Price of trees
I was in one of my nearby garden centres at the weekend having a general
browse when I noticed a beautiful specimen labelled as Acer palmatum var. dissectum 'Ornatum'. At a guess I'd say it was about 2m tall with a spread of about 4-5m. It was in a *huge* pot. I had to look at the price out of curiosity - £2500 (!) This didn't exactly strike me as good value for money. Do people ever buy plants for this sort of price? Alternatively, would they have simply put a price on, knowing they'll never sell it, but "nothing ventured nothing gained"? Neil |
Price of trees
"Neil Jones" wrote in message ... I was in one of my nearby garden centres at the weekend having a general browse when I noticed a beautiful specimen labelled as Acer palmatum var. dissectum 'Ornatum'. At a guess I'd say it was about 2m tall with a spread of about 4-5m. It was in a *huge* pot. I had to look at the price out of curiosity - £2500 (!) This didn't exactly strike me as good value for money. Do people ever buy plants for this sort of price? Alternatively, would they have simply put a price on, knowing they'll never sell it, but "nothing ventured nothing gained"? Neil That tree would be very many years old and have demanded very much care and skill. It would transplant into a new garden and give instant effect that would last a lifetime. That same money would only buy an old 'banger' that would soon become redundant. Fortunately, at long last, plantsmen are able to achieve an income that reflects all their training, work and expertise. It will sell~ and was probably bought by the centre knowing that it will sell. Best Wishes Brian |
Price of trees
"Brian" wrote in message
... "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... I was in one of my nearby garden centres at the weekend having a general browse when I noticed a beautiful specimen labelled as Acer palmatum var. dissectum 'Ornatum'. At a guess I'd say it was about 2m tall with a spread of about 4-5m. It was in a *huge* pot. I had to look at the price out of curiosity - £2500 (!) This didn't exactly strike me as good value for money. Do people ever buy plants for this sort of price? Alternatively, would they have simply put a price on, knowing they'll never sell it, but "nothing ventured nothing gained"? Neil That tree would be very many years old and have demanded very much care and skill. It would transplant into a new garden and give instant effect that would last a lifetime. That same money would only buy an old 'banger' that would soon become redundant. Fortunately, at long last, plantsmen are able to achieve an income that reflects all their training, work and expertise. It will sell~ and was probably bought by the centre knowing that it will sell. Best Wishes Brian I blame the instant garden TV programmes. -- Nick Wagg |
Price of trees
"Nick Wagg" wrote in message ... "Brian" wrote in message ... "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... I was in one of my nearby garden centres at the weekend having a general browse when I noticed a beautiful specimen labelled as Acer palmatum var. dissectum 'Ornatum'. At a guess I'd say it was about 2m tall with a spread of about 4-5m. It was in a *huge* pot. I had to look at the price out of curiosity - £2500 (!) This didn't exactly strike me as good value for money. Do people ever buy plants for this sort of price? Alternatively, would they have simply put a price on, knowing they'll never sell it, but "nothing ventured nothing gained"? Neil That tree would be very many years old and have demanded very much care and skill. It would transplant into a new garden and give instant effect that would last a lifetime. That same money would only buy an old 'banger' that would soon become redundant. Fortunately, at long last, plantsmen are able to achieve an income that reflects all their training, work and expertise. It will sell~ and was probably bought by the centre knowing that it will sell. Best Wishes Brian I blame the instant garden TV programmes. -- Nick Wagg Alternatively (from my experience of buying such things) blame it on people of relatively senior age who say to me they want a plant and they haven't got the time to wait for it to grow... but do have the money to pay for the right one. Patrick |
Price of trees
In article , tuin man
wrote: "Nick Wagg" wrote in message ... "Brian" wrote in message ... "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... I was in one of my nearby garden centres at the weekend having a general browse when I noticed a beautiful specimen labelled as Acer palmatum var. dissectum 'Ornatum'. At a guess I'd say it was about 2m tall with a spread of about 4-5m. It was in a *huge* pot. I had to look at the price out of curiosity - £2500 (!) This didn't exactly strike me as good value for money. Do people ever buy plants for this sort of price? Alternatively, would they have simply put a price on, knowing they'll never sell it, but "nothing ventured nothing gained"? Neil That tree would be very many years old and have demanded very much care and skill. It would transplant into a new garden and give instant effect that would last a lifetime. That same money would only buy an old 'banger' that would soon become redundant. Fortunately, at long last, plantsmen are able to achieve an income that reflects all their training, work and expertise. It will sell~ and was probably bought by the centre knowing that it will sell. Best Wishes Brian I blame the instant garden TV programmes. -- Nick Wagg Alternatively (from my experience of buying such things) blame it on people of relatively senior age who say to me they want a plant and they haven't got the time to wait for it to grow... but do have the money to pay for the right one. Patrick Hear, hear. I'm not going to be around for 20 years to see a tree mature so I'll willingly spend to enjoy it while I'm still breathing! In fact, I'm about to shell out thousands on 50 mature Photinia to make an instant boundary screen. Simon |
Price of trees
"Stan The Man" wrote in message ... In article , tuin man wrote: "Nick Wagg" wrote in message ... "Brian" wrote in message ... "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... I was in one of my nearby garden centres at the weekend having a general browse when I noticed a beautiful specimen labelled as Acer palmatum var. dissectum 'Ornatum'. At a guess I'd say it was about 2m tall with a spread of about 4-5m. It was in a *huge* pot. I had to look at the price out of curiosity - £2500 (!) This didn't exactly strike me as good value for money. Do people ever buy plants for this sort of price? Alternatively, would they have simply put a price on, knowing they'll never sell it, but "nothing ventured nothing gained"? Neil That tree would be very many years old and have demanded very much care and skill. It would transplant into a new garden and give instant effect that would last a lifetime. That same money would only buy an old 'banger' that would soon become redundant. Fortunately, at long last, plantsmen are able to achieve an income that reflects all their training, work and expertise. It will sell~ and was probably bought by the centre knowing that it will sell. Best Wishes Brian I blame the instant garden TV programmes. -- Nick Wagg Alternatively (from my experience of buying such things) blame it on people of relatively senior age who say to me they want a plant and they haven't got the time to wait for it to grow... but do have the money to pay for the right one. Patrick Hear, hear. I'm not going to be around for 20 years to see a tree mature so I'll willingly spend to enjoy it while I'm still breathing! In fact, I'm about to shell out thousands on 50 mature Photinia to make an instant boundary screen. Simon Do make sure you have a good irrigation system set up. Plants of this size DO NOT ordinarily just die after transplanting into open ground as is so commonly supposed. But they sure as hell will if they're not watered adequately within at least the first 2 years. Furthermore, nurseries know they are selling a sound product and so there is no need for providing a guarantee. Which means there's no point in going back to them if any do die. Garden centres on the other hand are more ... hmm... accommodating sometimes. Though can have quite a mark up (Min..£500 plus each at a nursery) If you are having this job done by say a landscaper and s/he is suggesting some form of guarantee, but there's no irrigation clause... then watch out. No one can really afford to absorb such a heavy loss! Patrick |
Price of trees
"Nick Wagg" wrote in message ... "Brian" wrote in message ... "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... I was in one of my nearby garden centres at the weekend having a general browse when I noticed a beautiful specimen labelled as Acer palmatum var. dissectum 'Ornatum'. At a guess I'd say it was about 2m tall with a spread of about 4-5m. It was in a *huge* pot. I had to look at the price out of curiosity - £2500 (!) This didn't exactly strike me as good value for money. Do people ever buy plants for this sort of price? Alternatively, would they have simply put a price on, knowing they'll never sell it, but "nothing ventured nothing gained"? Neil That tree would be very many years old and have demanded very much care and skill. It would transplant into a new garden and give instant effect that would last a lifetime. That same money would only buy an old 'banger' that would soon become redundant. Fortunately, at long last, plantsmen are able to achieve an income that reflects all their training, work and expertise. It will sell~ and was probably bought by the centre knowing that it will sell. Best Wishes Brian I blame the instant garden TV programmes. -- Nick Wagg **************************** It's a mistake. For a slightly developed simple acer palmatum variegated dissectum of that size I would say about 60 to75 quid. During developement from small they require very little attention, though it has to be said that the grower has got the plant on his hands for a long time and it has taken up space. Why hasn't it been sold long before now?. They are very slow growing in the early stages. Don't forget that they are trees, - eventually. I have three or four Acers, all quite small. A fiver each at B&Q's. When they reach medium large size they'll be chucked. I haven't the room. Not to worry I have a few cuttings developing slowly to take their places, - if I survive long enough. Doug. **************************** |
Price of trees
"Stan The Man" wrote in message ... In article , tuin man wrote: "Nick Wagg" wrote in message ... "Brian" wrote in message ... "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... I was in one of my nearby garden centres at the weekend having a general browse when I noticed a beautiful specimen labelled as Acer palmatum var. dissectum 'Ornatum'. At a guess I'd say it was about 2m tall with a spread of about 4-5m. It was in a *huge* pot. I had to look at the price out of curiosity - £2500 (!) This didn't exactly strike me as good value for money. Do people ever buy plants for this sort of price? Alternatively, would they have simply put a price on, knowing they'll never sell it, but "nothing ventured nothing gained"? Neil That tree would be very many years old and have demanded very much care and skill. It would transplant into a new garden and give instant effect that would last a lifetime. That same money would only buy an old 'banger' that would soon become redundant. Fortunately, at long last, plantsmen are able to achieve an income that reflects all their training, work and expertise. It will sell~ and was probably bought by the centre knowing that it will sell. Best Wishes Brian I blame the instant garden TV programmes. -- Nick Wagg Alternatively (from my experience of buying such things) blame it on people of relatively senior age who say to me they want a plant and they haven't got the time to wait for it to grow... but do have the money to pay for the right one. Patrick Hear, hear. I'm not going to be around for 20 years to see a tree mature so I'll willingly spend to enjoy it while I'm still breathing! In fact, I'm about to shell out thousands on 50 mature Photinia to make an instant boundary screen. Simon *********************** Skinflint! (:^) Just when your offspring were looking forward to dashing out and buying a new Porsche. Photinia, (beauverdinia ,late spring,/serrulata, spring. Deciduous large shrub or small rather slender tree up to 30 feet. Tut-tut! Cupped-hand Voice from outside, - "Is there anybody there?!!. Doug. *********************** |
Price of trees
"tuin man" wrote in message ... "Stan The Man" wrote in message ... In article , tuin man wrote: "Nick Wagg" wrote in message ... "Brian" wrote in message ... "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... I was in one of my nearby garden centres at the weekend having a general browse when I noticed a beautiful specimen labelled as Acer palmatum var. dissectum 'Ornatum'. At a guess I'd say it was about 2m tall with a spread of about 4-5m. It was in a *huge* pot. I had to look at the price out of curiosity - £2500 (!) This didn't exactly strike me as good value for money. Do people ever buy plants for this sort of price? Alternatively, would they have simply put a price on, knowing they'll never sell it, but "nothing ventured nothing gained"? Neil That tree would be very many years old and have demanded very much care and skill. It would transplant into a new garden and give instant effect that would last a lifetime. That same money would only buy an old 'banger' that would soon become redundant. Fortunately, at long last, plantsmen are able to achieve an income that reflects all their training, work and expertise. It will sell~ and was probably bought by the centre knowing that it will sell. Best Wishes Brian I blame the instant garden TV programmes. -- Nick Wagg Alternatively (from my experience of buying such things) blame it on people of relatively senior age who say to me they want a plant and they haven't got the time to wait for it to grow... but do have the money to pay for the right one. Patrick Hear, hear. I'm not going to be around for 20 years to see a tree mature so I'll willingly spend to enjoy it while I'm still breathing! In fact, I'm about to shell out thousands on 50 mature Photinia to make an instant boundary screen. Simon Do make sure you have a good irrigation system set up. Plants of this size DO NOT ordinarily just die after transplanting into open ground as is so commonly supposed. But they sure as hell will if they're not watered adequately within at least the first 2 years. Furthermore, nurseries know they are selling a sound product and so there is no need for providing a guarantee. Which means there's no point in going back to them if any do die. Garden centres on the other hand are more ... hmm... accommodating sometimes. Though can have quite a mark up (Min..£500 plus each at a nursery) If you are having this job done by say a landscaper and s/he is suggesting some form of guarantee, but there's no irrigation clause... then watch out. No one can really afford to absorb such a heavy loss! Patrick ********************* Very good and wise information in my opinion. Doug. ********************* |
Price of trees
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from "Douglas" contains these words: Very good and wise information in my opinion. Here's some even better. That post had four screens of unedited, irrelevent material for readers to scroll through before your one-liner contribution. If you make a habit of that, very few people will bother to open posts from you, and you will effectively be talking only to yourself. Janet |
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from Janet Baraclough.. contains these words: The message from "Douglas" contains these words: Very good and wise information in my opinion. Here's some even better. That post had four screens of unedited, irrelevent material for readers to scroll through before your one-liner contribution. If you make a habit of that, very few people will bother to open posts from you, and you will effectively be talking only to yourself. I've stopped bothering already. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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On Sun, 30 May 2004 21:48:13 +0100, Janet Baraclough..
wrote: The message from "Douglas" contains these words: Very good and wise information in my opinion. Here's some even better. That post had four screens of unedited, irrelevent material for readers to scroll through before your one-liner contribution. If you make a habit of that, very few people will bother to open posts from you, and you will effectively be talking only to yourself. sigh use the page down key. |
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I have three or four Acers, all quite small. A fiver each at B&Q's. When
they reach medium large size they'll be chucked. I haven't the room. Not to worry I have a few cuttings developing slowly to take their places, - if I survive long enough. Doug. **************************** Douglas, Did you note the size of the tree? Must have been more than twenty years old. Of that size and age it has probably been a feature in a number of shows but has now outgrown its use. But more seriously~ have you really managed to strike cuttings? I had access to every possible means of propagation, but never attempted, as grafting was stated to be the only method possible. Even species were understood to be only possible from seeds. Best Wishes Brian. |
Price of trees
"Janet Baraclough.." wrote in message ... The message from "Douglas" contains these words: Very good and wise information in my opinion. Here's some even better. That post had four screens of unedited, irrelevent material for readers to scroll through before your one-liner contribution. If you make a habit of that, very few people will bother to open posts from you, and you will effectively be talking only to yourself. Janet Erm.. since when does general information on after care of expensive trees become irrelevant? Patrick |
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himp.freeserve.co.uk writes "Janet Baraclough.." wrote in message .. . The message from "Douglas" contains these words: Very good and wise information in my opinion. Here's some even better. That post had four screens of unedited, irrelevent material for readers to scroll through before your one-liner contribution. If you make a habit of that, very few people will bother to open posts from you, and you will effectively be talking only to yourself. Janet Erm.. since when does general information on after care of expensive trees become irrelevant? When it's been posted once and the respondent wants to add one line of comment. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message k... The message from Janet Baraclough.. contains these words: The message from "Douglas" contains these words: Very good and wise information in my opinion. Here's some even better. That post had four screens of unedited, irrelevent material for readers to scroll through before your one-liner contribution. If you make a habit of that, very few people will bother to open posts from you, and you will effectively be talking only to yourself. I've stopped bothering already. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ ************************* But you haven't - have you- you've had your say and good luck to you. With a moniker like yours it's about time you took an oilcan to the hinges of that gate with the horrid. squeak. Wot's a foobar?.... (Local dialect?). Doug. ************************* |
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"Brian" wrote in message ... I have three or four Acers, all quite small. A fiver each at B&Q's. When they reach medium large size they'll be chucked. I haven't the room. Not to worry I have a few cuttings developing slowly to take their places, - if I survive long enough. Doug. **************************** Douglas, Did you note the size of the tree? Must have been more than twenty years old. Of that size and age it has probably been a feature in a number of shows but has now outgrown its use. But more seriously~ have you really managed to strike cuttings? I had access to every possible means of propagation, but never attempted, as grafting was stated to be the only method possible. Even species were understood to be only possible from seeds. Best Wishes Brian. ****************************** Brian, m'dear chap! . If I have something that's done its biz and outgrown its usefulness I give it away or chuck it!! Anyroad up,- about the cuttings. I am so mooed up in my garden and greenhouses I can't remenber what's what. am also looking after a very sick person so though I do my best my affairs are a bit dodgy just now,. So please bear with me when I say, in the face of your evidence I ask your indulgence for me to withdraw from the cuttings striking forum as I haven;t time to look anything up and I don't want to lead anyone astray when I am not quite sure of my facts. The four Acers are in separate pots on the front patio. I have done a sweep and can't find any other than the larger ones I have. Sorry for any inconvenience caused!. You were absolutely correct to question the veracty of rooting Acer cuttings. Best wishes!. Doug. *****************************. |
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"Janet Baraclough.." wrote in message ... The message from "Douglas" contains these words: Very good and wise information in my opinion. ************** What was?. ************** Here's some even better. That post had four screens of unedited, irrelevent material for readers to scroll through before your one-liner contribution. If you make a habit of that, very few people will bother to open posts from you, and you will effectively be talking only to yourself. Janet ********************** Each to his own. I also don't like people who use up precious space and gigahertzes, or those who keep printing 's in a long line down the left margin in their script, when they print nothing, - no script, - on the line especially just as they sign off, - nobody does that when 'penning' a letter, it is discourteous and very bad practice. Complain rather, about those who top-post, - against the conventions as stated in the original protocols.. When I open a current thread I want the whole debate to be there so that I can read it at once, or recapitulate to understand the thread. It is nonsense elsewise. I can scroll up and down in three seconds, or use Next, - no bother. Any that are chopped up by snippers, when I have not seen the previous opinions, I simply close and move on. And the same for those who ignore the topic under discussion and have nothing to add for the symposium. This page is a typical example I could have answered two letters on alt.music clarinet in the precious time I have wasted here. Have you a gardening topic to discuss, by the way?. Doug. ********************** |
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from "tuin man" contains these words: Here's some even better. That post had four screens of unedited, irrelevent material for readers to scroll through before your one-liner contribution. If you make a habit of that, very few people will bother to open posts from you, and you will effectively be talking only to yourself. Janet Erm.. since when does general information on after care of expensive trees become irrelevant? When we've already had a chance to read it? -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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"Douglas" wrote in message ... "Brian" wrote in message ... I have three or four Acers, all quite small. A fiver each at B&Q's. When they reach medium large size they'll be chucked. I haven't the room. Not to worry I have a few cuttings developing slowly to take their places, - if I survive long enough. But more seriously~ have you really managed to strike cuttings? I had access to every possible means of propagation, but never attempted, as grafting was stated to be the only method possible. Even species were understood to be only possible from seeds. Best Wishes Brian. ****************************** Brian, m'dear chap! . If I have something that's done its biz and outgrown its usefulness I give it away or chuck it!! Anyroad up,- about the cuttings. I am so mooed up in my garden and greenhouses I can't remenber what's what. am also looking after a very sick person so though I do my best my affairs are a bit dodgy just now,. So please bear with me when I say, in the face of your evidence I ask your indulgence for me to withdraw from the cuttings striking forum as I haven;t time to look anything up and I don't want to lead anyone astray when I am not quite sure of my facts. The four Acers are in separate pots on the front patio. I have done a sweep and can't find any other than the larger ones I have. Sorry for any inconvenience caused!. You were absolutely correct to question the veracty of rooting Acer cuttings. Best wishes!. Doug. *****************************. Doug, Thank you. That was a most courtious answer. I hope your patient improves~ I do know what a strain it can be ~ and what a bit of light relief this urg can bring during breaks!!. If only there were flowers 'Computeraceae' I would get to understand them and the related jargon. As it is, I just wonder, after every essay, which lady poster is going to jump at me!! Best wishes and hope all goes well. Brian 'flayb' to respond. |
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from "Douglas" contains these words: "Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message k... The message from Janet Baraclough.. contains If you make a habit of that, very few people will bother to open posts from you, and you will effectively be talking only to yourself. I've stopped bothering already. But you haven't - have you- you've had your say and good luck to you. Yes, he has stopped reading your posts; but he does read mine and was replying to me. Wot's a foobar?.... (Local dialect?). No point asking him questions, he's just told you he doesn't bother opening posts from you. Janet. |
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"Janet Baraclough.." wrote in message ... The message from "Brian" contains these words: If only there were flowers 'Computeraceae' I would get to understand them and the related jargon. As it is, I just wonder, after every essay, which lady poster is going to jump at me!! You should be so lucky :~} Janet. ---------------- We mustn't go on meeting like this! Brian~~using his computer in Stockholm with help from an eight year old! |
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