|
Shaggy ink caps
I have some coming up in one of my tyre pots, and I believe they're edible.
Does anyone know how to cook/prepare them at all? Thanks Andy http://greencottage.burysolarclub.net |
"Andy Hunt" wrote:
I have some coming up in one of my tyre pots, and I believe they're edible. Does anyone know how to cook/prepare them at all? IF they're the same ones that grow in the U.S., just sautee briefly in a little olive oil, garlic/onions to taste. They don't keep long, going inky and mushy quickly. Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G |
In article ,
Gary Woods wrote: "Andy Hunt" wrote: I have some coming up in one of my tyre pots, and I believe they're edible. Does anyone know how to cook/prepare them at all? IF they're the same ones that grow in the U.S., just sautee briefly in a little olive oil, garlic/onions to taste. They don't keep long, going inky and mushy quickly. And don't drink alcohol when eating them. Seriously. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
The message
from "Andy Hunt" contains these words: I have some coming up in one of my tyre pots, and I believe they're edible. Does anyone know how to cook/prepare them at all? Delicious - but discard any bits on which the gills are darker than a pale pink. Wash, then halve the mushrooms and their stalks and fry in butter or olive oil. (Most of a mushroom's flavour is oil-soluble.) With the remainder of the fat and juices, make a roux, then (over heat!) add white wine and a scrape of nutmeg until you have made a sauce. Serving suggestion: On hot buttered toast, and covered in sauce. Or, make the sauce very thick, and put sliced mushrooms and sauce in a toasted sandwich maker. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
I have some coming up in one of my tyre pots, and I believe they're edible.
they are indeed edible, when matured to a degree; but there are other species that look similar, and certainly are not edible ... are you sure you have the fungi you think? |
Delicious - but discard any bits
You know about 'shrooms too?! Last year I went on a fungus foray and discovered beefsteak fungus which is lovely and bloody and tastes of lemon. Then I was told that there are six fungi worth eating in England and that beefsteak fungus is one of them What are the others? Field mushroom um Chantarelle do you get that here or only in France? Wood blewitts I think was one we found on the fungus foray Tuffles Shaggy ink caps ??? Anna ~~ Anna Kettle, Suffolk, England |""""| ~ Lime plaster repairs / ^^ \ // Freehand modelling in lime: overmantels, pargeting etc |____| www.kettlenet.co.uk 01359 230642 |
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 22:28:07 GMT, (Anna Kettle)
wrote: Delicious - but discard any bits You know about 'shrooms too?! Last year I went on a fungus foray and discovered beefsteak fungus which is lovely and bloody and tastes of lemon. Then I was told that there are six fungi worth eating in England and that beefsteak fungus is one of them What are the others? Field mushroom um Chantarelle do you get that here or only in France? Wood blewitts I think was one we found on the fungus foray Tuffles Shaggy ink caps ??? Parasol mushrooms are excellent...though some people might find the shaggy variety disagrees with them. Likewise, some people ( i.e. me! ) can't tolerate wood blewits...had to try twice just to make sure. Giant puffballs are wonderful - and quite mild in flavour, so even unadventurous gourmets can be persuaded to have a go! Coated in beaten egg yolk and sauteed, they taste wonderful. Great with chips! Wood mushrooms are delightful, slightly more aniseedy than field mushrooms...and horse mushrooms are also excellent. The Cauliflower fungus is a rare treat...I've only ever found one edible specimen, and I'd just love to find another...and another...and another... Chicken of the woods is an unmistakable one - big, yellow 'brackets' hanging off tree trunks. Good in stews. Chuck in the fairy ring champignon, the St.George's mushroom etc etc and then all the 'boletus' fungi.... I think there are rather more than half a dozen decent 'eaters' out there...and a good many more 'fillers'. Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:30:20 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words: In article , Gary Woods wrote: "Andy Hunt" wrote: I have some coming up in one of my tyre pots, and I believe they're edible. Does anyone know how to cook/prepare them at all? IF they're the same ones that grow in the U.S., just sautee briefly in a little olive oil, garlic/onions to taste. They don't keep long, going inky and mushy quickly. And don't drink alcohol when eating them. Seriously. Perfectly OK to drink alcohol with *SHAGGY* ink caps. Just don't try it with the common ink cap, Coprinus atramantarius. Very difficult to confuse C altramantarius with the shaggy ink cap, the former being smooth, brownish and much fatter. Think 'lawyers wigs' and you won't go far wrong! Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
In article , Anna Kettle
writes Delicious - but discard any bits You know about 'shrooms too?! Last year I went on a fungus foray and discovered beefsteak fungus which is lovely and bloody and tastes of lemon. Then I was told that there are six fungi worth eating in England and that beefsteak fungus is one of them Only six? that seems a very personal view What are the others? Field mushroom um Chantarelle do you get that here or only in France? here too. Wood blewitts I think was one we found on the fungus foray Tuffles Shaggy ink caps Giant puff ball Boletes of various kinds (ceps) Morels That spiky hedgehoggy fungus Oyster mushroom .... to name just a few. -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
In article ,
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: Perfectly OK to drink alcohol with *SHAGGY* ink caps. Just don't try it with the common ink cap, Coprinus atramantarius. Very difficult to confuse C altramantarius with the shaggy ink cap, the former being smooth, brownish and much fatter. I have seen it reported in reliable places that a small proportion of people react to the combination of alcohol and shaggy caps. Yes, the other one is notorious, and was the original source of Antabuse. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
The message
from (Anna Kettle) contains these words: Delicious - but discard any bits You know about 'shrooms too?! Been into mushrooms since I was ten. In the Scouts my nickname was 'Fungus'. Last year I went on a fungus foray and discovered beefsteak fungus which is lovely and bloody and tastes of lemon. Then I was told that there are six fungi worth eating in England and that beefsteak fungus is one of them IMO beefsteak fungus is edible, but little more. There are hundreds of better culinary delights in the fun gus whirled. What are the others? About 33 varieties of Agaricus; more than a dozen Boleti; Shaggy ink caps; chanterelles, girolles and horn of plenty (properly, what is called 'chanterelle' in this country is a 'girolle': the chanterelle is a smaller brown and yellow relative.); Amanita rubescens, A. s****a, A. solitaria (but you have to be *VERY* *VERY* sure!); Amanitopsis fulva, A. fulva; (Lepiota) Parasol mushroom, shaggy parasol; Lepiota mastoidea; Many Tricholomacę, esp blewit/blueleg/bluestalk, wood blewit, St. George's mushroom, (Tricholomopsis) Plums and custard; Sperassis crispa - looks like a big bath sponge; many puffballs; Hedgehog - Hydnum rapandum; Leucopaxillus giganteus; clouded agaric; aniseed toadstool, common funnel cup; deceiver and amathyst deceiver; honey fungus; Pluteus umbrosus, P. cervinus; butter cap; velvet shank (but be careful not to confuse it with the poisonous sulphur tuft); many Hygrophorus species; meadow wax cap; blackening wax cap; scarlet hood; crimson wax cap; fairy ring mushroom (Marasmius oreades); Mycena pura; chicken of the woods; Lactarius piperatus (dried and ground for flavouring); Saffron milk cap (Lactarius deliciosus); Lactarius volemus; several more Lactarii, but there are several poisonous relatives; dozens of Russalę, (39 listed as edible in Phillips) esp charcoal burner - but... ; morels; some of the club, coral and bracket fungi; Jew's ear; scarlet elf cup and orange peel fungus. The French eat the dried stipes of the stinkhorn, but then, the French would, innit. Field mushroom um Chantarelle do you get that here or only in France? In wet and usually soft water areas IME. The west of Scotland is a marvellous place for them - if by chanterelle you mean 'girolle' - yellow and trumpet-shaped, branched veins instead of gills, smells of peaches/apricots. Wood blewitts I think was one we found on the fungus foray Excellent mushroom! Tuffles Not easily found - unless you know how. Shaggy ink caps I generally eat only the shaggy ink cap, though there are a few more Coprinus species which can be eaten. The common ink cap has horrid effects on you if you a) have any alcohol in your system b) take alcohol with it c) consume alcohol for up to three days after eating them. Best avoided, unless you are TT. ??? Yes, now that one is delicious, but no-one knows where it grows. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words: In article , Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: Perfectly OK to drink alcohol with *SHAGGY* ink caps. Just don't try it with the common ink cap, Coprinus atramantarius. Very difficult to confuse C altramantarius with the shaggy ink cap, the former being smooth, brownish and much fatter. I have seen it reported in reliable places that a small proportion of people react to the combination of alcohol and shaggy caps. Yes, the other one is notorious, and was the original source of Antabuse. I have never seen that reported, and none of the books I have mentions even the suspicion. Yes to that last, but one wonders if the symptoms aren't worse than the alcohol abuse! -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
I have some coming up in one of my tyre pots, and I believe they're edible. they are indeed edible, when matured to a degree; but there are other species that look similar, and certainly are not edible ... are you sure you have the fungi you think? I think so . . . I will definitely check first though! Thanks! Andy |
Wood blewitts I think was one we found on the fungus foray Tuffles Shaggy ink caps Giant puff ball Boletes of various kinds (ceps) Morels That spiky hedgehoggy fungus Oyster mushroom ... to name just a few. Isn't there a fungus known as (very politically incorrectly) "Jews' ears"? I remember eating some when I was young after a mushroom hunt in Cwmbran, Gwent . . . Andy |
Delicious - but discard any bits on which the gills are darker than a pale pink. Wash, then halve the mushrooms and their stalks and fry in butter or olive oil. (Most of a mushroom's flavour is oil-soluble.) With the remainder of the fat and juices, make a roux, then (over heat!) add white wine and a scrape of nutmeg until you have made a sauce. Serving suggestion: On hot buttered toast, and covered in sauce. Or, make the sauce very thick, and put sliced mushrooms and sauce in a toasted sandwich maker. Sounds absolutely delicious - have printed this one out!!! I'm hungry already - thanks Rusty! Andy |
"Andy Hunt" wrote in message ... Isn't there a fungus known as (very politically incorrectly) "Jews' ears"? I remember eating some when I was young after a mushroom hunt in Cwmbran, Gwent . . . Yes, it is a bracket fungus that grows on trees. Mike |
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 18:33:46 GMT, "Andy Hunt"
wrote: Wood blewitts I think was one we found on the fungus foray Tuffles Shaggy ink caps Giant puff ball Boletes of various kinds (ceps) Morels That spiky hedgehoggy fungus Oyster mushroom ... to name just a few. Isn't there a fungus known as (very politically incorrectly) "Jews' ears"? I remember eating some when I was young after a mushroom hunt in Cwmbran, Gwent . . . Yes.. it grows on Elder true..the legend being that this is the tree that Judas hung himself from. Needs a bit of preparation to make it palatable though. Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:54:24 +0100, Stephen Howard
wrote: Yes.. it grows on Elder true..the legend being that this is the tree .....................................^ trees! that Judas hung himself from. Needs a bit of preparation to make it palatable though. Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
On 12/9/04 20:54, in article ,
"Stephen Howard" wrote: snip Yes.. it grows on Elder true..the legend being that this is the tree that Judas hung himself from. Needs a bit of preparation to make it palatable though. I thought the Judas tree to be Cercis siquiliastrum, though given its full grown height, Judas must have been *very* short if he hanged himself from one of those! Elders are attributed to have magical powers against witches and were one of the trees in ancient 'barriers'. I *think* some of the others were ash and hawthorn, maybe beech and oak. Certainly, in some parts of Devon round us, beech trees are very widely seen. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
The message
from "Michael Berridge" contains these words: "Andy Hunt" wrote in message ... Isn't there a fungus known as (very politically incorrectly) "Jews' ears"? I remember eating some when I was young after a mushroom hunt in Cwmbran, Gwent . . . Yes, it is a bracket fungus that grows on trees. Especially on elder. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
The message
from Stephen Howard contains these words: Isn't there a fungus known as (very politically incorrectly) "Jews' ears"? I remember eating some when I was young after a mushroom hunt in Cwmbran, Gwent . . . Yes.. it grows on Elder true..the legend being that this is the tree that Judas hung himself from. Needs a bit of preparation to make it palatable though. Nah, just let it dry, then powder it in a coffee-grinder. Add to soups, stews, casseroles. Adds flavour and thickens it. I do this with the less palatable (soft or slimy) boleti, and with old specimens of other fungi. It's a useful way of storing mushrooms - they reduce to a very small volume, and keep indefinitely. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
In article , Sacha
writes On 12/9/04 20:54, in article , "Stephen Howard" wrote: snip Yes.. it grows on Elder true..the legend being that this is the tree that Judas hung himself from. Needs a bit of preparation to make it palatable though. I thought the Judas tree to be Cercis siquiliastrum, though given its full grown height, Judas must have been *very* short if he hanged himself from one of those! 12m? OK, a large proportion of that won't have boughs strong enough, but even so, that leaves enough for a good hanging. I looked it up, because my father's tree was certainly quite large before it finally died. -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
In article , Kay writes: | | Yes.. it grows on Elder true..the legend being that this is the tree | that Judas hung himself from. | Needs a bit of preparation to make it palatable though. | | I thought the Judas tree to be Cercis siquiliastrum, though given its full | grown height, Judas must have been *very* short if he hanged himself from | one of those! | | 12m? OK, a large proportion of that won't have boughs strong enough, but | even so, that leaves enough for a good hanging. | | I looked it up, because my father's tree was certainly quite large | before it finally died. One of the legends of elder is that the reason it is no larger (and has very brittle branches) is so that it can't be used for the same purpose again. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:04:04 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message from Stephen Howard contains these words: Isn't there a fungus known as (very politically incorrectly) "Jews' ears"? I remember eating some when I was young after a mushroom hunt in Cwmbran, Gwent . . . Yes.. it grows on Elder true..the legend being that this is the tree that Judas hung himself from. Needs a bit of preparation to make it palatable though. Nah, just let it dry, then powder it in a coffee-grinder. Add to soups, stews, casseroles. Adds flavour and thickens it. I do this with the less palatable (soft or slimy) boleti, and with old specimens of other fungi. It's a useful way of storing mushrooms - they reduce to a very small volume, and keep indefinitely. Cool tip! Ta. Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
The message
from Martin contains these words: On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:28:52 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: The message from (Anna Kettle) contains these words: Delicious - but discard any bits You know about 'shrooms too?! Been into mushrooms since I was ten. In the Scouts my nickname was 'Fungus'. because of your trainers/plimsols? ;o) Nah, it was the bogeys. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words: One of the legends of elder is that the reason it is no larger (and has very brittle branches) is so that it can't be used for the same purpose again. Try hanging yourself on my elder - I thought I'd do a quickie while the others were coming on. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/bonsai01.jpg Sorry about the qualititty of the pic - el cheapo Argos digital carambra. (£12.99 IIRC) -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
In article , Jaques d'Alltrades writes: | The message | from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words: | | One of the legends of elder is that the reason it is no larger (and | has very brittle branches) is so that it can't be used for the same | purpose again. | | Try hanging yourself on my elder - I thought I'd do a quickie while the | others were coming on. I'm sorry, but I have never gone in for that form of eroticism :-) | http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/bonsai01.jpg I like it! Elder can look incredibly ancient very fast. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
"Andy Hunt" wrote in message ... Wood blewitts I think was one we found on the fungus foray Tuffles Shaggy ink caps Giant puff ball Boletes of various kinds (ceps) Morels That spiky hedgehoggy fungus Oyster mushroom ... to name just a few. Isn't there a fungus known as (very politically incorrectly) "Jews' ears"? I remember eating some when I was young after a mushroom hunt in Cwmbran, Gwent . . . If I may refer to Belgian chocolates, or Boerewors, why may I not refer to Jews' ears? But more to the point, I always look out for them whenever I pass an old elder copse. Franz |
"Stephen Howard" wrote in message ... On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 18:33:46 GMT, "Andy Hunt" wrote: Wood blewitts I think was one we found on the fungus foray Tuffles Shaggy ink caps Giant puff ball Boletes of various kinds (ceps) Morels That spiky hedgehoggy fungus Oyster mushroom ... to name just a few. Isn't there a fungus known as (very politically incorrectly) "Jews' ears"? I remember eating some when I was young after a mushroom hunt in Cwmbran, Gwent . . . Yes.. it grows on Elder true..the legend being that this is the tree that Judas hung himself from. Needs a bit of preparation to make it palatable though. Not at all. Unless you call slicing it and frying it gently in garlic butter counts as preparation. The word "palatable" is not applicable to Jew's Ears. The appropriate adjective is "delicious". [snip] Franz |
Isn't there a fungus known as (very politically incorrectly) "Jews' ears"? I remember eating some when I was young after a mushroom hunt in Cwmbran, Gwent . . . If I may refer to Belgian chocolates, or Boerewors, why may I not refer to Jews' ears? Well I suppose it would be OK if they really WERE Jews' ears! Having seen the shape and general look of the fungus, I'm not sure how I would feel if it were called "Welshman's ears" . . . ! But then, as the man said, political correctness does have a tendency to kill off plain discussion. But more to the point, I always look out for them whenever I pass an old elder copse. Being a town-dweller, it's very rare to see anything like this round and about. It's a pity people don't cultivate and sell the many different types of edible British fungus, apart from the good old edible mushroom of course. My mum took me on a 'mushroom forage' when I was very young, and I remember it to this day, along with all the fungi we found. It was that foray that enabled me to recognise the shaggy ink caps in my pots. It's no wonder towns and cities are so depressing - such a lack of 'biodiversity' in our meagre existence. Andy |
"Andy Hunt" wrote in message ... Isn't there a fungus known as (very politically incorrectly) "Jews' ears"? I remember eating some when I was young after a mushroom hunt in Cwmbran, Gwent . . . If I may refer to Belgian chocolates, or Boerewors, why may I not refer to Jews' ears? Well I suppose it would be OK if they really WERE Jews' ears! Having seen the shape and general look of the fungus, I'm not sure how I would feel if it were called "Welshman's ears" . . . ! But then, as the man said, political correctness does have a tendency to kill off plain discussion. [...] It's always a good idea to distinguish so-called "political corectness" from good old British good manners (you're in danger of losing those, in my opinion, and that would be a world-class catastrophe). A Jewish girlfriend told me she found the name "Jews' ears" disturbing because the things didn't look very nice, and that as far as she was concerned the only Jew's ears around were firmly attached to the sides of her head. (Very neat they were, too, and more than a little nibblable.) What, we wondered, were the fungi called here before the illiterate mud-hut-dwelling locals had even heard of Jews, and before Jews had been cast as villains? I don't mind anything, however repulsive, being called "Aussies' xxxx"* because Europeans haven't abused power over me and treated me as an inferior breed -- Michael Howard and David Blunkett haven't gone that far yet, but I suppose there's still time. If you've got a Holocaust in the family you have reason to be less relaxed. *Note the number of exes. I'm the first to admit that mass-produced Oz beer is a disgrace to the craft of brewing -- but you're the suckers who drink the stuff: not my problem. "Tastes better chilled", indeed! You aren't going to fall for that shit, are you?...please? Mike. |
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: If I may refer to Belgian chocolates, or Boerewors, why may I not refer to Jews' ears? But more to the point, I always look out for them whenever I pass an old elder copse. Ah! Elder copse and Elder robbers! -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message k... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: If I may refer to Belgian chocolates, or Boerewors, why may I not refer to Jews' ears? But more to the point, I always look out for them whenever I pass an old elder copse. Ah! Elder copse and Elder robbers! Yes. The one near Winkworth Arboretum provided me with Jews' ears for frying and elderberries for winemaking for many years. Franz |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:51 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
GardenBanter