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garlic-time to plant?
It used to be said that garlic should be planted on the shortest day and
harvested on the longest.It was a fine day on Saturday, so rather than lose the chance I planted 22 cloves there and then. But can anyone tell me if this fits in with the old lunar cycle agriculture? |
"jim chadwick" wrote in message
... It used to be said that garlic should be planted on the shortest day and harvested on the longest.It was a fine day on Saturday, so rather than lose the chance I planted 22 cloves there and then. But can anyone tell me if this fits in with the old lunar cycle agriculture? I planted mine three weeks ago and the first shoots are showing already. As far as I can see, if it gets the chance to develop roots and shoots before the hardest winter weather, it stands a better chance than planting at the coldest time and risking the cloves sitting there not doing much other than rot until things warm up! I always plant in late October or early November and have never failed to get a good crop. Neil. |
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:57:40 GMT, "jim chadwick"
wrote: It used to be said that garlic should be planted on the shortest day and harvested on the longest.It was a fine day on Saturday, so rather than lose the chance I planted 22 cloves there and then. But can anyone tell me if this fits in with the old lunar cycle agriculture? I always understood that rule to apply to shallots, not garlic. "They" say that garlic is best planted in October, so it can get its roots. down before the soil gets cold, but I think you can sow it anytime. It will be an interesting comparison with others who planted earlier and those who don't plant till Spring. Pam in Bristol |
jim chadwick wrote:
:: It used to be said that garlic should be planted on the shortest :: day and harvested on the longest.It was a fine day on Saturday, so :: rather than lose the chance I planted 22 cloves there and then. :: But can anyone tell me if this fits in with the old lunar cycle :: agriculture? When you say '22 cloves' do you mean just the normal garlic cloves from the shops?, will any garlic do? Or is it better to sow from seeds? - I definately want garlic next summer. |
"Phil L" wrote after... jim chadwick wrote: :: It used to be said that garlic should be planted on the shortest :: day and harvested on the longest.It was a fine day on Saturday, so :: rather than lose the chance I planted 22 cloves there and then. :: But can anyone tell me if this fits in with the old lunar cycle :: agriculture? When you say '22 cloves' do you mean just the normal garlic cloves from the shops?, will any garlic do? Or is it better to sow from seeds? - I definately want garlic next summer. You can plant the stuff from the shops but it is probably foreign grown and not a variety suitable for this country. I did that for a number of years until I once bought proper Uk suitable "seed" garlic from Marshalls and the difference was enough that I now buy the special garlic to plant every year. I also find we need to plant it early enough so that it's a good 6 inches tall before winter really sets in or we will lose some. Probably due to our soil, cold clay/silt. -- Regards Bob In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London |
"Bob Hobden" wrote:
I did that for a number of years until I once bought proper Uk suitable "seed" garlic from Marshalls and the difference was enough that I now buy the special garlic to plant every year. Why not keep some of your own garlic, acclimated to your particular situation, rather than buy new each year? In the Northeastern U.S., I don't want garlic tops to show in the fall, because they will likely be winter damaged and cost the cloves valuable energy. But I suspect my earth freezes deeper and sooner than most of the UK. I'm just finishing my planting now, really a few weeks too late. I'll use enough mulch to let the cloves get well rooted before things freeze solid. I didn't comment on that "plant on the shortest day; harvest on the longest," because that's wildly wrong for much of the world, and apparently not so hot for the UK either! Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G |
"Gary Woods" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wrote: I did that for a number of years until I once bought proper Uk suitable "seed" garlic from Marshalls and the difference was enough that I now buy the special garlic to plant every year. Why not keep some of your own garlic, acclimated to your particular situation, rather than buy new each year? Our ground does have a bit of White Rot in patches so I try not to plant any alliums I've grown to try to stop it spreading. We lose a few onions every year but not enough to make us stop growing them. -- Regards Bob In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London |
I used to live in an area that rotted the potatoes, onions, Etc. becuase of
too much rain. As soon as I planted those items in a raised bed or in raised rows, the problem went away. It might help there also, if you havent tried it already. Dwayne "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Gary Woods" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wrote: I did that for a number of years until I once bought proper Uk suitable "seed" garlic from Marshalls and the difference was enough that I now buy the special garlic to plant every year. Why not keep some of your own garlic, acclimated to your particular situation, rather than buy new each year? Our ground does have a bit of White Rot in patches so I try not to plant any alliums I've grown to try to stop it spreading. We lose a few onions every year but not enough to make us stop growing them. -- Regards Bob In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London |
jim chadwick wrote:
It used to be said that garlic should be planted on the shortest day and harvested on the longest.It was a fine day on Saturday, so rather than lose the chance I planted 22 cloves there and then. But can anyone tell me if this fits in with the old lunar cycle agriculture? The longest and shortest days are about the sun, rather than the moon: the moon's cycle doesn't match the sun's. (Like all Aquarians, I don't believe in anything resembling astrology.) Mike. |
" "Bob Hobden" wrote .. "Gary Woods" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wrote: I did that for a number of years until I once bought proper Uk suitable "seed" garlic from Marshalls and the difference was enough that I now buy the special garlic to plant every year. Why not keep some of your own garlic, acclimated to your particular situation, rather than buy new each year? Our ground does have a bit of White Rot in patches so I try not to plant any alliums I've grown to try to stop it spreading. We lose a few onions every year but not enough to make us stop growing them. Dwayne" wrote ... I used to live in an area that rotted the potatoes, onions, Etc. because of too much rain. As soon as I planted those items in a raised bed or in raised rows, the problem went away. It might help there also, if you haven't tried it already. It might well help as it would require new soil to raise the beds, however, White Rot is a soil born disease so it would probably come back after a time. Only sure cure is to stop planting any alliums for years and years and we aren't at that stage yet. -- Regards Bob In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London |
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from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: jim chadwick wrote: It used to be said that garlic should be planted on the shortest day and harvested on the longest.It was a fine day on Saturday, so rather than lose the chance I planted 22 cloves there and then. But can anyone tell me if this fits in with the old lunar cycle agriculture? The longest and shortest days are about the sun, rather than the moon: the moon's cycle doesn't match the sun's. The moon cycle of planting isn't about the length of days. (Like all Aquarians, I don't believe in anything resembling astrology.) And the moon cycle doesn't have anything to do with astrology either. (Though I note the intentional irony...) Indeed, astrology has nothing to do with astrology, if that isn't a bit abstruse. Astrology works, but it isn't because of the position of the heavenly bodies, those positions are merely a clock. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 23:57:23 -0000, "Bob Hobden"
wrote: Our ground does have a bit of White Rot in patches so I try not to plant any alliums I've grown to try to stop it spreading. We lose a few onions every year but not enough to make us stop growing them. We're in the same predicament here but we cope in much the same way as you do. Planted our Garlic(Marshalls) last week, we probably won't get much in the way of frost here 'til late December so plenty of time to get their roots down. ================================================= Rod Weed my email address to reply. http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html |
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:42 GMT, Gary wrote:
~On 11/16/04 10:12 AM, in article , ~"Rod" wrote: ~ ~ On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 23:57:23 -0000, "Bob Hobden" ~ wrote: ~ ~ ~ Our ground does have a bit of White Rot in patches so I try not to plant any ~ alliums I've grown to try to stop it spreading. We lose a few onions every ~ year but not enough to make us stop growing them. ~ ~ We're in the same predicament here but we cope in much the same way as ~ you do. Planted our Garlic(Marshalls) last week, we probably won't get ~ much in the way of frost here 'til late December so plenty of time to ~ get their roots down. ~ ~ ================================================= ~ ~ Rod ~ ~ Weed my email address to reply. ~ http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html ~I planted my garlic on Nov 5...I know cause I wrote it down! They were ready ~as I could see the little white roots 'reaching'. I'm using the hard neck ~variety as opposed to the soft neck...anyone know the difference? Taste? ~Other? Ease of growing? Hard neck ones seem to have fewer cloves, but bigger ones, and they're easier to peel in my experience. I grow Marco, mostly. Also you get a flower spike - which you cut off when small and still facing downwards to stop it taking energy from the bulb, and which you can put in stir-fries etc. You can't plait them properly, but it's a small cost for the easier peeling. -- jane Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist but you have ceased to live. Mark Twain Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks! |
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