gather at harvest time, lived in tents and made some much needed wages.

Schoharie County, U.S. was likewise a center of hop farming some years
ago.
The schools closed for a week or so in the fall for the harvest.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

*********************************
In Scotland the tradition was that the schools closed for a few days to
allow the children to go "Tattie-picking" when the occasion merited .
I have happy memories of the Scottish people in wartime at East Fortune, -
and later holidays with my family at Lossiemouth.
Here's tae us! Wha's like us?!. Ah'm way hame fer a wee bit the meat, some
tatties and neeps!.
Happy memories!. At East Fortune the tiny village residents knocked two
terraced houses together and the lads from the camp's dispersed huts in the
lonely woods could go there for a cup of tea and a wad and pleasant company
and a chat.
Bless 'em all!.
Doug.

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"Matt Barton" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 May 2004 13:55:27 +0100, Angus Storerer
wrote:


LEFT WING RUBBISH SNIPPED

*************************************
Glad you did, matey, I am thinking of joining the N.F.
Doug.
************************************
You silly old c**t. Go forth and multiply.
************************************
Can't be one of them. - Sorry! I am a male.
Done all the multiplying, read the book, seen the film, got the T shirt.
got the children.
Doug.
************************************
How long does it take for a brain like yours to get so f****d up?
************************************
It got that way in the Burma jungles, sonny-boy.
(Gad! - the heat!, Will those drums never stop?).
Doug.
************************************
Never mind germination time.....you f******g old fart.
************************************
Thwe-e-rrrp!.
Doug.
************************************
Why bother with self censorship? If you're going to be that offensive
and incendiary why not have the balls to say what you mean?
************************************
Self censorship is discussing hop-picking?. methimks you should stop
lifting your elbow so often and ration yourself with the Best Bitter.
I use my gizmo to say what I mean.
Doug
***********************************
Even better: don't bother at all.
Matt
***********************************
Good advice, ole Mattie!. Thanks for a goodole laff this dull morning!
Next time you transmit take the trouble to look at the Newsgroups panel at
the top of the page and learn how to insert the correct Newsgroup.
(Did you learn that kind of filthy language at your dear ole Mother's knee
in between attending to her customers?).
You have no shame.
Doug
***********************************

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On Thu, 20 May 2004 11:05:37 +0100, this arrived from "Douglas"
:

Can't be one of them. - Sorry! I am a male.
Done all the multiplying, read the book, seen the film, got the T shirt.
got the children.

I suspect the post which you are replying to was not meant for you.
Nice reply tho'

Dylan

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"Dylan" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 May 2004 11:05:37 +0100, this arrived from "Douglas"
:

Can't be one of them. - Sorry! I am a male.
Done all the multiplying, read the book, seen the film, got the T shirt.
got the children.

I suspect the post which you are replying to was not meant for you.
Nice reply tho'

Dylan
****************************

O.K., Dyl owd lad!.
Yup!, I figured that, but being ex RAF one has seen and dealt with it all
before, so one has to be tolerant and try not to go off at half-cock.
An amusing reply with just a hint of sarky does no-one any real harm and no
answer seems to indicate the truth of your final and penultimate line.
All best to you and yours!.
Doug.
****************************

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On Thu, 20 May 2004 11:05:37 +0100, "Douglas"
wrote:


"Matt Barton" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 18 May 2004 13:55:27 +0100, Angus Storerer
wrote:


LEFT WING RUBBISH SNIPPED

*************************************
Glad you did, matey, I am thinking of joining the N.F.
Doug.
************************************
You silly old c**t. Go forth and multiply.
************************************
Can't be one of them. - Sorry! I am a male.
Done all the multiplying, read the book, seen the film, got the T shirt.
got the children.
Doug.
************************************
How long does it take for a brain like yours to get so f****d up?
************************************
It got that way in the Burma jungles, sonny-boy.
(Gad! - the heat!, Will those drums never stop?).
Doug.
************************************
Never mind germination time.....you f******g old fart.
************************************
Thwe-e-rrrp!.
Doug.
************************************
Why bother with self censorship? If you're going to be that offensive
and incendiary why not have the balls to say what you mean?
************************************
Self censorship is discussing hop-picking?. methimks you should stop
lifting your elbow so often and ration yourself with the Best Bitter.
I use my gizmo to say what I mean.
Doug

Douglas,

You appear to think that I was the usenet poster who launched an
unexpected attack on those discussing hop-picking, when in fact I was,
perhaps unadvisedly, commenting on the attack itself, and the
perpetrators apparent wish to call someone a "****" without (*gasp*)
actually writing the word itself. That is the self-censorship about
which I was making comment

You appear to have missed it, but I was infact replying to "Angus
Storerer". It is he who saw fit to snip "left wing rubbish" and call
people "****s". Not I.

Since you seem to be an amiable chap, I'm sure you won't mind me
pointing out your mistake.

***********************************
Even better: don't bother at all.
Matt
***********************************
Good advice, ole Mattie!. Thanks for a goodole laff this dull morning!
Next time you transmit take the trouble to look at the Newsgroups panel at
the top of the page and learn how to insert the correct Newsgroup.
(Did you learn that kind of filthy language at your dear ole Mother's knee
in between attending to her customers?).
You have no shame.
Doug
***********************************

Thanks for the usenet advice, Douglas. I suggest you take a look at a
"how to properly attribute others messages" FAQ. Before the next time
you "transmit" that is.

If I have no shame, sir, you have no great ability to read usenet
posts.

Perhaps you would like to post again so that you can vent your spleen
at "Angus" who would seem to be the real agent of your mirth?

Matt

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In article
Anne Jackson wrote:

The message
from Matt Barton contains these words:

On Tue, 18 May 2004 13:55:27 +0100, Angus Storerer
wrote:


LEFT WING RUBBISH SNIPPED

You silly old c**t. Go forth and multiply.
How long does it take for a brain like yours to get so f****d up?
Never mind germination time.....you f******g old fart.

Why bother with self censorship? If you're going to be that offensive
and incendiary why not have the balls to say what you mean?

Even better: don't bother at all.

Don't be getting on at him, the poor lad is having an identity crisis.
He can't decide whether he's Homer Anderson, or Angus Storerer.

--
AnneJ

Anne "Amygdala",

I bet a pinch of natural fertilzer to a sniff of your roses your brain has
yet to develop beyond the Hypothalamus.

Weir

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The message e
from Anonymous contains these words:

Anne "Amygdala",

I bet a pinch of natural fertilzer to a sniff of your roses your brain has
yet to develop beyond the Hypothalamus.

Weir

You've dropped the 'd' of your end.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

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The message e
from Anonymous contains these words:
In article
Anne Jackson wrote:
The message
from Matt Barton contains these words:
On Tue, 18 May 2004 13:55:27 +0100, Angus Storerer
wrote:

LEFT WING RUBBISH SNIPPED

You silly old c**t. Go forth and multiply.
How long does it take for a brain like yours to get so f****d up?
Never mind germination time.....you f******g old fart.

Why bother with self censorship? If you're going to be that offensive
and incendiary why not have the balls to say what you mean?

Even better: don't bother at all.

Don't be getting on at him, the poor lad is having an identity crisis.
He can't decide whether he's Homer Anderson, or Angus Storerer.

Anne "Amygdala",
I bet a pinch of natural fertilzer to a sniff of your roses your brain has
yet to develop beyond the Hypothalamus.

Hmmmm! So you know a little bit about brains, do you? Strange, since you
don't appear to actually *have* one!

--
AnneJ

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On Sat, 22 May 2004 03:35:03 +0100, whilst Caruthers was ****ing the
maid stupid, (much to her great delight) this amazing cracker arrived
from Anne Jackson not wishing to put
Caruthers of his stroke I decided to deal with it:

Hmmmm! So you know a little bit about brains, do you? Strange, since you
don't appear to actually *have* one!

He has but never uses it!

Berni