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What happens to cress (I assume this is land cress - the stuff you get in
packs for kiddies, or adults who love it like me, to grow) if you plant it
on kitchen towels and leave it, without cutting it to eat ? I ask because I
have a soil pot that I am considering putting cress / mustard mix in, for
the kitchen windowsill all year round. However, the soil pot isn't one I can
drag up and start again with if it goes wrong so I can't really try it and
see without some idea of how it will grow (a family pet is buried inside,
only a small one so don't freak out !)
Will cress and or mustard just keep growing and evenutally go to seed - and
if so, what does it look like - tall, short, bushy, can you eat all of it ?
I've always planted it on wet tissue and cut it about ten days later but
sooner or later they gotta seed, right ?

I always do this with my little companion animals, btw (have been for the
last ten years) - they make herbs grow great and this way the little
sweeties don't get dug up by foxes and they remain beautiful even after they
die (yes, I am sentimental and I love my animals). I've just not done cress
in this way before.

Any ideas ?


Rachael


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Old 21-07-2004, 09:15 PM
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"Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat" wrote in message ...
What happens to cress (I assume this is land cress - the stuff you get in
packs for kiddies, or adults who love it like me, to grow) if you plant it
on kitchen towels and leave it, without cutting it to eat ? I ask because I
have a soil pot that I am considering putting cress / mustard mix in, for
the kitchen windowsill all year round. However, the soil pot isn't one I can
drag up and start again with if it goes wrong so I can't really try it and
see without some idea of how it will grow (a family pet is buried inside,
only a small one so don't freak out !)
Will cress and or mustard just keep growing and evenutally go to seed - and
if so, what does it look like - tall, short, bushy, can you eat all of it ?
I've always planted it on wet tissue and cut it about ten days later but
sooner or later they gotta seed, right ?

I always do this with my little companion animals, btw (have been for the
last ten years) - they make herbs grow great and this way the little
sweeties don't get dug up by foxes and they remain beautiful even after they
die (yes, I am sentimental and I love my animals). I've just not done cress
in this way before.

Any ideas ?

I don't think (but I could easily be wrong) what we grow as cress is
'land cress'/'American cress', which is like a dry-land kind of
watercress; so I don't know what it ends up like. Mustard, though,
(and rape, which is what you often get under the name of 'mustard')
will get leggy and rather hot-tasting: quite unlike the little sprouts
we put in sandwiches. I'd surmise that cress will do much the same,
and neither will be very succulent. But if the blotting-paper cress
really is the same as land-cress, it'll get hot and dry, too, unless
you keep plucking the young leaves. Once they've gone to seed, the
story will be over. More a fun thing than a really viable vegetable
option on the windowsill, I'd say. But I'm all for fun.

Your pet funeral habits sound ideal for that difficult herb, basil; at
least according to Keats, if you fancy a grisly poem at bed-time (not
for the children, I hasten to add). But Keats was more a boxer than a
gardener, so he may have misled me!

Mike.
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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
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"Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat" wrote in message

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What happens to cress (I assume this is land cress - the stuff you get

in
packs for kiddies, or adults who love it like me, to grow) if you plant

it
on kitchen towels and leave it, without cutting it to eat ? I ask

because I
have a soil pot that I am considering putting cress / mustard mix in,

for
the kitchen windowsill all year round. However, the soil pot isn't one I

can
drag up and start again with if it goes wrong so I can't really try it

and
see without some idea of how it will grow (a family pet is buried

inside,
only a small one so don't freak out !)
Will cress and or mustard just keep growing and evenutally go to seed -

and
if so, what does it look like - tall, short, bushy, can you eat all of

it ?
I've always planted it on wet tissue and cut it about ten days later but
sooner or later they gotta seed, right ?

I always do this with my little companion animals, btw (have been for

the
last ten years) - they make herbs grow great and this way the little
sweeties don't get dug up by foxes and they remain beautiful even after

they
die (yes, I am sentimental and I love my animals). I've just not done

cress
in this way before.

Any ideas ?

I don't think (but I could easily be wrong) what we grow as cress is
'land cress'/'American cress', which is like a dry-land kind of
watercress; so I don't know what it ends up like.


It's odd but I have been trying to figure out what cress, as in cress wot we
get in packet, really is - but poking about on the net doesn't seem to
reveal much. I assumed it was land cress but shrug other than that I
didn't find anything that might fit the description cos I didn't think it
was water cress proper - I coudl find no "real name" as such. What I'd like
is a picture and a big label next to it saying "This ---- is the stuff." ;-)

Mustard, though,
(and rape, which is what you often get under the name of 'mustard')
will get leggy and rather hot-tasting: quite unlike the little sprouts
we put in sandwiches. I'd surmise that cress will do much the same,
and neither will be very succulent. But if the blotting-paper cress
really is the same as land-cress, it'll get hot and dry, too, unless
you keep plucking the young leaves. Once they've gone to seed, the
story will be over.


I'd be interested to see what cress seeds actually look like on the plant.
Never seen 'em other than in the packet !

More a fun thing than a really viable vegetable
option on the windowsill, I'd say. But I'm all for fun.


I'l give it a go then - can't hurt. I like cress and mustard alot ! I
suspect any roots such a plant would put down would be fairly small and
possibly die off pretty quick on their own (thus leaving the pot free for
something else at a later date.)

Your pet funeral habits sound ideal for that difficult herb, basil; at
least according to Keats, if you fancy a grisly poem at bed-time (not
for the children, I hasten to add). But Keats was more a boxer than a
gardener, so he may have misled me!

I don't know the poem myself but I do know that I have basil (and Thai
basil) growing as if it were going out of fashion in my ratty pots, and have
had for the last few years. Ditto lemon balm, lavender, and parsley. More
parsley than I know what to do with as it goes. Parsely sauce anyone ? ;-)



Rachael


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Old 21-07-2004, 09:15 PM
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On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:00:54 +0100, "Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat"
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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
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"Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat" wrote in message

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Your pet funeral habits sound ideal for that difficult herb, basil; at
least according to Keats, if you fancy a grisly poem at bed-time (not
for the children, I hasten to add). But Keats was more a boxer than a
gardener, so he may have misled me!

I don't know the poem myself but I do know that I have basil (and Thai
basil) growing as if it were going out of fashion in my ratty pots, and have
had for the last few years. Ditto lemon balm, lavender, and parsley. More
parsley than I know what to do with as it goes. Parsely sauce anyone ? ;-)



Isabella, or The Pot of Basil. Not for the squeamish!


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Old 21-07-2004, 09:15 PM
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In article , Mike Lyle
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I don't think (but I could easily be wrong) what we grow as cress is
'land cress'/'American cress', which is like a dry-land kind of
watercress;


You're right that land cress isn't the same as the mustard and cress
cress.


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Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"



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Old 21-07-2004, 09:16 PM
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In article , Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan
Rat writes
I'd be interested to see what cress seeds actually look like on the plant.
Never seen 'em other than in the packet !


Probably in a seed pod, most likely long like a very miniature green
carrot, based on what other crucifers are like.

It's Lepidum sativum, btw, according to a Google search. Landcress
appears to be Barbarea vulgaris.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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Old 21-07-2004, 09:17 PM
Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat
 
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"Kay" wrote in message
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In article , Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan
Rat writes
I'd be interested to see what cress seeds actually look like on the

plant.
Never seen 'em other than in the packet !


Probably in a seed pod, most likely long like a very miniature green
carrot, based on what other crucifers are like.


Interesting.

It's Lepidum sativum, btw, according to a Google search. Landcress
appears to be Barbarea vulgaris.



Ah, right. I'll search that out then, ta.


Rachael


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"Sally Thompson" wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:00:54 +0100, "Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat"
wrote:


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
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"Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat" wrote in message

...

snip


Your pet funeral habits sound ideal for that difficult herb, basil; at
least according to Keats, if you fancy a grisly poem at bed-time (not
for the children, I hasten to add). But Keats was more a boxer than a
gardener, so he may have misled me!

I don't know the poem myself but I do know that I have basil (and Thai
basil) growing as if it were going out of fashion in my ratty pots, and

have
had for the last few years. Ditto lemon balm, lavender, and parsley. More
parsley than I know what to do with as it goes. Parsely sauce anyone ?

;-)


Isabella, or The Pot of Basil. Not for the squeamish!


quick look on google

Oh - I think it's more sad than grisly. But then again I've seen and had to
bury many many dead rats who I loved dearly over the last ten years so dead
things don't spook me or turn my eyes (I'd have to draw the line at cutting
any of their heads off though !) To say nothing of some of the messes said
rats made of themselves and each other when they were alive.


Poor old Lorenzo !



Rachael


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Old 21-07-2004, 09:36 PM
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Kay wrote in message ...
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appears to be Barbarea vulgaris.


Ah, good old Barbara the Vulgar! Those were the days, eh? She was very
popular when I was a student.

Mike.
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Old 21-07-2004, 09:41 PM
Pam Moore
 
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As I understand it, the "cress" you buy in punnets frome the
greengrocer's is not cress but mustard.
When I used to grow it you bought a packet of each and sowed the
cress a few days before the mustard because the latter germinates more
quickly.
Mustard seeds are pale and round. Cress seeds are a conker colour and
smaller. When they get wet they develop a slimy coating.
I have never grown cress beyond the seedling stage to see what
develops.


Pam in Bristol


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Old 21-07-2004, 10:17 PM
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"Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat" wrote in message ...
What happens to cress (I assume this is land cress - the stuff you get in
packs for kiddies, or adults who love it like me, to grow) if you plant it
on kitchen towels and leave it, without cutting it to eat ? I ask because I
have a soil pot that I am considering putting cress / mustard mix in, for
the kitchen windowsill all year round. However, the soil pot isn't one I can
drag up and start again with if it goes wrong so I can't really try it and
see without some idea of how it will grow (a family pet is buried inside,
only a small one so don't freak out !)
Will cress and or mustard just keep growing and evenutally go to seed - and
if so, what does it look like - tall, short, bushy, can you eat all of it ?
I've always planted it on wet tissue and cut it about ten days later but
sooner or later they gotta seed, right ?

I always do this with my little companion animals, btw (have been for the
last ten years) - they make herbs grow great and this way the little
sweeties don't get dug up by foxes and they remain beautiful even after they
die (yes, I am sentimental and I love my animals). I've just not done cress
in this way before.

Any ideas ?

I don't think (but I could easily be wrong) what we grow as cress is
'land cress'/'American cress', which is like a dry-land kind of
watercress; so I don't know what it ends up like. Mustard, though,
(and rape, which is what you often get under the name of 'mustard')
will get leggy and rather hot-tasting: quite unlike the little sprouts
we put in sandwiches. I'd surmise that cress will do much the same,
and neither will be very succulent. But if the blotting-paper cress
really is the same as land-cress, it'll get hot and dry, too, unless
you keep plucking the young leaves. Once they've gone to seed, the
story will be over. More a fun thing than a really viable vegetable
option on the windowsill, I'd say. But I'm all for fun.

Your pet funeral habits sound ideal for that difficult herb, basil; at
least according to Keats, if you fancy a grisly poem at bed-time (not
for the children, I hasten to add). But Keats was more a boxer than a
gardener, so he may have misled me!

Mike.
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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat" wrote in message

...
What happens to cress (I assume this is land cress - the stuff you get

in
packs for kiddies, or adults who love it like me, to grow) if you plant

it
on kitchen towels and leave it, without cutting it to eat ? I ask

because I
have a soil pot that I am considering putting cress / mustard mix in,

for
the kitchen windowsill all year round. However, the soil pot isn't one I

can
drag up and start again with if it goes wrong so I can't really try it

and
see without some idea of how it will grow (a family pet is buried

inside,
only a small one so don't freak out !)
Will cress and or mustard just keep growing and evenutally go to seed -

and
if so, what does it look like - tall, short, bushy, can you eat all of

it ?
I've always planted it on wet tissue and cut it about ten days later but
sooner or later they gotta seed, right ?

I always do this with my little companion animals, btw (have been for

the
last ten years) - they make herbs grow great and this way the little
sweeties don't get dug up by foxes and they remain beautiful even after

they
die (yes, I am sentimental and I love my animals). I've just not done

cress
in this way before.

Any ideas ?

I don't think (but I could easily be wrong) what we grow as cress is
'land cress'/'American cress', which is like a dry-land kind of
watercress; so I don't know what it ends up like.


It's odd but I have been trying to figure out what cress, as in cress wot we
get in packet, really is - but poking about on the net doesn't seem to
reveal much. I assumed it was land cress but shrug other than that I
didn't find anything that might fit the description cos I didn't think it
was water cress proper - I coudl find no "real name" as such. What I'd like
is a picture and a big label next to it saying "This ---- is the stuff." ;-)

Mustard, though,
(and rape, which is what you often get under the name of 'mustard')
will get leggy and rather hot-tasting: quite unlike the little sprouts
we put in sandwiches. I'd surmise that cress will do much the same,
and neither will be very succulent. But if the blotting-paper cress
really is the same as land-cress, it'll get hot and dry, too, unless
you keep plucking the young leaves. Once they've gone to seed, the
story will be over.


I'd be interested to see what cress seeds actually look like on the plant.
Never seen 'em other than in the packet !

More a fun thing than a really viable vegetable
option on the windowsill, I'd say. But I'm all for fun.


I'l give it a go then - can't hurt. I like cress and mustard alot ! I
suspect any roots such a plant would put down would be fairly small and
possibly die off pretty quick on their own (thus leaving the pot free for
something else at a later date.)

Your pet funeral habits sound ideal for that difficult herb, basil; at
least according to Keats, if you fancy a grisly poem at bed-time (not
for the children, I hasten to add). But Keats was more a boxer than a
gardener, so he may have misled me!

I don't know the poem myself but I do know that I have basil (and Thai
basil) growing as if it were going out of fashion in my ratty pots, and have
had for the last few years. Ditto lemon balm, lavender, and parsley. More
parsley than I know what to do with as it goes. Parsely sauce anyone ? ;-)



Rachael


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On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:00:54 +0100, "Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat"
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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
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"Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat" wrote in message

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Your pet funeral habits sound ideal for that difficult herb, basil; at
least according to Keats, if you fancy a grisly poem at bed-time (not
for the children, I hasten to add). But Keats was more a boxer than a
gardener, so he may have misled me!

I don't know the poem myself but I do know that I have basil (and Thai
basil) growing as if it were going out of fashion in my ratty pots, and have
had for the last few years. Ditto lemon balm, lavender, and parsley. More
parsley than I know what to do with as it goes. Parsely sauce anyone ? ;-)



Isabella, or The Pot of Basil. Not for the squeamish!


--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
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In article , Mike Lyle
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I don't think (but I could easily be wrong) what we grow as cress is
'land cress'/'American cress', which is like a dry-land kind of
watercress;


You're right that land cress isn't the same as the mustard and cress
cress.


--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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In article , Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan
Rat writes
I'd be interested to see what cress seeds actually look like on the plant.
Never seen 'em other than in the packet !


Probably in a seed pod, most likely long like a very miniature green
carrot, based on what other crucifers are like.

It's Lepidum sativum, btw, according to a Google search. Landcress
appears to be Barbarea vulgaris.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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