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How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?


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PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR

PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR decided to add:

How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Pop it ?
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Never argue with an idiot.
They drag you down to their level,
then beat you with experience......

Keep the ball.

Get an attack dog for your yard.


"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
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How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?


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PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR

"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
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How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Remember you were a child once too. Then it won't matter.

--
Brian
"Reality rarely lives up to TV, usually because reality has a smaller budget
and the opportunities for retakes are minimal."

On 10/11/04 6:16, in article , "Brian
Watson" wrote:


"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
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How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Remember you were a child once too. Then it won't matter.

Tell them they don't need to ask - just go and get it. Worked fine for me
some years ago.
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Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
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How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking
if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Tell them they don't need to ask and just get it without doing damage. Be
thankful they are polite enough to ask.


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Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking
if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Remember you were a child once too. Then it won't matter.


Some people never were children, especially if they have none themselves.

Mike

Obviously Sacha doesn't have the balls to make a stand against trespassers.


"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
On 10/11/04 6:16, in article ,
"Brian
Watson" wrote:


"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
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How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking
if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Remember you were a child once too. Then it won't matter.

Tell them they don't need to ask - just go and get it. Worked fine for me
some years ago.
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Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

Don't you mean they never were children if their parents never had any.

Hannibal Lechter had several children........and they were delicious!!!!!


"Mike" wrote in message
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How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins
asking
if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Remember you were a child once too. Then it won't matter.


Some people never were children, especially if they have none themselves.

Mike

"Brian Watson" wrote in message
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"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
...
How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking
if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Remember you were a child once too. Then it won't matter.

--
Brian
"Reality rarely lives up to TV, usually because reality has a smaller
budget
and the opportunities for retakes are minimal."


Tell their parents that you failed your CRB check.

"Cerumen" wrote in message
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"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
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How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking
if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Tell them they don't need to ask and just get it without doing damage. Be
thankful they are polite enough to ask.

That sounds like the best bet all round.
You might as well play along provided the kids are reasonable and not likely
to make a mess.
What would make some nervous is that kids (and builders) are blind to plants
and borders and even green houses.
Kids just run through plants without seeing them.



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Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

If fruit drops onto a neighbours land it is theirs to keep. How come the
football coming onto their land isn't?

Mike
Who doesn't have neighbour problems :-))

"Mike" wrote in message
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If fruit drops onto a neighbours land it is theirs to keep. How come the
football coming onto their land isn't?

Mike
Who doesn't have neighbour problems :-))


I read recently that windfall apples belong to the owner of the tree even if
they fall on someone elses land. You are not obliged to let on your land to
pick them u however but you can't legally keep them yourself.

I think it was from a link posted on here.

Saffy.

In article ,
"Saffy" writes:
| "Mike" wrote in message
| ...
|
| If fruit drops onto a neighbours land it is theirs to keep. How come the
| football coming onto their land isn't?
|
| I read recently that windfall apples belong to the owner of the tree even if
| they fall on someone elses land. You are not obliged to let on your land to
| pick them u however but you can't legally keep them yourself.

That is supposed to be so, and the police are exceeding their powers
when they order people to hand things back. However, because you
are not allowed to keep your neighbour's things that fall on your
land, you can't even pick them up!

A reasonable compromise to an excessive number of balls flying over
is to refuse to stop what you are doing to return them or enable
access, and to tell them to come back at a time of your choosing.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
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How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking if
they can go into my garden to get their ball back?


Get a taller fence / hedge ?
Dig a moat?
Jenny

"Saffy" wrote in message
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"Mike" wrote in message
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If fruit drops onto a neighbours land it is theirs to keep. How come the
football coming onto their land isn't?

Mike
Who doesn't have neighbour problems :-))


I read recently that windfall apples belong to the owner of the tree even
if
they fall on someone elses land. You are not obliged to let on your land
to
pick them u however but you can't legally keep them yourself.

I think it was from a link posted on here.

Saffy.

Sorry about the long reply but this is the actual law and I have underlined
the parts which could apply to the keeping of balls and fruit etc


THEFT ACT 1968



s 1 Basic definition of theft.

(1) A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property
belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other
of it; and "thief" and "steal" shall be construed accordingly.
(2) It is immaterial whether the appropriation is made with a view to gain,
or is made for the thief's own benefit.
(3) The five following sections of this Act shall have effect as regards the
interpretation and operation of this section (and, except as otherwise
provided by this Act, shall apply only for purposes of this section).



s 2 "Dishonestly".

(1) A person's appropriation of property belonging to another is not to be
regarded as dishonest--
(a) if he appropriates the property in the belief that he has in law the
right to deprive the other of it, on behalf of himself or of a third person;
or
(b) if he appropriates the property in the belief that he would have the
other's consent if the other knew of the appropriation and the circumstances
of it; or
(c) (except where the property came to him as trustee or personal
representative) if he appropriates the property in the belief that the
person to whom the property belongs cannot be discovered by taking
reasonable steps.
(2) A person's appropriation of property belonging to another may be
dishonest notwithstanding that he is willing to pay for the property.



s 3 "Appropriates".

(1) Any assumption by a person of the rights of an owner amounts to an
appropriation, and this includes, where he has come by the property
(innocently or not) without stealing it, any later assumption of a right to
it by keeping or dealing with it as owner.
(2) Where property or a right or interest in property is or purports to be
transferred for value to a person acting in good faith, no later assumption
by him of rights which he believed himself to be acquiring shall, by reason
of any defect in the transferor's title, amount to theft of the property.

s 4 "Property".

(1) "Property" includes money and all other property, real or personal,
including things in action and other intangible property.
(2) A person cannot steal land, or things forming part of land and severed
from it by him or by his directions, except in the following cases, that is
to say--
(a) when he is a trustee or personal representative, or is authorised by
power of attorney, or as liquidator of a company, or otherwise, to sell or
dispose of land belonging to another, and he appropriates the land or
anything forming part of it by dealing with it in breach of the confidence
reposed in him; or
(b) when he is not in possession of the land and appropriates anything
forming part of the land by severing it or causing it to be severed, or
after it has been severed; or
(c) when, being in possession of the land under a tenancy, he appropriates
the whole or part of any fixture or structure let to be used with the land.
For purposes of this subsection "land" does not include incorporeal
hereditaments; "tenancy" means a tenancy for years or any less period and
includes an agreement for such a tenancy, but a person who after the end of
a tenancy remains in possession as statutory tenant or otherwise is to be
treated as having possession under the tenancy, and "let" shall be construed
accordingly.
(3) A person who picks mushrooms growing wild on any land, or who picks
flowers, fruit or foliage from a plant growing wild on any land, does not
(although not in possession of the land) steal what he picks, unless he does
it for reward or for sale or other commercial purpose.
For purposes of this subsection "mushroom" includes any fungus, and "plant"
includes any shrub or tree.
(4) Wild creatures, tamed or untamed, shall be regarded as property; but a
person cannot steal a wild creature not tamed nor ordinarily kept in
captivity, or the carcase of any such creature, unless either it has been
reduced into possession by or on behalf of another person and possession of
it has not since been lost or abandoned, or another person is in course of
reducing it into possessio

s 5 "Belonging to another".

(1) Property shall be regarded as belonging to any person having possession
or control of it, or having in it any proprietary right or interest (not
being an equitable interest arising only from an agreement to transfer or
grant an interest).
(2) Where property is subject to a trust, the persons to whom it belongs
shall be regarded as including any person having a right to enforce the
trust, and an intention to defeat the trust shall be regarded accordingly as
an intention to deprive of the property any person having that right.
(3) Where a person receives property from or on account of another, and is
under an obligation to the other to retain and deal with that property or
its proceeds in a particular way, the property or proceeds shall be regarded
(as against him) as belonging to the other.
(4) Where a person gets property by another's mistake, and is under an
obligation to make restoration (in whole or in part) of the property or its
proceeds or of the value thereof, then to the extent of that obligation the
property or proceeds shall be regarded (as against him) as belonging to the
person entitled to restoration, and an intention not to make restoration
shall be regarded accordingly as an intention to deprive that person of the
property or proceeds.
(5) Property of a corporation sole shall be regarded as belonging to the
corporation notwithstanding a vacancy in the corporation.


s 6 "With the intention of permanently depriving the other of it".

(1) A person appropriating property belonging to another without meaning the
other permanently to lose the thing itself is nevertheless to be regarded as
having the intention of permanently depriving the other of it if his
intention is to treat the thing as his own to dispose of regardless of the
other's rights; and a borrowing or lending of it may amount to so treating
it if, but only if, the borrowing or lending is for a period and in
circumstances making it equivalent to an outright taking or disposal.

"Cereus-validus." wrote in message
. com...
The cop was wrong to make that threat. He would have been laughed out of
court. If the ball was in the yard, it automatically became property. It
would only be theft if the person went and took the ball from somebody
else's yard.

Wrong read the Theft Act 1968

You should teach your idiot son to be more careful where he throws his
balls. Only a moron would make the same mistake six times.

You know nothing about my son

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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Please don't respond to trolls talking balls.

Quite right

"Duncan Heenan" wrote in message
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"Brian Watson" wrote in message
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"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
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How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking
if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Remember you were a child once too. Then it won't matter.

--
Brian
"Reality rarely lives up to TV, usually because reality has a smaller
budget
and the opportunities for retakes are minimal."


Tell their parents that you failed your CRB check.

Good idea that, then there will be bricks coming through your windows with
paedo written on them, not to mention the baying mob outside your house.

Jolly good. Chip chip cheerio!!!

Some dumb jock should come after your balls with a baseball bat, you pompous
cricket head. You'd probably like it.


"suspicious minds" wrote in message
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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Please don't respond to trolls talking balls.

Quite right

Then again your parents weren't making excuses for a dyslexic dimwitted
child like they are. The problem is that the parents haven't any sense nor
any balls.

You were smart enough to learn from your mistakes and not to make them
again. Your parents were smart enough to know to nip the problem in the bud
long before it got out of hand.


"Gwenhyffar Milgi" wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 06:16:09 -0000, "Brian Watson"
wrote:


"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
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How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking
if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Remember you were a child once too. Then it won't matter.

My parents did not take kindly to me continously bothering the
neighbours. If I did that, they would take the ball away themselves

--
This is the dance that I do every day
let my feet go, wander away
let my soul lead, follow the sound
that dance that I do when there's no one around.
http://uk.profiles.yahoo.com/gwenhyffar

The message
from "Mike" contains these words:

If fruit drops onto a neighbours land it is theirs to keep. How come the
football coming onto their land isn't?

Fruit from your tree dropping next-door is not theirs, it's yours.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

The message
from "suspicious minds" contains these words:

Sorry about the long reply but this is the actual law and I have underlined
the parts which could apply to the keeping of balls and fruit etc

However, you have not mentioned conversion.

Depriving someone of their property without legal right, but with no
intention of depriving them of it permanently (legal right might be for
instance, the police removing evidence) is a civil offence, and usually,
a criminal offence, too.

The difference being, you can sue someone for conversion and they
*MIGHT* get a criminal conviction if you win, and you might be awarded
damages, but a thief has to be prosecuted (usually by the state, though
you can in some cases initiate a private prosecution) and compensation
is seldom awarded to the aggrieved party.

I don't think you can sue someone for recompense if the property is
stolen, BICBW.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
On 10/11/04 6:16, in article ,
"Brian
Watson" wrote:


"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
...
How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking
if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Remember you were a child once too. Then it won't matter.

Tell them they don't need to ask - just go and get it. Worked fine for me
some years ago.
Then they would be trespassing and if it was my garden, they would be in
grave danger of being seriously injured by my dogs.

On 10/11/04 16:15, in article , "ex WGS
Hamm" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
snip

Tell them they don't need to ask - just go and get it. Worked fine for me
some years ago.
Then they would be trespassing and if it was my garden, they would be in
grave danger of being seriously injured by my dogs.


But it isn't your garden and they're not trespassing if they ask and are
granted permission. And we don't know that the OP has dogs. At that
particular point in my life, I had two dogs and it never crossed my mind
that they would attack anyone, let alone children, because that wasn't in
their nature. I see no point in keeping vicious animals.
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:45:05 +0100, "JennyC" wrote:


"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
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How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking if
they can go into my garden to get their ball back?


Get a taller fence / hedge ?
Dig a moat?

A colleague used a fine needle to perforate a neighbour's kid's
football and warned about the risk of the kid damaging his football on
the rose bush thorns.
Martin

LOL - A devious mind is a joy forever :~)

We have trouble at work with a co-inhabitant of our office block. He rants about
people smoking outside, bikes parked in the wrong place, scooters in the bike
shed (they are not bikes....), etc etc etc. He leaves notices pinned to peoples
bikes, puts stickers (which are impossible to remove) on windscreens if a car is
a tadge over his parking space........

We were discussing his chronic behaviour and a colleague (who shall remain
nameless) said, 'we could always smear black shoe polish on his windscreen
wipers.......he'd not notice it until the next time it rained......."

"~

Jenny

"Cereus-validus..." wrote in message
. com...
Yeah, that Theft act is a bit convoluted. It protects the stupid and
punishes the victim. Must have been written up by a republican
judge.

There are no republican judges in the UK.

The
neighbor should have returned the balls deflated with punctures in
them!

You son is obviously a dyslexic dumb jock meat head. Don't want to
know
anything more about your dimwit spawn. His not being able to keep
his balls
out of neighbor's yards six times (or more) is all the proof one
needs of
how inept the dullard is. He's so dumb, he could be president some
day!

We are not cursed with objects of scorn like presidents in the UK.

Franz

"Brian Watson" wrote in message
...

"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
...
How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking
if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Remember you were a child once too. Then it won't matter.

--
Brian
"Reality rarely lives up to TV, usually because reality has a smaller
budget
and the opportunities for retakes are minimal."


.................................................. ...........................
.................................................. .
Yes Brian, at last someone has echoed my thoughts, as I remember when I use
to
Pester my poor neighbour every 5 mins :-)
But I do think it is only human to get annoyed some days, and I do tell them
"It only takes one of you to get the ball", when six lads come round :-)
Kids are kids, just as we were, but when you get older you do forget
sometimes eh?


--


PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR

We have trouble at work with a co-inhabitant of our office block. He rants
about
people smoking outside, bikes parked in the wrong place, scooters in the
bike
shed (they are not bikes....), etc etc etc. He leaves notices pinned to
peoples
bikes, puts stickers (which are impossible to remove) on windscreens if a
car is
a tadge over his parking space........


I was teaching in an Engineering Training School and there was only one
'Reserved' Parking space, that of the Principals. As I am an early riser, I
was always first there, so parked in the first vacant space. i.e., next to
the reserved one. A message came down through the hierarchy, not to park my
car there.

The Principle had a Hillman . . . . . . I had a Jaguar :-((

Mike

"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message

Sorry about the long reply but this is the actual law ............

Depriving someone of their property without legal right, but with no
intention of depriving them of it permanently (legal right might be for
instance, the police removing evidence) is a civil offence, and usually,
a criminal offence, too.

"Theft By Finding" is what it used to be called, I think; if you find
something that isn't yours and you keep it, then it's theft.

The info from various Citizens' Advice Bureau is:

If a child throws a ball into a neighbour's property the neighbour should
either hand it back or allow it to be collected. However, as it is a
trespass for the ball to cross the neighbour's boundary, even if it was
unintentional, the neighbour would be entitled to compensation if s/he can
prove s/he has lost money, for example, if the ball has smashed a window. It
is also theoretically possible that, if the child's ball is always coming
into a neighbour's property, the neighbour could take a court action for
nuisance with an injunction to prevent repetition. However, legal advice
would have to be sought. A conciliatory approach would be preferable.

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Saffy" writes:
| "Mike" wrote in message
| ...
|
| If fruit drops onto a neighbours land it is theirs to keep. How come
the
| football coming onto their land isn't?
|
| I read recently that windfall apples belong to the owner of the tree
even if
| they fall on someone elses land. You are not obliged to let on your
land to
| pick them u however but you can't legally keep them yourself.

That is supposed to be so, and the police are exceeding their powers
when they order people to hand things back. However, because you
are not allowed to keep your neighbour's things that fall on your
land, you can't even pick them up!

A reasonable compromise to an excessive number of balls flying over
is to refuse to stop what you are doing to return them or enable
access, and to tell them to come back at a time of your choosing.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Nick is entirely correct here I have a book on household laws, and the
later mails showing the law on theft do not apply case law shows that you
Do NOT have to return the ball until you touch it. They have committed
trespass on your property by putting the ball on it and they have no right
of access or return of the ball. What we did when we had the same problem
was to give them a time several hours later at which they could return to
collect the balls. We also had a Border collie who liked to sink his teeth
in to footballs which helped...

The Q

The devil cannot enter your home unless you invite him in.

Allowing the neighbor kids into your yard to retrieve their balls is
inviting a whole lot of trouble. They will be nowhere nearly as careful with
your plants, garden and property as you are.

"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
On 10/11/04 16:15, in article , "ex
WGS
Hamm" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
snip

Tell them they don't need to ask - just go and get it. Worked fine for
me
some years ago.
Then they would be trespassing and if it was my garden, they would be in
grave danger of being seriously injured by my dogs.


But it isn't your garden and they're not trespassing if they ask and are
granted permission. And we don't know that the OP has dogs. At that
particular point in my life, I had two dogs and it never crossed my mind
that they would attack anyone, let alone children, because that wasn't in
their nature. I see no point in keeping vicious animals.
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

Sure Franz, maybe not republican in name but certainly republican in spirit!

Tony Blair may belong to the Labor Party but he is a closet Conservative
chicken hawk just like Dubya!! They both served the same amount of time in
military service!!!!

Sure Franz, you are just cursed with object of scorn Prime Ministers like
Tony Blair. Not much of a difference at all!!!


"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"Cereus-validus..." wrote in message
. com...
Yeah, that Theft act is a bit convoluted. It protects the stupid and
punishes the victim. Must have been written up by a republican
judge.

There are no republican judges in the UK.

The
neighbor should have returned the balls deflated with punctures in
them!

You son is obviously a dyslexic dumb jock meat head. Don't want to
know
anything more about your dimwit spawn. His not being able to keep
his balls
out of neighbor's yards six times (or more) is all the proof one
needs of
how inept the dullard is. He's so dumb, he could be president some
day!

We are not cursed with objects of scorn like presidents in the UK.

Franz

"ex WGS Hamm" wrote in message
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"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
On 10/11/04 6:16, in article ,
"Brian
Watson" wrote:


"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
...
How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins
asking
if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Remember you were a child once too. Then it won't matter.

Tell them they don't need to ask - just go and get it. Worked fine for
me
some years ago.
Then they would be trespassing and if it was my garden, they would be in
grave danger of being seriously injured by my dogs.


Then you would be in serious danger of being prosecuted for keeping
dangerous dogs, and your dogs in serious danger of being killed*.

--
Tumbleweed
*aka 'put down'

Remove my socks for email address

"Cereus-validus..." wrote in message
. com...
The devil cannot enter your home unless you invite him in.


He can if he drives a TV detector van.

--
Tumbleweed

Remove my socks for email address

Tumbleweed wrote:
"ex WGS Hamm" wrote in message
...

"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
On 10/11/04 6:16, in article
, "Brian Watson"
wrote:


"PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message
...
How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5
mins
asking
if
they can
go into my garden to get their ball back?

Remember you were a child once too. Then it won't matter.

Tell them they don't need to ask - just go and get it. Worked
fine
for me
some years ago.
Then they would be trespassing and if it was my garden, they would
be in grave danger of being seriously injured by my dogs.


Then you would be in serious danger of being prosecuted for keeping
dangerous dogs, and your dogs in serious danger of being killed*.

And your dogs won't attack people they've been introduced to. I quite
like the idea of next-door children feeling welcome to pop in and
collect their ball: gardens always look better with children in them.
Pays dividends later on when you want some little job done, too!

Mike.

"Sacha" wrote in message
Tell them they don't need to ask - just go and get it. Worked fine for
me
some years ago.
Then they would be trespassing and if it was my garden, they would be in
grave danger of being seriously injured by my dogs.


But it isn't your garden and they're not trespassing if they ask and are
granted permission. And we don't know that the OP has dogs. At that
particular point in my life, I had two dogs and it never crossed my mind
that they would attack anyone, let alone children, because that wasn't in
their nature. I see no point in keeping vicious animals.

The poster to whom I was replying said, "they don't need to ask - just go
and get it.".
That implies no permission was sought. It would thence be trespass.
So you had 2 dogs who would not guard your property. Good for you. What was
the point in keeping them?
Only one of my animals could be considered dangerous. I keep him because I
love him, he loves me and I have no fears of pikeys or anyone else breaking
in to steal my parrots from the aviary block while he is in the yard. Or
breaking in to steal anything for that matter.
You don't see the need, but perhaps you don't live way out in the sticks
with no streetlights, on your own and where other properties on the 2 mile
remote stretch of lane have been broken into.
All I can say is that it is a good job Kip never came to you as a pup. You
would not have seen the need to keep him and would no doubt have had him put
down.
Good job we aren't all the same. I could not abide a dozy bugger of a dog
who would not protect me and mine.
I was making a point to someone who maintained it was ok for the kids
firstly to kick the ball over, and then to simply go and fetch it without
asking permission. The garden owner might have a dog who hated kids, he
might also have had a shed with chemicals in or a greenhouse with brittle
glass, or a fall in-able pond for the little darlings to drown themselves
in.
The point I am making is that nobody should enter someone's property unless
they have permission.

"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
. ..
Then you would be in serious danger of being prosecuted for keeping
dangerous dogs, and your dogs in serious danger of being killed*.

Actually no I would not. There is no law against keeping a dangerous dog as
long as certain precautions are made. The precautions I make are keeping
them in a secure garden behind high hedges and 6 foot high gates which
cannot be opened from the outside. And he is not in any danger of being
killed if he bit. He no doubt would run off never to be seen again if he
badly bit someone. Shame. Then I would look about for another dog just like
him and find one in a couple of months. Deep joy .
Whomever took the time and effprt to scale the 6 foot high gates hearing 7
dogs barking and snarling behind them would have to be really stupid. I
doubt it will ever happen.

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from "Joanne" contains these words:
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message

Sorry about the long reply but this is the actual law ............

Depriving someone of their property without legal right, but with no
intention of depriving them of it permanently (legal right might be for
instance, the police removing evidence) is a civil offence, and usually,
a criminal offence, too.

"Theft By Finding" is what it used to be called, I think; if you find
something that isn't yours and you keep it, then it's theft.

No, theft by finding is still with the intention of depriving
permanently the owner of the goods.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

ex WGS Hamm wrote:
"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
. ..
Then you would be in serious danger of being prosecuted for
keeping
dangerous dogs, and your dogs in serious danger of being killed*.

Actually no I would not. There is no law against keeping a
dangerous
dog as long as certain precautions are made. The precautions I make
are keeping them in a secure garden behind high hedges and 6 foot
high gates which cannot be opened from the outside. And he is not
in
any danger of being killed if he bit. He no doubt would run off
never
to be seen again if he badly bit someone. Shame. Then I would look
about for another dog just like him and find one in a couple of
months. Deep joy . Whomever took the time and effprt to scale the
6
foot high gates hearing 7 dogs barking and snarling behind them
would
have to be really stupid. I doubt it will ever happen.

Blimey!

Mike.