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p 31-10-2004 12:08 PM

Tree Ferns.. and when to prepare for winter
 
I have a south east facing, suburban garden in Worcestershire. I have
two 2' tree ferns in a sheltered area, toward the house, but by a
north facing fence.. I understand that the Tasmanian Tree Fern
(Dicksonia Antarctica) can stay outside, and once its fronds have died
off the top of the trunk should be stuffed with a ball of hay.

The Rough Tree Fern (Cyathea australis) I understand is not as hardy.
Would I need to bring this into the house? Can it be protected
outside?

I also have a two year old Olive tree and an 18 month old Canary
Island Date palm (Phoenix canariensis). Would they benefit from
wintering indoors. I do not have a greenhouse or conservatory, but I
do have a large unheated shed toward the bottom of the garden.

Many thanks

Rupert 31-10-2004 02:13 PM


"p" tony_nospam_ @highbury_spam_no_no.com wrote in message
...
I have a south east facing, suburban garden in Worcestershire. I have
two 2' tree ferns in a sheltered area, toward the house, but by a
north facing fence.. I understand that the Tasmanian Tree Fern
(Dicksonia Antarctica) can stay outside, and once its fronds have died
off the top of the trunk should be stuffed with a ball of hay.

The Rough Tree Fern (Cyathea australis) I understand is not as hardy.
Would I need to bring this into the house? Can it be protected
outside?

I also have a two year old Olive tree and an 18 month old Canary
Island Date palm (Phoenix canariensis). Would they benefit from
wintering indoors. I do not have a greenhouse or conservatory, but I
do have a large unheated shed toward the bottom of the garden.

Many thanks


I have both of the tree ferns and palm you mention ( no olive tree).
Cyathea australis is I believe as hardy as Dicksonia Antarctica
All three appear quite happy outside in winter (West Yorkshire ).
The tree ferns loose their fronds with heavy frost but with a small degree
of protection (fleece ) the fronds will survive at least another year. The
old darker green fronds make a good contrast with the new ones. At the least
protect the crown with a handful of straw or leaves.
My Phoenix canariensis planted in a windy well drained soil is as tough as
old boots and looses the odd lower branches only



p 05-11-2004 08:06 PM

I have both of the tree ferns and palm you mention ( no olive tree).
Cyathea australis is I believe as hardy as Dicksonia Antarctica
All three appear quite happy outside in winter (West Yorkshire ).
The tree ferns loose their fronds with heavy frost but with a small degree
of protection (fleece ) the fronds will survive at least another year. The
old darker green fronds make a good contrast with the new ones. At the least
protect the crown with a handful of straw or leaves.
My Phoenix canariensis planted in a windy well drained soil is as tough as
old boots and looses the odd lower branches only


How old/established are your ferns?

Rupert 06-11-2004 05:07 PM


"p" tony_nospam_ @highbury_spam_no_no.com wrote in message
...
I have both of the tree ferns and palm you mention ( no olive tree).
Cyathea australis is I believe as hardy as Dicksonia Antarctica
All three appear quite happy outside in winter (West Yorkshire ).
The tree ferns loose their fronds with heavy frost but with a small degree
of protection (fleece ) the fronds will survive at least another year. The
old darker green fronds make a good contrast with the new ones. At the
least
protect the crown with a handful of straw or leaves.
My Phoenix canariensis planted in a windy well drained soil is as tough as
old boots and looses the odd lower branches only


How old/established are your ferns?


4 Tree ferns. Three have trunks about 5 feet and are planted in the ground.
One in a pot at about 2 feet high.

All four have been in my possession for about 6 years



p 07-11-2004 11:47 AM

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 17:07:51 -0000, "Rupert"
wrote:


"p" tony_nospam_ @highbury_spam_no_no.com wrote in message
.. .
I have both of the tree ferns and palm you mention ( no olive tree).
Cyathea australis is I believe as hardy as Dicksonia Antarctica
All three appear quite happy outside in winter (West Yorkshire ).
The tree ferns loose their fronds with heavy frost but with a small degree
of protection (fleece ) the fronds will survive at least another year. The
old darker green fronds make a good contrast with the new ones. At the
least
protect the crown with a handful of straw or leaves.
My Phoenix canariensis planted in a windy well drained soil is as tough as
old boots and looses the odd lower branches only


How old/established are your ferns?


4 Tree ferns. Three have trunks about 5 feet and are planted in the ground.
One in a pot at about 2 feet high.

All four have been in my possession for about 6 years

Thanks for you reply. Which varieties to you have?

Rupert 07-11-2004 06:16 PM


"p" tony_nospam_ @highbury_spam_no_no.com wrote in message
...
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 17:07:51 -0000, "Rupert"
wrote:


"p" tony_nospam_ @highbury_spam_no_no.com wrote in message
. ..
I have both of the tree ferns and palm you mention ( no olive tree).
Cyathea australis is I believe as hardy as Dicksonia Antarctica
All three appear quite happy outside in winter (West Yorkshire ).
The tree ferns loose their fronds with heavy frost but with a small
degree
of protection (fleece ) the fronds will survive at least another year.
The
old darker green fronds make a good contrast with the new ones. At the
least
protect the crown with a handful of straw or leaves.
My Phoenix canariensis planted in a windy well drained soil is as tough
as
old boots and looses the odd lower branches only


How old/established are your ferns?


4 Tree ferns. Three have trunks about 5 feet and are planted in the
ground.
One in a pot at about 2 feet high.

All four have been in my possession for about 6 years

Thanks for you reply. Which varieties to you have?


All four are Dicksonia Antarctica but this appears to be a generalised term
in some of my local garden centres. One has a much more fibrous trunk than
the rest and produces smaller fronds.




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