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Jack In The Thundersley 01-06-2004 10:10 PM

HYpericum~St Johns Wort~ Identification
 
Dear All,
Am a new gardener having inherited a beautiful garden and this
will be the first of many posts i'm sure.
I have a large bush which is tagged Hypericum, is this St Johns Wort or are
there varities of Hypericum? It is a large bush
about 2 metres high and wide.
I assumed StJohns Wort to be a smallish herb? I have some herbs one of which
I thought was StJohns Wort, it has 5 petalled flowers though its stems
branch like a buttercups, it does not have the perforations however like
i've read it should have. The large bush does... can anyone help?

Many Thanks..



Rusty Hinge 01-06-2004 10:20 PM

HYpericum~St Johns Wort~ Identification
 
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Dear All,
Am a new gardener having inherited a beautiful garden and this
will be the first of many posts i'm sure.
I have a large bush which is tagged Hypericum, is this St Johns Wort or are
there varities of Hypericum? It is a large bush
about 2 metres high and wide.
I assumed StJohns Wort to be a smallish herb? I have some herbs one of which
I thought was StJohns Wort, it has 5 petalled flowers though its stems
branch like a buttercups, it does not have the perforations however like
i've read it should have. The large bush does... can anyone help?


Hypericon is the genus. There are several cultivated varieties: the one
you have sounds like H. androsæmum or H. inodorum.

A low ground-covering relative is Rose of Sharon, H. calycinum.

Wild things:

The St. John's wort you have described is H. perforatum, which grows in
clumps of upright stems with small yellow five-petalled star-shaped
flowers. (About 12" - 18")

Also: Beautiful St. John's Wort; Bog St. John's Wort; Creeping St.
John's Wort; Hairy St. John's Wort; Mountain St. John's Wort;
Narrow-leaved St. John's Wort; Square-stalked St. John's Wort; Wavy St.
John's Wort; and a few others which don't seem to have common names, and
one or two more which are hybrids of others.

--
Rusty
There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who read binary and
those who don't.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Brian 01-06-2004 10:26 PM

HYpericum~St Johns Wort~ Identification
 

"Jack In The Thundersley" wrote in message
...
Dear All,
Am a new gardener having inherited a beautiful garden and

this
will be the first of many posts i'm sure.
I have a large bush which is tagged Hypericum, is this St Johns Wort or

are
there varities of Hypericum? It is a large bush
about 2 metres high and wide.
I assumed StJohns Wort to be a smallish herb? I have some herbs one of

which
I thought was StJohns Wort, it has 5 petalled flowers though its stems
branch like a buttercups, it does not have the perforations however like
i've read it should have. The large bush does... can anyone help?

Many Thanks..


Hypericums were known as 'St.John's wort' though the tendency now is to
use the generic name 'Hypericum'. 'St. John's wort' tends to be used for
the smaller and wild species.
Another common name for the large flowered creeping species is 'Rose of
Sharon'[UK only]H.calycinum.
The plant you saw should have had more information on the label but is
quite likely a variety of H. patulum~ 'Hidcote'? Though it's a little early.
Best Wishes Brian.







Emrys Davies 02-06-2004 01:15 AM

HYpericum~St Johns Wort~ Identification
 
As Brian suggested, it is more than probable that you have Hypericum
Hidcote, which is shown on this site:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plant...ages/403.shtml

Regards,
Emrys Davies.





"Brian" wrote in message
...

"Jack In The Thundersley" wrote in

message
...
Dear All,
Am a new gardener having inherited a beautiful garden

and
this
will be the first of many posts i'm sure.
I have a large bush which is tagged Hypericum, is this St Johns Wort

or
are
there varities of Hypericum? It is a large bush
about 2 metres high and wide.
I assumed StJohns Wort to be a smallish herb? I have some herbs one

of
which
I thought was StJohns Wort, it has 5 petalled flowers though its

stems
branch like a buttercups, it does not have the perforations however

like
i've read it should have. The large bush does... can anyone help?

Many Thanks..


Hypericums were known as 'St.John's wort' though the tendency now is

to
use the generic name 'Hypericum'. 'St. John's wort' tends to be used

for
the smaller and wild species.
Another common name for the large flowered creeping species is 'Rose

of
Sharon'[UK only]H.calycinum.
The plant you saw should have had more information on the label but

is
quite likely a variety of H. patulum~ 'Hidcote'? Though it's a little

early.
Best Wishes Brian.









Steve Harris 02-06-2004 01:04 PM

HYpericum~St Johns Wort~ Identification
 
Do the leaves smell?

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com
A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/

Kay Easton 02-06-2004 11:13 PM

HYpericum~St Johns Wort~ Identification
 
In article , Jack In The Thundersley
writes
Dear All,
Am a new gardener having inherited a beautiful garden and this
will be the first of many posts i'm sure.
I have a large bush which is tagged Hypericum, is this St Johns Wort or are
there varities of Hypericum? It is a large bush
about 2 metres high and wide.
I assumed StJohns Wort to be a smallish herb? I have some herbs one of which
I thought was StJohns Wort, it has 5 petalled flowers though its stems
branch like a buttercups, it does not have the perforations however like
i've read it should have. The large bush does... can anyone help?

The botanical (latin) names of plants are assigned to reflect the way we
think they have descended from a common ancestor and indicate
relationships between plants. Hypericum is a genus name - within
Hypericum there are many different species, including Perforate St
John's Wort (H perforatum), Hairy SJW (H hirsutum) and similar small
native species all called St John's Wort. There's also Tutsan (H
androsaemum) which is bushy, and Rose of Sharon (H calycinum) which has
huge flowers ... your bush Hypericum may be one of these two.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Jack In The Thundersley 03-06-2004 07:30 PM

HYpericum~St Johns Wort~ Identification
 
Hallo All

The big bush certainly looks like the one in the picture. Does
this have the hypericum oils like St Johns Wort I wonder. I ask because
apparently you can get dermatitis?.
In answer to Steve Harris questions, yes the leaves do smell, almost a nutty
citrus smell, gorgeous.
Still not sure about the little ones though, the leaves do not smell nor
are they perforated but they pop up all over the garden, out of the
hedgerows and in fence panneling etc. They're not a nuisance as I quite like
them.. I have turned over a large section of my garden for native
wildflowers and though they do not prliferate there amongst the cornflowers
etc I bet that's where the little blighters began.
Am in the process of photographing the garden so one day I can link to
these questions.
Many thanks for your answers and as I said earlier, I'm a newbie and have
hundreds of questions. Am trying to find a horticultural club in this part
of Essex without success...never mind.


"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
...
As Brian suggested, it is more than probable that you have Hypericum
Hidcote, which is shown on this site:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plant...ages/403.shtml

Regards,
Emrys Davies.





"Brian" wrote in message
...

"Jack In The Thundersley" wrote in

message
...
Dear All,
Am a new gardener having inherited a beautiful garden

and
this
will be the first of many posts i'm sure.
I have a large bush which is tagged Hypericum, is this St Johns Wort

or
are
there varities of Hypericum? It is a large bush
about 2 metres high and wide.
I assumed StJohns Wort to be a smallish herb? I have some herbs one

of
which
I thought was StJohns Wort, it has 5 petalled flowers though its

stems
branch like a buttercups, it does not have the perforations however

like
i've read it should have. The large bush does... can anyone help?

Many Thanks..


Hypericums were known as 'St.John's wort' though the tendency now is

to
use the generic name 'Hypericum'. 'St. John's wort' tends to be used

for
the smaller and wild species.
Another common name for the large flowered creeping species is 'Rose

of
Sharon'[UK only]H.calycinum.
The plant you saw should have had more information on the label but

is
quite likely a variety of H. patulum~ 'Hidcote'? Though it's a little

early.
Best Wishes Brian.











Brian 03-06-2004 07:33 PM

HYpericum~St Johns Wort~ Identification
 

"Steve Harris" wrote in message
...
Do the leaves smell?


__________
Only if they have noses! It's a funny old language~~ we seem to lack a
suitable verb.
Best Wishes Brian




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