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'Worst winter in 100 years'
Bloke in a pub (well, bloke working on the drive next door) said he had
heard that we were due for the worst winter in 100 years. May know what he is on about as he used to work for Notcutts so at least he should be a little in tune with nature. He is also laying block paving and stuff so the quality of the winter has a major effect on his business. However (as discussed in a previous thread) the accuracy of long range forecasts is not particularly high in some cases. My issue is my Olive tree in a pot. Over a normal winter I would expect to leave it outside, but long term harsh conditions may not suit it. I have the option to: bring it into the sun lounge at the first forecast of really nasty weather bring it in when the nasty weather starts bring it in now (and subject it to occasional burst of warmth on sunny days) leave it outside to tough it out What does the team think? Is a really nasty frost or a week of snow and ice likely to see it off? Would it make a good alternative Christmas tree? I would rather like a week or two of snow. Seems like ages since we had a real winter. Here in Suffolk by the sea it seems to be generally very mild. Last real snow (lasting more than a couple of days) was at least 10 years ago. You can now all blame me for wishing for it when we are blizzard bound for a month. Cheers Dave R |
In article , David WE Roberts writes: | | Bloke in a pub (well, bloke working on the drive next door) said he had | heard that we were due for the worst winter in 100 years. It was the worst winter THIS CENTURY - i.e. since 2001. | May know what he is on about as he used to work for Notcutts so at least | he should be a little in tune with nature. | | He is also laying block paving and stuff so the quality of the winter has | a major effect on his business. Neither are particularly good qualifications for weather prediction. Real traditionalists say that the art of prediction has gone down the tube ever since this country gave up human sacrifice, and who are we to argue with them? Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:22:40 +0000, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , David WE Roberts writes: | | Bloke in a pub (well, bloke working on the drive next door) said he had | heard that we were due for the worst winter in 100 years. It was the worst winter THIS CENTURY - i.e. since 2001. | May know what he is on about as he used to work for Notcutts so at least | he should be a little in tune with nature. | | He is also laying block paving and stuff so the quality of the winter has | a major effect on his business. Neither are particularly good qualifications for weather prediction. Real traditionalists say that the art of prediction has gone down the tube ever since this country gave up human sacrifice, and who are we to argue with them? Hmmm....we are still in prime spot for the best worst year/decade etc. for this century. What was your source for 'worst this century'? [Unless you know the bloke doing the drive next door, of course :-) ] I wasn't suggesting he was a good weather predictor - rather that he had a keener interest in locating long term reliable forecasts than most. I can believe we could be in for a strange winter, as we have had a very odd summer (this part of the country) with more precipitation and less sun. More to the point, what should I do with my Olive? Cheers Dave R |
"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
... Bloke in a pub (well, bloke working on the drive next door) said he had heard that we were due for the worst winter in 100 years. My issue is my Olive tree in a pot. Over a normal winter I would expect to leave it outside, but long term harsh conditions may not suit it. The guy was probably referring to the announcement by metcheck.com. I read their follow-up blurb and actually it was only a degree or so colder than recent years so even if they're right it's nothing to worry about. I'd bring the olive in now. The heat won't hurt it but the cold probably wouldn't either. I think it's the wet which does it. I put mine in my unheated greenhouse over winter here in Cheshire and it's been fine so far despite dropping to a few degrees below zero a number of times. -- Martin & Anna Sykes ( Remove x's when replying ) http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm |
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:59:23 +0000, David WE Roberts
wrote: Over a normal winter I would expect to leave it outside, but long term harsh conditions may not suit it. I have the option to: bring it into the sun lounge at the first forecast of really nasty weather bring it in when the nasty weather starts bring it in now (and subject it to occasional burst of warmth on sunny days) David, how big is your olive tree, and how big its pot. Mine has been outdoors for the last few winters. It's in a 10 inch pot and is 20 years old, but I cut it back to about 15 - 18 inches each winter so it will fit under a covered shelf next to the house and it is therefore kept dry. I have also tried wrapping the pot in bubble wrap and the tree in fleece. As I have no greenhouse or sunroom, the only other option is to bring it in to my living room. I would only do this if we had severe weather. I do the same with a pomegranate, and now have a fig to cope with also! I'm sure they would be happier with a sunroom or cold greenhouse, but in my case, needs must! Pam in Bristol |
"Martin Sykes" wrote "David WE Roberts" wrote My issue is my Olive tree in a pot. Over a normal winter I would expect to leave it outside, but long term harsh conditions may not suit it. The guy was probably referring to the announcement by metcheck.com. I read their follow-up blurb and actually it was only a degree or so colder than recent years so even if they're right it's nothing to worry about. I'd bring the olive in now. The heat won't hurt it but the cold probably wouldn't either. I think it's the wet which does it. I put mine in my unheated greenhouse over winter here in Cheshire and it's been fine so far despite dropping to a few degrees below zero a number of times. Martin & Anna Sykes I said exactly the same to my friends when they asked me if their trees (large ones left over from an exhibition) would survive outside. They don't have room to bring them in except up three narrow steep flights of stairs. I told them out the wet probably being the worst enemy. I was round their house last week and noticed they've covered the top of the pots with plastic to keep the rain out ! Will this work? They are in the inner city in a courtyard so might be OK ? Jenny |
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:55:09 +0000, Pam Moore wrote:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:59:23 +0000, David WE Roberts wrote: Over a normal winter I would expect to leave it outside, but long term harsh conditions may not suit it. I have the option to: bring it into the sun lounge at the first forecast of really nasty weather bring it in when the nasty weather starts bring it in now (and subject it to occasional burst of warmth on sunny days) David, how big is your olive tree, and how big its pot. The tree is about 6' from the tip of the tippiest bit down to the surface of the pot. However the trunk is less than 1" in diameter at the thickest part - I guess it must be 2-3 years old. The pot is about 16" diameter at the top tapering down to about 10" at the bottom. Mine has been outdoors for the last few winters. It's in a 10 inch pot and is 20 years old, but I cut it back to about 15 - 18 inches each winter so it will fit under a covered shelf next to the house and it is therefore kept dry. I have also tried wrapping the pot in bubble wrap and the tree in fleece. As I have no greenhouse or sunroom, the only other option is to bring it in to my living room. I would only do this if we had severe weather. I do the same with a pomegranate, and now have a fig to cope with also! I am not so worried about my Brown Turkey fig, which seems very robust and lives out over winter. I'm sure they would be happier with a sunroom or cold greenhouse, but in my case, needs must! Pam in Bristol |
"Martin Sykes" wrote in message ... "David WE Roberts" wrote in message ... Bloke in a pub (well, bloke working on the drive next door) said he had heard that we were due for the worst winter in 100 years. My issue is my Olive tree in a pot. Over a normal winter I would expect to leave it outside, but long term harsh conditions may not suit it. The guy was probably referring to the announcement by metcheck.com. I read their follow-up blurb and actually it was only a degree or so colder than recent years so even if they're right it's nothing to worry about. I'd bring the olive in now. The heat won't hurt it but the cold probably wouldn't either. I think it's the wet which does it. I put mine in my unheated greenhouse over winter here in Cheshire and it's been fine so far despite dropping to a few degrees below zero a number of times. My olive is planted outside in the soil. I will not be doing anything with it. It is in a fairly sheltered spot. I will let you know if it survives. |
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from Janet Baraclough.. contains these words: It's late getting started, then. We've not had any frost yet and it's only a week or so to my birthday. November 1947 was arctic. ITYF that the winter of '1947' began in earnest in February 1948 - that's how I remember it. Indeed, it snowed on my birthday, 30th April. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from Janet Baraclough.. contains these words: The message from Jaques d'Alltrades contains these words: The message from Janet Baraclough.. contains these words: It's late getting started, then. We've not had any frost yet and it's only a week or so to my birthday. November 1947 was arctic. ITYF that the winter of '1947' began in earnest in February 1948 - But I was oop north that's how I remember it. Indeed, it snowed on my birthday, 30th April. Well then, that exceptionally cold winter was even later getting started than I can remember from my crib:-) I probably didn't get to grips with calendars until they propped me up in the highchair. I unforget looking out of my bedroom window and seeing the almond tree (you'll be able to gauge the severity of the spring when you remember that this is the day before May begins...) which was fresh in bloom, now with all its branches and twigs capped with snow. It was like a Chinese painting: astoundingly beautiful, even to my (precisely) eight-year-old eyes. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
David WE Roberts wrote:
:: On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:22:40 +0000, Nick Maclaren wrote: :: ::: ::: In article , ::: David WE Roberts writes: ::::: ::::: Bloke in a pub (well, bloke working on the drive next door) ::::: said he had heard that we were due for the worst winter in 100 ::::: years. ::: ::: It was the worst winter THIS CENTURY - i.e. since 2001. ::: ::::: May know what he is on about as he used to work for Notcutts so ::::: at least he should be a little in tune with nature. ::::: ::::: He is also laying block paving and stuff so the quality of the ::::: winter has a major effect on his business. ::: ::: Neither are particularly good qualifications for weather ::: prediction. Real traditionalists say that the art of prediction ::: has gone down the tube ever since this country gave up human ::: sacrifice, and who are we to argue with them? :: :: Hmmm....we are still in prime spot for the best worst year/decade :: etc. for this century. :: :: What was your source for 'worst this century'? :: :: [Unless you know the bloke doing the drive next door, of course :: :-) ] :: :: I wasn't suggesting he was a good weather predictor - rather that :: he had a keener interest in locating long term reliable forecasts :: than most. Hmmm, I've worked outdoors for over twenty years and still can't get an accurate prediction for a week ahead! What I can say is that we usually have cold but dry winters and hot but wet summers...we'll have less rain in the next four months than we've had in the past four! (BTW, I lay drives too!) :: :: I can believe we could be in for a strange winter, as we have had :: a very odd summer (this part of the country) with more :: precipitation and less sun. Very true but between you and me, from all the weather pages and channels available these days, I've yet to see one which is as accurate as ITV's teletext services - don't bother with the forecast after the news on either channel and the BBC's weather website is as useful as a brick to a drowning ferret! :: :: More to the point, what should I do with my Olive? :: :: I thought she'd got a part in Eastenders? |
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from Martin contains these words: Some anorak has devoted a website to the cold winter of *not* 1947 http://www.winter1947.co.uk/ If the owner of this website is correct, Rusty has false memory syndrome The owner of this website thinks the cold winter started at the end of January 1947. If he is wrong he has an enormous number of "47"s to retype. I really must get my books out of store - I'm pretty sure I've remembered correctly, though I freely admit that ICBW. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:22:25 GMT, Phil L wrote:
Hmmm, I've worked outdoors for over twenty years and still can't get an accurate prediction for a week ahead! I always say "Tomorrow'll be quite like today". An average weather system lasts around 5 days so I get roughly an 80% success rate. For a week ahead, I just says "It'll probably be miserable". I'm usually right there as well. :-( -- Tim C. |
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from Martin contains these words: I really must get my books out of store - I'm pretty sure I've remembered correctly, though I freely admit that ICBW. If it's any consolation, I thought you were right and am busy trying to sort my memories out :-) I have an excuse I was only 6 in January 1947. So was I, but in April 1948 I was 8... I do remember going to school by tram and bus in Leeds right through that winter. I can't believe anybody would let a 6 year old do the same by themselves nowadays. I walked about two miles to school then - or it's possible I was back at boarding school. Nah. If I was at boarding school I couldn't have been at home - unless Easter was late that year. (I went to boarding school aged four, 'cos my father had been killed during the war and my mother was training as a physioterrorist. Then I went back to the same school for a time, but I can't remember exactly when, except that I was six.) There was also a very hot summer around the same time. Was it in 1946 or 1947? I think that was 1946, though that might have been rose-tinted speedwells in the immediate post-war euphonium. Over to Franz for a more mature recollection :-) If we are wrong at what point did we start naming winters after the year that December occurred in? I don't think we ever did. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:20:43 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: The message from Martin contains these words: Some anorak has devoted a website to the cold winter of *not* 1947 http://www.winter1947.co.uk/ If the owner of this website is correct, Rusty has false memory syndrome The owner of this website thinks the cold winter started at the end of January 1947. If he is wrong he has an enormous number of "47"s to retype. I really must get my books out of store - I'm pretty sure I've remembered correctly, though I freely admit that ICBW. If it's any consolation, I thought you were right and am busy trying to sort my memories out :-) I have an excuse I was only 6 in January 1947. I do remember going to school by tram and bus in Leeds right through that winter. I can't believe anybody would let a 6 year old do the same by themselves nowadays. There was also a very hot summer around the same time. Was it in 1946 or 1947? Over to Franz for a more mature recollection :-) I immigrated to England on 6 April 1947 and experienced only the tail end of that winter in Manchester. If we are wrong at what point did we start naming winters after the year that December occurred in? -- Martin |
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Janet Baraclough.. wrote: Is it too late to say I've just remembered I was born in 46, not 47? (Hides under rock) I am impressed. I don't remember being born. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , Janet Baraclough.. wrote: Is it too late to say I've just remembered I was born in 46, not 47? (Hides under rock) I am impressed. I don't remember being born. Don't try to recover the memory: it was awful! Mike. |
Don't remember 47/48
I do remember going to school through a tunnel dug through a snowdrift in 1963..... And the ice on the inside of the bedroom window... Brrr |
Sacha wrote:
[...] I was born in balmy Jersey in January '46, so can't help I'm afraid. I had a barmy jersey once, along with an utterly deranged gardening hat, but the children made me throw them away. Mike. |
On 13/11/04 12:06 pm, in article , "Mike Lyle"
wrote: Sacha wrote: [...] I was born in balmy Jersey in January '46, so can't help I'm afraid. I had a barmy jersey once, along with an utterly deranged gardening hat, but the children made me throw them away. Not fair! I was *very* careful with the spelling! ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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from Chakoteya contains these words: Don't remember 47/48 I do remember going to school through a tunnel dug through a snowdrift in 1963..... And the ice on the inside of the bedroom window... Brrr Huh! Winter of 1978 - ice on the inside of my bedroom walls... Water butt (three feet diameter, four feet high) froze solid. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:59:23 +0000, David WE Roberts wrote:
It is starting! It is starting! Mind you if it is the worst in 100 years it is going to be a belter - I am not quite as mature as some of the more senior posters but I remember the (I think) '63/'64 winter in Essex where the snowdrifts were huge! AFAIK they have just stopped putting up the snow fences alongside the A14 to stop drifting (which they started doing after a really sever winter in the early '90s) so Murphy's law suggests that we are due for another hard winter. After which they will put up snow fences for another 10 years, then..... Now where did I put my snow chains? Cheers Dave R |
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from David WE Roberts contains these words: On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:59:23 +0000, David WE Roberts wrote: It is starting! It is starting! Mind you if it is the worst in 100 years it is going to be a belter - I am not quite as mature as some of the more senior posters but I remember the (I think) '63/'64 winter in Essex where the snowdrifts were huge! ISTR it was predicted that it would be the worst this century... AFAIK they have just stopped putting up the snow fences alongside the A14 to stop drifting (which they started doing after a really sever winter in the early '90s) so Murphy's law suggests that we are due for another hard winter. No, Murphy's Law applies to aircraft parts. it's Sod's Law you're thinking of. And applying Sod's Law you'd expect no more drifting snow until the fences fall down, or it to drift east-west, or something quite unexpected, like it all dropping in a ribbon over the A14 innit. After which they will put up snow fences for another 10 years, then..... Now where did I put my snow chains? #Jingle chains, jingle chains, In the crisp deep snow: Stranded cars in all the lanes, You still cannot go! Nyaa - nyaaa - nye-nyaaa - nyaaaaa -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message k... The message from David WE Roberts contains these words: snip Now where did I put my snow chains? #Jingle chains, jingle chains, In the crisp deep snow: Stranded cars in all the lanes, You still cannot go! Nyaa - nyaaa - nye-nyaaa - nyaaaaa Very true - the conditions where snow chains are of benefit are extremely limited - you need at least a couple of inches of settled snow but no snow drifts or abandoned cars. Got them over 20 years ago when we lived in Debyshire - to do the last mile into the hills. The main roads were clear but they didn't plough or grit the minor roads. I spent more time taking them off and putting them on than driving with them. Without them, however, we would have been stranded for days at a time and I needed to get to work :-) No snow here at the moment - but very cold. Cheers Dave R |
In message , David WE Roberts
writes On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:59:23 +0000, David WE Roberts wrote: Mind you if it is the worst in 100 years it is going to be a belter - I am not quite as mature as some of the more senior posters but I remember the (I think) '63/'64 winter in Essex where the snowdrifts were huge! I think you will find the winter in question was 1962-63! -- Steve Jackson, Bablake Weather Station, Coventry, UK http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/bws |
"Steve Jackson" wrote in message ... In message , David WE Roberts writes On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:59:23 +0000, David WE Roberts wrote: Mind you if it is the worst in 100 years it is going to be a belter - I am not quite as mature as some of the more senior posters but I remember the (I think) '63/'64 winter in Essex where the snowdrifts were huge! I think you will find the winter in question was 1962-63! -- Steve Jackson, Bablake Weather Station, Coventry, UK http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/bws Indeed !! I remember wading through huge drifts over Xmas while trying to get to the park to meet my boyfriend....:~) The met office has the following: The winter of 1962/63 was the coldest over England and Wales since 1740. As in 1947, anticyclones to the north and east of the British Isles brought bitterly cold winds from the east day after day. As in 1947, depressions followed tracks to southward of the British Isles and their fronts brought snow to England, Wales and the southernmost parts of Scotland. Jenny |
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from Steve Jackson contains these words: I think you will find the winter in question was 1962-63! Steve Jackson, Bablake Weather Station, Coventry, UK http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/bws Ah. Please enlighten me - was the notorious winter of 1947 1946/7 or 1947/8? -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from "JennyC" contains these words: "Steve Jackson" wrote in message ... In message , David WE Roberts writes On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:59:23 +0000, David WE Roberts wrote: Mind you if it is the worst in 100 years it is going to be a belter - I am not quite as mature as some of the more senior posters but I remember the (I think) '63/'64 winter in Essex where the snowdrifts were huge! I think you will find the winter in question was 1962-63! Indeed !! I remember wading through huge drifts over Xmas while trying to get to the park to meet my boyfriend....:~) The met office has the following: The winter of 1962/63 was the coldest over England and Wales since 1740. As in 1947, anticyclones to the north and east of the British Isles brought bitterly cold winds from the east day after day. As in 1947, depressions followed tracks to southward of the British Isles and their fronts brought snow to England, Wales and the southernmost parts of Scotland. And on the day that started I was hitch-hiking to Scotland for Hogmanay. The blizzards chased me up the country, catching me up around Shap. There, I was in a small Standard van, and the driver of a Glaswegian who *WAS* going to get there, come what may. We zoomed down Shap Fell at high speed in driving snow. He said, "Whull ye gait ower the back axle please, tae gie me mair grupp oan th' wee up?" And shortly after that: "Ah hoap we dinnae meet an arrrtic comin' doon sidewees!" An heartfelt wish on my part too. I reached Mallaig on New Year's Eve and in the bar was courteously asked by a fisherman if he minded them continuing their conversation in Gaelic. I said something to the effect that it was none of my business, please feel free. It was only when I grinned at a particularly spicy phrase that it was realised that I had a bit of the Gaelic... ...The evening became rather convivial, and I retired to my tent when the bar closed. Shortly afterwards the first-footers arrived, and until five in the morning there were never less than four people in my two man tent. I'm not quite sure how I got up in time to phone the parents when I heard the news about the Great Standstill, to tell them I was OK, and then to catch the ferry... The weather was so warm I was in shirtsleeves all N'eer'sday, and there was whin in bloom all along the east coast of Skye. Hmmm. Educated the spellcheck a bit innit. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
In message , Jaques
d'Alltrades writes The message from Steve Jackson contains these words: I think you will find the winter in question was 1962-63! Steve Jackson, Bablake Weather Station, Coventry, UK http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/bws Ah. Please enlighten me - was the notorious winter of 1947 1946/7 or 1947/8? 1947/48. -- June Hughes |
In message , June Hughes
writes Ah. Please enlighten me - was the notorious winter of 1947 1946/7 or 1947/8? 1947/48. Sorry June, I think it was 1946-47! In fact, the winter didn't get going until late January that year but persisted well into March - a bit before my time of course! -- Steve Jackson, Bablake Weather Station, Coventry, UK http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/bws |
In message , Steve Jackson
writes In message , June Hughes writes Ah. Please enlighten me - was the notorious winter of 1947 1946/7 or 1947/8? 1947/48. Sorry June, I think it was 1946-47! In fact, the winter didn't get going until late January that year but persisted well into March - a bit before my time of course! I stand corrected, having just found a photograph taken in February 1947. -- June Hughes |
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from Steve Jackson contains these words: In message , June Hughes writes Ah. Please enlighten me - was the notorious winter of 1947 1946/7 or 1947/8? 1947/48. Sorry June, I think it was 1946-47! In fact, the winter didn't get going until late January that year but persisted well into March - a bit before my time of course! That was what was lodged in my memory - but I put the question with no prompts. phew! Not losing it, after all! /phew Not before my time though. My memory was waking up on my seventh birthday (30th April) to find that the almond tree outside my bedroom window, which was bloomin' late that year, was covered with a cap of snow. It was so beautiful - like a Chinese painting - the bare branches almost black against the bright sky, along with the pink petals of the flowers all with a Christmas-card covering of snow. Normality restored. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from Steve Jackson contains these words: Sorry June, I think it was 1946-47! Agree, memory :((( ... and look at: http://www.winter1947.co.uk/ (posted by Martin 11.11.04.) quote from website:- "THE 1947 WINTER IN HALESOWEN, WEST MIDLANDS Halesowen Winter 1947 Summary January February March The three months of January to March 1947 [ a period of 90 days ] represented one of the most severe spells of weather encountered in this country ..." Jennifer |
In message , Steve Jackson
writes In message , June Hughes writes Ah. Please enlighten me - was the notorious winter of 1947 1946/7 or 1947/8? 1947/48. Sorry June, I think it was 1946-47! In fact, the winter didn't get going until late January that year but persisted well into March - a bit before my time of course! Indeed, the ambulance couldn't get up the street to take my mum to (maternity) hospital so the crew had to struggle up the street with a stretcher to carry her out. That was mid March. Strangely I've always loved the snow ;) -- Paul reply-to is valid |
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message k... [snip] Ah. Please enlighten me - was the notorious winter of 1947 1946/7 or 1947/8? 1946/7 Franz |
"June Hughes" wrote in message ... In message , Jaques d'Alltrades writes The message from Steve Jackson contains these words: I think you will find the winter in question was 1962-63! Steve Jackson, Bablake Weather Station, Coventry, UK http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/bws Ah. Please enlighten me - was the notorious winter of 1947 1946/7 or 1947/8? 1947/48. That is incorrect. I left South Africa to settle in England in April 1947, and I experienced the tail end of the 1946/7 winter. Even in April, the cold could freeze the balls off a brass monkey.. The 1847/8 winter was comparatively milder and shorter. Franz |
"Steve Jackson" wrote in message ... In message , June Hughes writes Ah. Please enlighten me - was the notorious winter of 1947 1946/7 or 1947/8? 1947/48. Sorry June, I think it was 1946-47! In fact, the winter didn't get going until late January that year but persisted well into March - a bit before my time of course! Well into April. I experienced it. Franz |
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 15:44:33 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote: snip The 1847/8 winter was comparatively milder and shorter. You can't possibly remember that one :-) I was only checking whether you were paying proper attention to the discourse. {:-)) Franz -- Martin |
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Martin wrote: On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 15:44:33 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote: The 1847/8 winter was comparatively milder and shorter. You can't possibly remember that one :-) Why not? One of the earlier tests for a budding warlock is to extend youth and life, and I was a witchdoctor by the time that I was seven. Don't contradict me or I will turn you into a toad :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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