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Old 03-10-2004, 07:20 PM
Paul Giverin
 
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Now I'm wondering if there was a better alternative or whether I need to
use anything at all. I intend to use the greenhouse to over winter a
load of our plants which are in terracotta pots and prone to cracking
with the frost. I've got some bubble wrap and will shortly begin to
lining the greenhouse with it. I've also invested in an electric heater
to keep it frost free but also to help get a head start with next years
seeds.


Mine is concrete - easy to sweep clean. I usually raise plants of the
floor in winter by standing them on something (1) balanced on bricks.
The logic of this is that hot air rises so one might expect a layer of
cold air along the floor (2) - in which case, covering the floor with
compost would merely raise the level of the floor and I'd still want to
raise my plants above it. But there's no guarantee my logic is sound.

(1) old pieces of staging, plastic trays, old polystyrene boxes -
anything that comes to hand

(2) and you can sweep under them


Hello again Kay,

Helpful as usual

The mention of polystyrene has given me a thought. I could lay
polystyrene ceiling tiles in the winter when its really cold and I could
lift them in spring when I'm likely to be needing to water stuff inside.
I use those decking squares as duck boards down the middle at the moment
and I could retain these all year round.

Thanks Kay.

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Old 03-10-2004, 09:30 PM
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In message , Kay
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In article , Paul Giverin
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Now I'm wondering if there was a better alternative or whether I

need to
use anything at all. I intend to use the greenhouse to over winter

a
load of our plants which are in terracotta pots and prone to

cracking
with the frost. I've got some bubble wrap and will shortly begin

to
lining the greenhouse with it. I've also invested in an electric

heater
to keep it frost free but also to help get a head start with next

years
seeds.


Mine is concrete - easy to sweep clean. I usually raise plants of

the
floor in winter by standing them on something (1) balanced on

bricks.
The logic of this is that hot air rises so one might expect a layer

of
cold air along the floor (2) - in which case, covering the floor

with
compost would merely raise the level of the floor and I'd still

want to
raise my plants above it. But there's no guarantee my logic is

sound.

(1) old pieces of staging, plastic trays, old polystyrene boxes -
anything that comes to hand

(2) and you can sweep under them


Hello again Kay,

Helpful as usual

The mention of polystyrene has given me a thought. I could lay
polystyrene ceiling tiles in the winter when its really cold and I

could
lift them in spring when I'm likely to be needing to water stuff

inside.
I use those decking squares as duck boards down the middle at the

moment
and I could retain these all year round.


That will be an entirely nugatory exercise. Concrete only feels
colder to the feet than a carpet because it conducts heat from the
feet much better than a carpet does. A concrete base for a greenhouse
is about as good as you can get. Be glad you have that possibility.

Franz


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Old 04-10-2004, 01:30 PM
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The mention of polystyrene has given me a thought. I could lay
polystyrene ceiling tiles in the winter when its really cold and I could
lift them in spring when I'm likely to be needing to water stuff inside.
I use those decking squares as duck boards down the middle at the moment
and I could retain these all year round.


I think it's unnecessary. Most of your heat loss will be through walls
and top, so thick layer of bubble wrap, as you're proposing, is the best
thing you can do. Ceiling tiles are too fragile to walk on, and you will
want to be in there through the winter to see what is happening, and
clear any dying foliage, and from early spring when you start sowing.

The main cold problem is the cold air outside moving past the greenhouse
- the earth acts as a giant storage heater, so putting an insulating
layer between it and the greenhouse is not necessarily a good idea.
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Kay
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I think it's unnecessary. Most of your heat loss will be through walls
and top, so thick layer of bubble wrap, as you're proposing, is the best
thing you can do. Ceiling tiles are too fragile to walk on, and you will
want to be in there through the winter to see what is happening, and
clear any dying foliage, and from early spring when you start sowing.

The main cold problem is the cold air outside moving past the greenhouse
- the earth acts as a giant storage heater, so putting an insulating
layer between it and the greenhouse is not necessarily a good idea.


Thanks again Kay. I'll clean out the old compost I give it a try bare.


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Paul Giverin

British Jet Engine Website http://www.britjet.co.uk
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