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Sacha 10-09-2004 08:37 AM

?? African plant
 
I'm currently reading a book in which a 'flamboyant tree' is mentioned (as a
name, not a description) and bush tea. Please can anyone tell me what
either of these are?
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Nick Maclaren 10-09-2004 09:03 AM

In article ,
Sacha wrote:
I'm currently reading a book in which a 'flamboyant tree' is mentioned (as a
name, not a description) and bush tea. Please can anyone tell me what
either of these are?


Poinciana regia. I did once hear the latter, but have forgotten.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sacha 10-09-2004 09:16 AM

On 10/9/04 9:03, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:

In article ,
Sacha wrote:
I'm currently reading a book in which a 'flamboyant tree' is mentioned (as a
name, not a description) and bush tea. Please can anyone tell me what
either of these are?


Poinciana regia. I did once hear the latter, but have forgotten.


Thanks, Nick. I did a Google image search on it and it's a gorgeous thing
and well named in terms of flamboyance!
The only think I can think of tea wise is Rootbusch tea (sp?) which I saw in
South Africa and which is now very popular here. The book(s) are set in
Botswana so I imagine the same kind of plant would be used for tea there.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Pam Moore 10-09-2004 09:23 AM

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:37:00 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I'm currently reading a book in which a 'flamboyant tree' is mentioned (as a
name, not a description) and bush tea. Please can anyone tell me what
either of these are?


Bush tea is I think Roi-bosch (sp?) which means red bush in Afrikaans
(sp) My South African friend drinks it.
If my spelling is wrong perhaps it was a typo!

Pam in Bristol

Nick Maclaren 10-09-2004 09:36 AM


In article ,
Pam Moore writes:
|
| Bush tea is I think Roi-bosch (sp?) which means red bush in Afrikaans
| (sp) My South African friend drinks it.
| If my spelling is wrong perhaps it was a typo!

Rooibos. As in rooinek. A.k.a. rozelle, a.k.a. Hibiscus
sabdariffa. No, that's not bush tea.

I have failed to grow rozelle and okra in a polytunnel - the
former didn't germinate, and the latter dropped leaves every
time the temperature dropped.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sacha 10-09-2004 09:42 AM

On 10/9/04 9:23, in article , "Pam
Moore" wrote:

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:37:00 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I'm currently reading a book in which a 'flamboyant tree' is mentioned (as a
name, not a description) and bush tea. Please can anyone tell me what
either of these are?


Bush tea is I think Roi-bosch (sp?) which means red bush in Afrikaans
(sp) My South African friend drinks it.
If my spelling is wrong perhaps it was a typo!

Thanks, Pam. I thought that was bush tea but Nick thinks not. Any day now,
I'll have to write to the author! The books are The First Ladies Detective
Agency, BTW. Enchanting!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Charlie Pridham 10-09-2004 11:12 AM


"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
On 10/9/04 9:03, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:

In article ,
Sacha wrote:
I'm currently reading a book in which a 'flamboyant tree' is mentioned

(as a
name, not a description) and bush tea. Please can anyone tell me what
either of these are?


Poinciana regia. I did once hear the latter, but have forgotten.


Thanks, Nick. I did a Google image search on it and it's a gorgeous thing
and well named in terms of flamboyance!
The only think I can think of tea wise is Rootbusch tea (sp?) which I saw

in
South Africa and which is now very popular here. The book(s) are set in
Botswana so I imagine the same kind of plant would be used for tea there.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

What about Leptospermum? they sometimes get called tea bushes or trees down
here (don't ask me why as they look nothing like a camellia!)

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Nick Maclaren 10-09-2004 11:26 AM


In article ,
"Charlie Pridham" writes:
|
| I'm currently reading a book in which a 'flamboyant tree' is mentioned
| (as a
| name, not a description) and bush tea. Please can anyone tell me what
| either of these are?
|
| Poinciana regia. I did once hear the latter, but have forgotten.
|
| Thanks, Nick. I did a Google image search on it and it's a gorgeous thing
| and well named in terms of flamboyance!
| The only think I can think of tea wise is Rootbusch tea (sp?) which I saw
| in
| South Africa and which is now very popular here. The book(s) are set in
| Botswana so I imagine the same kind of plant would be used for tea there.
|
| What about Leptospermum? they sometimes get called tea bushes or trees down
| here (don't ask me why as they look nothing like a camellia!)

'Ti' tree, I think.

No, it's not that. I recognise the reference, and it is a bush
whose leaves are used like mate.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Pam Moore 10-09-2004 03:18 PM

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:42:41 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

Thanks, Pam. I thought that was bush tea but Nick thinks not. Any day now,
I'll have to write to the author! The books are The First Ladies Detective
Agency, BTW. Enchanting!


I will check with my SA friend tonight. I think it was she who
mentioned those books to me.

Pam in Bristol

Nick Maclaren 10-09-2004 03:51 PM


In article ,
Pam Moore writes:
| On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:42:41 +0100, Sacha
| wrote:
|
| Thanks, Pam. I thought that was bush tea but Nick thinks not. Any day now,
| I'll have to write to the author! The books are The First Ladies Detective
| Agency, BTW. Enchanting!
|
| I will check with my SA friend tonight. I think it was she who
| mentioned those books to me.

Ah. The reference I saw was to Kenya, so there is no guarantee
it is the same plant.

Also, a quick search indicates that I may have got confused.
Hibiscus sabdariffa is certainly rozelle, and is certainly
drunk as an infusion, but DOESN'T seem to be rooibos. I.e.
the bush tea you are referring to may well be rooibos, which
is Aspalathus Linearis. See:

http://members.tripod.com/~Meerkat_2/erooibos.html


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sacha 10-09-2004 06:29 PM

On 10/9/04 15:51, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:

snip
the bush tea you are referring to may well be rooibos, which
is Aspalathus Linearis. See:

http://members.tripod.com/~Meerkat_2/erooibos.html

Yes, it is rooibos. I've just heard back from the friend who has just left
Gaborone. He says it tastes a little of honey.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Sacha 10-09-2004 09:13 PM

On 10/9/04 10:43, in article ,
"Janet Baraclough.." wrote:

The message
from Sacha contains these words:

The books are The First Ladies Detective
Agency, BTW. Enchanting!


Serialised on BBC Radio 4 atm, Sacha


Thank you for that. I thought it was going to be televised but now I'll
look out for the Radio programme. Unhappily, we get awful R4 reception in
the house, so I usually have to listen to it in the car - which makes me
hope it's not on at 10pm or something!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Pam Moore 10-09-2004 09:31 PM

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:37:00 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I'm currently reading a book in which a 'flamboyant tree' is mentioned (as a
name, not a description) and bush tea. Please can anyone tell me what
either of these are?


Sacha, my SA friend confirms that bush tea is Rooibos (red bush). I
have tried it but would not drink it from choice.

Pam in Bristol

Sacha 10-09-2004 09:58 PM

On 10/9/04 21:31, in article ,
"Pam Moore" wrote:

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:37:00 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I'm currently reading a book in which a 'flamboyant tree' is mentioned (as a
name, not a description) and bush tea. Please can anyone tell me what
either of these are?


Sacha, my SA friend confirms that bush tea is Rooibos (red bush). I
have tried it but would not drink it from choice.

I'll let you know. ;-) And thank you.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


cross 11-09-2004 12:08 PM



Sacha, my SA friend confirms that bush tea is Rooibos (red bush). I
have tried it but would not drink it from choice.

I'll let you know. ;-) And thank you.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

---------------
Rooibos tea is readily available in health shops. I have some as loose tea
and as tea-bags.

I would say it is an aquired taste, but not at all bad ;-). It is
recommended as a slight sedative, so good for promoting sleep.

Marina
E. Sx



Chris Hogg 11-09-2004 09:37 PM

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:37:00 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I'm currently reading a book in which a 'flamboyant tree' is mentioned (as a
name, not a description) and bush tea. Please can anyone tell me what
either of these are?


AIUI, they make tea from at least two types of bush in SA. Rooibos
(Aspalanthus linearis) has already been mentioned, but they also use
Honeybush (Cyclopia species). See http://www.rooibos.ch/honeybush.html

The former has a slightly spicy taste, the latter is sweeter and
tastes more of honey. I prefer the latter. We have a relation in SA
who regularly sends us tea bags and we drink it regularly.


--
Chris

E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net

David Hill 11-09-2004 10:01 PM

Sacha

The First Ladies Detective Agency,


It is on Fridays as the afternoon play, This link will let you hear it on
line.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/drama.shtml?afternoonplay"

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk





Sacha 11-09-2004 10:39 PM

On 11/9/04 22:01, in article , "David Hill"
wrote:

Sacha

The First Ladies Detective Agency,


It is on Fridays as the afternoon play, This link will let you hear it on
line.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/drama.shtml?afternoonplay"


Thanks, David. A few people have posted or emailed me that link. All I
have to do now is figure out how to get my computer to let me listen to
it.... Big sigh!
--

Sacha


Sacha 11-09-2004 10:42 PM

On 11/9/04 21:37, in article ,
"Chris Hogg" wrote:

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:37:00 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

I'm currently reading a book in which a 'flamboyant tree' is mentioned (as a
name, not a description) and bush tea. Please can anyone tell me what
either of these are?


AIUI, they make tea from at least two types of bush in SA. Rooibos
(Aspalanthus linearis) has already been mentioned, but they also use
Honeybush (Cyclopia species). See
http://www.rooibos.ch/honeybush.html

The former has a slightly spicy taste, the latter is sweeter and
tastes more of honey. I prefer the latter. We have a relation in SA
who regularly sends us tea bags and we drink it regularly.

That's interesting because from what you say Aspalanthus is the Rooibos but
the person I know who lived in Gaborone says bush tea tastes of honey. I
wonder if bush tea has become a term to cover two types of tea giving shrub.
A number of years ago in Turkey, I drank something in Kalkan called Adasi
Chay (sp?) which means island tea. It was delicious but I've never been
able to find out what it's made from and no other parts of Turkey I've
sailed in seem to know it.
--

Sacha


Franz Heymann 18-09-2004 03:29 PM


"cross" wrote in message
...


Sacha, my SA friend confirms that bush tea is Rooibos (red

bush). I
have tried it but would not drink it from choice.


There are actually two different shrubs commonly used for making "tea"
in SA. Rooibos (Red bush) and Heuningbos (Honey bush). I am an
afficionado of the former. It is strongly astringent and is enjoyed
only after the intending drinker has undergone a suitable induction
period. The correct way to make it is to dedicate a stainless steel
teapot to it in perpetuity. The pot is topped up with water when it
runs dry and with leaves when the tea becomes too weak. It is removed
for cleaning only when it is so clogged with leaves and twigs that it
no longer holds enough water. Just bring the whole caboosh to the
boil when you want a cuppa.

Franz



Sacha 18-09-2004 05:28 PM

On 18/9/04 15:29, in article , "Franz
Heymann" wrote:

snip

There are actually two different shrubs commonly used for making "tea"
in SA. Rooibos (Red bush) and Heuningbos (Honey bush). I am an
afficionado of the former. It is strongly astringent and is enjoyed
only after the intending drinker has undergone a suitable induction
period. The correct way to make it is to dedicate a stainless steel
teapot to it in perpetuity. The pot is topped up with water when it
runs dry and with leaves when the tea becomes too weak. It is removed
for cleaning only when it is so clogged with leaves and twigs that it
no longer holds enough water. Just bring the whole caboosh to the
boil when you want a cuppa.

I think this is a recipe that might not find its way into my files! But
thanks, Franz!
--

Sacha


Franz Heymann 18-09-2004 08:56 PM


"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
On 18/9/04 15:29, in article ,

"Franz
Heymann" wrote:

snip

There are actually two different shrubs commonly used for making

"tea"
in SA. Rooibos (Red bush) and Heuningbos (Honey bush). I am an
afficionado of the former. It is strongly astringent and is

enjoyed
only after the intending drinker has undergone a suitable

induction
period. The correct way to make it is to dedicate a stainless

steel
teapot to it in perpetuity. The pot is topped up with water when

it
runs dry and with leaves when the tea becomes too weak. It is

removed
for cleaning only when it is so clogged with leaves and twigs that

it
no longer holds enough water. Just bring the whole caboosh to the
boil when you want a cuppa.

I think this is a recipe that might not find its way into my files!

But
thanks, Franz!


I did say, in other words, that liking it is an acquired taste.
{:-))

Franz




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