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Tom C 02-11-2004 09:04 PM

Mushrooms in Lawn
 
Can anyone please suggest a way for getting rid of mushrooms in lawn -
thanks



Oxymel of Squill 03-11-2004 01:36 PM

why? I think they're great fun and brighten an otherwise dull splurge of
boring green

anyway, best not to upset the fairies


"Tom C" wrote in message
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Can anyone please suggest a way for getting rid of mushrooms in lawn -
thanks




ex WGS Hamm 03-11-2004 06:59 PM


"Tom C" wrote in message
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Can anyone please suggest a way for getting rid of mushrooms in lawn -
thanks


Pick them and fry in hot olive oil.



Nick Maclaren 03-11-2004 10:52 PM

In article ,
ex WGS Hamm wrote:

Can anyone please suggest a way for getting rid of mushrooms in

lawn - thanks

Pick them and fry in hot olive oil.


Only if you have first *positively* identified them as being an edible
species.


What is it with the British and mushrooms? Everything is viewed with
suspicion and only nasty shrink wrapped buttons are eaten. In France and
Germany whole families go mushrooming. I did as a child.And if there was
anywhere around here where mushrooms grew, I would be out gathering them.
But yes make sure that the mushrooms are not one of the tiny minority which
might make you ill.


As someone who actively prefers many of the wild ones to anything
that you can buy, and used to do that when I lived in an area it was
feasible, may I respond?

There are a few fungi that will really spoil your day. Amanita
phalloides looks very like a field mushroom when young, and will not
make you ill for 12-24 hours afterwards. However, you will probably
die a few days later - as far as I know, there is still no treatment
for the general organ failure that it causes. Oh, and it is fairly
common in grassland, including lawns.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Franz Heymann 04-11-2004 07:26 AM


"Stephen Howard" wrote in message
...

[snip]

I don't think I know any mushroomers who follow the 'Aww, just have

a
go' philosophy. No doubt there's a scientific explanation...


There was that 19th century parson who was an enthusiastic
fungus-eater who sampled everything he found. He always kept a
stomach pump to hand, just in case.

[snip]

Franz



Stephen Howard 04-11-2004 11:14 AM

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 07:26:16 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Stephen Howard" wrote in message
.. .

[snip]

I don't think I know any mushroomers who follow the 'Aww, just have

a
go' philosophy. No doubt there's a scientific explanation...


There was that 19th century parson who was an enthusiastic
fungus-eater who sampled everything he found. He always kept a
stomach pump to hand, just in case.

I've read some of his accounts ( featured in the book 'Mushroom Magic
- which accompanied the television series of some years ago ).
Apparently he had need of it.

I've suffered a similar fate myself twice, though through an allergic
reaction to an otherwise edible species, and I can say with heartfelt
sincerity that 'much purging, great sweats and loathsome dread' is a
pretty accurate description of what ensued.

Regards,



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Jaques d'Alltrades 04-11-2004 02:40 PM

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from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:
"Stephen Howard" wrote in message
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[snip]

I don't think I know any mushroomers who follow the 'Aww, just have

a
go' philosophy. No doubt there's a scientific explanation...


There was that 19th century parson who was an enthusiastic
fungus-eater who sampled everything he found. He always kept a
stomach pump to hand, just in case.


It is said that if you salt your mushrooms for a day and then boil them
for a long time in brine, you can eat any of them.

However, while it's true that as most of the flavours are oil-soluble
and the proteins remain too, (in the main,) this isn't a practice I've
tried, nor would I recommend anyone else to try it.

Amanita muscaria is *SAID* to be edible if it is peeled first, but I
wouldn't want to try that either - especially as the flavour is said to
be very bitter. Might just as well eat Boletus felleus, which is bitter
without (AFAIK) any poisonous effects.

Had a plateful of bluelegs, mergez (spicy N.African lamb sausage) and
baked spud for lunch today.

--
Rusty
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Jaques d'Alltrades 04-11-2004 02:43 PM

The message
from Stephen Howard contains these words:

I've read some of his accounts ( featured in the book 'Mushroom Magic
- which accompanied the television series of some years ago ).
Apparently he had need of it.


I've suffered a similar fate myself twice, though through an allergic
reaction to an otherwise edible species, and I can say with heartfelt
sincerity that 'much purging, great sweats and loathsome dread' is a
pretty accurate description of what ensued.


If the title was 'Mushroom Magic', perhaps Michael Jordan was
injudicious in publishing one of his books under that title...

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Jaques d'Alltrades 04-11-2004 07:18 PM

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| Fortunately, A. phalloides is uncommon.


Not as much as all that. When I lived in Wiltshire, I found it
fairly often. For comparison, I have ONCE seen a giant puffball.
I agree that it is probably only locally fairly common.


My experience is the opposite - I sometimes have to give away, cook and
freeze (or preserve in oil) giant puffballs because I have so many.

I've only seen A. phalloides a couple of times. (In fact, I've seen
Volvariella surrecta more often, and when I sent a specimen to the
British Museum they were over the moon - no-one there had seen a fresh
specimen... Ted Ellis, OTOH, knew where there were several more clones
in Norfolk alone.)

BTW, part of e-mail from Kew:

--------======== Quote ========--------

The botanist who identified it said it
was an interesting Solanum that he had not come across before. It is
Solanum villosum subsp. miniatum according to Stace's New Flora of
the British Isles or Solanum luteum subsp. alatum according to Flora
Europaea. They are synonyms and the common name is red or hairy
nightshade. The main species was introduced from southern Europe
either via wool, bird seed or oilseed. Another subspecies was
introduced in the Nottingham area for pharmaceutical use (possibly by
Boots). The berries are yellow orange or red. It is an infrequent casual
in southern England. I have kept the plant alive to ripen some of the
berries to grow on next year.


Thank you for making the enquiry - we've all learnt something from it!

--------======== Unquote ========--------

Next year I shall be trying to cross it with garden huckleberries - I
tried some of the berries and they were more pleasant than S. nigrum,
and then the rest of the pulp from the ripe berried of two plants and
suffered no ill-effects.

I have a dessertspoon-or-so of seeds. Golden Huckleberries ahoy! (After
careful testing, innit.)

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Mike Lyle 04-11-2004 11:08 PM

ex WGS Hamm wrote:
[...]
Woe is me. Why cannot you find a poisonous mushroom when you want

to.

It's this government: ask any farmer. It's the last government: ask
any farmer. It's the government before that: ask any farmer. It's
the...

Mike.



Jaques d'Alltrades 05-11-2004 12:55 AM

The message
from "Mike Lyle" contains these words:
ex WGS Hamm wrote:
[...]
Woe is me. Why cannot you find a poisonous mushroom when you want

to.


It's this government: ask any farmer. It's the last government: ask
any farmer. It's the government before that: ask any farmer. It's
the...


....last government, ask the one following it...

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Sacha 05-11-2004 06:47 AM

On 5/11/04 0:46, in article , "Janet Galpin"
wrote:

snip
I think there are probably more people who *don't* eat perfectly edible
mushrooms just in case, than those who rush into eating poisonous ones.
I have quite a few mushrooms this year and have been trying to identify
them positively enough to take the plunge and eat them. I know they're
not Amanita phalloides because I've taken their spore print which is
brown rather than white. I'm now wondering, having eliminated Amanita
phalloides, how likely it is that mushrooms which look very like rather
thin versions of shop-bought mushrooms, with pale brown gills and brown
spore prints, could be anything other than edible.
Janet G


We have some on one lawn at the moment which are small and round and
chestnut coloured with touches of cream or vice versa. They're very pretty
but I have no idea what they are. I think there used to be an oak tree
there years ago but it came crashing down in a storm in 1990. And no,
they're not truffles before anyone decides to get the pig out. ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Jaques d'Alltrades 05-11-2004 10:10 AM

The message
from Janet Galpin contains these words:

I think there are probably more people who *don't* eat perfectly edible
mushrooms just in case, than those who rush into eating poisonous ones.
I have quite a few mushrooms this year and have been trying to identify
them positively enough to take the plunge and eat them. I know they're
not Amanita phalloides because I've taken their spore print which is
brown rather than white. I'm now wondering, having eliminated Amanita
phalloides, how likely it is that mushrooms which look very like rather
thin versions of shop-bought mushrooms, with pale brown gills and brown
spore prints, could be anything other than edible.


Very easily, I'm afraid. Even the genus Agaricus (in which your
shop-bought mushrooms reside) has at least three indiginous species
which you'd be wise to avoid.

I'd advise you to get a good book, such as Roger Phillips' excellent
'Mushrooms and Other Fungi of Great Britain and Europe', and it's not
too late to look in your local paper or library and find expert-led
fungus forays starting from your area.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Jaques d'Alltrades 05-11-2004 10:12 AM

The message
from Sacha contains these words:

We have some on one lawn at the moment which are small and round and
chestnut coloured with touches of cream or vice versa. They're very pretty
but I have no idea what they are. I think there used to be an oak tree
there years ago but it came crashing down in a storm in 1990. And no,
they're not truffles before anyone decides to get the pig out. ;-)


Jpeg!

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Sacha 05-11-2004 10:29 AM

On 5/11/04 10:12, in article ,
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote:

The message
from Sacha contains these words:

We have some on one lawn at the moment which are small and round and
chestnut coloured with touches of cream or vice versa. They're very pretty
but I have no idea what they are. I think there used to be an oak tree
there years ago but it came crashing down in a storm in 1990. And no,
they're not truffles before anyone decides to get the pig out. ;-)


Jpeg!


Is that a comment or an invitation? ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)



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