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Old 22-08-2004, 03:53 PM
Bob Hobden
 
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Yesterday I managed to see some of the newer, mainly US bred, varieties of
hardy water lily and was knocked out by their colour, beauty and habit.
If you are thinking of making a pond or want a new lily for an existing pond
my I suggest you ignore the usual Aquatic Centre in the Garden Centre that
have only the older varieties of mainly French bred lilies and search out a
specialist grower.
Names to look for are....
Barbara Dobbins
Peaches and Cream
Peach Glow
and those are just some of the beautiful peach coloured ones, all of which
carry their blooms above the water like the tropical lilies, and most have
good fragrance.

I might add, the best time to buy and install a new lily is in May.

--
Regards
Bob
in Runnymede, 17miles west of London, UK







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Old 23-08-2004, 11:40 AM
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Hi Bob

Very timely bit of advice that. Husband and I went a wandering to our local
garden centre yesterday, to get some ideas for a new pond (last one was
removed many years ago when daughter was at that vulnerable age). Needless
to say we have now forgotten most of what we knew. Any suggestions where we
should look to find the ones you suggest. (we are in Derbyshire) Grateful
for any advice. Also extremely useful to know that May is the best time to
plant lilies.

Kathie S
Bob Hobden wrote in message ...
Yesterday I managed to see some of the newer, mainly US bred, varieties of
hardy water lily and was knocked out by their colour, beauty and habit.
If you are thinking of making a pond or want a new lily for an existing

pond
my I suggest you ignore the usual Aquatic Centre in the Garden Centre that
have only the older varieties of mainly French bred lilies and search out a
specialist grower.
Names to look for are....
Barbara Dobbins
Peaches and Cream
Peach Glow
and those are just some of the beautiful peach coloured ones, all of which
carry their blooms above the water like the tropical lilies, and most have
good fragrance.

I might add, the best time to buy and install a new lily is in May.

--
Regards
Bob
in Runnymede, 17miles west of London, UK









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Old 23-08-2004, 01:33 PM
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"kathleen syson" wrote after I wrote
Yesterday I managed to see some of the newer, mainly US bred, varieties

of
hardy water lily and was knocked out by their colour, beauty and habit.
If you are thinking of making a pond or want a new lily for an existing

pond
my I suggest you ignore the usual Aquatic Centre in the Garden Centre

that
have only the older varieties of mainly French bred lilies and search out

a
specialist grower.
Names to look for are....
Barbara Dobbins
Peaches and Cream
Peach Glow
and those are just some of the beautiful peach coloured ones, all of

which
carry their blooms above the water like the tropical lilies, and most

have
good fragrance.

I might add, the best time to buy and install a new lily is in May.

Very timely bit of advice that. Husband and I went a wandering to our

local
garden centre yesterday, to get some ideas for a new pond (last one was
removed many years ago when daughter was at that vulnerable age).

Needless
to say we have now forgotten most of what we knew. Any suggestions where

we
should look to find the ones you suggest. (we are in Derbyshire) Grateful
for any advice. Also extremely useful to know that May is the best time

to
plant lilies.


May is the best time to plant/move any of the water plants, they should be
in good growth when disturbed (unlike normal perennials) because they are in
a medium which is going to cause rot at the slightest opportunity.
It's also a good time to get new fish, as, like the plants, it gives them
the most time to establish before the long British winter.

I saw my new plant (Peach Glow) at..
Lilies Water Garden, Broad Lane, Newdigate, Surrey, RH5 5AT. Tel:-01306
631064 . I read somewhere they have about 90 varieties of water plants but
don't quote me on it. :-)
They may well deliver to, or supply, somewhere near you.

There is also the following but I don't know what stock they have because
their web site doesn't work properly ! ....
Dorset Water Lily Co, Yeovil Road, Halstock, Yeovil, Somerset. BA22 9RR. Tel
:-01953 891668 www.dorse****erlily.co.uk/

Neither are near you I'm afraid but they might know who can supply you if
you phone, however, that doesn't give you the opportunity to look at the
flowers before purchase. If you find out what stock they have then you could
check out pictures on an US lily nursery site (Google search?).
--
Regards
Bob
in Runnymede, 17miles west of London, UK








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Old 23-08-2004, 01:48 PM
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Has anyone ever told you how wonderful you are!

We'll certainly take all your suggestions on board.

Did think that Dorset in Somerset sounded a bit odd; but will still look.

Very many thanks

Kathie S
Bob Hobden wrote in message ...

"kathleen syson" wrote after I wrote
Yesterday I managed to see some of the newer, mainly US bred, varieties

of
hardy water lily and was knocked out by their colour, beauty and habit.
If you are thinking of making a pond or want a new lily for an existing

pond
my I suggest you ignore the usual Aquatic Centre in the Garden Centre

that
have only the older varieties of mainly French bred lilies and search

out
a
specialist grower.
Names to look for are....
Barbara Dobbins
Peaches and Cream
Peach Glow
and those are just some of the beautiful peach coloured ones, all of

which
carry their blooms above the water like the tropical lilies, and most

have
good fragrance.

I might add, the best time to buy and install a new lily is in May.

Very timely bit of advice that. Husband and I went a wandering to our

local
garden centre yesterday, to get some ideas for a new pond (last one was
removed many years ago when daughter was at that vulnerable age).

Needless
to say we have now forgotten most of what we knew. Any suggestions where

we
should look to find the ones you suggest. (we are in Derbyshire)

Grateful
for any advice. Also extremely useful to know that May is the best time

to
plant lilies.


May is the best time to plant/move any of the water plants, they should be
in good growth when disturbed (unlike normal perennials) because they are

in
a medium which is going to cause rot at the slightest opportunity.
It's also a good time to get new fish, as, like the plants, it gives them
the most time to establish before the long British winter.

I saw my new plant (Peach Glow) at..
Lilies Water Garden, Broad Lane, Newdigate, Surrey, RH5 5AT. Tel:-01306
631064 . I read somewhere they have about 90 varieties of water plants but
don't quote me on it. :-)
They may well deliver to, or supply, somewhere near you.

There is also the following but I don't know what stock they have because
their web site doesn't work properly ! ....
Dorset Water Lily Co, Yeovil Road, Halstock, Yeovil, Somerset. BA22 9RR.

Tel
:-01953 891668 www.dorse****erlily.co.uk/

Neither are near you I'm afraid but they might know who can supply you if
you phone, however, that doesn't give you the opportunity to look at the
flowers before purchase. If you find out what stock they have then you

could
check out pictures on an US lily nursery site (Google search?).
--
Regards
Bob
in Runnymede, 17miles west of London, UK










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I've had a thing about collecting hardy water lilies a few years, and had the joy of struggling with them in England as well as North Carolina, where Summer and Winter is far more brutal than England

I'd have to say there are many old hybrids which are every bit as spectacular as trendy new ones... Lucida, James Brydon, Gonnere come to mind... When you gether a few good sources you will soon start to find out, there are maybe 200 plus really outstanding hardies to choose between, then there are hundreds others as well, perhaps with slightly less desireable features.... shy bloomers (eg Pygmaea Rubra) aggresive growing habit (eg Colorado)

Anyways, in the quest to tinker with the more interesting varieties, I try to collect the best examples according to my own quirky criterion and what opportunity brings

Eg Red, Pink, Yellow, White, Changeable... Small medium Large... Seed parent, pollen parent... I don't want to collect them all, just put the best collection together that can be mustered and 'have a go' at raising new varieties (three or four this Summer so far)

Anyways, the photographs of many of these have been put together in a webshots folder, so if anyone wants to get 'some idea' of what hardy waterlilies 'can do' there are 50 or so photos in the two hardy water lily folders which just might make for a useful starting point

Now while you might think, oh, this can't be done in England, well, yes it can, though in England you have maybe not quite so long or as hot a Summer. When you get one of those prolonged warm Summer spells, hardies 'fire up' such a spectacular show in temperate zones, haing stacked up buds waiting to be ignited... this is something you don't quite get where the heat is brutal, but the hardies are doing one's and two's and three's of blooms all Summer long

Hardy waterlily folders at webshots:
http://community.webshots.com/user/adavisus

Regards, andy
http://www.members.aol.com/abdavisnc/swglist.html


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Janet Baraclough.. muttered:

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Now while you might think, oh, this can't be done in England, well, yes
it can, though in England you have maybe not quite so long or as hot a
Summer. When you get one of those prolonged warm Summer spells,


gnashing of teeth :-)

Janet

I've got 2 Attraction water lilies flowers on my pond right now, and it's
only 16 C outside... )

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